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I remember reading about future involvement of this car manufacturer in F1 a couple of years ago. Well that future is now and obviously there is no trace of a Hyundai F1 team even with Korean GP on schedule and it's probably because of the whole BIGGEST ECONOMICAL CRISIS SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION thing. However I'd like to ask you good people of f1rejects if you know any more info about this project and maybe other past aborted manufacturer attempts or possible future manufacturers. Speculation is very welcome.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/23/hyun ... 1-in-2010/
http://www.autospies.com/news/Hyundai-p ... 2010-9441/
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I think the chance to see a Hyundai F1 is the same as the chance to see USF1 on the grid.
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Honda had a couple of false starts before buying BAR in 2006. I know in '98 or '99 Verstappen tested a prospective Honda car, and there was another one in about 1993.
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shinji wrote:Honda had a couple of false starts before buying BAR in 2006. I know in '98 or '99 Verstappen tested a prospective Honda car, and there was another one in about 1993.


There are some differences that have to be accounted between these two manufacturers. Honda had once a F-1 team, back in the 60s, and they were a successful engine supplier from 1983 to 1992, not counting the Mugen-Honda engines. What is Hyundai's experience?
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rffp wrote:
shinji wrote:Honda had a couple of false starts before buying BAR in 2006. I know in '98 or '99 Verstappen tested a prospective Honda car, and there was another one in about 1993.


There are some differences that have to be accounted between these two manufacturers. Honda had once a F-1 team, back in the 60s, and they were a successful engine supplier from 1983 to 1992, not counting the Mugen-Honda engines. What is Hyundai's experience?


Yeah, just saying that in response to

Mister Fungus wrote: However I'd like to ask you good people of f1rejects if you know any more info about this project and maybe other past aborted manufacturer attempts or possible future manufacturers.
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shinji wrote:Yeah, just saying that in response to

Mister Fungus wrote: However I'd like to ask you good people of f1rejects if you know any more info about this project and maybe other past aborted manufacturer attempts or possible future manufacturers.


Oh, OK, understood now.
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Mister Fungus wrote:I remember reading about future involvement of this car manufacturer in F1 a couple of years ago. Well that future is now and obviously there is no trace of a Hyundai F1 team even with Korean GP on schedule and it's probably because of the whole BIGGEST ECONOMICAL CRISIS SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION thing. However I'd like to ask you good people of f1rejects if you know any more info about this project and maybe other past aborted manufacturer attempts or possible future manufacturers. Speculation is very welcome.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/23/hyun ... 1-in-2010/
http://www.autospies.com/news/Hyundai-p ... 2010-9441/

I seem to recall that Hyundai weathered the recession better than most manufacturers. However, I can't imagine they would have been enthused about the mass manufacturer exodus during said recession.
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A big, fat NO. Who does need them anyway?
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Phoenix wrote:A big, fat NO. Who does need them anyway?


A potential reject team is always welcome by me.
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I'd quite like to see a Hyundai team. I think Volvo and Saab would make good teams too.

Or how about Geely?
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I'd think they'd sooner consider rejoining the WRC since

a.) They don't really sell a performance car that F1 could possibly help promote...like Toyota...and Honda

b.) They've got a history in WRC, so theoretically resuming a programme would be somewhat...easier

c.) The S2000 regulations should suit a tiny little Hyundai well

d.) I can just hear Richard Hammond saying 'hyoooooooooondaaaaaaaiiiii'

e.) Profit?!
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If we're talking about Korean automakers going into F1, how about Daewoo and Kia?
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Or combining USF1 and Hyundai into hyUSF1nday
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Or what about Sdaewaan F1?
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As much as I would welcome Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo into F1, I would extend a personal invitation to Ssangyong. If they can do this with a car ...

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... imagine what they could do for F1 design!
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eytl wrote:As much as I would welcome Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo into F1, I would extend a personal invitation to Ssangyong. If they can do this with a car ...

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... imagine what they could do for F1 design!

WIth current trends, I think they'd fit right in!
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eytl wrote:As much as I would welcome Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo into F1, I would extend a personal invitation to Ssangyong. If they can do this with a car ...

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... imagine what they could do for F1 design!


If Ssangyong did enter F1, their car would make the 2008 Honda (with all its ugly winglets, dumbo wings and stepped barge boards) actually look good :lol: .
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eytl wrote:As much as I would welcome Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo into F1, I would extend a personal invitation to Ssangyong. If they can do this with a car ...

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... imagine what they could do for F1 design!


Argh thats hideous.

Apparently their biggest shareholder makes concrete. You learn something every day.
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Jynister wrote: Saab would make good teams too.


Counting there now owned by Spyker, they probably wouldent
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MaxZero wrote:
Jynister wrote: Saab would make good teams too.


Counting there now owned by Spyker, they probably wouldent


This is a shame. Saab still deserve all the praise in the World.
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Jynister wrote:
MaxZero wrote:
Jynister wrote: Saab would make good teams too.


Counting there now owned by Spyker, they probably wouldent


This is a shame. Saab still deserve all the praise in the World.


For adding new aero parts to Vauxhall Vectras?

I don't think Super Aguri were highly praised (by the general public) for bolting new parts onto the Arrows A23...which is basically the same.
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kostas22 wrote:
I don't think Super Aguri were highly praised (by the general public) for bolting new parts onto the Arrows A23...which is basically the same.


Saab do it Swedishly though. The public love Sweden. IKEA and all that. Saab is like the IKEA of cars. Super Aguri is the Argos.
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Jynister wrote:
eytl wrote:As much as I would welcome Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo into F1, I would extend a personal invitation to Ssangyong. If they can do this with a car ...

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... imagine what they could do for F1 design!


Argh thats hideous.

Apparently their biggest shareholder makes concrete. You learn something every day.


That might explain why any attempt to make the car look vaguely attractive went out of the window very early on - it looks like the automotive equivalent of a 60's concrete tower block.

Jynister wrote:
MaxZero wrote:
Jynister wrote: Saab would make good teams too.


Counting there now owned by Spyker, they probably wouldent


This is a shame. Saab still deserve all the praise in the World.

We have had one manufacturer of quirky cars that haven't sold well recently being bought by an even smaller manufacturer of quirky cars that don't sell well at all - niether of whom have made any money at all for years. So, mcuh as I wish them success, how long until they run out of cash?
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Never. Saab have infinite reserves.

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Team Fondmetal Malaysia should have entered under the guise of Perodua:

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