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F1 world concerns over closed airports

While the F1 circus late on a Saturday night is usually fixated on the grid and looking ahead to the grand prix, this year in China many paddock regulars are just wondering how and when they might get home.

Because of the ongoing eruption of the Icelandic volcano and the plumes of ash across the continent, nearly all European airports are effectively closed.

It is said possible the situation could go on for several days at the least, with weather forecasting service Accuweather predicting little change until late next week.

“Expect ongoing interruptions for the next four or five days,” said a spokesman at the Icelandic meteorological office. “The eruption is still in full swing.”

A Qantas spokesman agreed: “At this stage it’s highly unlikely things are going to return to normal for several days at least.”

Reportedly in the 1800s, the same Icelandic volcano erupted for a whole month.

Indian rookie Karun Chandhok wrote on Twitter that the “whole paddock (is) worried” about the situation, even if the wealthier top-three grid occupants – who could afford to sit out the chaos in a five-star Shanghai hotel – did not sound worried after qualifying.

“You swim (home),” Fernando Alonso joked to Mark Webber.

Amid news the airlines are now starting to cancel scheduled flights from Shanghai on Monday, BBC reporter Sarah Holt said: “F1 is being somewhat overshadowed by worries about planes home”.


I thought on this thread we could come up with the most ridiculous, barmiest suggestions for air travel, or even discuss who should be made to never leave China and never be allowed to travel home again.
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What if the ash never goes? Will we just have 20 races at Shanghai every season?
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I think they should just organize a minibus driven by Chandhok stopping in front of every driver's house
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Oh, Coulthard, you better get yourself that train ticket very quickly or else...
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What's wrong getting a flight to somewhere like Istanbul or Moscow and getting rail transport over to Spain? Freight could (probably) cope with the containers full of kit, and the drivers, personnel, etc can sit with the rest of the paying public for once! :D

More fun would be to see the raft competition they used to do at Montreal (do they still do it?) put to practical use to get the guys back to Europe! They could offer championship points for the first teams to reach Spain as an incentive to make up for the lost time and missed races!
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I did like the BBC having Eddie Jordan on the phone on a crap line. What a hilarious waste of time.
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shinji wrote:I did like the BBC having Eddie Jordan on the phone on a crap line. What a hilarious waste of time.


Eddie doesn't need a crap phone line for that...........he is entertaining though. :)
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shinji wrote:I did like the BBC having Eddie Jordan on the phone on a crap line. What a hilarious waste of time.

Aye, as if the whole shebang is that dependant on us hearing his opinion.
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Jenson Button was the best, I can't find the clip but Ted Kravitz asked him about it and he basically said "well i'm not going back to europe after the race, so I don't care about you!"
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Flights, who need 'em?

Make the drivers run a giant road rally across Asia and Europe in the team transporters. It'll only take them a few days...

EDIT: Yeah, I checked. Vladivostock isn't too far from the Chinese border. Head that way and then take the trans-siberian highway. All those rich feckers milling about the paddock have no sense of adventure.
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shipment per... ship

sure a little slower, but gives the possibility of transporting everything at once
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They should just use those damned racing cars to race all the way to Paris in front of the FIA headquarters... and the drivers should get points like in a normal race
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Well, with the constant improvement in reliability, the drivers can drive their F1 cars all the way to Spain (except for Ferrari, they'll blow up at the Shanghai exit...) :D
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coops wrote:
shinji wrote:I did like the BBC having Eddie Jordan on the phone on a crap line. What a hilarious waste of time.

Aye, as if the whole shebang is that dependant on us hearing his opinion.


Coulthard must be pretty happy, since he's now halfway around the world from Eddie Jordan. It certainly is a somewhat calmer presenting line up this weekend, which isn't a bad thing for an early morning start.

But I can't see this presenting a major problem, seeing as the Spanish GP is three weeks after this one (allowing for the extra week that they give the teams). Even if flights are grounded for a month, they could still fly the equipment over to Turkey and ship the stuff across the Mediterranean, surely (and the drivers could also catch a ferry across from Turkey). After all, they send the equipment from Monaco to Turkey by container ships, so it is a feasible solution.
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But I really miss Eddie!
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lostpin wrote:Well, with the constant improvement in reliability, the drivers can drive their F1 cars all the way to Spain (except for Ferrari, they'll blow up at the Shanghai exit...) :D

no, the virgins don't have enough fuel :P
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I wonder what MPG an F1 car does if you drive it at 60mph in the highest gear you can? :idea: :?: :!:
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Enforcer wrote:I wonder what MPG an F1 car does if you drive it at 60mph in the highest gear you can? :idea: :?: :!:


Drop the wings to minimum drag, and it'll be much more efficient than a normal road-going car. That's one of the marvelous things about the sport: it's a lab on fuel efficiency.
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Why don't they just all fly into southern continental Europe and meet their haulers there?
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thehemogoblin wrote:Why don't they just all fly into southern continental Europe and meet their haulers there?

Because particles from the volcano are reaching Shangahi. It's not that they can't land in Europe, it's that they can't leave China.
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Captain Hammer wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:Why don't they just all fly into southern continental Europe and meet their haulers there?

Because particles from the volcano are reaching Shangahi. It's not that they can't land in Europe, it's that they can't leave China.


Conspiracy theory of the week: Those particles were already in China's air far before that volcano exploded.
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thehemogoblin wrote:Conspiracy theory of the week: Those particles were already in China's air far before that volcano exploded.

Conspiracy of the deacde: Flavio Briatore caused Eyjafjallajökull to blow up to get revenge for his ban.

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Captain Hammer wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:Conspiracy theory of the week: Those particles were already in China's air far before that volcano exploded.

Conspiracy of the deacde: Flavio Briatore caused Eyjafjallajökull to blow up to get revenge for his ban.


Conspiracy of the ... entire history, I guess: HWNSNBM caused the eruption, because he wants to race in F1 again but doesn't want to ask for it.
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Looks like things are not getting any better, since most flights out of Shanghai are being cancelled, and now quite a few people are booking tickets for the Trans-Siberian railway to get home. The most likely scenario is that the teams will end up going directly from China to Barcelona - although not all of the teams are pleased with that, because they wanted to bring new parts to Barcelona. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83000

One team who are going to be very worried are Virgin Racing - if flights are still being cancelled, then Wirth can't modify the cars in order to fit the new fuel tanks before Barcelona. So, we might see the traditional big upgrade package that the teams bring to Barcelona being pushed back until Turkey (since it is Monaco after Barcelona, which has it's own special package).
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its 3 week before the spanish grandprix... plenty of time to get there.....



i think...
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WeirdKerr wrote:its 3 week before the spanish grandprix... plenty of time to get there.....



i think...

Getting to Spain won't be the problem - the main issue is whether other teams will be able to bring new parts and personnel over from their bases (bear in mind that many are based in the UK, where the flight restrictions have been quite strict).
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mario wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:its 3 week before the spanish grandprix... plenty of time to get there.....



i think...

Getting to Spain won't be the problem - the main issue is whether other teams will be able to bring new parts and personnel over from their bases (bear in mind that many are based in the UK, where the flight restrictions have been quite strict).


Can't they bring those over on a train or boat, then?
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
mario wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:its 3 week before the spanish grandprix... plenty of time to get there.....



i think...

Getting to Spain won't be the problem - the main issue is whether other teams will be able to bring new parts and personnel over from their bases (bear in mind that many are based in the UK, where the flight restrictions have been quite strict).


Can't they bring those over on a train or boat, then?

The Portsmouth to Bilbao ferry is fully booked, Eurostar is turning away passengers who haven't prebooked, other ferry routes and Eurotunnel bound to be similar...
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Major European airlines have been test flying in the ash clouds today without major malfunctions. So that's good news!!

Kimi Räikkönen, who finished 5th in the Rally of Turkey today has stated to Finnish media that he will fly home to Switzerland in his private jet despite the Swiss air area being closed. What a man!! :lol:
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I find it ironic that the team run by the airline guru himself sounds to be the team who stands to suffer most due to this problem hahaha
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Benetton wrote:Major European airlines have been test flying in the ash clouds today without major malfunctions. So that's good news!!


The thing is, Volcanic ash is no laughing matter as far as Airplanes are concerned, they are right to keep planes grounded. Just watch this for reason why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrNuY2qXWhI
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Benetton wrote:Major European airlines have been test flying in the ash clouds today without major malfunctions. So that's good news!!


What do they define as major malfunctions? With my air safety, I'd rather not have any malfunction at all.
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LionZoo wrote:
Benetton wrote:Major European airlines have been test flying in the ash clouds today without major malfunctions. So that's good news!!


What do they define as major malfunctions? With my air safety, I'd rather not have any malfunction at all.


Basically anything that endangers the pilot's control of the aircraft and/or the safety of passengers.
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According to his twitter, Alguersuari decided to go via Beijing via New York via Madrid to Barcelona.
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Bleu wrote:According to his twitter, Alguersuari decided to go via Beijing via New York via Madrid to Barcelona.


He should get some Shake Shack in New York.
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LionZoo wrote:
Bleu wrote:According to his twitter, Alguersuari decided to go via Beijing via New York via Madrid to Barcelona.


He should get some Shake Shack in New York.


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USF1's plan was to turn up at Barcelona. If they were still around we could have faced the prospect of a USF1 1-2 :lol:
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At least the teams have an extra week in order to move around their stuff. For once, this extra wait for a GP could be a good thing!
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Benetton wrote:Major European airlines have been test flying in the ash clouds today without major malfunctions. So that's good news!!

Kimi Räikkönen, who finished 5th in the Rally of Turkey today has stated to Finnish media that he will fly home to Switzerland in his private jet despite the Swiss air area being closed. What a man!! :lol:


I thought that the airlines were looking for ways around the ash clouds instead of flying through them. However, it does seem that Bernie is not at all worried about the ash clouds - he is currently moving the equipment to the airports, and as long as the airport is open within the next week, he is confident that they can get to Barcelona without any disruption.
It also seems that some of the teams have simply taken affairs into their own hands and arranged their own flights - including Mclaren, Ferrari and Lotus, whilst others, like Red Bull, are planning on using things like the Trans-Siberian railway as a contingency plan. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83047

As for Kimi, the major problem in most instances has not been the closure of airspace, but where he can take off and land. After all, Spanish and Italian air space is technically still open, but there is little point in taking off when you can't land anywhere (although if the Swiss complained, all that Kimi would probably have to do is land on the Italian side of the border, where the airspace is still open, and drive across the border).
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DonTirri wrote:
Benetton wrote:Major European airlines have been test flying in the ash clouds today without major malfunctions. So that's good news!!


The thing is, Volcanic ash is no laughing matter as far as Airplanes are concerned, they are right to keep planes grounded. Just watch this for reason why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrNuY2qXWhI


There is a difference of flying close to the volcano, and flying in clear skies far away... You never hear about that they close anything in other parts of the world when a volcano erupt... Anyway, people make money from this hysteria as well, just like the swine flu.
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