Editorial direction of GP Rejects

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 14 Dec 2015, 14:02

Simtek wrote:
giraurd wrote:Another thing I was pondering about is creating a full list of Rejects, adding it onto the website AND trying to cough up at least a couple of paragraphs and tidbits about each of them (ie. not full profiles, but something interesting), preferably past what Wikipedia says. This would make the website serve an actual purpose (lets face it, now there's none) - serving as an information source for the less-known F1 drivers. It would be a big task, but not impossible - if people think it's a good idea, reckon at least I could be quite productive at that.

A full list of rejects does exist here, so the only thing left to do in that regard is to write those short paragraphs. For the sake of everyone's sanity I suggest that one person at the very most do one letter, all the As, for example. The whole list is asking too much for any one person, it would definitely need to be a collaborative effort.

I call letter X!

Yeah, but seriously, I won't mind helping out a little, and I hope everyone else does the same.

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 24 Dec 2015, 06:43

giraurd wrote:
Imho the one thing that needs to regularly get updated on the main site is the Reject of the Race, since we're doing it on the forum anyway. If it's just about lack of people updating, then I'm sure we should find at least someone who could take the responsibility of posting our picks on the main site a few days after each race.

Not to forget about the podcasts.

Along with social media. To get more people you need to heavily utilize social media.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 25 Dec 2015, 03:27

Aguaman wrote:
giraurd wrote:
Imho the one thing that needs to regularly get updated on the main site is the Reject of the Race, since we're doing it on the forum anyway. If it's just about lack of people updating, then I'm sure we should find at least someone who could take the responsibility of posting our picks on the main site a few days after each race.

Not to forget about the podcasts.

Along with social media. To get more people you need to heavily utilize social media

I don't think the problem is a 'lack of people', but 'a lack of things to show for those people'.
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Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 31 Dec 2015, 03:54

giraurd wrote:Another thing I was pondering about is creating a full list of Rejects, adding it onto the website AND trying to cough up at least a couple of paragraphs and tidbits about each of them (ie. not full profiles, but something interesting), preferably past what Wikipedia says. This would make the website serve an actual purpose (lets face it, now there's none) - serving as an information source for the less-known F1 drivers. It would be a big task, but not impossible - if people think it's a good idea, reckon at least I could be quite productive at that.

Returning to this, Old Racing Cars has a complete list of every driver who raced in F1 (even the Indy 500 racers) and excellent short descriptions of them all.

Post by **Ataxia** » 25 Feb 2016, 22:13

Long story short, I've got a season preview for 2016 almost ready; after a final polish once pre-season testing is done, it'll be ready to read (I'm also sitting on a third of a Super Aguri article, just fyi). Because I have no idea what Biscione intends to do with publishing any written content, I was considering the possibility of a separate-but-linked blog using Wordpress for which pieces of interest can be posted whilst the direction of the main site is decided upon.

In doing so, as long as we draw attention to it on the forums and social media accounts, I hope it can build up a bit of a following.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 Feb 2016, 23:00

Ataxia wrote:Long story short, I've got a season preview for 2016 almost ready; after a final polish once pre-season testing is done, it'll be ready to read (I'm also sitting on a third of a Super Aguri article, just fyi). Because I have no idea what Biscione intends to do with publishing any written content, I was considering the possibility of a separate-but-linked blog using Wordpress for which pieces of interest can be posted whilst the direction of the main site is decided upon.

In doing so, as long as we draw attention to it on the forums and social media accounts, I hope it can build up a bit of a following.

Good idea, though it might well end up being the de facto gprejects.com site at this rate!

Any movement on getting the China 2015 ROTR off the homepage Biscione?

Post by **Ataxia** » 26 Feb 2016, 00:53

AndreaModa wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Long story short, I've got a season preview for 2016 almost ready; after a final polish once pre-season testing is done, it'll be ready to read (I'm also sitting on a third of a Super Aguri article, just fyi). Because I have no idea what Biscione intends to do with publishing any written content, I was considering the possibility of a separate-but-linked blog using Wordpress for which pieces of interest can be posted whilst the direction of the main site is decided upon.

In doing so, as long as we draw attention to it on the forums and social media accounts, I hope it can build up a bit of a following.

Good idea, though it might well end up being the de facto gprejects.com site at this rate!

Any movement on getting the China 2015 ROTR off the homepage Biscione?

He's still waiting for the Chinese marshals to get it into the pits...

Post by **Miguel98** » 26 Feb 2016, 19:25

Good one Taxi

I'm planning, together with Londoner, write some race-by-race reviews. Hope everyone is fine with that!

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 03 Mar 2016, 20:30

Front page of the site updated! :deletraz:

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 03 Mar 2016, 20:41

shinji wrote:Front page of the site updated!

Yes, I know the Chinese GP marshals are slow, but I didn't expect it would take ten moths to push Verstappen's car off our front page.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 03 Mar 2016, 21:31

shinji wrote:Front page of the site updated!

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 04 Mar 2016, 16:07

Also, This Day in Reject History will be posted on the site's Twitter and Facebook pages starting Sunday, now that the thread is about to come full circle.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Mar 2016, 13:25

pi314159 wrote:
shinji wrote:Front page of the site updated!

Yes, I know the Chinese GP marshals are slow, but I didn't expect it would take ten moths to push Verstappen's car off our front page.

We take meta to a whole new level.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 07 Mar 2016, 23:07

pi314159 wrote:I didn't expect it would take ten months to push Verstappen's car off our front page.

Exactly.

On the other hand, if it had been an HRT...

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 09 Mar 2016, 01:03

Biscione wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
shinji wrote:Front page of the site updated!

Yes, I know the Chinese GP marshals are slow, but I didn't expect it would take ten moths to push Verstappen's car off our front page.

We take meta to a whole new level.

Campos Meta?

In all seriousness, some of you may be aware of my intentions to post classic race reviews of a previous grand prix.

For example, with Australia i'm working on a 1995 review, as it was a memorable race with lots of reject moments.

DC's pitlane blunder
Moreno's spin at the same spot
Morbidelli podium
Pedro Lamy in the points
Forti and Pacific scoring their best ever results.

For other races aside from Europe (i'm dead set on 1999, any opportunity to cast Luca Badoer in a good light), i'm open to suggestions.

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Mar 2016, 13:20

WE HAVE NEW CONTENT AT LONG LAST! Ataxia's season preview has been published on the main page. :dance:

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 15 Mar 2016, 16:17

Great job all round guys. Particularly enjoyed Mario's article on Zakspeed-Yamaha. Was that originally published on the old site, because when I saw it initially it did ring a bell. Either way, great to have it up, along with the others.

What's up next?

girry · Post by **girry** » 15 Mar 2016, 16:19

Indeed, great one Ataxia - way better than any of "professional" journalists will cough up all year in my country, obviously.

@AndreaModa: I remember too reading the Mario article on Zakspeed engine earlier, so think it was published on the F1R site.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Mar 2016, 17:45

AndreaModa wrote:Great job all round guys. Particularly enjoyed Mario's article on Zakspeed-Yamaha. Was that originally published on the old site, because when I saw it initially it did ring a bell. Either way, great to have it up, along with the others.

What's up next?

Yes, it was one of the last things to be put on F1R. We are slowly uploading old content that didn't belong to Jenoch, so some other little historical bits will start appearing.

As for future content, that doesn't look so bright! Aside from a little bonus thing in the next day or two, nothing else is lined up as of yet.

Post by **Ataxia** » 15 Mar 2016, 18:13

AndreaModa wrote:Great job all round guys. Particularly enjoyed Mario's article on Zakspeed-Yamaha. Was that originally published on the old site, because when I saw it initially it did ring a bell. Either way, great to have it up, along with the others.

What's up next?

First of all, thanks for the kind words guys!

As for what's next, I've got a Super Aguri piece in the works at the moment, although that'll take a few weeks to finish and check over since it's quite lengthy already! After that, I'm sure I'll keep doing little bits and pieces as the year goes on (I might venture into GP2 and GP3 previews if there's interest for that, for example).

Of course, it'll be nice to see some other contributions; there's a few people with plans for content, but Biscione's not happy until he sees actual progress

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 15 Mar 2016, 18:14

AndreaModa wrote:Great job all round guys. Particularly enjoyed Mario's article on Zakspeed-Yamaha. Was that originally published on the old site, because when I saw it initially it did ring a bell. Either way, great to have it up, along with the others.

What's up next?

The F1 95 review by TomPryce was also on the old site. Great to see we're slowly getting back on our feet!

I guess here is a good place to fill you all in on the progress of the Joe Kelly profile: It's finished! Or at least, just about. I just need to sort out the images, of which I have plenty. It's just a matter of deciding which ones to use, where to place them etc, which shouldn't take too long anyway. It's still not hugely long, but the word count is about twice as much as it was before and more importantly it contains information that you would probably struggle to find anywhere else

Post by **Miguel98** » 15 Mar 2016, 19:07

Me and Londoner can't present any progress until Sunday really

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Mar 2016, 19:25

Miguel98 wrote:Me and Londoner can't present any progress until Sunday really

Indeed.

I'm currently researching for my Sauber 2014 article, but that's still at least two months away from being written, thanks to dissertation. After that, I've got plans to do other rejectful F1 seasons for teams, perhaps Benetton 2001 or Jaguar 2000, or Honda 2007-2008. Actually,a full-blown article examining the Jaguar debacle would be pretty cool, but that'll take a long time to write.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 16 Mar 2016, 11:00

My Classic Australian GP review had been sent, and it's now just awaiting approval and any amendments that may need to be made.

I have an idea for China, but open to suggestions still. Most likely it'll be 2006.

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Mar 2016, 11:09

FullMetalJack wrote:My Classic Australian GP review had been sent, and it's now just awaiting approval and any amendments that may need to be made.

I have an idea for China, but open to suggestions still. Most likely it'll be 2006.

2010 was fairly rejectful, with Hamilton, Vettel and the Ferraris racing down the pitlane like total cockwombles, Button almost causing a pile-up at the restart, loads of cars pitting for the wrong tyres for the weather, Virgin having a howler of a race, and of course, Buemi's bizarre accident in free practice. It was also the race that proved Schumacher was past it.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 16 Mar 2016, 12:13

FullMetalJack wrote:My Classic Australian GP review had been sent, and it's now just awaiting approval and any amendments that may need to be made.

I have an idea for China, but open to suggestions still. Most likely it'll be 2006.

I managed to read through it. Great work, man. With a little bit of tidying up and some pictures it should be ready for the main page

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 16 Mar 2016, 13:09

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I take it you appreciated my paragraph towards the end about Simtek. I felt they deserved a mention.

Agree with you that a few images would be good, of Pacific and Forti obviously.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Mar 2016, 09:41

We're going into the spoof news business!

There will be a subsection of the website called The Gravel Trap, dedicated to "news" articles taking a sideways look at the sport's topical issues.

In our first story off the presses, we cover the Driver of the Day public vote fiasco, which after attempting to clean up the system, ended with a surprising winner.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 22 Mar 2016, 09:45

Love it!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Mar 2016, 11:21

Now, where have my papayas gone?

Love the significance of the number of votes obtained by those in 2nd and 3rd places.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Mar 2016, 11:41

dr-baker wrote:Love the significance of the number of votes obtained by those in 2nd and 3rd places.

I was wondering how long someone would take to get it :deletraz:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Mar 2016, 11:49

Biscione wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Love the significance of the number of votes obtained by those in 2nd and 3rd places.

I was wondering how long someone would take to get it

Considering how long I spent on that team's thread...

girry · Post by **girry** » 22 Mar 2016, 15:47

I love the parodic touch. Great work.

Post by **Miguel98** » 26 Mar 2016, 18:11

The race review from Australia done by me and Londoner is up on the main page right now!

Ducktanian · Post by **Ducktanian** » 28 Mar 2016, 08:27

I'm loving these new articles.
Keep up the good work!

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 28 Apr 2016, 17:41

I might begin researching another profile soon, this one on Don Beauman, a mid-fifties reject who was killed in a racing accident only a few miles from where I live. His death produced something of a shock here in Ireland, possibly being the catalyst to the cessation of motor racing in Wicklow and at the Curragh, where there was another accident that killed a driver and a marshal.

That said, I do have a few things I need to get out of the way first before diving straight into the research, so we'll see.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 01 May 2016, 15:06

Simtek wrote:I might begin researching another profile soon, this one on Don Beauman, a mid-fifties reject who was killed in a racing accident only a few miles from where I live. His death produced something of a shock here in Ireland, possibly being the catalyst to the cessation of motor racing in Wicklow and at the Curragh, where there was another accident that killed a driver and a marshal.

That said, I do have a few things I need to get out of the way first before diving straight into the research, so we'll see.

And I have in fact started now, so the chances of this actually getting done have considerably increased

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 24 May 2016, 02:42

Just throwing out an idea here, so be prepared to shoot it down if necessary: What do people think of the possibility of doing obituaries for recently deceased rejects? I think it would be a nice thing to do and there are very few rejects whose deaths would likely be reported by major motorsport publications, so there could be something of a niche there.

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 24 May 2016, 06:04

Simtek wrote:Just throwing out an idea here, so be prepared to shoot it down if necessary: What do people think of the possibility of doing obituaries for recently deceased rejects? I think it would be a nice thing to do and there are very few rejects whose deaths would likely be reported by major motorsport publications, so there could be something of a niche there.

Yep I think that would be nice - that's what this website is all about, glory to those who deserve recognition but never got it.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 03 Aug 2016, 18:55

AustralianStig wrote:
Simtek wrote:Just throwing out an idea here, so be prepared to shoot it down if necessary: What do people think of the possibility of doing obituaries for recently deceased rejects? I think it would be a nice thing to do and there are very few rejects whose deaths would likely be reported by major motorsport publications, so there could be something of a niche there.

Yep I think that would be nice - that's what this website is all about, glory to those who deserve recognition but never got it.

On the subject of this, I'm considering turning this into an end-of-year retrospective, sort of like what Autocourse do in their annuals (or so I'm led to believe).

On another subject, I wouldn't mind doing reviews of rejectful car racing films, or hell, even the good ones like Le Mans. I always felt Jenoch were being very generous in their Driven review (and oddly not generous enough in their Talladega Nights review).

I also really need to get my arse into gear with the Seb Buemi profile. Three weeks on and I'm still only as far as his F3 career...

It would also be extremely awkward if he got the Renault drive for next year, as some rumours are suggesting...

And then there's the Don Beauman profile that's finished but unpublished for some reason...