Dear forumites,
To celebrate the 20th anniversary of Mastercard Lola's, erm, failure to qualify at Melbourne in 1997, the erudite dr-baker has crafted a great retrospective of Lola Cars' F1 efforts down the years. He's also admirably put up with my meddling, and so deserves double the amount of plaudits here!
You can read about Lola here, or meet her in a club in North Soho: http://gprejects.com/centrale/lola-cars-retrospective
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Well done lads. Baker may not be a doctor in real life, but he can surely earn an honorary doctorate after this effort. Most timely too.
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Me either Jolyn, maybe that's why we're both out, eh?
"When I was still racing, I never once thought 'Oh, I can't damage the car here'." - Jolyn Palmer
Me either Jolyn, maybe that's why we're both out, eh?
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Ataxia wrote:
You can read about Lola here, or meet her in a club in North Soho: http://gprejects.com/centrale/lola-cars-retrospective
Don't forget that she was a showgirl down at the Copacabana. Maybe that's why the team did not succeed in Brazil?
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Thank you for the overview of the long history of Lola Cars, Ltd., in and around F1.
A list of the drivers of Larrousse-Lola's drivers who scored the 10 mentioned 6th places would have been a worthy addition to the article, especially in case of the respective drivers' eligibility for a profile on the F1Rejects website.
Good for the company that they were more successful in other forms of motorsports.
A list of the drivers of Larrousse-Lola's drivers who scored the 10 mentioned 6th places would have been a worthy addition to the article, especially in case of the respective drivers' eligibility for a profile on the F1Rejects website.
Good for the company that they were more successful in other forms of motorsports.
"I don't think we should be used to finance (the manufacturers') R&D because they will produce that engine anyway" said Monisha Kaltenborn.
"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
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Yannick wrote:A list of the drivers of Larrousse-Lola's drivers who scored the 10 mentioned 6th places would have been a worthy addition to the article, especially in case of the respective drivers' eligibility for a profile on the F1Rejects website.
For reference, these were Philippe Alliot (x4), Eric Bernard (x3) and Aguri Suzuki (x3). So clearly, they had all done enough individually to avoid reject status with these results alone, without taking other results into account. Reason for their omission was simply to avoid the article just turning into a list of names at various points.
Reference link.
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
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dr-baker wrote:They also submitted an application to rejoin F1 for the 2010 season but, much like their MasterCard transactions 13 years prior, this was declined.
Top banana. I'll be wishing I'd have thought of that line for years to come!
And while it's 20 years since Mastercard Lola failed to get on the grid at Melbourne, it's also (give or take a few months) 20 years since I left school. Back in those days, CDT students (I wasn't one) would occasionally be sent on a field trip to the Lola factory to get an idea of how racing cars are designed. How the mighty have fallen, and I wonder where those field trips go now? It would have to be within reasonable range of Bishop's Stortford and, likely as not, not an F1 team who wouldn't want to give away their secrets to some acne-riddled schoolkids, just in case one of them ends up with a job with a rival team a few years down the line.
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"...the Life W12, I can't describe the noise to you, but imagine filling your dustbin with nuts and bolts, and then throwing it down the stairs, it was something akin to that!"
"...the Life W12, I can't describe the noise to you, but imagine filling your dustbin with nuts and bolts, and then throwing it down the stairs, it was something akin to that!"
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dinizintheoven wrote:dr-baker wrote:They also submitted an application to rejoin F1 for the 2010 season but, much like their MasterCard transactions 13 years prior, this was declined.
Top banana. I'll be wishing I'd have thought of that line for years to come!
And while it's 20 years since Mastercard Lola failed to get on the grid at Melbourne, it's also (give or take a few months) 20 years since I left school. Back in those days, CDT students (I wasn't one) would occasionally be sent on a field trip to the Lola factory to get an idea of how racing cars are designed. How the mighty have fallen, and I wonder where those field trips go now? It would have to be within reasonable range of Bishop's Stortford and, likely as not, not an F1 team who wouldn't want to give away their secrets to some acne-riddled schoolkids, just in case one of them ends up with a job with a rival team a few years down the line.
I believe that some teams do still run tours of their factories during the summer break period - I am fairly sure that, whilst they were still operating under the Lotus name, the team at Enstone was one of those teams, though I am not sure if they still do that after the takeover by Renault.
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning:
"The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
"The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
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Excellent article. I think the 1997 T97/30 project also did damage beyond F1; their initial version of Indycar chassis that year was absolutely horrendous (the T97/00) and nearly drove them out of the sport. They did eventually recover when Reynard decided to goof off with BAR and it compromised their CART effort.
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dr-baker wrote:Yannick wrote:A list of the drivers of Larrousse-Lola's drivers who scored the 10 mentioned 6th places would have been a worthy addition to the article, especially in case of the respective drivers' eligibility for a profile on the F1Rejects website.
For reference, these were Philippe Alliot (x4), Eric Bernard (x3) and Aguri Suzuki (x3). So clearly, they had all done enough individually to avoid reject status with these results alone, without taking other results into account. Reason for their omission was simply to avoid the article just turning into a list of names at various points.
Reference link.
Suzuki and Bernard were good drivers but it's baffling that Philipe Alliot's career lasted as long as it did. Nice man though.