F1 Rejects Track Designing Competition

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 01 Mar 2015, 09:26

Fast and flowing track in Basingstoke with around 60m of elevation change.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6545494

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 01 Mar 2015, 12:56

My track in the town i was born and went to secondary school http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6545563

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 01 Mar 2015, 20:14

A circuit built in my hometown:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6545897

Post by **Nuppiz** » 01 Mar 2015, 20:57

A track in and around the suburb where I've lived all my life so far: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6545932 .

Features an overpass at the southern end and a number of elevation changes, especially at the northern end.

mrfakeboullier · Post by **mrfakeboullier** » 01 Mar 2015, 21:11

Here's a track passing both my house and school that I designed when I was about 6 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6545938

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 02 Mar 2015, 11:29

http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=394439

Post by **tommykl** » 02 Mar 2015, 12:44

Time to have another crack at this competition...
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6546283

When my dad had to work in other countries, we moved house a fair number of times, so I have a lot of cities/places to choose from. I settled on Sevenoaks, in Kent. The track is reminiscent of a slightly slower, shorter and less epic version of the old Spa, in the sense that it's a glorified triangle with a single slow hairpin. It goes straight through the centre of Sevenoaks, past the local hospital, through the village of Riverhead and back up towards Sevenoaks past the train station, with a hairpin from London Road to Dartford Road. Total length: about 6.4km

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 02 Mar 2015, 14:32

dr-baker wrote:
tBone wrote:
The rules are quite simple:
- The track must be based on roads in the town you live in, have lived in or were born in

This, I assume, can include our university towns, or boarding school towns? (I have never been to school in my home town - even my primary schools were several towns away. That's private education for you.)

And my universities were in Uxbridge and Kingston, in west and south-west London respectively. It would be a bit of a stretch to 'do' a track anywhere in London, wouldn't it? You would like us to at least stay in the same borough?

I guess they can include those towns too, yeah. About your second question, I actually don't mind. I only think it could be more fun for yourself to design it in an area you actually visit(ed) often.

For a little bit of inspiration, here's the track I mastered when I was about 5 years old. It does not meet the restrictions for this challenge and obviously I cannot participate, but this was bloody exciting on a kids' bike, I can tell you! http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6546356

scottgoode · Post by **scottgoode** » 02 Mar 2015, 16:01

How about the TT course for the 2015 Worlds in Richmond ?

http://richmond2015.com/about/courses/road-circuit/

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Mar 2015, 16:34

scottgoode wrote:How about the TT course for the 2015 Worlds in Richmond ?

http://richmond2015.com/about/courses/road-circuit/

No, it is too long, the rules state that the circuit has to be between 3.5km and 7km.

scottgoode · Post by **scottgoode** » 02 Mar 2015, 16:48

roblomas52 wrote:
scottgoode wrote:How about the TT course for the 2015 Worlds in Richmond ?

http://richmond2015.com/about/courses/road-circuit/

No, it is too long, the rules state that the circuit has to be between 3.5km and 7km.

Oh, I didn't realize there were rules. Serves me right for not reading the whole post. I just wanted a circuit that I could walk to.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 02 Mar 2015, 18:14

Well, my first attempt was in Avignon, where I spent an academic year during my first university degree (I studied French and History of Ideas), but the track (based on a proposed DTM track while Jean Alesi was competing in the series) was too short, even when extended.

So at the time, my 'home' university (the one which would issue me with my degree) was Kinston University in south-west London, and I lived in Berrylands, an affluent area of Surbiton (yet which was home to many students?!). This track starts almost exactly outside my student house then follows a route to a friend's house, then towards the church I attended (the sequence of 90-degree bends), then back towards my student house. This was a route I often walked and enjoyed.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 03 Mar 2015, 01:23

IIRC my first post here was a hometown circuit. Here it is:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6546797

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 03 Mar 2015, 21:26

Round my hometown(s) featuring a tunnel.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6547261

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 04 Mar 2015, 22:25

At least i tried...

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6547961

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 06 Mar 2015, 23:49

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 08 Mar 2015, 19:27

Rankings will be made during this week! It's been a couple of very busy days, so bear with me.

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 15 Mar 2015, 15:19

Finally (my apologies), here are the rankings! I'm looking forward to just designing instead of judging now...

It wasn't easy to decide, I have to say all tracks have a certain kind of charm!

16 - Normal32. It starts quite nice with a good passing possibility at the 1 km hairpin. After that, the only corners are 90 degrees. I would like to see more variation in those.
15 - novitopoli. Too many 90 degree corners near start/finish. I do like the section between 3-4 km, though.
14 - dr-baker. A decent track, although the 2-3 km section breaks the flow a little too much. Also, somehow it lacks excitement to it.
13 - TheFlyingCaterham. Some very nice sections, but the area around 3 km does not seem to flow well.
12 - WaffleCat. Too much start/stop to my taste. I would like some more medium corners.
11 - Bleu. I love the "non-straight straights". The 90 degree corners may make it a little too much start/stop, like WaffleCat's track.
10 - Simtek. Nice flow 1-3 km, not sure if the rest really offers the excitement others' tracks have.
9 - peteroli34. Some nice sections, but the parts around km 2 and km 5-6 may be too twisty to create a flowing track.
8 - AdrianBelmonte. You tried, and not bad at all! It could do with a fast section somewhere, but I see how this twisty track could be a challenge to master.
7 - watka. Nice flowing track, but it might lack a nice passing opportunity.
6 - roblomas52. Seems like a very fast and challenging track, but there are too many long straights to my liking.
5 - tommykl. This really is a nice track. Different kinds of corners, mostly at the right places as well. Some of the straights might be just a little too long, though.
4 - mrfakeboullier. Some nice corner combinations in this track. The section between kms 6 and 1 may be a little too long full throttle.
3 - Nuppiz. From a little past the 1 km mark, this is a great track! I do have some doubts about the opening section though. That may be a little bit too slow and tight.
2 - UgncreativeUsername. This track has that important flow. A lot of fluent corners and no too long straights require a nice smooth drive. Maybe one or two tighter corners would make it even better.
1 - Benetton. This is great stuff. Different types of corners, without ever really breaking the flow. I would love to drive it in a game, or even in real life!

So, congratulations to Benetton and all the others for creating nice tracks!

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 16 Mar 2015, 19:09

Alright! Nice to win. I will also to a ranking of your entries (so no voting). So the next challenge will be...

Location: Anywhere in the world! However, I will value realism as well as track design! With realism I mean both the track design and the location of said track.

Track length: Between 4.5 - 7.5 km

Deadline: I will do the ranking once there has been a sufficient time from the latest entry (2-3 days?).

Good luck.

I posted more instructions a few posts below:

"I meant realistic in the following senses:

- Suitable for Formula One
- Realistic location
- Think about were possible runoffs, stands, pit complex could be but don't put too much energy into that.

Mostly that the layout and location are realistic for F1.

You can use existing roads or build your own or a combination of both. "

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 16 Mar 2015, 19:25

http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=399839

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 16 Mar 2015, 19:31

I like a challenge with some freedom, but what do you mean by realistic?
Should it be suitable for formula 1, with room for audience and a paddock?
Should it consist of only existing roads or are we free do decide where the roads go?

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 16 Mar 2015, 20:24

I meant realistic in the following senses:

- Suitable for Formula One
- Realistic location
- Think about were possible runoffs, stands, pit complex could be but don't put too much energy into that.

Mostly that the layout and location are realistic for F1.

You can use existing roads or build your own or a combination of both.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 16 Mar 2015, 20:57

Montjuic Park 7km

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6557803

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 17 Mar 2015, 02:13

Remember when Bernie wanted a race in Cape Town? Well this isn't anything like what was proposed: http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=400060

EDIT: I thought I'd elaborate a little bit on the track's realism: It's located in Camps Bay, an affluent suburb of Cape Town that attracts a large number of tourists. It's within sight of the famous Table Mountain. There should be enough room for a pit lane and paddock where the start/finish is marked on the map and there should also be plenty of room for spectator areas along the first three kilometres, where they could be treated to a view of virtually the whole track given the elevation difference. There might only be room for spectators in a few areas between the 3 and 4 km marks but plenty of room along the last few hundred metres.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 17 Mar 2015, 07:55

The locations seems very realistic, at least when thinking from Bernie Ecclestone's viewpoint. With Bahrain and UAE (Abu Dhabi) already having Grand Prix's, Qatar rumoured to have one, it is obvious that Saudi Arabia wants a one.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6558104

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 17 Mar 2015, 13:59

A racetrack I cooked up in Singapore, with some added decorations:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zW2XVM34vDig.k42fnMcgcs84

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 18 Mar 2015, 22:24

Too much Tilke-ish, but i don't care

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559472

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 18 Mar 2015, 22:40

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:Too much Tilke-ish, but i don't care

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559472

Well, the location and layout have to be "realistic for F1", so designing a Tilkedrome in an oil-rich Middle Eastern country has probably won you the contest!

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 18 Mar 2015, 22:51

Simtek wrote:Well, the location and layout have to be "realistic for F1", so designing a Tilkedrome in an oil-rich Middle Eastern country has probably won you the contest!

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Mar 2015, 23:02

Been a while since I did one of these...

Anyway, it was rumoured a while ago that Bernie wanted a race in Thailand. So, here's a 4.4km blast through the streets of Bangkok; I've fit as many landmarks as I could in, and I think that scenery-wise it's quite pretty.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559494

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 18 Mar 2015, 23:52

I'm not sure about the realism, but what if there would be another GP in Buenos Aires?
This semi-street circuit, perhaps?

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559523

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 18 Mar 2015, 23:58

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559532

A street circuit in Luanda, Angola, one of Africa's emerging powers. The final straight offers enough space for the pits, while the nearby port can easily host the paddock.

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 19 Mar 2015, 06:43

http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=400898

Kuwait Grand Prix. Has plenty of room, as is quite accessible (the circuit is only about a kilometre or 2 away from the Kuwait International Airport.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 19 Mar 2015, 11:12

A Circuit In Dubai

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559752

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Mar 2015, 15:37

A 6 km street track in the affluent country of Liechtenstein, with the Alps in the background and open fields to allow for a paddock and room for a purpose-built pitlane to be built, as in Monaco.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6559931

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 20 Mar 2015, 12:04

Alright! I think we have enough entries by know and after careful consideration here is the top three!

1. Wafflecat
Track location: Singapore
A very nice effort. Layout wise its a combination of Interlagos and Magny-Cours.

2. Ataxia
Track location: Bangkok
Good location and layout. Loses to Wafflecat because of the mickey mouse section between 1 and 2 km.

Tied 3. AdrianBelmonte
Track location: Kuwait
A realistic location. The layout comes a bit short though with too many hairpins, even by Tilke standards.

Tied 3. TheFlyingCaterham
Track location: Kuwait
A realistic location. At times the layout is too mickey mouse.

So congratulations mr Wafflecat you're the winner!

watka · Post by **watka** » 20 Mar 2015, 13:27

I really like WaffleCat's track too, reminds me of Interlagos.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 21 Mar 2015, 14:43

Wow…I actually won something…

Anyway, for your next challenge, I introduce…

The Tunnel Track Tournament

- Circuit can be of any type, any style, and shorter than 4 miles
- Has to include a tunnel of some sort, doesn't even need to be a road, even pedestrian underpasses can do fine…
- … as long as it is a realistic enough circuit, as that's one criteria I'm admittedly quite strict on. No alleyway, single lane action, cutting through buildings or even cobblestone roads (no replicating Porto here). Anything else can go as long as you can see cars racing on it.

Post by **tommykl** » 21 Mar 2015, 16:00

Here's my attempt:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6561512

A blast through the centre of Liège, starting at the three-way Sauvenière, perfect for a pit lane. It passes in front of the Royal Opera, the Prince-Bishops' Palace, snakes around the historic Place Saint-Lambert then down Rue Léopold towards the Meuse then over it on the Pont des Arches.

The circuit reaches the island of Outremeuse and quickly moves onto the Boulevard de l'Est, then goes around a roundabout onto the historic market street Rue Puits-en-Sock, then over the Pont d'Amercoeur and the Dérivation into Longdoz. The circuit follows Rue Basse-Wez for a while, then turns left into Rue des Champs, heading towards Rue Grétry, through the city's historic industrial neighbourhood.

Reaching Rue Sopers, the track turns right onto the much wider Boulevard Poincaré, which takes the drivers in the Tunnel sous la Dérivation, a tight, yet sweeping, S-bend under Liège's second river. Snaking under Outremeuse, the tunnel feeds the drivers straight onto the Pont Albert Ier over the Meuse once more, then immediately right onto the Boulevard Rogier. A short and perhaps gratuitous second tunnel under Boulvard Piercot takes the drivers onto the wide Boulevard d'Avroy which, after a short left-hand kink, merges into the Boulevard de la Sauvenière and the end of the track, at about 3.75 miles.

watka · Post by **watka** » 21 Mar 2015, 16:53

Going for the worst track with this one, in Brussels: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6561585