The 2015 Launch Thread

Post by **mario** » 29 Jan 2015, 20:33

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:
razta wrote:

Better pic

Looks like a evolution of 2014 car

Well, I suppose we will see plenty enough of the car over the coming days, but it makes sense for Mercedes to use the W05 as a platform for development of the W06 given that the W05 was in itself a very competitive car. After all, Red Bull did pretty well with effectively evolving the same car through similar sets of regulations (Newey considered most of the cars that he has worked on over the past few years as effectively being evolutions of the RB6), so I can see why Mercedes would go for the same approach.

watka wrote:Really surprised that McLaren haven't attempted to disassociate themselves at all from Mercedes. Surely that's what Honda would want? The livery is nice enough (like the Force India if the Force India had been done properly), but I hoped for something new rather than keeping with silver (even if there is a splash of black too).

I agree that I would have expected McLaren and Honda to have made much more of an effort to move away from a silver livery in order to emphasise the symbolic breaking of ties with Mercedes.

Mind you, whilst the livery is rather conservative, the whole aero philosophy of the car is a much more radical departure - and what is interesting is that McLaren and Mercedes seem to have gone down a similar route with regards to the design of their nose, although McLaren seem to have surprisingly long front and rear crash structures.

razta · Post by **razta** » 29 Jan 2015, 21:05

Mercedes's shakedown "Spy" stunt effectively ruined Mclaren's big "Back to the future" Launch today.. #Trollcedes :lol:

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 29 Jan 2015, 21:46

Adam Cooper is speculating that McLaren may be doing a 'placeholder' livery, and the actual new colours will be launched in Australia.

We can only hope.

Bring back red and white. Bring back orange. Heck, run a pink car for papa smurf!

Just, stop being so middle of the road.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 29 Jan 2015, 22:26

AustralianStig wrote:Adam Cooper is speculating that McLaren may be doing a 'placeholder' livery, and the actual new colours will be launched in Australia.

We can only hope.

Bring back red and white. Bring back orange. Heck, run a pink car for papa smurf!

Just, stop being so middle of the road.

I can agree on that. Right now, I'd even prefer that feces brown of the Honda special model in the first Gran Turismo.

LeytonHouse · Post by **LeytonHouse** » 29 Jan 2015, 22:50

I was quite surprised to see McLaren sticking with a largely silver livery this year. Its looks ok I guess but it would have been nice to see something different to mark their new journey with Honda and seperation from Mercedes. I can only guess that Dennis is really attached to the silver chrome look.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 29 Jan 2015, 23:03

Klon wrote:
AustralianStig wrote:Adam Cooper is speculating that McLaren may be doing a 'placeholder' livery, and the actual new colours will be launched in Australia.

We can only hope.

Bring back red and white. Bring back orange. Heck, run a pink car for papa smurf!

Just, stop being so middle of the road.

I can agree on that. Right now, I'd even prefer that feces brown of the Honda special model in the first Gran Turismo.

Loved that car. Apparently it was hidden in the game files of GT2!

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 30 Jan 2015, 00:03

A blatant attempt to recreate the iconic silver west livery + too similar with Force India.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 30 Jan 2015, 00:18

East Londoner wrote:Looks like someone at Brackley was looking at some of the old cars that factory produced, came across the 2004 BAR nosecone, and thought "that'll do". But I like it.

Reminds me more of the early 2004 McLaren.

qw4tt0r · Post by **qw4tt0r** » 30 Jan 2015, 00:49

I have to say, the cars that were shown this year were already better looking than the 2013 and 2014 grids put together, but that doesn't say much.
I'm very concerned about McLaren's lack of a main sponsor, how are they supposed to be competitive with Mercedes development wise without the cash of a main sponsor...

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 30 Jan 2015, 05:51

maybe Mr. Dennis should lower his asking price for sponsors a bit.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 30 Jan 2015, 07:32

qw4tt0r wrote:I have to say, the cars that were shown this year were already better looking than the 2013 and 2014 grids put together, but that doesn't say much.
I'm very concerned about McLaren's lack of a main sponsor, how are they supposed to be competitive with Mercedes development wise without the cash of a main sponsor...

They should put Honda on the rear wing, it was pretty much common from 2003. (Except for the actual Honda team in 2007, 2008, but Super Aguri did that during these seasons)

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 30 Jan 2015, 07:39

qw4tt0r wrote:I have to say, the cars that were shown this year were already better looking than the 2013 and 2014 grids put together, but that doesn't say much.
I'm very concerned about McLaren's lack of a main sponsor, how are they supposed to be competitive with Mercedes development wise without the cash of a main sponsor...

But they're announcing it soon!

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 30 Jan 2015, 08:40

qw4tt0r wrote:I'm very concerned about McLaren's lack of a main sponsor, how are they supposed to be competitive with Mercedes development wise without the cash of a main sponsor...

They do have a major sponsor - Honda. All of the money that they would have spent on engines last year has been freed up because they are no longer a customer team.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:14

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:29

Shizuka wrote:

It's like when you hit the paint bucket tool instead of the pencil tool in MS-Paint.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:32

Post by **Londoner** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:35

The livery's OK. Anything's better than that dismal grey they'd been using. My main worry is with the car itself. It looks incredibly basic for an F1 car. It just screams "backmarker" looking at it. I honestly think this is Sauber's swansong unless Nasr's bringing an exorbitant amount of money from Branco de Brazil to offset the lost TV money.

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:37

I do not recognise that particular shade of silver.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:38

Well CaptainGetz's prediction for the Sauber a couple of pages back was a pretty good effort!

And CoopsII's picture is, worryingly, better looking than the real thing, and with more sponsors ...

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:41

I like that basic livery only because they use some actual colours. Too bad that the rest of the car, as East Londoner said, has written "back row" all over it.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 30 Jan 2015, 09:43

ScarbsF1 posted on Twitter:
„The long nose is easier to pass the crash test, one of the compromises of their restricted resources - everything else is similar, with new cooling inlets beside the roll hoop”

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:14

It's funny because I remember a time when the back of the grid cars, the strugglers, the no hopers, were utterly battered in sponsors, dripping in decals. It always appeared they'd take anybodys cash for a small logo on a panel somewhere. What does it say about F1 and the global economy in general that these days those guys cant even get £500 from the local plumber or something for an advert?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:19

CoopsII wrote:It's funny because I remember a time when the back of the grid cars, the strugglers, the no hopers, were utterly battered in sponsors, dripping in decals. It always appeared they'd take anybodys cash for a small logo on a panel somewhere.

...so a round of applause for Caterham for doing exactly that to turn up at Abu Dhabi!

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:20

dinizintheoven wrote:
CoopsII wrote:It's funny because I remember a time when the back of the grid cars, the strugglers, the no hopers, were utterly battered in sponsors, dripping in decals. It always appeared they'd take anybodys cash for a small logo on a panel somewhere.

...so a round of applause for Caterham for doing exactly that to turn up at Abu Dhabi!

And a round of boo's to Sauber for, what, being too choosy? Or being too unappealing to just about anybody with cash and a mind to advertise on a global platform?

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:28

A few Lidl logos should sort that out...

It's a relatively inoffensive livery, but without Gutierrez's sponsors there it's a little bare. Maybe a more shiny blue would be nice too, but now I'm getting picky.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that HP should make an appearance on the actual livery, they only announced a deal a few days ago so probably not in time for the reveal.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:33

DanielPT wrote:I like that basic livery only because they use some actual colours.

This is exactly what I thought when I first saw it.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:36

Ataxia wrote:A few Lidl logos should sort that out...

Or a big Ikea one...

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:42

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:
Ataxia wrote:A few Lidl logos should sort that out...

Or a big Ikea one...

What about a nice big picture of ABBA?

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Jan 2015, 10:55

That nose design is hideous, I know I should be supporting them because my second cousin works for them but I just can't.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:08

CoopsII wrote:
AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:
Ataxia wrote:A few Lidl logos should sort that out...

Or a big Ikea one...

What about a nice big picture of ABBA?

Nah, i'm refering to this

Post by **Londoner** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:08

Well, it's slightly more aesthetically pleasing than last year's car, I suppose...

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:11

East Londoner wrote:

Well, it's slightly more aesthetically pleasing than last year's car, I suppose...

But equally slow, i think

Post by **Nuppiz** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:12

East Londoner wrote:

Well, it's slightly more aesthetically pleasing than last year's car, I suppose...

So instead of a vacuum cleaner, we get Pinocchio:

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:13

East Londoner wrote:

Well, it's slightly more aesthetically pleasing than last year's car, I suppose...

Aaargh! Not them aswell! It's bloody red again!

Oh, wait...

And AdrianBelmonte's little picture has just made my Friday a good day

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:18

There's a little Alfa Romeo logo on the sidepod too, along with a smattering of Guti-backers.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:20

Ataxia wrote:There's a little Alfa Romeo logo on the sidepod too, along with a smattering of Guti-backers.

What about the little Haas logo below the UPS one?

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:24

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:Or a big Ikea one...

What about a nice big picture of ABBA?[/quote]
Nah, i'm refering to this

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Er, I don't get it? Are people getting Sweden and Switzerland mixed up or something? Or is it just because it looks like Sweden's flag colours?

Surely they should be sponsored by Toblerone, and funded by UK taxpayer's 'offshore' bank accounts?

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:24

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:
Ataxia wrote:There's a little Alfa Romeo logo on the sidepod too, along with a smattering of Guti-backers.

What about the little Haas logo below the UPS one?

That was there last season.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:27

Some details of Ferrari "S-FIST"

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 30 Jan 2015, 11:39

Ataxia wrote:There's a little Alfa Romeo logo on the sidepod too

Looks like an excuse to me. When the electronics seize up, look to Alfa for someone to blame ...