Your Reject of the Race - Bahrain!

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 12 Mar 2010, 13:52

Friday has come to an end, so you know what that means: that's right, it's time for Your Reject of the Race! Nominate whoever you think has been Rejectful so far.

However, here is a special proviso for Bahrain only: Virgin, Hispania and Lotus are immune. You may not vote for any of the new teams or their drivers, even if they are eleven seconds off the pace. The reason why is because a) they've already made a gargantuan effort to get here and b) they were never going to be competitive. They deserve to be applauded, not branded as Rejects.

That said, if they do something stupid - like drive around the circuit the wrong way - you an nominate them. You just can't cite a bad lap time as being Rejectful.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 12 Mar 2010, 13:53

okay, okay...
Buemi it will be then, for being outpaced by Alguersuari.

Does this mean I have to adjust my prediction in the predictions thread?

Popi_Larrauri · Post by **Popi_Larrauri** » 12 Mar 2010, 13:58

My vote goes to USF1, the most expensive nosecone ever.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Mar 2010, 14:43

I'll try my luck with Vitaly Petrov...

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 12 Mar 2010, 14:46

Sauber - it appears they flattered to deceive in testing.

Jordan192 · Post by **Jordan192** » 12 Mar 2010, 14:47

Schuey! Pfft, can't even beat Nico Rosberg, the part-timer.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Mar 2010, 15:08

You obviously didnt read the rules, Pheonix :lol:

If a decision has to be made before qualifying, I am going to say Rubens Barrichello

JeanDenisAlcatraz · Post by **JeanDenisAlcatraz** » 12 Mar 2010, 15:16

Jenson Button.

I like the guy, but he'll get immediately taken down a peg or two by Lewis.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 12 Mar 2010, 15:40

So far, it's the bumps at turns 6-7. They've already caused some danger.

LionZoo · Post by **LionZoo** » 12 Mar 2010, 15:46

How about...

Making predictions based on Friday form.

!!!

Many Blue Flags · Post by **Many Blue Flags** » 12 Mar 2010, 15:53

For now I'm gonna go with Renault given that they're throwing the toys out the cot again with McLaren's technological innovation.

JeanDenisAlcatraz · Post by **JeanDenisAlcatraz** » 12 Mar 2010, 15:56

Can I change mine to Max Mosley for the farcical new teams?

Dave Richards must be laughing his socks off that Prodrive weren't picked over this bunch of no-hopers.

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:03

I'll go for Pedro de la Rosa.

Keirdre · Post by **Keirdre** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:19

Schumacher. He's going to run into the back of someone at Turn 1.

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:22

The FIA - why can't they be pragmatic about McLaren's air intake - allow it for this race and then ban it from Melbourne onwards. Then at least all the other teams won't have to attack their cars with hacksaws to get the same advantage.

They should've done the same with wheel covers a couple of years ago. Common sense, not that difficult really.

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:24

Captain Hammer wrote:Friday has come to an end, so you know what that means: that's right, it's time for Your Reject of the Race! Nominate whoever you think has been Rejectful so far.

However, here is a special proviso for Bahrain only: Virgin, Hispania and Lotus are immune. You may not vote for any of the new teams or their drivers, even if they are eleven seconds off the pace. The reason why is because a) they've already made a gargantuan effort to get here and b) they were never going to be competitive. They deserve to be applauded, not branded as Rejects.

That said, if they do something stupid - like drive around the circuit the wrong way - you an nominate them. You just can't cite a bad lap time as being Rejectful.

Sorry, just read the rules. I nominate Virgin, HRT and Lotus. You don't need to tell us how to think.

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:29

I nominate Cristiano da Matta, because I like him and haven't heard of him for some time.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:37

P_Friesacher wrote:I nominate Cristiano da Matta, because I like him and haven't heard of him for some time.

he will run in the brazilian truck series (a.k.a formula truck) in this year

c-burg · Post by **c-burg** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:43

wow people being nice when it comes to the new teams...damn but I'm going to go with Rosberg b/c he is doing well now but will just no live up to expectations

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:48

Dj_bereta wrote:
P_Friesacher wrote:I nominate Cristiano da Matta, because I like him and haven't heard of him for some time.

he will run in the brazilian truck series (a.k.a formula truck) in this year

Good to know, thanks. I understand from the series' homepage he will be joined by Indycar one-time winner Felipe Giaffone (and Bruno Junqueira! and Gastón Mazzacane! and someone called Geraldo Piquet!) in the series. Truck racing must have a pretty high status in Brazilian motorsports then? (Sorry to hijack the thread like this!)

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:56

The new extension on the circuit, it looks impossible to overtake there.

Jordan192 · Post by **Jordan192** » 12 Mar 2010, 16:59

redbulljack14 wrote:The new extension on the circuit, it looks impossible to overtake there.

That's not what it's there for, though. It shifts the aero balance of the circuit as a whole to a higher-downforce setup, which should in turn give (hopefully) more pronounced slipstreams on the straights. It probably won't help, though.

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 12 Mar 2010, 19:23

So far, Holly Samos, for thinking that Jean Alesi is a world champion...

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 12 Mar 2010, 19:37

FloProAct wrote:So far, Holly Samos, for thinking that Jean Alesi is a world champion...

That was so bad, I felt sorry for Jean! Poor sod all those GPs and only the one win and she goes and says that! Ah if only...

Post by **mario** » 12 Mar 2010, 19:49

AndreaModa wrote:
FloProAct wrote:So far, Holly Samos, for thinking that Jean Alesi is a world champion...

That was so bad, I felt sorry for Jean! Poor sod all those GPs and only the one win and she goes and says that! Ah if only...

To be fair to him, he took it with good grace, all things considered.
Meanwhile, since the Captain doesn't want us to nominate the new teams, we are going to have to look further afield. Toro Rosso seem to have fallen back in FP2, whilst Red Bull are looking pretty fragile. Meanwhile, Reanult have slipped back, and Ferrari were surprisingly quiet.
Overall, though, the new track section does look like it'll be worth putting forwards; Webber was supposed to have audibly groaned when he saw it, and was pretty unimpressed, complaining that it was dull: "accellerate, brake, slow corner, accelerate, brake, slow corner, accelerate, brake, another slow corner" as he dismissively put it.

IntegratorTypeR · Post by **IntegratorTypeR** » 12 Mar 2010, 19:58

Jacques Villeneuve, on BBC Radio5 Live's race commentary team. I think he'll suck but be secretly relieved he isn't in the HRT.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 12 Mar 2010, 19:58

Again just so no-one comes down on anyone like a tonne of bricks

, I thought that this was NOT a guessing game/prediction thread. I thought this was a thread for nominating someone as Reject of the Race (and therefore giving Kuwashima and me some valuable suggestions for when we make our decision) for something they had already done. Just in case anyone's new to this type of thread.

Captain Hammer wrote:However, here is a special proviso for Bahrain only: Virgin, Hispania and Lotus are immune. You may not vote for any of the new teams or their drivers, even if they are eleven seconds off the pace. The reason why is because a) they've already made a gargantuan effort to get here and b) they were never going to be competitive. They deserve to be applauded, not branded as Rejects.

Right ... but at the same time wrong, Captain. We applaud because they are rejectful! And we love them for it!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Mar 2010, 20:07

I will do whatever the hell I like and nominate HRT.
Yeah, they were going to be slow anyway, but think about this...
Senna was a tenth faster than a GP2 car.
Considering the much lower power output of the GP2 Renault V8 compared to the F1 Cossie, it could easily have gone faster with the same engine.
The fact they created a car worse than one that was deliberately desinged to be slower than an F1 equivalent is rejectful in itself.
If it even finishes the race as a classified runner it will be the equivalent of winning the race to them.
They won't manage it though, it'll shear more parts than a Lancia Beta in the first 10 laps.

B Leinders · Post by **B Leinders** » 12 Mar 2010, 20:17

The track! Who tought it was a good idea to put a part of the Hungarian track in it. Big yawn...
Chandock and Senna schould be ruled out from rejectdom this race. Really, driving the HRT (or being involved with) is bravery.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Mar 2010, 22:07

I don't buy the immunity. If they've done something monumentally stupid, they deserve to get the ROTR. But it would take something monumental, such as not having a big enough fuel tank, or sending a driver out to the race with the tires on the wrong ends of the car, or something truly rejectful. It's all about perspective.

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 12 Mar 2010, 22:55

JeanDenisAlcatraz wrote:Jenson Button.

I like the guy, but he'll get immediately taken down a peg or two by Lewis.

Despite the fact that there's almost nothing to separate them? Sure, Hamilton might have set a faster lap time in the sessions, but when you look at al[ of their laps, they're pretty close.

Phoenix wrote:I'll try my luck with Vitaly Petrov...

Well, your luck runs out. How is finding two seconds from one practice session to the next Rehectful

noisebox wrote:You don't need to tell us how to think.

No, I don't need to. But this year I'm toying with actually couting up the votes after the race, and I'll just dis-count any votes for the new teams on the basis of their lap times. I don't think it's fair to deride them as Rejects simply because the're slow even though they've put in twice the effort of the 2009 teams.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Mar 2010, 23:53

Captain Hammer wrote:
noisebox wrote:You don't need to tell us how to think.

No, I don't need to. But this year I'm toying with actually couting up the votes after the race, and I'll just dis-count any votes for the new teams on the basis of their lap times. I don't think it's fair to deride them as Rejects simply because the're slow even though they've put in twice the effort of the 2009 teams.

... but I stand by my claim that if there is true rejectdom around, they shouldn't be given a break. I mean, do you think that Andrea Moda was rejectful on the first race weekend? You're damn straight they were. Let's use historical precedents here.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Mar 2010, 23:55

Red Bull is below par, and reliability issues are emerging again, as they did last year.

Virgin is getting throughly beaten by Lotus.

What the heck happened to Barrichello in FP2? (to be honest, Hulkenberg shot a set of sift tyres to post that time, might have contributed to the difference)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Mar 2010, 02:39

I'm gonna say stuff the no new teams voting rule and throw Bruno Senna's name in the ring for the reason Mario posted on another thread:

mario wrote:...Equally, Bruno Senna was annoying a few drivers there - he held Button up badly, was swerving in front of Vettel and cut him up quite badly, and was so slow at one point that Kobayashi had to swerve off the track to avoid crashing into the back of him...

TeamTipper · Post by **TeamTipper** » 13 Mar 2010, 04:11

The new part of the Bahrain track. Boring and slow. Why did they do it in the first place? 6 extra cars? wow!

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 13 Mar 2010, 04:33

My friend Josh's nickname for the new part of the Bahrain circuit, which I cannot repeat on the forum because it is not polite for a family friendly site like F1Rejects.com, but it is a short version of the name Richard.

In all seriousness, ROTR will be everyone who underrated Force India and Vitaly Petrov.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 13 Mar 2010, 04:56

TeamTipper wrote:The new part of the Bahrain track. Boring and slow. Why did they do it in the first place? 6 extra cars? wow!

It may be boring and slow, but it should screw with the balance of cars, a la Interlagos. I think that's the intention. Either that or inducing nausea on behalf of drivers and viewers.

(Keep in mind that I haven't seen this section of track yet.)

Sullivangate · Post by **Sullivangate** » 13 Mar 2010, 05:19

The FIA: For choosing four new teams. Three of which are ridiculously off the pace, one which never bothered to show up at all, and considering another team which is as unprofessional as an oil company.

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 13 Mar 2010, 07:17

Sullivangate wrote:The FIA: For choosing four new teams. Three of which are ridiculously off the pace, one which never bothered to show up at all, and considering another team which is as unprofessional as an oil company.

All of the new teams were going to be off the pace, regardless of who it was that got chosen. It's the natureof the beast considering they have no data to work with in building a car from scratch.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 13 Mar 2010, 08:35

Captain Hammer wrote:But this year I'm toying with actually couting up the votes after the race, and I'll just dis-count any votes for the new teams on the basis of their lap times. I don't think it's fair to deride them as Rejects simply because the're slow even though they've put in twice the effort of the 2009 teams.

Of course, in the interests of integrity, independence, impartiality and fairness, Kuwashima and I won't be taking a populist approach in ultimately deciding who really gets ROTR! :lol: