Stefan GP progress

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 03 Feb 2010, 12:21

Captain Hammer wrote:Reports are beginning to emerge suggesting that Campos owes so much to Dallara that Dallara have put the intelectual property rights on the car up for sale and Stefan have purcased them - it doesn't guarantee them a place on the grid, but it would mean Campos is dead.

However, I'm not going to go beleiving these reports just yet.

Stefanovich has also been spotted* hanging around the back of the garages in Valencia with bags of money attempting to buy a few more team's cars.

Formula One is dead.

Long live Formula Stefan!

*In my head.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 03 Feb 2010, 14:07

This is silly. Stefan has support from Toyota, which, for a new team, is fantastic. They shouldn't be interested in the Dallara designs for Campos. Perhaps Epsilon Euskadi maybe though...

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 03 Feb 2010, 14:35

Phoenix wrote:This is silly. Stefan has support from Toyota, which, for a new team, is fantastic. They shouldn't be interested in the Dallara designs for Campos. Perhaps Epsilon Euskadi maybe though...

They could be doing it to force Campos to give up early. This would give Stefan GP more preparation time and possibly a second driver in Senna. Besides there are bound to be a few features of the Dallara chassis that are better than the Toyota one.

Fitch · Post by **Fitch** » 03 Feb 2010, 16:08

Tealy said it, if Stefan buy the rights to the Campos chassis, then Campos no longer have a car at all. Thus, it becomes impossible for them to be on the grid. It's not a matter of Stefan just buying up chassis, it's a calculated move to remove your biggest obstacle to putting YOUR car on the grid. SGP is banking on the fact that Campos, most likely, won't announce they're failure to make Bahrain until literally the day before first practice. They will then say, "Oh look, you have a gird opening, and we have our cars here. Why don't you let us race?"

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 03 Feb 2010, 17:51

Bernie is giving the team more support, and thinks Ralf could be a good choice for a driver!

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/8107.html

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 03 Feb 2010, 18:23

Ed24 wrote:Bernie is giving the team more support, and thinks Ralf could be a good choice for a driver!

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/8107.html

No! Not Ralf! :evil:

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 03 Feb 2010, 18:48

The more I read about this the more I think it might be a front for an Ecclestone GP team, or at least one funded by him. Without a backer of his stature this whole venture just doesn't stack, but when you see who is involved - Coughlan, Ryan, Kolles etc it seems there's some clout somewhere...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Feb 2010, 20:24

Henrique wrote:
Ed24 wrote:Bernie is giving the team more support, and thinks Ralf could be a good choice for a driver!

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/8107.html

No! Not Ralf!

Yes! Of Course Ralf! :twisted:

LucaPacchiarini · Post by **LucaPacchiarini** » 03 Feb 2010, 22:25

rumours about a certain canadian driver.... :shock:

...and no, it's not Allen Berg....

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 03 Feb 2010, 22:34

Bruno Spengler!!!

watka · Post by **watka** » 03 Feb 2010, 22:59

WeirdKerr wrote:Bruno Spengler!!!

Nah, it's gotta be Paul Tracy.

Anyway, this is all brilliant news for Stefan, they're removing one of their main rivals from the grid if they've nabbed the Dallara rights, and also secured themselves a future beyond 2010 (I'd gather they're own in-house chassis designers are a little short on experience!). Regarding Campos, I think Bernie is waiting for them to make the first move. Basically, if they announce the day before Bahrain that they can't make it, then Bernie can sue their asses off, and claim that they've disgraced the sport, even if all along he knows they can't make it and could do something about it himself.

One question though, where the hell if Stefan getting all this money from?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 03 Feb 2010, 23:00

LucaPacchiarini wrote:rumours about a certain canadian driver....

...and no, it's not Allen Berg....

Paul Tracy finally making his GP debut?

E: Why didn't the forum software warn me about another poster before me? Watka had the same joke I've got.

jackanderton · Post by **jackanderton** » 04 Feb 2010, 00:08

Where is he getting his money from?

Given Qadbak and Genii Capital's recent involvements, perhaps the question should be- does he have any real money?

Another question- why was USF1's grid slot approved above Stefan GP's anyway?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 04 Feb 2010, 00:27

LucaPacchiarini wrote:rumours about a certain canadian driver....

...and no, it's not Allen Berg....

Andrew Ranger?

Alianora La Canta · Post by **Alianora La Canta** » 04 Feb 2010, 00:34

I don't think this team is an Ecclestone front. Bernie simply sees some sort of financial sense in backing Stefan GP over Campos. Still, it is a mark of approval for Stefan GP so it must be doing something right...

(Incidentally, I love the sense of humour this team has. Anyone who dares put "Phil, pick up your coat" at the end of a press release where Phil was complimented is clearly not going to be a PR drone, which is good news for F1).

karsten · Post by **karsten** » 04 Feb 2010, 07:38

please not the dull ROFTL schumacher on the AWESOME stefanGP! they deserve at least a senna along with nakajima!

madcat · Post by **madcat** » 04 Feb 2010, 08:05

Will the drivers be expected to wear a black v-neck jumper over the overalls ("a la" Stefan)? It could be his trademark...

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 04 Feb 2010, 09:49

I love the idea of a new F1 entrepeneur, desperate to get his team into F1 whatever it takes, banging his fist down on the table and shouting at Dave Brown and co. "Get me Ralf Schumacher! I don't care how much it costs!"

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 04 Feb 2010, 09:51

Paul Hayes wrote:I love the idea of a new F1 entrepeneur, desperate to get his team into F1 whatever it takes, banging his fist down on the table and shouting at Dave Brown and co. "Get me Ralf Scumacher! I don't care how much it costs!"

Sounds exactly like Toyota.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Feb 2010, 10:33

thehemogoblin wrote:
Paul Hayes wrote:I love the idea of a new F1 entrepeneur, desperate to get his team into F1 whatever it takes, banging his fist down on the table and shouting at Dave Brown and co. "Get me Ralf Scumacher! I don't care how much it costs!"

Sounds exactly like Toyota.

And I love the fact that the H was left out of SCUMacher's name... :oops:

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 04 Feb 2010, 11:31

thehemogoblin wrote:
LucaPacchiarini wrote:rumours about a certain canadian driver....

...and no, it's not Allen Berg....

Andrew Ranger?

Robert Wickens?

danardif1 · Post by **danardif1** » 04 Feb 2010, 12:10

Jacques Villeneuve Sr. ?

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 04 Feb 2010, 12:28

danardif1 wrote:Jacques Villeneuve Sr. ?

Even better: Maryeve Dufault!

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 04 Feb 2010, 12:32

That Bernie is saying Ralf is a bad sign. Come on, Bernie, have some imagination! Surely having a Senna in the team would be better publicity than a boring driver who was never a patch on his brother.

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 04 Feb 2010, 12:34

James Hinchcliffe?

LionZoo · Post by **LionZoo** » 04 Feb 2010, 12:49

Bryan Adams?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Feb 2010, 14:41

LionZoo wrote:Bryan Adams?

Bryan Adams?!?!?! Next thing you know, someone will be suggesting Celine Dion! :shock:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Feb 2010, 14:43

dr-baker wrote:Bryan Adams?!?!?! Next thing you know, someone will be suggesting Celine Dion!

It's not like Stefanovich's heart wouldn't go on, if it's the price of getting to the Bahrain grid.

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 04 Feb 2010, 15:12

Bad news for Stefan GP:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81275

Although seeing is believing and vice-versa.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 04 Feb 2010, 15:16

rffp wrote:Bad news for Stefan GP:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81275

Although seeing is believing and vice-versa.

Personally, much as I like the idea of Stefan GP, I hope the two existing teams make it to the grid on time, partly because I can imagine the crushing disappointment for Lopez and/or Senna to have their dream snatched away, and partly because there'll be less risk of Ralf.

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 04 Feb 2010, 15:39

fjackdaw wrote:
rffp wrote:Bad news for Stefan GP:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81275

Although seeing is believing and vice-versa.

Personally, much as I like the idea of Stefan GP, I hope the two existing teams make it to the grid on time, partly because I can imagine the crushing disappointment for Lopez and/or Senna to have their dream snatched away, and partly because there'll be less risk of Ralf.

Lopez was pulled out of the motor netherworld, so he won't lose much, but Senna would be a shame indeed.
The drivers considered for SGP are scary: Nakajima, Villeneuve, Ralf and Piquet Jr. God help us all!

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 04 Feb 2010, 16:15

rffp wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
rffp wrote:Bad news for Stefan GP:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81275

Although seeing is believing and vice-versa.

Personally, much as I like the idea of Stefan GP, I hope the two existing teams make it to the grid on time, partly because I can imagine the crushing disappointment for Lopez and/or Senna to have their dream snatched away, and partly because there'll be less risk of Ralf.

Lopez was pulled out of the motor netherworld, so he won't lose much, but Senna would be a shame indeed.
The drivers considered for SGP are scary: Nakajima, Villeneuve, Ralf and Piquet Jr. God help us all!

Arguably, Lopez has the most to lose for the very fact that he was pulled from the netherworld - he'll likely never get an opportunity to be an obscure Formula 1 driver. Senna at least has the name and is well regarded. I like the idea of people like Ralph Firman or Gaston Mazzacane trudging about in a higher category than they seem to belong, it's a bit like finding Willy Wonka's golden ticket. (Has any F1 driver ever looked more like a mid-field BTCC driver than Ralph Firman?)

Wow, Stefan is planning to have an even blander line-up than Lotus!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Feb 2010, 16:54

Just been reading about religion and superstition in Serbia on the BBC website and found it interesting although it didn't really have anything to do with Stefan GP directly. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8496801.stm?lsm)

The thing from it that I found most amusing:

Above all, though, beware of the draught. Ladies who expose their stomachs to cold air will end up with frozen ovaries and never be able to have children.

Sit next to an open window and you'll have an eternally stiff neck. Even at the height of summer, you see older Serbs frantically closing windows on public buses.

There is even a Serbian saying: many have died from draughts, but nobody has died from a bad smell.

razta · Post by **razta** » 04 Feb 2010, 17:51

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-new ... her-entry/

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 04 Feb 2010, 18:37

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'm fairly sure Stefan GP will be on the grid eventually, if not this year, then in 2011 or beyond.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 04 Feb 2010, 19:59

dr-baker wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
Paul Hayes wrote:I love the idea of a new F1 entrepeneur, desperate to get his team into F1 whatever it takes, banging his fist down on the table and shouting at Dave Brown and co. "Get me Ralf Scumacher! I don't care how much it costs!"

Sounds exactly like Toyota.

And I love the fact that the H was left out of SCUMacher's name...

Not intentionally, I promise. I have now corrected my original post!

Bloody keyboard...

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 04 Feb 2010, 20:24

rffp wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
rffp wrote:Bad news for Stefan GP:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81275

Although seeing is believing and vice-versa.

Personally, much as I like the idea of Stefan GP, I hope the two existing teams make it to the grid on time, partly because I can imagine the crushing disappointment for Lopez and/or Senna to have their dream snatched away, and partly because there'll be less risk of Ralf.

Lopez was pulled out of the motor netherworld, so he won't lose much, but Senna would be a shame indeed.
The drivers considered for SGP are scary: Nakajima, Villeneuve, Ralf and Piquet Jr. God help us all!

I think I've suddenly lost all the desire I had to see Stefan on the grid...

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 04 Feb 2010, 20:31

Phoenix wrote:Lopez was pulled out of the motor netherworld, so he won't lose much, but Senna would be a shame indeed.
The drivers considered for SGP are scary: Nakajima, Villeneuve, Ralf and Piquet Jr. God help us all!

I think I've suddenly lost all the desire I had to see Stefan on the grid...[/quote]

That's exactly how I felt when I read that list too! Zzzz...

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 04 Feb 2010, 22:30

Ralf wasn't good enough 5 years ago, he's not going to be good enough now. Or exciting.

If Stefan GP get on the grid, I'd rather they picked some monied up no hoper, or a random rookie than Ralf

XurizManson · Post by **XurizManson** » 04 Feb 2010, 23:27

Ralf or whatever, i can´t wait to see their livery!