Reject of the Race - Italy 2024

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1. Nico Hulkenberg. Destroyed his and Tsunoda's races in just a few laps.

2. Daniel Ricciardo. Retire old man.
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1) Magnussen - for reaching twelve driver points. That's right. BANNED!!!

2) FIA Stewards - for being toothless on the bollard at second chicane with F1, but penalising both F2 & F3
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Londoner wrote: 01 Sep 2024, 14:20 1. Nico Hulkenberg. Destroyed his and Tsunoda's races in just a few laps.

2. Daniel Ricciardo. Retire old man.
I think there are quite a few nominees here - Ricciardo didn't cover himself in glory, whilst Hulkenberg was too ambitious in trying to make up for lost ground and just cost himself even more in the process.

To some extent, McLaren have shot themselves in the foot too - in a race where Norris had a golden opportunity to take a chunk of points out of Verstappen's lead in the WDC and where they could have nudged ahead of Red Bull in the WCC, they failed to maximise either opportunity. It also didn't help that Russell arguably threw away a position to Verstappen too between the performance loss due to the wing damage and the longer pit stop to replace the nose (Russell finished less than 2 seconds behind Verstappen at the end of the race).
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Kevin Magnussen - Managed to actually get a race ban the year of our lord 2024.

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Agree with everyone else so far. Any one of them would work. But also, how rejectful might it be that Kevin scored a point and might be banned?

Agree also with Duck too.
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Row Man Gross-Gene wrote: 01 Sep 2024, 14:49 Agree with everyone else so far. Any one of them would work. But also, how rejectful might it be that Kevin scored a point and might be banned?

Agree also with Duck too.
That had passed me by initially, but you're right - Magnussen has finally managed to get enough points to be hit with the automatic ban. I guess Bearman is going to be having his debut at Haas sooner than he first thought...
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(1) Nico Rosberg for saying "he was in my karting team" during every conversation about Antonelli

(2) Nothing really
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Haas drivers: Hülkenberg spent most of the weekend crashing, while Magnussen had a much better race for the most part but ended up getting a ban. :facepalm:
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Surely ROTR goes to yer man on the STR pit crew who accidentally touched Ricciardo's front wing when he was pitting.
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1.Haas drivers. Both got penalties and Magnussen managed the feat of being banned for a race and getting 1 point. Brilliant all round

2. The pit member who touched Danny Rics car meaning that he got the extra penalty. Daft.
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Nomination must got to K-Mag for getting a race ban. His performance vis-a-vis Nico Hukenberg has been subpar at best, but this takes the cake. K-Mag won't ben in F1 in 2025 for good reason.

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It is simply

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VCARB - A DNF after 6 laps, then a penalty then a penalty for taking the penalty wrong, and at your (second) home race too!

McLaren - What in the actual bathplug was that? But hey at least your switched the cars around at the end right? Right?

One note about K-Mag, Gasley has said he's going to speak to the FIA about getting the ban rescinded as he called the penalty "a bit much". Who knows if it will work though.
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Wallio wrote: 02 Sep 2024, 15:26 VCARB - A DNF after 6 laps, then a penalty then a penalty for taking the penalty wrong, and at your (second) home race too!

McLaren - What in the actual bathplug was that? But hey at least your switched the cars around at the end right? Right?

One note about K-Mag, Gasley has said he's going to speak to the FIA about getting the ban rescinded as he called the penalty "a bit much". Who knows if it will work though.
I'm not sure that Gasly really can do anything about it.

The stewards in Monza did not call him to attend the investigation, so his testimony was not deemed necessary for that hearing, and I don't believe that there is a formal mechanism for the drivers to lobby the stewards after the decision was made. Meanwhile, whilst the Haas team could, in theory, file an appeal motion and cite Gasly's testimony as a factor, the stewards would probably say that Gasly's testimony is not significant new information and they are unlikely to re-open the case.

Additionally, that relies on Haas being interested in appealing in the first case, and Komatsu's comments after the race about Magnussen - that "he races aggressively and in some occasions the penalty he had, maybe he was too aggressive" - suggests that they're not interested in trying to appeal against the decision. Perhaps they felt that it was a manner of when, not if, he'd get a ban, and perhaps they feel it's not worth potentially annoying the FIA by trying to appeal against a decision that's unlikely to be changed for a driver that is leaving the team at the end of the season anyway.

I also suspect that the FIA is likely to reject any attempts to undermine the penalty because, if the decision can be reversed easily, then the penalty points system would lose it's deterrence effect.
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"Papaya Rules" or whatever they're called. Looks like massively backfiring on them.
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