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Lewis Hamilton has praised the role played by the FIA stewards during the first four races of this season, saying they are the best he has experienced in his Formula 1 career.

Hamilton has been criticised for some robust racing this season but has yet to be given more than a reprimand by the stewards.

Former drivers have been members of the stewarding panel since the beginning of the season.

Speaking at a press conference after taking part in a Vodafone promotion at the Kyalami circuit outside Johannesburg in South Africa on Tuesday, Hamilton said: "I think the FIA and their racing stewards this year, they've been the best that I've probably experienced in Formula 1.

"It's difficult (for the stewards) in Formula 1; we're all there to race, to have a good time; we're not to there to mess around.

"For sure we're all pushing the boundaries and rules are rules, but I think this year it's been a lot more fair and definitely more consistent and more racing has been (the result).

"Us drivers are now not afraid to have a real battle with someone, without the worry of risking a penalty and I think that's fantastic.

"(The stewards) are doing a fantastic job and I think that's what's also contributing to such great racing so far (this season)," Hamilton concluded.



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Boy, I really have a problem standing this guy. Don't get me wrong, he's fast but... Well, you know how much of a Schumacher lover am I. That's gives you the idea about how much does it count speed and honour codes in terms of having my admiration.

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Of course giving a bit of room is a good thing...as long as it's only a bit of room, not the whole house. Things like what happened between him and Vettel in the pitlane should be downright forbidden and severely punished.
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I'm beginning to think putting a driver in with the stewards could end up being one of those practices that sounds far better than it is in reality.
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thehemogoblin wrote:I'm beginning to think putting a driver in with the stewards could end up being one of those practices that sounds far better than it is in reality.


I think it's a good idea but perhaps not implemented properly. The driver should be there to be consulted on when it comes to marginal decisions. Blatent, over-aggressive behaviour should be punished without needing to ask the driver his opinion.

However I must say I am actually in favour of the new have-a-go F1 with regard to the stewards, its much better seeing the guys go at it rather than constant penalties for the smallest of infringements.
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Bernie's idea of Wacky Races is slowly (but surely) coming to life...
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I say give him full rein.

It will cost him wins through accidents and penalties (when they applied) but it makes for great entertainment.
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coops wrote:I say give him full rein.

It will cost him wins through accidents and penalties (when they applied) but it makes for great entertainment.


I'm with coops. Don't give a toss if the lad is a model citizen, but I do like my entertainment.
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Hm, perhaps Eddie Irvine was right when he said that F1 is a gladiatorial. In the end, it looks like it's all just entertainment...
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if it was any other driver i would love him driving like that, but it's just impossible for me to not dislike anything hamilton does

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thehemogoblin wrote:I'm beginning to think putting a driver in with the stewards could end up being one of those practices that sounds far better than it is in reality.

Most certainly. For one thing, guys like Wurz probably know a lot of the current drivers-not necessarily saying they're friends, but then again, the opposite could be even worse. For another thing, the drivers often have a "unique" interpretation of the rules-something that the rules say should be penalized might be something a lot of the drivers think is no big deal. For example, in the stewards reports there have been several documents relating to drivers speeding through yellow flags in practice and the stewards doing nothing about it-I think that might have a lot to do with the drivers on the panel, and F1 drivers' disregard of yellow flags is well-known.
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I don't think we can really speak about favoritism at this point. Drivers get away with various misdeeds all the time. It was Hamilton who was rather unlucky until now. I guess after "enjoying" the un-favoritism of the stewards in all the previous years, many people (including Hamilton himself) are surprised to see him treated with leniency on some occasions.
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To add a little balance to this discussion, it is worth noting that whilst Hamilton does push his luck quite frequently, he is not the only driver who has pulled some questionable moves.
For example, in the wake of the Malaysian GP, Kubica was asked what his opinion on the Hamilton-Petrov incident was. Naturally, he was critical of Hamilton, saying that his move was "a Formula Ford thing", but then went on to say:
Robert Kubica wrote:"I think there were too many moves during that race - not only from one driver. I don't think it was only one driver who did more than one move. It's important that you don't move when you are side by side."
Full article here http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82875
So, although Hamilton is the driver who has the most aggressive attitude on the track, it does seem that there are some drivers who are getting away with questionable moves because they aren't caught on camera (I guess that you could push you luck a bit more in the mid field because the cameras tend to focus mostly on the leaders).
Equally, Hamilton coupled that statement on the stewards with another statement where he said that he intends on backing off a bit on the confrontational style that he has, so although he may have been quite aggressive up until now, he may start to reign in those antics. Whether he does so is another matter...

As for the stewards, they are in a difficult position. Their primary role should be to ensure that the regulations that are set out by the FIA are observed by all parties for the safety and benefit of everybody. From that viewpoint, they should be strict with their rulings, which should act as both deterrent and punishment. It can certainly not be denied that Hamilton has been involved some moves which have crossed the boundaries of what is and is not acceptable.
What is more problematic are the moves which sit in that grey area between what is and what is not acceptable, where he might not technically be breaking the rules but is pushing the interpretation of what is and is not legal. From a regulatory view, you would probably want to take a harsh line to prevent people from abusing the regulations, since your overarching priority is going to be safety.

On the other hand, we can see that there is a competing commercial interest. The general consensus amongst fans is for more action on track, with drivers racing wheel to wheel (coming back to that gladiatorial element which others have alluded to), and controversy on the track means more publicity of the track in the sports pages and websites. After all, Bernie is revelling in the recent antics of Hamilton, saying that he has loved his recent performances on the track and thinks that the others should, to quote the man himself, "stop complaining and get on with the racing" http://www.f1technical.net/news/14683 The very fact that we are currently sitting here discussing this must be music to Bernie's ears, since we are ultimately helping him to drive the F1 press machine.

So, there is a conflicting pressure from FOM to be lenient on the drivers to encourage them to go for more aggressive and bolder passing manoeuvres. After all, Hamilton has currently racked up 32 overtaking manoeuvres in four races, and it is true that at times he has helped liven up what could otherwise have been dull races. Equally, the fact that he has been so eager to push on and pass people has helped Mclaren out - after all, they now lead the constructors championship thanks to the 1-2 they got at China - and there have been times when the team has been just as involved as the driver. To a certain extent, they are going to want Hamilton to keep on attacking, even if it doesn't win them any friends, because their ultimate goal is to win, and sorting out the arguments can always be done later.
And there is a bit of a vicious circle here - if one driver pushes the rules, and gets away with it, then sooner or later others will continue to push the rules in order to try and gain an advantage for themselves, which in turn tends to encourage drivers to bend the rules.
Remember Hungary in 2003 (I think)? The track owners added a tarmac run off area for the exit of Turn 1, and soon enough, some drivers chose to use it to widen the corner entry and take more speed through the corner. Whilst technically they were breaking the rules (which state that you must remain within the boundaries of the track), soon enough all of the drivers were doing it, even though the GPDA had originally told the drivers not to do so.

As a result, I would not dismiss the possibility that Hamilton (and others) will get involved in more trouble with the stewards - and equally, that the stewards may be pushed by Bernie to take a more lenient approach.
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I only disapprove the pit-lane row he had with Vettel, which was very dangerous. However, any other thing that involves emotion and overtaking without risking the others' safety is OK, in my opinion. I think what Hamilton and Petrov did in Malaysia wasn't dangerous at all. I think it was the natural reactions of a racing driver.
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Phoenix wrote:. I think what Hamilton and Petrov did in Malaysia wasn't dangerous at all.

On that subject I was looking at some F1 starts from the last ten years on Youtube. I understand that rules have changed since then but I couldnt believe how many starts featured M Schumacher veering left or right to cover a position. And Im talking from one side of the track to very nearly the pit-lane on one clip. I dont, however, recall any uproar about it.
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"We're all there ... to have a good time; we're not to there to mess around.

I'm confused, isn't messing around the whole point to have a good time?

Either that or more reason why people don't like him - no concept of Sassetting.
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Phoenix wrote:I only disapprove the pit-lane row he had with Vettel, which was very dangerous. However, any other thing that involves emotion and overtaking without risking the others' safety is OK, in my opinion. I think what Hamilton and Petrov did in Malaysia wasn't dangerous at all. I think it was the natural reactions of a racing driver.


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Collieafc wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I only disapprove the pit-lane row he had with Vettel, which was very dangerous. However, any other thing that involves emotion and overtaking without risking the others' safety is OK, in my opinion. I think what Hamilton and Petrov did in Malaysia wasn't dangerous at all. I think it was the natural reactions of a racing driver.


Seconded. This is Racing, not an economy drive


They both needed a word after the pit-lane drag race. It went well, but next time a journo, a mechanic or a photographer may get hit by an F1 car doing 60 mph on live TV. Hamilton staying with Vettel was stupid, Vettel's push was stupid as well. They bothe deserved a good telling-to, and the FIA may have done just so.

Personally, I am enjoying this new age of FIA low touch regulation. It's nice the new FIA boss is a former racer and not an overbearing barrister. Less shenanigans to talk about, more racing to discuss.
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coops wrote:
Phoenix wrote:. I think what Hamilton and Petrov did in Malaysia wasn't dangerous at all.

On that subject I was looking at some F1 starts from the last ten years on Youtube. I understand that rules have changed since then but I couldnt believe how many starts featured M Schumacher veering left or right to cover a position. And Im talking from one side of the track to very nearly the pit-lane on one clip. I dont, however, recall any uproar about it.


Then you must have been occupying a very different part of the internet than I was in those days--rants about the "Schumi chop" dominated far too many forum threads on boards that I fortunately no longer frequent.
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thalion wrote:Then you must have been occupying a very different part of the internet than I was in those days--rants about the "Schumi chop" dominated far too many forum threads on boards that I fortunately no longer frequent.

I can well imagine! What I meant was in the reporting of it in the non-online-media.
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