Best Reject-team Liveries

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 16 May 2009, 17:36

Seeing as we've discussed the worst non-reject liveries, I figured I'd flip it around and ask you: What in your opinion are the best looking liveries ever to grace a Reject-car?

My first submission is a livery that I've always had an odd liking of. The 1995 Pacific:

Second is another livery I've always thought looked great. the 1989 EuroBrun

Discuss!

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 16 May 2009, 17:55

I like both of those liveries. I've always liked the Pacific colours, especially with the subtle Lotus addition, and the orange was certainly an improvement for EuroBrun after that dirty shade of white they used in 1988.

watka · Post by **watka** » 16 May 2009, 19:58

I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 16 May 2009, 20:25

watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

That car just looks slow.

domi-kun · Post by **domi-kun** » 16 May 2009, 20:30

thehemogoblin wrote:
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

That car just looks slow.

Who's driving the car in this picture, I don't recognize that helmet.

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 16 May 2009, 20:48

1996 Forti-Shannon wasn't that bad.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 16 May 2009, 20:57

I'd forgotten that Forti ever used a colour other than yellow that year.

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 16 May 2009, 21:04

Paul Hayes wrote:I'd forgotten that Forti ever used a colour other than yellow that year.

whoops, it was 1996, typo.

watka · Post by **watka** » 16 May 2009, 21:04

domi-kun wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

That car just looks slow.

Who's driving the car in this picture, I don't recognize that helmet.

It's Stefan Johansson.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 16 May 2009, 21:09

watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

Actually, thats Onyx.

This is Monteverdi:

Yes, its the same car and same team, only the owner and main sponsorship changed

Still, the green stripes on the monteverdi looked horrid.

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 17 May 2009, 03:15

I also liked the livery on the Pacific PR02, the wavy Lotus stripe was a thing of beauty. I didn't recall Forti using green wheels in 1996, but those are a nice touch carried over from 1995. Such a pity the Shannon money never eventuated.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 17 May 2009, 03:53

Jack O Malley wrote:
Paul Hayes wrote:I'd forgotten that Forti ever used a colour other than yellow that year.

whoops, it was 1996, typo.

Ah, I am relieved now that the old memory still has something going for it! 1995 was the season in which I became an F1 fan, so a lot of it seems to stick in the mind.

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 17 May 2009, 11:50

I think that the canary yellow was a much better colour on the Forti. The Shannon colours were quite dull and didn't really reflect the team's Italian/Brazilian heritage in my opinion. It's quite funny, because as soon as I saw those Shannon colours when they appeared at Barcelona in 1996, I thought that it wouldn't last, and the fact that neither Forti qualified that weekend said it all really.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 17 May 2009, 12:12

I like the looks of the Fondmetal of 1992, but that's more down to the shape of the car than the colour scheme.

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 17 May 2009, 12:16

Yannick wrote:I like the looks of the Fondmetal of 1992, but that's more down to the shape of the car than the colour scheme.

Funnily enough the 1995 Forti was allegedly based on the 1992 Fondmetal, and like you, I rather liked the shape of the 1992 Fondmetal, so perhaps that's part of the reason why I like the 1995 Forti so much.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 17 May 2009, 12:21

Well you guys have already represented quite a few of my favourites, but there's still one that I like: the 1989 Rial

I like that combination of blue and white with a black rear wing as some contrast.

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 17 May 2009, 12:37

I was rather fond of the 1989 Osella livery, simple but effective.

Going back to the Forti livery discussion, here is a picture of the gourgeous (in my opinion) 1995 Forti:

Also, the 1996 Forti prior to the Shannon era was very attractive in my view:

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 17 May 2009, 13:55

Yellow Fortis all the way for me.

crazydude1992 · Post by **crazydude1992** » 17 May 2009, 16:04

I quite like this one.

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 17 May 2009, 18:28

The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 17 May 2009, 20:52

Valrys wrote:The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well.

I like those colours too. And I like the yellow Fortis as well, even if all that yellow always makes me think about a big piece of cheese. By the way I really can't look at the shape of the first '95 Forti (the pic with PPD in BAires), with that bulky front and extremely thin nose.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 18 May 2009, 18:30

I give you the 1991 Coloni C4

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 18 May 2009, 21:20

That car is startlingly devoid of sponsorship.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 18 May 2009, 21:43

yeah.... you dont see cars like that these days lol.....

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 18 May 2009, 23:14

WeirdKerr wrote:yeah.... you dont see cars like that these days lol.....

brawn?

Life w12 · Post by **Life w12** » 19 May 2009, 13:15

Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good

Python · Post by **Python** » 19 May 2009, 19:19

Valrys wrote:
The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

That is nice looking car, paint and design wise as well.

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 19 May 2009, 20:54

Life w12 wrote:Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good

I particularly like the gaffer tape holding on the engine cover!

Goa · Post by **Goa** » 20 May 2009, 05:51

Life w12 wrote:Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good

It does look good, but you're also more or less able to tell that it was slow just by looking at it.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 20 May 2009, 08:14

noisebox wrote:
Life w12 wrote:Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good

I particularly like the gaffer tape holding on the engine cover!

Thank you for making my day :mrgreen:

And it would need quite a bit of that tape too considering the size of those sidepods. They're tiny...

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 20 May 2009, 19:40

I agree that the 1992 Fondmetal is a good looking car, but has anyone noticed, and I know I've mentioned this before, how similar it looks to the Forti FG01 before they made the 'B' Spec with the high nose for the 1995 French Grand Prix onwards?

I had previously read about the notion that the FG01 was based on the GR02 (both were designed by Sergio Rinland), but having seen pictures of both together for the first time really does suggest to me that this rumour is accurate.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's Andrea Chiesa driving the Fondmetal in that photo (I'm sure his car was number fourteen), and that's the first time I've seen his helmet colour, which I think contrasts very well with the colour scheme of the Fondmetal.

minrdi · Post by **minrdi** » 21 May 2009, 00:16

Irisado wrote:I agree that the 1992 Fondmetal is a good looking car, but has anyone noticed, and I know I've mentioned this before, how similar it looks to the Forti FG01 before they made the 'B' Spec with the high nose for the 1995 French Grand Prix onwards?

I had previously read about the notion that the FG01 was based on the GR02 (both were designed by Sergio Rinland), but having seen pictures of both together for the first time really does suggest to me that this rumour is accurate.

I'm sure I read somewhere (probably on the pages of F1 Rejects!) that Rinland was a big fan of the "shark nose" design concept at the front end of his cars, which he implemented on both the Fondmetal and Fortis. In each instance, sadly, the cars were fitted with grossly underpowered engines and were very overweight (particularly the Forti), so the merits of this design concept could never actually be truly weighed up.

The Fondmetal actually appeared on a F1 Racing poll of the "Top-100 most beautiful F1 cars ever built", although I think that Rinland being a panellist for that particularly poll may have had quite a bit to do with it.

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 21 May 2009, 21:43

Valrys wrote:
The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

I think that picture was taken at Spa - in which case I was at that race. A certain promising young German driver picked up his first win...

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 21 May 2009, 22:07

noisebox wrote:
Valrys wrote:
The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

I think that picture was taken at Spa - in which case I was at that race. A certain promising young German driver picked up his first win...

I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...

minrdi · Post by **minrdi** » 21 May 2009, 22:14

I forgot to post this in my lasty reply, but it's interesting that we haven't yet mentioned the Simtek team's liveries, which must surely rank as among the best liveries of a reject team:

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 22 May 2009, 01:02

Jack O Malley wrote:I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...

The other hint would be the Rhone-Poulenc adverts in the background.

minrdi wrote:I forgot to post this in my lasty reply, but it's interesting that we haven't yet mentioned the Simtek team's liveries, which must surely rank as among the best liveries of a reject team

While I agree that the paint schemes were nice, my aversion to MTV will not allow me to comment further.

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 22 May 2009, 09:51

RejectSteve wrote:
Jack O Malley wrote:I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...
The other hint would be the Rhone-Poulenc adverts in the background.

Yep, I got it from this.

I've always liked the Simtek colour scheme...

Niallllll · Post by **Niallllll** » 22 May 2009, 10:24

My aversion to SImtek is the fact that is enabled 'Davina mcCaul' into the paddock as part of the menagerie of journalists that swan about the place. Which is directly connected with MTV is suppose since she was working with them at the time.
She openly admitted that she had no clue who was who and what was what while there. That annoys me no end.

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 22 May 2009, 18:37

Jack O Malley wrote:I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...

And the rather large Rhone Poulenc ad in the background... :roll:

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 23 May 2009, 01:04

DonTirri wrote:
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

Actually, thats Onyx.

This is Monteverdi:

Yes, its the same car and same team, only the owner and main sponsorship changed

Still, the green stripes on the monteverdi looked horrid.

That guy's helmet design looks a bit like Kovalainen's. Who is that, Gregor Foitek?