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How does this even work?
If they don't raise enough money to meet the goal, they won't get any of it, and therefore not one of the donors will receive their piece of Caterham? :P
Or it's just an amount they wanted to collect, but if they don't meet the goal they'll grab that cash in both hands anyway?
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Caterham has just reached 62%, a 3% increase in the last 30 minutes. Yesterday the administrator said that if they reach 1.800 (now are 1.461), may an investitor could put 0.550 to reach the 100%. C'mon Caterham, bring the cars to Abu Dhabi!
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Apologies if I'm speaking out of turn but I'm not totally supportive of crowdfunding in the case of Caterham. In the case of Brabham, I am wholeheartedly for crowdfunding (and said so in the thread) to get a project off the ground and running. In the case of Caterham, isn't the money basically being used to pay off debts rather than a genuine investment into the team or even the staff payroll? The money might help the team race in Abu Dhabi but that money isn't going to "grow" and allow the team to go racing next year. Ultimately, it's down to the individual, but I'm just not sure it's such a worthy cause here, even considering how badly the team has been treated by the F1 fraternity.
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79% reached in the latest 30 minutes, +17%, Caterham's dream is nearly possible! This could be a page of motorsport history
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Half a million in a couple of hours. They've signed a driver then.
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GwilymJJames wrote:Half a million in a couple of hours. They've signed a driver then.

Alice Powell?
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watka wrote:Apologies if I'm speaking out of turn but I'm not totally supportive of crowdfunding in the case of Caterham. In the case of Brabham, I am wholeheartedly for crowdfunding (and said so in the thread) to get a project off the ground and running. In the case of Caterham, isn't the money basically being used to pay off debts rather than a genuine investment into the team or even the staff payroll? The money might help the team race in Abu Dhabi but that money isn't going to "grow" and allow the team to go racing next year. Ultimately, it's down to the individual, but I'm just not sure it's such a worthy cause here, even considering how badly the team has been treated by the F1 fraternity.

Agreed, I think that the whole crowdfunding thing in this case just smacks of desparation and I still don't think Caterham will be on the grid next year.
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And they're racing. No word yet on who selected the donate £500,000 and we'll let you have a go in the car option.
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Unsurprisingly, Powell appears to have ruled herself out due to being nowhere near qualified for a super licence.
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Someone donated over a million euros?
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Why is everyone overlooking who really put the money in? C'mon now, it has to be H.....M :P
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eagleash wrote:Why is everyone overlooking who really put the money in? C'mon now, it has to be H.....M :P

YES! Must have been long enough to challenge Jan Lammers for longest time between GP entries? Or definitely beating Luca Badoer for second on that list?
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GwilymJJames wrote:And they're racing. No word yet on who selected the donate £500,000 and we'll let you have a go in the car option.


Well, it was me. I am used to driving in shitboxes after all.
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eagleash wrote:Why is everyone overlooking who really put the money in? C'mon now, it has to be H.....M :P

YES! Must have been long enough to challenge Jan Lammers for longest time between GP entries? Or definitely beating Luca Badoer for second on that list?


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So who is the mystery driver then? Someone with both 500K to waste on a one-off in the worst car in the field, and is also currently holding or eligible for a Superlicense. There are lots of ones or the others, but how about those who check both boxes?

Appendix L to the FIA International Sporting code wrote:5.1.2 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following requirements:
a) have made at least 5 starts in races counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for Drivers the previous year, or at least 15 starts within the previous 3 years.
b) have previously held the Super Licence and have been the regular test driver with an F1 World Championship team for the previous year.
c) have been classified, within the previous 2 years, in the first 3 of the final classification of: the F2 Championship, or the International F3 Trophy, or the GP2 Series, or the GP2 Asia Series or the Japanese F/Nippon Championship,
d) have been classified in the first 4 of the final classification of the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years,
e) be the current champion of one of the following:
- Formula 3 Euro Series
- The principal national F3 championships of: Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Spain
- World Series F/Renault V6
N.B.: the title of Champion is considered valid for 12 months from the last race of the relevant series or championship season.
f) be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with noopportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.


It seems sensible to rule out point F), as Caterham have neither the means nor time to get a pay-driver who doesn't qualify under sections A-E the required running before the Abu Dhabi weekend the required running. It's impossible. So such names as Rio Haryanto, Sergio Canamasas, Kimiya Sato, et al, the kind of driver that would only ever make it to F1 at a backmarker team desperate for any money, are all out.

Here is an attempt at a fully comprehensive list of drivers Caterham would be eligible to employ under the license rules, that excludes both Section F of Appendix L, aside from those who already qualified under this rule earlier in the year, and also drivers who are currently gainfully employed at other F1 teams in race driver positions.

Section A
Mark Webber
Michael Schumacher
Nick Heidfeld - Close, but no cigar. Only has 11 races in the past 3 years, not the required 15!
Bruno Senna
Rubens Barrichello
Paul di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Sébastien Buemi
Jaime Alguersuari
Heikki Kovalainen
Jarno Trulli
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan
Pedro de la Rosa
Charles Pic
Giedo van der Garde
Max Chilton

Section B
Only repeats from Section A, not applicable

Section C
Davide Valsecchi
Luiz Razia
Fabio Leimer
Sam Bird
James Calado
Naoki Yamamoto
André Lotterer
Loïc Duval
Kazuki Nakajima
Koudai Tsukakoshi
Takuya Izawa

Section D
Scott Dixon
Hélio Castroneves
Simon Pagenaud
Will Power
Juan Pablo Montoya

Section E
Carlos Sainz, Jr.
Esteban Ocon
Martin Cao
Nobuharu Matsushita
Sandy Stuvik

Section F
Roberto Mehri
Robin Frijns
Alexander Rossi
Daniel Juncadella
Max Verstappen
Felipe Nasr
Sergey Sirotkin
Susie Wolff? - Not sure if she actually did enough KMs in FP to hit the 300 mark
Julian Leal
Will Stevens
Stoffel Vandoorne

Take note that according to the regulations, Joylon Palmer is currently ineligible for a superlicense except for through Section F! He isn't the current GP2 champion for official purposes - Fabio Leimer is. So I wonder then, which of these blokes might end up at the wheel of the Caterham next weekend?

Coughing up 500K to race a backmarker car eliminates quite a lot of these drivers. Many others have commitments elsewhere on the Abu Dhabi weekend. Although, one might imagine that with Sauber passing on him for a drive next season, van der Garde might revert back to Caterham for one last race. With Marussia down the toilet, might Chilton make the switch as well?

Section C - how many of these drivers have the financial clout to walk into the Caterham drive? Razia has been on the brink of making it to F1 before, only for his money to mysteriously vanish just before the start of the year. His abortive efforts in the past make him somewhat unlikely. It's also extremely unlikely anyone from Section D would bother with the Caterham scenario - they are top drivers in the States, with nothing to gain from jumping into the sinking Caterham ship.

Section D is a little more interesting. Ocon is likely out, already being aligned with the Lotus team. Sainz Jr is also unlikely given his Red Bull ties and being passed up for the Toro Rosso drive. Cao's Fortec looked very plain this season, which brings into question whether he'd have the 500K to stump up. Sandy Stuvik is a bit of an obscure choice, but at least seems to have plenty of sponsors on board. A massive long shot, but might have the money to attempt such a move.

Someone from Section F seems the most likely. Especially Mehri, given he got his Superlicense by driving the Caterham this year. Given the team has changed hands since Rossi left Caterham, perhaps he has made a return, to finally make his F1 debut? Robin Frijns seems unlikely, as finding the money to make the jump to F1 had always been his biggest problem. It could theoretically be possible that Red Bull made the payment, to give Max Verstappen a run out before his STR racing debut. Nasr is effectively out, given he has already penned a deal with Sauber for next season.


My best guess from all of this is Caterham will field some combination of Kamui Kobayashi, Roberto Mehri and Giedo van der Garde. Joylon Palmer being allowed to race will require some special dispensation from the FIA, seeing as he isn't actually GP2 Champion yet. As funny as it would be to see Rubens in a Caterham, I remember at the end of his Williams contract saying he would not pay money to stay in F1.
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watka wrote:Apologies if I'm speaking out of turn but I'm not totally supportive of crowdfunding in the case of Caterham. In the case of Brabham, I am wholeheartedly for crowdfunding (and said so in the thread) to get a project off the ground and running. In the case of Caterham, isn't the money basically being used to pay off debts rather than a genuine investment into the team or even the staff payroll? The money might help the team race in Abu Dhabi but that money isn't going to "grow" and allow the team to go racing next year. Ultimately, it's down to the individual, but I'm just not sure it's such a worthy cause here, even considering how badly the team has been treated by the F1 fraternity.

Agreed, I think that the whole crowdfunding thing in this case just smacks of desparation and I still don't think Caterham will be on the grid next year.

The crowdfunding goal was to get Caterham onto the grid at Abu Dhabi. Nothing at all to do with them racing next year. As in, that wasn't the goal. Just get them on the grid.

Where the team will run up more debt in another pointless race with cars that can maybe complete the race but otherwise wont serve any purpose other than to get in the way of cars that deserve to be on the grid and Saubers. Any points they luck into will be hotly contested by Sauber and Marussia because Caterham have received special treatment from the FIA, nevermind getting donors to pay for their Abu Dhabi appearance and skipping the costly US and Brasil GPs.

Fans of the team should pray the cars are miraculously beating Toro Rossos because it will take that kind of performance leap in order for them to stand a chance of appearing next year.
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watka wrote:Apologies if I'm speaking out of turn but I'm not totally supportive of crowdfunding in the case of Caterham. In the case of Brabham, I am wholeheartedly for crowdfunding (and said so in the thread) to get a project off the ground and running. In the case of Caterham, isn't the money basically being used to pay off debts rather than a genuine investment into the team or even the staff payroll? The money might help the team race in Abu Dhabi but that money isn't going to "grow" and allow the team to go racing next year. Ultimately, it's down to the individual, but I'm just not sure it's such a worthy cause here, even considering how badly the team has been treated by the F1 fraternity.


Yeah, the way I see it is that the crowdfunding was effectively a method to allow Caterham to pay its creditors, thus help with the process of administration and avoid the team being liquidated. Though the nature of the crowdfunding - by selling off old assets of the team (merchandise, old car parts, etc) is in effect a type of liquidation itself.

It's not as black and white as needing the money for plane tickets or whatever. As with Marussia, all that was probably paid for months ago. For Marussia, all they needed was someone to step in, clear the debts, and they could go racing. I suspect it's a similar situation for Caterham, and that is what the crowdfunding has been used to achieve.
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Waris wrote:YES!!!! They are going!!! So long, negativity!

Absolutely. And I'm sure they're a dead cert for the 2015 season now otherwise what would've been the point....?
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Waris wrote:YES!!!! They are going!!! So long, negativity!

Absolutely. And I'm sure they're a dead cert for the 2015 season now otherwise what would've been the point....?

To have had an entry to sell to someone like Forza Rosso???
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Waris wrote:YES!!!! They are going!!! So long, negativity!

Absolutely. And I'm sure they're a dead cert for the 2015 season now otherwise what would've been the point....?

To have had an entry to sell to someone like Forza Rosso???

Is that why people have been spending their pennies then?
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Someone from Section F seems the most likely. Especially Mehri, given he got his Superlicense by driving the Caterham this year. Given the team has changed hands since Rossi left Caterham, perhaps he has made a return, to finally make his F1 debut? Robin Frijns seems unlikely, as finding the money to make the jump to F1 had always been his biggest problem. It could theoretically be possible that Red Bull made the payment, to give Max Verstappen a run out before his STR racing debut. Nasr is effectively out, given he has already penned a deal with Sauber for next season.


My best guess from all of this is Caterham will field some combination of Kamui Kobayashi, Roberto Mehri and Giedo van der Garde. Joylon Palmer being allowed to race will require some special dispensation from the FIA, seeing as he isn't actually GP2 Champion yet. As funny as it would be to see Rubens in a Caterham, I remember at the end of his Williams contract saying he would not pay money to stay in F1.

Your analysis is certainly quite comprehensive, and I would agree that the most likely scenario is that one of the larger teams has probably cut a deal with Caterham for them so they can place a prospective driver in that team.

Mind you, I would disagree slightly about the Red Bull links being a hindrance to joining Caterham, as in fact I think that Red Bull would be one possible candidate for having paid up - they have already done that before, having placed Ricciardo at HRT, already have links to Caterham via their technical partnership and could use it as an opportunity to bed in a prospective young driver.

Equally, it may not necessarily be Verstappen being given the seat: I might be mistaken, but I don't think that Sainz Jr has actually been fully passed over for Toro Rosso given Red Bull's plan to replace Vergne for 2015. As Vergne's replacement has not actually been announced, it could be the case that Verstappen is taking Kvyat's seat and somebody like Sainz Jr. is being lined up to replace Vergne instead.

In that scenario, what might happen is that Red Bull could decide to give Vergne's car over to one candidate and then put the other candidate into the seat at Caterham to see how they cope, thereby giving them an opportunity to compare and contrast candidates.
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I think there's something else behind this though.

I recall something being thrown about regarding Marussia and Caterham not getting prize money if they didn't finish the season. Perhaps Caterham are appearing in Abu Dhabi to get the prize money for tenth place that Marussia wouldn't get?
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tommykl wrote:I think there's something else behind this though.

I recall something being thrown about regarding Marussia and Caterham not getting prize money if they didn't finish the season. Perhaps Caterham are appearing in Abu Dhabi to get the prize money for tenth place that Marussia wouldn't get?

IIRC a team is allowed to miss three GPs so I doubt that is the reason.
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tommykl wrote:I think there's something else behind this though.

I recall something being thrown about regarding Marussia and Caterham not getting prize money if they didn't finish the season. Perhaps Caterham are appearing in Abu Dhabi to get the prize money for tenth place that Marussia wouldn't get?

The only thing that could prevent either team from getting prize money is if they cease to exist by the time the prize money is distributed.
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Not even that as the money would go to their creditors. That's why the two went into administration rather than stopped existing alltogether. They are not in charge of themselves, someone esle is contorlling the teams/money and the aim is clear as much debt as is possible. I can't know for sure but i think an F1 team would not go into "administration" unless it was impossible to pay off debt fully (interest becoming too high to compensate for).

That means creditors are willing to liquidate teams in order to get as much of their credit back while knowing some of the money will be lost. Unless a last minute new owner shows up and buys all team assets and debts and pays them off. Caterham has already been bought this way and the new owners did nothing publicly, rather they were a mysterious group and did whatever they did behind closed doors. After a few months all we know for sure is they let the team descend into this mess we have now.
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Good for them. They have made it. Here's hoping they bring a new front axle for Kamui's car.
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I have to give Caterham credit for being able to make it to Abu Dhabi. The crowdfunding effort didn't raise enough, but they have seen the windfall of new sponsors to get the rest of the money they need. Next question, who drives Ericsson's vacant car?
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go_Rubens wrote:I have to give Caterham credit for being able to make it to Abu Dhabi. The crowdfunding effort didn't raise enough, but they have seen the windfall of new sponsors to get the rest of the money they need. Next question, who drives Ericsson's vacant car?


I'll put my money on Mehri, to be honest. After driving all those FP1's, and gaining a superlicense, he must be more than a shoe in. Especially if Kolles turns Catheram into Forza Rossa, Mehri should have the drive there for sure.
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Andre Lotterererererer has been offered a drive. Hasn't said if he'll take it or not yet.
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This just in: They offered the drive to Lotterer, according to Autosport. I think Biscione will be happy to hear this :lol: , but note that Lotterer says he might not take up the offer. Anyway, the chances of a Barrichello/Lotterer lineup are increasing. *rubs hands*

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GwilymJJames wrote:Andre Lotterererererer


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Barrichello? No, go away.

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