Things you miss about F1...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 Jul 2011, 21:07

Dropped scores - is this the answer to today's super-reliability and risk-aversion? The 1950s had best 4 from 8 results, or best 5 from 9. So now, we would best 10 from 19 (pro rata). Although this might mean that Vettel would get a near-perfect score this year, it would not matter if you extract a bit more reliability from the car, because if you blow up, you simply reign it in a bit for the next race and know that it would go towards a dropped score. Equally, if you're Lewis Hamilton, you might not worry quite so much from a grid penalty, if it does not lead to one of your best 10 results of the year.

I bet someone can see a flaw in this somewhere...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Jul 2011, 12:16

dr-baker wrote:Dropped scores - is this the answer to today's super-reliability and risk-aversion? The 1950s had best 4 from 8 results, or best 5 from 9. So now, we would best 10 from 19 (pro rata). Although this might mean that Vettel would get a near-perfect score this year, it would not matter if you extract a bit more reliability from the car, because if you blow up, you simply reign it in a bit for the next race and know that it would go towards a dropped score. Equally, if you're Lewis Hamilton, you might not worry quite so much from a grid penalty, if it does not lead to one of your best 10 results of the year.

I bet someone can see a flaw in this somewhere...

Heeere! Teams wouldn't go with a risky approach, they would try to seal the title as soon as they could with their super reliable cars and by not throwing points away. Especially in a year like this that would merely lead to everyone doing their stuff until Hungary and then we would see an artificial entertainment program. Although that might lead to most top teams using their test drivers which would be neat as well...
Forget my objections, let's do this.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 30 Jul 2011, 15:43

Cars actually breaking down.
Collisions.
Cars being parked at the side of the road.
Wet races being started under the normal procedure.
Williams being a frontrunning team.
Kimi Raikkonen.
Independent teams (Williams is the only one left).
James Hunt's commentary (although Brundle will always be a legend).

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 05 Aug 2011, 15:58

Whis wrote:
midgrid wrote:Parmalat as a sponsor.

the Parmalat that robbed money from thousands of italians?

The very same, but I thought it looked good on an F1 car.

I thought of another one - teams using different-coloured bodywork to distinguish their drivers. Watching qualifying for the 1997 Monaco Grand Prix, we have: Prost - Panis (blue cockpit surround), Nakano (yellow cockpit surround); Ferrari - Irvine (yellow flashes on front wing); Tyrrell - Salo (orange X-wings), Verstappen (yellow X-wings), and no doubt other examples as well. Now it's boringly homogenised with the red/yellow T-cams.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 05 Aug 2011, 16:02

When someone could have a number on their car without ranking. Tyrrell used 3, and 4. Williams used 5, and 6. Brabham used 7, and 8. Lotus used 11, and 12. Ligier used 25, and 26. Ferrari used 27, and 28. Why doesn't F1 allow that anymore?

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 06 Aug 2011, 15:27

DOSBoot wrote:When someone could have a number on their car without ranking. Tyrrell used 3, and 4. Williams used 5, and 6. Brabham used 7, and 8. Lotus used 11, and 12. Ligier used 25, and 26. Ferrari used 27, and 28. Why doesn't F1 allow that anymore?

That would work IMO:

Red Bull
1. S Vettel
2. M Webber

Mercedes
3. M Schumacher
4. N Rosberg

Williams
5. R Barrichello
6. P Maldonado

McLaren
7. L Hamilton
8. J Button

Lotus
11. H Kovalainen
12. J Trulli

Force India
14. R Barrichello
15. P Di Resta

Renault
19. N Heidfeld
20. V Petrov

Hispania
21. D Ricciardo
22. V Liuzzi

Toro Rosso
23. S Buemi
24. J Alguersuari

Ferrari
27. F Alonso
28. F Massa

Sauber
29. K Kobayashi
30. S Perez

Virgin
31. T Glock
32. J D'Ambrosio

HRT get 21 and 22 because they used to be supplied by Dallara who had 21 and 22
Virgin use 31 and 32 which Simtek used in 1994

Post by **mario** » 06 Aug 2011, 21:05

DOSBoot wrote:When someone could have a number on their car without ranking. Tyrrell used 3, and 4. Williams used 5, and 6. Brabham used 7, and 8. Lotus used 11, and 12. Ligier used 25, and 26. Ferrari used 27, and 28. Why doesn't F1 allow that anymore?

Was it not the case, though, that even in those days some of the teams would use different numbers? What numbers would McLaren use, for example - they've had 5 and 6, 7 and 8 and 11 and 12 on their cars at various points in their history. Brabham, too, originally had No. 5 and 6 when McLaren had 7 and 8, and only switched to those numbers later.

Also, Ferrari, although perhaps synonymous with 27 and 28 these days, have a strong link with 11 and 12 (Lauda bore No. 12 when he won his first title with Ferrari, for example) - I don't think that it was until the 1980's that Ferrari were allocated No. 27 and 28, as originally No. 27 was allocated to Ligier (they had 26 and 27), and for a while Williams also ran under the numbers of 27 and 28.

Besides, under that system, what numbers should Renault use? The historic numbers that Renault had were 15 and 16, but equally you could say that they should use No. 19 and 20 from the Benetton era (as the current team was formed from a direct buyout of Benetton), which in turn came from Toleman.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Aug 2011, 07:50

midgrid wrote:
Whis wrote:
midgrid wrote:Parmalat as a sponsor.

the Parmalat that robbed money from thousands of italians?

The very same, but I thought it looked good on an F1 car.

I thought of another one - teams using different-coloured bodywork to distinguish their drivers. Watching qualifying for the 1997 Monaco Grand Prix, we have: Prost - Panis (blue cockpit surround), Nakano (yellow cockpit surround); Ferrari - Irvine (yellow flashes on front wing); Tyrrell - Salo (orange X-wings), Verstappen (yellow X-wings), and no doubt other examples as well. Now it's boringly homogenised with the red/yellow T-cams.

Don't forget all the years where Sauber ran red and yellow wing mirrors to distinguish the drivers.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 07 Aug 2011, 08:52

I'd personally prefer Renault to have 15 and 16, and Force India to have 32 and 33, but then where would that leave Virgin?

Ligier never had #27 either, when they only had one car it was #26, then added #25 in 1979 when they started to run a 2nd car.

I'd say the numbers McLaren were most synonymous with when they didn't have 1 and 2, were actually 7 and 8.

Post by **mario** » 07 Aug 2011, 09:38

James1978 wrote:I'd personally prefer Renault to have 15 and 16, and Force India to have 32 and 33, but then where would that leave Virgin?

Ligier never had #27 either, when they only had one car it was #26, then added #25 in 1979 when they started to run a 2nd car.

I'd say the numbers McLaren were most synonymous with when they didn't have 1 and 2, were actually 7 and 8.

Jarier raced for Ligier on a one off basis in 1977 at the Japanese Grand Prix (his race lasted for just three laps before his engine failed), and for that race he was allocated No. 27:

You're right, though, that from 1979 onwards, when they raced two cars on a regular basis, that Ligier were then allocated 25 and 26.

As for Virgin Racing, well, on principal I guess that they'd have to be allocated new numbers as they do not have any link with a historic team, and the same case could be made for HRT too.

RainierSassetti · Post by **RainierSassetti** » 07 Aug 2011, 22:02

mario wrote:Jarier raced for Ligier on a one off basis in 1977 at the Japanese Grand Prix (his race lasted for just three laps before his engine failed), and for that race he was allocated No. 27:

You're right, though, that from 1979 onwards, when they raced two cars on a regular basis, that Ligier were then allocated 25 and 26.

As for Virgin Racing, well, on principal I guess that they'd have to be allocated new numbers as they do not have any link with a historic team, and the same case could be made for HRT too.

I endorse team numbers more than one driver-one number. Less confusion about the numbers that change every year would be awesome, kinda like the TV numbers on sport jerseys. I dont wanna spend 10 minutes wondering "Dude, what is that car number?".

Vepe · Post by **Vepe** » 08 Aug 2011, 00:02

To continue this car number system thingy, I did this:

1996

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
Tyrell: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
McLaren: 7,8
Footwork: 9,10
Jordan: 14,15
Forti: 21,22
Minardi: 23,24
Ligier: 25,26
Benetton: 27,28
Sauber: 29,30

1997

Code: Select all

Arrows: 1,2
Tyrell: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
McLaren: 7,8
Ferrari: 9,10
Jordan: 14,15
Minardi: 16,17
Prost: 18,19
Benetton: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Stewart: 25,26
Lola: 27,28

1998

Code: Select all

Williams: 1,2
Tyrell: 3,4
Arrows: 5,6
McLaren: 7,8
Ferrari: 9,10
Jordan: 11,12
Minardi: 14,15
Prost: 18,19
Benetton: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Stewart: 25,26

1999

Code: Select all

McLaren: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Arrows: 5,6
Williams: 7,8
Ferrari: 9,10
Jordan: 11,12
Minardi: 14,15
Prost: 18,19
Benetton: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Stewart: 25,26

2000

Code: Select all

McLaren: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Arrows: 5,6
Williams: 7,8
Ferrari: 9,10
Jordan: 11,12
Minardi: 14,15
Prost: 18,19
Benetton: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Jaguar: 25,26

2001

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Arrows: 5,6
Williams: 7,8
McLaren: 9,10
Jordan: 11,12
Minardi: 14,5
Prost: 18,19
Benetton: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Jaguar: 25,26

2002

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Arrows: 5,6
Williams: 7,8
McLaren: 9,10
Jordan: 11,12
Minardi: 14,15
Renault: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Jaguar: 25,26
Toyota: 27,28

2003

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Williams: 7,8
McLaren: 9,10
Jordan: 11,12
Minardi: 14,15
Renault: 20,21
Sauber: 22,23
Jaguar: 25,26
Toyota: 27,28

2004

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
McLaren: 7,8
Jordan: 9,10
Minardi: 11,12
Renault: 14,15
Sauber: 16,17
Jaguar: 18,19
Toyota: 20,21

2005

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
BAR: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
McLaren: 7,8
Jordan: 9,10
Minardi: 11,12
Renault: 14,15
Sauber: 16,17
Red Bull: 18,19
Toyota: 20,21

2006

Code: Select all

Renault: 1,2
Honda: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
McLaren: 7,8
Midland: 9,10
Toro Rosso: 11,12
Ferrari: 14,15
BMW Sauber: 16,17
Red Bull: 18,19
Toyota: 20,21
Super Aguri: 22,23

2007

Code: Select all

McLaren: 1,2
Honda: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
Renault: 7,8
Spyker: 9,10
Toro Rosso: 11,12
Ferrari: 14,15
BMW Sauber: 16,17
Red Bull: 18,19
Toyota: 20,21
Super Aguri: 22,23

2008

Code: Select all

Ferrari: 1,2
Honda: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
Renault: 7,8
Force India: 9,10
Toro Rosso: 11,12
McLaren: 14,15
BMW Sauber: 16,17
Red Bull: 18,19
Toyota: 20,21
Super Aguri: 22,23

2009

Code: Select all

McLaren: 1,2
Brawn: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
Renault: 7,8
Force India: 9,10
Toro Rosso: 11,12
Ferrari: 14,15
BMW Sauber: 16,17
Red Bull: 18,19
Toyota: 20,21

2010

Code: Select all

McLaren: 1,2
Mercedes: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
Renault: 7,8
Force India: 9,10
Toro Rosso: 11,12
Ferrari: 14,15
BMW Sauber: 16,17
Red Bull: 18,19
HRT: 20,21
Lotus: 22,23
Virgin: 25,26

2011

Code: Select all

Red Bull: 1,2
Mercedes: 3,4
Williams: 5,6
Renault: 7,8
Force India: 9,10
Toro Rosso: 11,12
Ferrari: 14,15
Sauber: 16,17
McLaren: 18,19
HRT: 20,21
Lotus: 22,23
Virgin: 25,26

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 08 Aug 2011, 11:15

RainierSassetti wrote:
mario wrote:Jarier raced for Ligier on a one off basis in 1977 at the Japanese Grand Prix (his race lasted for just three laps before his engine failed), and for that race he was allocated No. 27:

You're right, though, that from 1979 onwards, when they raced two cars on a regular basis, that Ligier were then allocated 25 and 26.

As for Virgin Racing, well, on principal I guess that they'd have to be allocated new numbers as they do not have any link with a historic team, and the same case could be made for HRT too.

I endorse team numbers more than one driver-one number. Less confusion about the numbers that change every year would be awesome, kinda like the TV numbers on sport jerseys. I dont wanna spend 10 minutes wondering "Dude, what is that car number?".

The other thing about that is on some cars you can't even see the numbers - I mean where are the numbers on this year's Force India cars? Same goes for the JPM/Ralf era Williamses, I'm sure there are others too.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 08 Aug 2011, 12:17

James1978 wrote:The other thing about that is on some cars you can't even see the numbers - I mean where are the numbers on this year's Force India cars? Same goes for the JPM/Ralf era Williamses, I'm sure there are others too.

I think on the front wing on the Walrus car. Thanks for giving me another thing I miss.

The Williams BMW combination.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 08 Aug 2011, 18:46

Klon wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Dropped scores - is this the answer to today's super-reliability and risk-aversion? The 1950s had best 4 from 8 results, or best 5 from 9. So now, we would best 10 from 19 (pro rata). Although this might mean that Vettel would get a near-perfect score this year, it would not matter if you extract a bit more reliability from the car, because if you blow up, you simply reign it in a bit for the next race and know that it would go towards a dropped score. Equally, if you're Lewis Hamilton, you might not worry quite so much from a grid penalty, if it does not lead to one of your best 10 results of the year.

I bet someone can see a flaw in this somewhere...

Heeere! Teams wouldn't go with a risky approach, they would try to seal the title as soon as they could with their super reliable cars and by not throwing points away. Especially in a year like this that would merely lead to everyone doing their stuff until Hungary and then we would see an artificial entertainment program. Although that might lead to most top teams using their test drivers which would be neat as well...
Forget my objections, let's do this.

Oh, your issue is simple to solve - let's do like in 1979 and 1980. If the season is going to have 20 races, we split the season in two halves, and the 7 best results from each half count for the championship. You know what, if there was a historical moment for F1 to have such scoring system, this is certainly now, not 20 or more years ago when dropped results were actually a rare occurence.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 09 Aug 2011, 01:03

Rebadged engines. It gave the illusion of many suppliers.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 09 Aug 2011, 22:44

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Rebadged engines. It gave the illusion of many suppliers.

Playlife FTW.

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 11 Aug 2011, 14:22

Phoenix wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Rebadged engines. It gave the illusion of many suppliers.

Playlife FTW.

ACER!!!!

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 11 Aug 2011, 14:24

Well I miss

Minardi
Drivers carrying flags when they win. (So many great images of this)
Murray Walker
Tyre Wars
Bahrain not being on the calender
Magny Cours
Williams domination
Taki Inoue making every weekend exciting
Takuma Sato
Any Japanese driver

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 02 Feb 2012, 21:49

DOSBoot wrote:The sparks that came out of back of the cars during the 1980's, and early 1990's. Sure, you still see it sometimes in Singapore, but it's nowhere near where it used to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Od1UX0JKV4

Sparks are one of the things I miss the most about F1...

It could seem a stupid thing, but I miss McLaren's Marlboro livery and number 27 on Ferrari too. :-)

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 02 Feb 2012, 21:57

A1 Ring

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 02 Feb 2012, 22:00

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
DOSBoot wrote:The sparks that came out of back of the cars during the 1980's, and early 1990's. Sure, you still see it sometimes in Singapore, but it's nowhere near where it used to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Od1UX0JKV4

Sparks are one of the things I miss the most about F1...

It could seem a stupid thing, but I miss McLaren's Marlboro livery and number 27 on Ferrari too.

I was too young to see these live but judging by the old races i've seen on youtube I agree with you

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 02 Feb 2012, 23:19

Adrian Sutil.

Seriously, I'm not expecting him to return for a year or two if he's lucky

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 03 Feb 2012, 13:07

I miss Rubens Barrichello.
And Alex Zanardi too.

Animalgril987 · Post by **Animalgril987** » 02 Jul 2022, 12:07

THE CHAIN.
Nuff said...

Animalgril987 · Post by **Animalgril987** » 02 Jul 2022, 12:24

What I would NOT miss:
Steve Jones ( sorry Steve, I'm sure you're nice enough, but not the right guy for F1)
Ad breaks ( sorry, "word from our sponsors" ( what, a 3 minute long single word?)). C4 are getting almost as bad as ITV were.
Shots, during quali or the race, of celebs/WAGS in the pits.
The new guy C4 have sashaying down the pit lane (Lawrence Barretto ). Doesn't he realise that he's the token gay, for "inclusivity"?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Jul 2022, 12:09

Animalgril987 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2022, 12:24 What I would NOT miss:
Ad breaks ( sorry, "word from our sponsors" ( what, a 3 minute long single word?)). C4 are getting almost as bad as ITV were.

That word had better be Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch or Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

But you know the longest word in the English language is actually smiles? Because there is a mile between the first and last letters!

Animalgril987 · Post by **Animalgril987** » 07 Jul 2022, 16:11

Supercallie whatsit is fictional, llanfair pg is Welsh, not English ( but then Mr Jones is Welsh...). The actual longest English word, that's not the name of a chemical compound, is floccinaucinihilipilification ( meaning to estimate something is worthless( much like this post

)). But I like smiles better!

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 12 Nov 2022, 15:35

BACK ON TOPIC, despite the absurdity of doing so on an 11-year-old thread that was only very recently revived...

...well, sort of back on topic, because this comes under the heading of "things I remember from the past but don't particularly miss": commentary being delivered down the phone. Only the other day I was reminded of this, and I have no idea why or how, but then I realised that we were about to go to Brazil for a race, and that's one that would have had phone-line-commentary when I first started watching F1 in 1990.

Likely as not, it wasn't about the distance, more about the wealth (or not) of the host country, and I've tried to unearth some evidence on The Red Site as to when the BBC's last race was with telephone-quality commentary. Australia was the furthest race away from Britain and the 1990 race had broadcast-quality commentary.

The most likely candidates for telephone-quality commentary were Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, Hungary and Portugal.

I was quite surprised to find that Mexico had broadcast-quality commentary in 1990 - I'd have staked a large amount on that one coming over the telephone and I'd have lost. Likewise, 1991 and 1992 also had broadcast-quality commentary before the race dropped off the calendar.

I was further surprised to find that Brazil had broadcast quality commentary in 1990 - at least on the BBC. Eurosport, on the other hand, still had to rely on the telephone in 1992.

Hungary was telephone quality in 1990 - no surprises there as it had only just kicked communism into touch. For 1991, all I could find was the BBC's season review but there's a clip of Hungary with broadcast quality commentary, and that continued for 1992, despite the very dodgy VHS (or maybe Beta?) recording.

South Africa's return to the F1 calendar brought telephone quality in 1992 and broadcast quality in 1993.

Portugal, always Western Europe's poor relation (maybe they spent everything they had colonising Brazil?) had telephone quality in 1990... when Brazil didn't! It was the same in 1991. Broadcast quality came to Estoril in 1992.

So, by my reckoning, South Africa 1992 was the last time the BBC had to rely on Murray and James giving us their words down the phone.

This is all just my memories, though. Go further back and there was plenty of telephone quality commentary - here's some from 1983, at Imola and Zandvoort, with broadcast-quality commentary from Österreichring. Maybe back then they just had to take what they were given, because I can't see any reason why the Netherlands would need to rely on the telephone and Austria didn't.

Har1MAS1415 · Post by **Har1MAS1415** » 15 Nov 2022, 21:40

Animalgril987 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 16:11 Supercallie whatsit is fictional, llanfair pg is Welsh, not English ( but then Mr Jones is Welsh...). The actual longest English word, that's not the name of a chemical compound, is floccinaucinihilipilification ( meaning to estimate something is worthless( much like this post )). But I like smiles better!

No it's not. This is - Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (A lung disease caused by the inhalation of silica or quartz dust.)

Har1MAS1415 · Post by **Har1MAS1415** » 15 Nov 2022, 21:41

Back on subject. 12 lap qualifying sessions spring to mind.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 16 Nov 2022, 07:27

Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 21:41 Back on subject. 12 lap qualifying sessions spring to mind.

I actually quite like the current system. 1 lap qualifying did not do it for me though.

With the current system, you get action and with some odd results like a Haas on pole. With a wet session under the 12 lap system, there was lots of time without any action at all, and certainly none on a Saturday if Saturday was wet and the Friday session was dry.

Har1MAS1415 · Post by **Har1MAS1415** » 16 Nov 2022, 09:06

dr-baker wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 07:27
Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 21:41 Back on subject. 12 lap qualifying sessions spring to mind.
I actually quite like the current system. 1 lap qualifying did not do it for me though.

With the current system, you get action and with some odd results like a Haas on pole. With a wet session under the 12 lap system, there was lots of time without any action at all, and certainly none on a Saturday if Saturday was wet and the Friday session was dry.

That was just the first thing that sprung to my mind. That's all. Not knocking the current system though. Who in their right mind would after Brazil?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 16 Nov 2022, 19:14

Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 09:06
dr-baker wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 07:27
Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 21:41 Back on subject. 12 lap qualifying sessions spring to mind.
I actually quite like the current system. 1 lap qualifying did not do it for me though.

With the current system, you get action and with some odd results like a Haas on pole. With a wet session under the 12 lap system, there was lots of time without any action at all, and certainly none on a Saturday if Saturday was wet and the Friday session was dry.
That was just the first thing that sprung to my mind. That's all. Not knocking the current system though. Who in their right mind would after Brazil?

Fair enough. I guess I just don't miss the old format as much.

Har1MAS1415 · Post by **Har1MAS1415** » 16 Nov 2022, 19:26

dr-baker wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 19:14
Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 09:06
dr-baker wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 07:27

I actually quite like the current system. 1 lap qualifying did not do it for me though.

With the current system, you get action and with some odd results like a Haas on pole. With a wet session under the 12 lap system, there was lots of time without any action at all, and certainly none on a Saturday if Saturday was wet and the Friday session was dry.
That was just the first thing that sprung to my mind. That's all. Not knocking the current system though. Who in their right mind would after Brazil?
Fair enough. I guess I just don't miss the old format as much.

I understand.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 May 2023, 09:35

I miss the days when the phrase "need to spice up the racing" wasn't used after every quiet-ish race. Are we really living in a world where the occasional dull race causes mass panic? The only answer is snipers. If after a few laps nothings really happening tell the sharpshooters to start firing, may be that'll keep the fans attention.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 03 May 2023, 11:13

I had an idea that they should stop the race halfway through and do a "half-time show" where they get some person who can't sing to lip-sync over a laptop and do some dances with lots of glitter and stuff, to help spice up The Show

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 May 2023, 19:34

Rob Dylan wrote: ↑03 May 2023, 11:13 I had an idea that they should stop the race halfway through and do a "half-time show" where they get some person who can't sing to lip-sync over a laptop and do some dances with lots of glitter and stuff, to help spice up The Show

Eddie Jordan was sadly the first person who came to mind when I read that. Him and his Buzzin Hornets band.

yannicksamlad · Post by **yannicksamlad** » 14 May 2023, 08:43

I'm beginning to miss whoever did worldfeed TV direction a few years ago. Recently spending too much time on 'whoosh' and fast panning shots of cars flat out through non-corners when there's overtaking happening elsewhere. And seems to avoid shots of cars under braking (despite being happy to watch them trundle in/out the pits to remain in 10 th place , presumably hoping for a reject pitstop, which they could have on replay of it actually happened).