The Marco Simoncelli MotoGP Thread

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 17 Jun 2015, 21:31

F1000X wrote:Well done Marquez. Really keeping your shite together.

Marquez is quickly becoming the Travis Pastrana (Motocross/Supercross) of Moto GP. Very fast but keeps crashing.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 20 Jul 2015, 07:42

Not really correct but anyway last night at Laguna Seca, supporting Superbike Championship, MotoAmerica had a horrific crash that resulted in two ridets diedd. Hard week really for motorsport. RIP

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 27 Jul 2015, 17:26

http://www.racer.com/more/moto-gp/item/ ... ing-arrest
This has shades of Andrea Moda to it!

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 30 Aug 2015, 12:47

With 11 laps to go, this rain at Silverstone is really mixing up things the great way. Come on Petrucci! Come on Ducati! Come on Rossi!

5 laps to go update: COME ON there's time!

2 laps to go update: Ah Rossi breaks the gap

Finish: Meh

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 30 Aug 2015, 13:15

Congratulations anyway. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 01 Sep 2015, 19:33

AxelP800 wrote:Congratulations anyway. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Did you watch the press conference?

Petrucci said;

'I've never been in that situation riding behind Lorenzo and Pedrosa. Only
on the Playstation.'

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 15 Sep 2015, 09:57

What a great race for the Brits at Misano! Last time two shared the podium was 1979! As I don't get BT Sport I had to make
do with the ITV4 highlights and I don't remember even seeing Redding or Smith until about 5 laps from the end of the
race, the coverage they had was awful, with Huewen making no end of errors in his commentary, not impressed.

Also, Smith up to 5th in the championship, doing a great job and proving the many doubters wrong, deservedly getting
another year with the team. Really, under normal circumstances he should be fighting with the Ducatis for 5th at best,
or more likely finishing behind them in 7th, OK so Pedrosa went AWOL for a few races but Bradley's sticking in there
and 5th or 6th is probably better then they could have hoped for.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 15 Sep 2015, 17:39

madmark1974 wrote:What a great race for the Brits at Misano! Last time two shared the podium was 1979! As I don't get BT Sport I had to make do with the ITV4 highlights and I don't remember even seeing Redding or Smith until about 5 laps from the end of the race, the coverage they had was awful, with Huewen making no end of errors in his commentary, not impressed.

I'm the same. Certainly not shelling out for BT Sport just for the MotoGP, so ITV4 it is. Of course, with the races lasting about 45-60 minutes, you hardly miss anything with the highlights package!

On Huewen - there's always a moan every now and then about a commentator for whatever reason. But this clown takes the cake every time. He is a complete mess, and it's not like it's just come with old age - I was watching some old WSBK races from the early 90s and he was commentating on them, just as badly as he does now! I would much rather have Gavin Emmett do the commentary than this fool, he's the one reason I'm not enjoying MotoGP at the moment, everything else about it is great at present!

madmark1974 wrote:Also, Smith up to 5th in the championship, doing a great job and proving the many doubters wrong, deservedly getting another year with the team. Really, under normal circumstances he should be fighting with the Ducatis for 5th at best, or more likely finishing behind them in 7th, OK so Pedrosa went AWOL for a few races but Bradley's sticking in there and 5th or 6th is probably better then they could have hoped for.

Pedrosa is completely spent. He will probably go down as one of the best riders never to win a championship but in all honesty at what point has he ever really been that close? He's a bit like Biaggi in that he had loads of promise in 250s and then a nice cushy factory ride for years and proceeding to do nothing with it.

Smith has had a great year overall. Been largely ahead of Pol for most of the time and the podium is a deserved reward, especially considering he spent the entire race on slicks. Having seen him come up all the way from 125s, he hasn't had the smoothest of careers but I'd like to see what he could do on a factory bike.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see Yamaha, and Suzuki, make a stronger commitment to the series. Forward deserve to have the same bikes Tech 3 are getting, and I'd like to see Suzuki run a satellite team, if only to help them get more competitive. Aspar would be the ideal team and that would get another second class/handicapped team off the grid because despite everything that Dorna (and Honda to their credit) have done, we still have a two-tier series.

All pointless conjecture because of costs, blah, blah but looking back at some of the latter day 500cc races, the competitive fields meant everyone had a chance of victory. Look at the 2000 Philip Island GP and the satellite bikes mixing it with the factory boys. Oh and play "spot the Repsol Hondas"!!

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 15 Sep 2015, 22:41

AndreaModa wrote:All pointless conjecture because of costs, blah, blah but looking back at some of the latter day 500cc races, the competitive fields meant everyone had a chance of victory. Look at the 2000 Philip Island GP and the satellite bikes mixing it with the factory boys. Oh and play "spot the Repsol Hondas"!!

Those bikes were sheer beauty. I know MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3 still provide for some exciting racing, but in no way could they ever reach the glorious days of 125cc, 250cc and 500cc in the 90s. (Plus, you probably know my disdain for everything coming close to a spec series).

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 15 Sep 2015, 23:21

novitopoli wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:All pointless conjecture because of costs, blah, blah but looking back at some of the latter day 500cc races, the competitive fields meant everyone had a chance of victory. Look at the 2000 Philip Island GP and the satellite bikes mixing it with the factory boys. Oh and play "spot the Repsol Hondas"!!

Those bikes were sheer beauty. I know MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3 still provide for some exciting racing, but in no way could they ever reach the glorious days of 125cc, 250cc and 500cc in the 90s. (Plus, you probably know my disdain for everything coming close to a spec series).

But let's be fair here, what we ended up with by the late 1990s, certainly in the 500s, was a formula that had existed for so long with little change which meant the factory backed teams had little advantage over everyone else. And you had a domination by Honda. Yes in the video above, Biaggi wins on the Yamaha and McCoy was right in there, but aside from Roberts Jnr's title on the Suzuki in 2000 and Rossi's on the Yamaha in 2004, every year was a Honda benefit from 1994 onwards!

So my rambling point is, that by the late 1990s the 500s were pretty much as close to a spec series as you'll get without actually having a spec series. That's why the satellite bikes could run so close (and regularly beat) the factory boys. And that's why the racing was so good.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 20 Oct 2015, 09:20

I'd urge anyone with an interest in MotoGp to watch last weekend's race at Phillip Island. Great entertainment,
best race in the top class I've seen for quite a while, in fact, to be honest, most of this year has been pretty good.

Oh, and worth it just to see Andrea Iannone kill a seagull with this headbutt!

https://youtu.be/tOW3byd0I84

(Apparently it actually hit his bike but it sure looks like a proper 'Glaswegian Kiss') ...

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 25 Oct 2015, 08:03

Apparently the clash of Rossi-Marquez is repeating the clash in the 90s but I forgot who are they and what year, I certainly had read it several times. Crossed fingers

Izzyeviel · Post by **Izzyeviel** » 26 Oct 2015, 13:15

Rossi has been robbed.

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 26 Oct 2015, 13:57

Izzyeviel wrote:Rossi has been robbed.

Rossi has robbed himself. Although Marquez lost a lot of sympathy to me, Rossi never should have been that stupid.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 26 Oct 2015, 14:07

Only 3 existence knows the truth: Rossi and Marquez themself and God.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 26 Oct 2015, 18:44

Yeah, I'm disappointed in Rossi, but the contact was far from clear-cut and Marquez has been an arsehole the entire time. Have to say Marc's fallen down in my estimations of him. But Valentino should have been the bigger man and ran his own race, even if it meant 4th rather than 3rd. As it stands, he's going to find it almost impossible to get the job done in Valencia, and that's if he even turns up! He's come out and said he might not even bother!

All said and done though, best season we've had in a while isn't it? I wonder why that is...!

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 27 Oct 2015, 02:54

AndreaModa wrote:Yeah, I'm disappointed in Rossi, but the contact was far from clear-cut and Marquez has been an arsehole the entire time. Have to say Marc's fallen down in my estimations of him. But Valentino should have been the bigger man and ran his own race, even if it meant 4th rather than 3rd. As it stands, he's going to find it almost impossible to get the job done in Valencia, and that's if he even turns up! He's come out and said he might not even bother!

All said and done though, best season we've had in a while isn't it? I wonder why that is...!

Your assertion the clash between the two of them is not clear cut is ridiculous. Rossi looked over his shoulder twice to make sure he knew where Marquez was, then took his leg off of the bike and deliberately pressed it into Marquez helmet. Unless you're some sort of Rossi apologist, that's fairly clear on the tape, as it was to the guys on the World Feed. That was a great battle, one of the best MotoGP has ever seen, up until the point Rossi turned into a scumbag and did that. Now he is almost assured to lose the championship as a result and absolutely deserves to.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 27 Oct 2015, 07:58

To me it looked like Rossi was trying to force Marquez wide, rather than make him crash. Certainly unsportsmanlike, but not as bad as some parts of the sensationalist media are making it out to be. Knocking him to the back of the grid was the right penalty in my opinion.

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 27 Oct 2015, 09:12

RonDenisDeletraz wrote:To me it looked like Rossi was trying to force Marquez wide, rather than make him crash. Certainly unsportsmanlike, but not as bad as some parts of the sensationalist media are making it out to be. Knocking him to the back of the grid was the right penalty in my opinion.

I totally agree. However, despite Rossi was wrong, I still hope that he somehow makes it to the title. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but it would be sensational, wouldn't it?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 28 Oct 2015, 15:59

F1000X wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Yeah, I'm disappointed in Rossi, but the contact was far from clear-cut and Marquez has been an arsehole the entire time. Have to say Marc's fallen down in my estimations of him. But Valentino should have been the bigger man and ran his own race, even if it meant 4th rather than 3rd. As it stands, he's going to find it almost impossible to get the job done in Valencia, and that's if he even turns up! He's come out and said he might not even bother!

All said and done though, best season we've had in a while isn't it? I wonder why that is...!

Your assertion the clash between the two of them is not clear cut is ridiculous. Rossi looked over his shoulder twice to make sure he knew where Marquez was, then took his leg off of the bike and deliberately pressed it into Marquez helmet. Unless you're some sort of Rossi apologist, that's fairly clear on the tape, as it was to the guys on the World Feed. That was a great battle, one of the best MotoGP has ever seen, up until the point Rossi turned into a scumbag and did that. Now he is almost assured to lose the championship as a result and absolutely deserves to.

Re-read what I've written - I said the contact was far from clear cut. There isn't a camera angle that definitely confirms which parts hit what. I'm not disputing that the move was calculated - the fact you think anyone can argue against that is telling. It's obvious Rossi was pissed and had had enough. The descriptions that he effectively booted Marquez off the bike are sensationalist and wide of the mark. There was contact, it was calculated, but from the camera angles it's far from clear-cut as to what exactly it was.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 07 Nov 2015, 18:35

Jorge has one hand on the trophy now.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 08 Nov 2015, 13:55

I'm actually neutral but do it seems that Marquez have 100% chance to overtake Lorenzo at turn 6 for many laps but didn't? I can see what will happen next everywhere on the net.
#RossiChamp
Oops....

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 08 Nov 2015, 14:03

So Jorge Lorenzo snatched the title away from Rossi...

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 08 Nov 2015, 14:22

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 08 Nov 2015, 14:30

Whoever you support (I'll always support Rossi myself) you can't take it away from the top four riders today, they all rode hard and had great races. Rossi cutting through the field did everything he could, Pedrosa with his comeback in the last few laps, Marquez who stayed with Lorenzo despite potential front tyre problems, and of course Lorenzo for putting in a storming pole lap yesterday and leading every lap today. Well done lads!

Post by **mario** » 08 Nov 2015, 21:32

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:So Jorge Lorenzo snatched the title away from Rossi...

He has, but he may yet come to regret the comments that he made afterwards - the fact that he referred to Marquez and Pedrosa helping him out of a shared sense of national pride are likely to raise a lot of questions about Marquez's conduct on track and some uncomfortable headlines for Dorna.

Lorenzo appeared to suggest that Marquez and Pedrosa had helped him at Valencia by not attempting to make a pass during the championship finale, telling the Movistar MotoGP channel: “They knew what I had in play. The fact they are Spaniards like me helped me.

“That helped me because for sure in another kind of race they would have tried to overtake, which they didn't this time.

“If Valentino had been in my position and with Italians behind they would have done exactly the same. The title had to be for Spain.”

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/225017 ... iracy.html

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 09 Nov 2015, 01:54

In the end, Marquez is the biggest loser. I've never seen a driver getting so unpopular in a space of only few races. Schumacher threw his car against Hill and Villeneuve and never had this rejection that Marquez has today.

This indirectly affect Honda image too (if this isn't enough after a shameful year in F1 and Indycar). Obviously the team won't fire Marquez, since he is one of the best riders out here, but I wonder if the team will start to think in a replacement if he keeps with this attitude in the races, as well keeping crashing like in this season.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 03 Apr 2016, 16:48

Dat Moto3 race. Unbelievable

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 18 Apr 2016, 16:42

Jorge Lorenzo will leave Yamaha at the end of the season. Most likely to join Ducati in 2017.

https://twitter.com/MotoGPJules/status/ ... 9530903552

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 19 Apr 2016, 09:05

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Jorge Lorenzo will leave Yamaha at the end of the season. Most likely to join Ducati in 2017.

https://twitter.com/MotoGPJules/status/ ... 9530903552

So with Rossi staying until 2018, who will Yamaha sign?

I think Dovi is likely on his way out of Ducati, can't see him on a Yamaha, so who else may be available? Pedrosa?

Can't see that one either ... Vinales maybe?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 19 Apr 2016, 11:17

Vinales is lined up ready to jump on the Yamaha. It's known that he is the Yamaha management's preferred option, it's just whether Suzuki can convince him that they're competitiveness will continue to rise over the course of this year and into the future. They haven't made a bad start at that at least so it's all still up in the air. I'd still expect Vinales to end up at Yamaha though.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 19 Apr 2016, 15:38

Yup, MCN are suggesting Vinales as well. I can't see Suzuki being able to compete in a bidding war with Yamaha.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2016/april/what-next-for-yamaha/

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 19 Apr 2016, 20:49

madmark1974 wrote:Yup, MCN are suggesting Vinales as well. I can't see Suzuki being able to compete in a bidding war with Yamaha.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2016/april/what-next-for-yamaha/

No, which is a shame for Suzuki because just like they were before they quit, they're on the cusp of podium finishes, bottom half of the top ten sort of stuff and without a world class rider to elevate them that bit higher. They need at least one more bike in a satellite team to help with development and data, and a bit more investment. An actual sponsor would help in that regard!

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 22 May 2016, 12:59

That. Last. Lap. Brilliant.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 26 May 2016, 14:11

Have only just caught up with the last race and had missed all the news about who had signed for who!

So we've got :

Lorenzo and Dovi at Ducati
Rossi and Vinales at Yamaha
Pedrosa and (TBA) (Marquez) at Honda
Iannone and TBA at Suzuki

All of which promises pretty well, all the top riders still there but half of them on different machinery.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 26 May 2016, 14:18

madmark1974 wrote:Have only just caught up with the last race and had missed all the news about who had signed for who!

So we've got :

Lorenzo and Dovi at Ducati
Rossi and Vinales at Yamaha
Pedrosa and (TBA) (Marquez) at Honda
Iannone and TBA at Suzuki

All of which promises pretty well, all the top riders still there but half of them on different machinery.

Yeah, potentially a very interesting season next year, though I'm slightly disappointed that Vinales went to Yamaha instead of staying at Suzuki. There was the potential for Pedrosa to switch to Yamaha which would have been amazing.

Plus you have KTM which already have Smith confirmed and are looking likely to sign Pol Espargaro too.

It would be hilarious if Lorenzo fails to make the Ducati competitive in the same way Rossi and Dovi have!

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 03 Jun 2016, 15:38

Luis salom has died in a practice crash for the moto2 race at Cataluyna
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... tice-crash

R.I.P

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 03 Jun 2016, 16:30

Horrible, sad. I remember him from his Moto3 days and now he's stepping to Moto2. Just saw him racing 2 weeks ago at Mugello.

Another young's dream goes as they are doing what they love.
Good bye, Luis Salom

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 03 Jun 2016, 18:18

I'm gonna post it on spanish, if you let me...

Hasta siempre, Luis...

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 03 Jun 2016, 18:50

Due to the incident they are switching to the f1 layout