Predicament Predictions - 2010 Australian Grand Prix

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Mar 2010, 05:07

Round 2 and the Formula 1 circus rolls on to the Great Southern Land for the QANTAS Australian Grand Prix. This round introduces a new concept to the predicament predictions championship as well as the hotly debated double points option. Anyways to the business at hand:
Wizzie's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Rosberg
4. Massa
5. Webber
6. Kubica
7. Hamilton
8. Schumacher
9. Button
10. Kobayashi

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Alonso
First Retirement: Sutil
ROTR: Sutil (For throwing away a top 10 start by binning it on lap 1 :lol:

)
IIDOTR: Kubica (That Renault doesn't deserve to be there)
DBTMOTR: De La Rosa (Eliminated in Q1 and generally the slowest out of the top 9 teams all weekend)
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Kobayashi
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus
Not using double points for this round

Double points works like this:
Each Participant in this championship has 1 double points round per season which they can use from this round onwards (I didn't elaborate on this in round 1 because it would have confused alot of people becasue the DBTMOTR explanation was enough to digest as it is). I wouldn't recommend using double points if you submit your predictions late for that round as not only does it double any points you get but it also doubles any penalty you get (i.e instead of losing 10 points for a late submission you lose 20 points). It's entirely up to the participant when they want to use it and they can change their mind at any time until the deadline for that round when that is locked in.

I only split the 2 Minor League Premiership predictions because it's alot easier to predict the best newbie team than the best newbie driver. A new driver is anyone who's participating in their First full season of Formula 1(Therefore Kobayashi and Alguersuari can be picked as well)

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 23 Mar 2010, 05:36

1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. Vettel
4. Hamilton
5. Schumacher
6. Button
7. Webber
8. Rosberg
9. Sutil
10. Kubica

Pole: Alonso
Fastest lap: Vettel
First retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Sauber (no form)
IIDOTR: Senna, for finishing the race
DBTMOTR: Petrov
MLPD: Kobayashi
MLPT: Lotus

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 23 Mar 2010, 08:02

MinardiFan95's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Massa
5. Hamilton
6. Rosberg
7. Button
8. Kubica
9. Barrichello
10. Buemi

Pole: Alonso
Fastest Lap: Webber
First Retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Schumacher
IIDOTR: Buemi
DBTMOTR: De La Rosa
Minor League: (Driver) Algersuari, (Team) Lotus

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 23 Mar 2010, 08:07

1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Hamilton
4. Rosberg
5. Button
6. Schumacher
7. Massa
8. Petrov
9. The Incredible Hulk(enberg)
10. Kubica

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest Lap: Rosberg
First retirement: Webber for the turn 1 fail.
ROTR: Someone in the back who forgets to brake in a turn 1 fail caused by Massa driving like a tool. ROTR will be flying in the air Ralf Schumacher style.
IIDOTR: Petrov, storms through the field again whereas...
DBTMOTR: Kubica just stays in and around he qualified...

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 23 Mar 2010, 08:56

Carlos' Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Rosberg
4. Vettel
5. Massa
6. Schumacher
7. Webber
8. Button
9. Kubica
10. Sutil

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Webber
First Retirement: Trulli
ROTR: Sauber (slower than the Toro Rossos...)
IIDOTR: Glock (That Virgin, to quote Branson, goes all the way)
DBTMOTR: Petrov (1.7 sec adrift of Kubica again)
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Alguersuari
Minor League Premiership (Team): Virgin
Not using double points for this round

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 23 Mar 2010, 09:18

1. Massa
2. Rosberg
3. Hamilton
4. Vettel
5. Webber
6. Schumacher
7. Liuzzi
8. Sutil
9. Button
10. Barrichello

Pole: Massa
Fastest lap: Hamilton
First retirement: Senna
ROTR: Toro Rosso
IIDOTR: Liuzzi
DBTMOTR: Hulkenberg
MLPD: Kobayashi
MLPT: Virgin

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 23 Mar 2010, 09:19

RAK's Predictions:

1) Alonso
2) Vettel
3) Massa
4) Hamilton
5) Schumacher
6) Webber
7) Rosberg
8) Kubica
9) Sutil
10) Button

Pole: Alonso
Fastest Lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Alguersuari (struggling to keep above the three new teams)
IIDOTR: Petrov (dragging the Renault kicking and screaming almost into the top 10)
DBTMOTR: Alguersuari
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Vitaly Petrov
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus Racing
Not using double points.

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 23 Mar 2010, 09:21

I get the feeling Carlos that you didn't mean to quote your post. I would also argue that De La Rosa isn't in his first full season but ..... anyway.

Tealy's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Massa
4. Hamilton
5. Webber
6. Rosberg
7. Button
8. Schumacher
9. Sutil
10. Kubica

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Alonso
First Retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Schumacher
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Petrov
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus
Not using double points for this round

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 23 Mar 2010, 09:30

2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Massa
5. Webber
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Sutil
9. Button
10. Kubica

Pole: Alonso
Fastest lap: Hamilton
First Retirement: Chandhok (again)
ROTR: Button
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: De la Rosa
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Senna
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 23 Mar 2010, 10:22

Tealy wrote:I get the feeling Carlos that you didn't mean to quote your post. I would also argue that De La Rosa isn't in his first full season but ..... anyway.

And you are, of course, absolutely right. That is what happens when I do too many things at the same time. Thanks!

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 23 Mar 2010, 11:44

1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Massa
5. Hamilton
6. Schumacher
7. Rosberg
8. Kubica
9. Button
10. Sutil

Pole: Alonso
Fastest Lap: Alonso
First Retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Sauber
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Alguesuari
MLPD: Hulkenberg
MLPT: Lotus

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Mar 2010, 11:50

2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Button
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Rosberg
7. Webber
8. Schumacher
9. Sutil
10. Barrichello

Pole: Massa
Fastest lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: safety car-related incident (not necesarily safety car itself)
IIDOTR: Bruno Senna
DBTMOTR: Vitaly Petrov
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus
DOUBLE POINTS - get it over and done with...

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 23 Mar 2010, 12:46

2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Massa
3. Hamilton
4. Alonso
5. Webber
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Sutil
9. Kobayashi
10. Hülkenberg

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Alonso
First Retirement: di Grassi
ROTR: Legard
IIDOTR: Kobayashi
DBTMOTR: Senna
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Hülkenberg
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Mar 2010, 13:39

Watka's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Massa
4. Webber
5. Hamilton
6. Rosberg
7. Button
8. Schumacher
9. Kubica
10. Barrichello

Pole: Alonso
Fastest lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Di Grassi
ROTR: Everyone who complained after Bahrain that 2010 would be boring
IIDOTR: Petrov
DBTMOTR: Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Petrov
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus
Not using double points for this round

Post by **mario** » 23 Mar 2010, 15:30

Although I didn't throw my hat into the ring last time around, this time I might have a go at it (although wait and see this backfire spectacularly).

2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Massa
4. Webber
5. Hamilton
6. Rosberg
7. Button
8. Schumacher
9. Kubica
10. Sutil

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Alonso
First Retirement: Kobayashi (an over eager attempt to make up ground at the start will probably end in tears and a DNF).
ROTR: Jaime Alguersuari (I expect that he will probably fail to get out of Q3 again, and that he will be beaten by Buemi as a result).
IIDOTR: Kubica (will probably drag the Renault into the top 10, although I can see Petrov having a decent weekend as well).
DBTMOTR: Hulkenberg (I expect that he might push too hard again and overcook it - and this time around, the barriers are much closer, so it could well end in a DNF).
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Petrov (assuming that mechanical problems do not strike again (see the suspension failing at Bahrein), I expect that he could well finish just outside of the top 10).
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus (simply through reliability - I am worried that the other two teams could well fail to make it to the finish again).
Not using double points for this round

Ross Prawn · Post by **Ross Prawn** » 23 Mar 2010, 17:16

2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Webber
2. Alonso
3. Vettell
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Button
7. Schumacher
8. Rosberg
9. Kubica
10. Barrichelo

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Chandouk
ROTR: Sutil
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Trulli
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Mar 2010, 19:37

Phoenix's jinxed predictions for the 2010 Australian GP:
1-Vettel
2-Alonso
3-Massa
4-Hamilton
5-Rosberg
6-Barrichello (!!!)
7-Kubica
8-Hulkenberg
9-Buemi
10-Petrov
Pole: Vettel.
Fastest lap: Massa
First retirement: di Grassi
ROTR: Schumacher
IIDOTR: Trulli
DBTMOTR: Kobayashi (sorry)
Minor League Premiership (driver): Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership (team): Lotus

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Mar 2010, 19:45

Klon's predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Webber
2. Alonso
3. Massa
4. Rosberg
5. Schumacher
6. Hamilton
7. Sutil
8. Barrichello
9. Button
10. Kubica

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Webber
First Retirement: Vettel
ROTR: Vettel (completely idioticly ruining another podium finish in first corner crash)
IIDOTR: Webber
DBTMOTR: Liuzzi
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Trulli
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 23 Mar 2010, 21:05

I'm going to put my nuts on the line here and suggest that there may be a big wreck at the first corner, Involving half of the frontrunners, leaving a few shocks behind it. Culminating in Webber's first win on home soil, and a smile on the face of Australia.

1. Webber
2. Massa
3. Rosberg
4. Button
5. Hamilton
6. Petrov
7. Kubica
8. Barrichello
9. Glock
10. Trulli

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Hamilton
First Retirement: Schumacher
ROTR: Schumacher
IIDOTR: Hamilton recovering from first corner pile-up started by Schumacher
DBTMOTR: Kubica
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Glock
Minor League Premiership (Team): Virgin

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 23 Mar 2010, 21:11

1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Massa
4. Hamilton
5. Kubica
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Button
9. Sutil
10. Petrov

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Glock
ROTR: Sauber
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Trulli
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Mar 2010, 22:43

ADx_Wales wrote:I'm going to put my nuts on the line here and suggest that there may be a big wreck at the first corner, Involving half of the frontrunners, leaving a few shocks behind it. Culminating in Webber's first win on home soil, and a smile on the face of Australia.

So your not planning on having any children in the future then?

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 24 Mar 2010, 00:11

Mark Webber will be involved in the first turn pileup -- he has in the past two years!

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 24 Mar 2010, 05:21

1st - Sebastial Vettel
2nd - Jenson Button
3rd - Felipe Massa
4th - Lewis Hamilton
5th - Michael Schumacher
6th - Nico Rosberg
7th - Fernando Alonso
8th - Robert Kubica
9th - Vitaly Petrov
10th - Adrian Suitl

Pole - Felipe Massa
Fastest Lap - Lewis Hamilton
First Retirement - Mark Webber, Pedro de la Rosa, Sebastien Buemi and Nico Hulkenberg in first-lap multi-car pile-up
Reject of the Race - the Australian commentators (for over-hyping Webber and assuring the Australian public of his certain victory)
Infinite Improbability - Vitaly Petrov
Deadbeatism - Vitantonio Liuzzi
Drivers' Minor League Premiership - Vitaly Petrov
Teams' Minor League Premiership - Virgin Racing

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Mar 2010, 10:05

Cynon wrote:Mark Webber will be involved in the first turn pileup -- he has in the past two years!

Third time lucky perhaps?

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 24 Mar 2010, 10:13

dr-baker wrote:
Cynon wrote:Mark Webber will be involved in the first turn pileup -- he has in the past two years!

Third time lucky perhaps?

We're talking abour MARK WEBBER here. The new Chris Amon, remember? :mrgreen:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Mar 2010, 10:20

CarlosFerreira wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Cynon wrote:Mark Webber will be involved in the first turn pileup -- he has in the past two years!

Third time lucky perhaps?

We're talking abour MARK WEBBER here. The new Chris Amon, remember?

Nurburgring last year? Or did I imagine that? And another victory later in the year as well? I.e. Not as unlucky as Mr Amon...

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 24 Mar 2010, 15:29

DonTirri's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Rosberg
4. Hamilton
5. Schumacher
6. Massa
7. Webber
8. Button
9. Kubica
10. Sutil

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Alonso
First Retirement: Chandok
ROTR: Button, for not being even on the same page of the lap charts with his teammate
IIDOTR: Lotus for managing to make a fight for the points (I know, im dreaming but whatever)
DBTMOTR: Button, for making Hamilton look like the greatest driver ever in comparison
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Petrov
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus
Not using double points for this round

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 24 Mar 2010, 15:35

1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Schumacher
6. Rosberg
7. Massa
8. Kubica
9. Barrichello
10. Button
Pole: Vettel
Fastest Lap: Webber
First Retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Hamilton
IIDOTR: Kubica
MLPD: Petrov
MLPT: Lotus

Post by **mario** » 24 Mar 2010, 15:54

dr-baker wrote:
Cynon wrote:Mark Webber will be involved in the first turn pileup -- he has in the past two years!

Third time lucky perhaps?

Much as I would like to see Mark Webber win the Australian GP (simply because the party that the Mark Webber's Supporters Club would throw would probably be one of the biggest parties that the Southern Hemisphere would ever see), I would be astounded if he actually won it.
After all, Webber does always try his best at his home GP (who could forget the famous 5th place he chalked up for Minardi?) - but, in the year when he potentially has a fast enough car to win, he has to deal with a resurgent Ferrari (where both drivers will be in the hunt) and a team mate who is going to be giving it everything to close the points gap back up to Alonso as quickly as possible. And that is before his fabled bad luck comes into play...
If it is anything like Bahrein, then qualifying will prove to be critical - and this is where I can see Webber falling down. If he pushes too hard - like he did at Bahrein - then he could well push the tyres too hard and overcook it somewhere. Equally, Vettel is very confident and strong in qualifying - so it'll be a battle to get ahead of him. Finally, Alonso and Massa are going to be going at it as well - Alonso will want to try and control this race from the front, and Massa will be keen to get ahead of Alonso and give himself a platform for launching his own campaign for the title. We can't discount the fact that Mercedes or Mclaren (and Hamilton in particular) might spring a surprise in qualifying (although I think that this is less likely - as Mercedes admit, the W01 still has problems with the weight distribution, and a lack of front end grip, whilst Hamilton admitted that the MP4-25 lacks rear end grip in the slower to medium speed corners).

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 24 Mar 2010, 17:34

1. Vettel
2. Massa
3. Hamilton
4. Alonso
5. Webber
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Barrichello
9. Sutil
10. Liuzzi

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Webber
First retirement: Chandhok
ROTR: Button
IIDOTR: Force India
DBTMOTR: Petrov
MLPD: Hulkenberg
MLPT: Lotus

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 24 Mar 2010, 17:54

dr-baker wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Third time lucky perhaps?

We're talking abour MARK WEBBER here. The new Chris Amon, remember?

Nurburgring last year? Or did I imagine that? And another victory later in the year as well? I.e. Not as unlucky as Mr Amon...

I know, mate. I was being unfunny - but do refer to mario's excellent post on the matter, I sign up to what's there.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 25 Mar 2010, 08:37

1. Webber
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Alonso
5. Massa
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Button
9. Sutil
10. Petrov
Pole: Vettel
FL: Alguersuari
1st Ret: Hülkenberg
ROTR: Button
IIDOTR: Petrov
DBTMOTR: de la Rosa
MLPD: Petrov
MLPT: Lotus

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 25 Mar 2010, 09:36

New candidate Reject of the Race: CarlosFerreira, for backing Nico Hulkenberg in the Avatar Challenge and being forced to carry a humiliating picture in support of Windsor and Anderson for one month.

(No, this is not a serious suggestion. I'm still officially backing the Australian commentators for Reject of the Race.)

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 25 Mar 2010, 10:11

Captain Hammer wrote:New candidate Reject of the Race: CarlosFerreira, for backing Nico Hulkenberg in the Avatar Challenge and being forced to carry a humiliating picture in support of Windsor and Anderson for one month.

(No, this is not a serious suggestion. I'm still officially backing the Australian commentators for Reject of the Race.)

Hahaha!

I so hope he does not pull another tank slapper in Melbourne, it was fun to see him take it beyond the track in Bahrain, but now I have some reputation on the line here.

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 26 Mar 2010, 03:08

Valrys's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Webber
2. Hamilton
3. Alonso
4. Vettel
5. Button
6. Rosberg
7. Sutil
8. Kubica
9. Schumacher
10. Hulkenburg

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Webber
First Retirement: Di Grassi
ROTR: Sauber
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Petrov - not for being crap, but purely a victim of the competitive midfield

Sullivangate · Post by **Sullivangate** » 26 Mar 2010, 05:09

Sullivangate's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Rosberg
4. Massa
5. Hamlton
6. Button
7. Webber
8. Sutil
9. Liuzzi
10. Kubica

Pole: Massa
Fastest lap: Alonso
First Retirement: Chandok
ROTR: Virgin Racing
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Petrov
MLPD: Senna
MLPT: Lotus

thalion · Post by **thalion** » 26 Mar 2010, 05:53

Thalion's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Webber
2. Alonso
3. Vettel
4. Massa
5. Rosberg
6. Button
7. Schumacher
8. Sutil
9. Kubica
10. Hulkenberg

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Hamilton
First Retirement: de la Rosa
ROTR: Sauber
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Liuzzi
MLPD: Kovalainen
MLPT: Hispania

Ben Gilbert · Post by **Ben Gilbert** » 26 Mar 2010, 10:08

Ben Gilbert's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Alonso
2. Webber
3. Vettel
4. Massa
5. Hamilton
6. Kubica
7. Rosberg
8. Sutil
9. Petrov
10. Schumacher

Pole: Massa
Fastest lap: Webber
First Retirement: Glock
ROTR: Virgin
IIDOTR: Renault
DBTMOTR: Button
MLPD: Kobayashi
MLPT: Lotus

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 26 Mar 2010, 10:52

And for your lateness you get a 10 point penalty Ben.
Anyways points settings have been finalised and Dr Baker is the only person using double points this round.

razta · Post by **razta** » 26 Mar 2010, 10:58

Razta's Predictions
2010 Australian Grand Prix:
1. Schumacher
2. Vettel
3. Rosberg
4. Alonso
5. Webber
6. Massa
7. Hamilton
8. Kubica
9. Button
10. Petrov

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Rosberg
First Retirement: Glock
ROTR: Virgin
IIDOTR: Kubica
DBTMOTR: Massa
Minor League Premiership (Driver): Kovi
Minor League Premiership (Team): Lotus
Not using double points for this round