Rantbox

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 08 Sep 2010, 16:45

What a bunch of spineless arrogant mouth-loving bunch of clots the Ferrari International Assistance are.

Fudge them, Fudge them in their stupid F-Ducts.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 08 Sep 2010, 17:25

What a surprise, Ferrari Is Alwaysgonnawin don't hand out any further punishment.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 08 Sep 2010, 21:27

Jean Todt, you are bathplug fired.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 09 Sep 2010, 01:57

F1000X wrote:Jean Todt, you are bathplug fired.

Don't torture your bathplug.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 09 Sep 2010, 17:52

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86508

So, the FIA KNEW they were using team orders, but decided to not punish them because the rules were inconsistent, which means...

Fbathplug Indicisive Arsenals.

Does anyone at the FIA know how to grow a pair? Because thats what they should have done, otherwise this will happen, and WILL happen:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86509

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 09 Sep 2010, 18:16

I'm currently growing two pairs.

Of plants.

For a friend who's in Belgium.

Honest.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 09 Sep 2010, 23:27

If Williams whines about two teammates colliding with each other, then they can't be called "Hard nosed racers" anymore, and just "hard nose pansies".

watka · Post by **watka** » 11 Sep 2010, 11:38

Kamui Kobayashi is one of the least charismatic drivers I've ever seen.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 11 Sep 2010, 11:43

Monza is overrated as a circuit.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 11 Sep 2010, 11:55

CarlosFerreira wrote:Monza is overrated as a circuit.

It's not a bad circuit, it's given its status because of the Tifosi and the atmosphere. The racing isn't special.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 11 Sep 2010, 14:22

redbulljack14 wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:Monza is overrated as a circuit.

It's not a bad circuit, it's given its status because of the Tifosi and the atmosphere. The racing isn't special.

Fast, flowing circuits with heavy braking points can also be special :twisted:

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 11 Sep 2010, 17:04

CarlosFerreira wrote:Monza is overrated as a circuit.

Overrated in terms of the quality for spectators, but as a driver's circuit, it makes a change from the likes of the Hungaroring.

coops · Post by **coops** » 11 Sep 2010, 18:22

CarlosFerreira wrote:Monza is overrated as a circuit.

No it isnt.

Vassago · Post by **Vassago** » 11 Sep 2010, 18:47

Monza overrated? oh c'mon, surely it doesn't require too much driving skills with all those long straights but you can still lose a ton of time when you screw up in Lesmos or Ascari. And it's one of the last places where you can actually get beached in the gravel instead of running through these phoney tarmac run-offs.

The second best track in Italy is probably Enna Pergusa, F3000 races over there were epic back in the day

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 11 Sep 2010, 19:02

Monza IS overrated as a circuit!!!!

Once they got rid of the double chicane at the start and replaced it with something out of a japanese game show it became ridiculous.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 11 Sep 2010, 19:06

If you ignore the 2005 debacle, the visits to the Indy GP layout between 2000 and 2007 were a bit too gimmicky.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 11 Sep 2010, 19:08

Forecast for tomorrow's procession: clear skies, warm weather, perfect for napping.

coops · Post by **coops** » 11 Sep 2010, 19:35

ADx_Wales wrote:Monza IS overrated as a circuit!!!!

No it isnt.

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 12 Sep 2010, 00:31

Monza is not overrated as a circuit, but, strictly speaking, too dangerous for modern F1.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 12 Sep 2010, 02:14

P_Friesacher wrote:Monza is not overrated as a circuit, but, strictly speaking, too dangerous for modern F1.

Elaborate.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Sep 2010, 07:58

Cynon wrote:
P_Friesacher wrote:Monza is not overrated as a circuit, but, strictly speaking, too boring for modern F1.

Elaborate.

How's that?

Seriously, for the first time in ages Monza is going to produce a belter today and I am going to swallow my words. But the argument remains, Monza's present configuration and the cars' high equalisation tends to make for very boring racing beyond the first lap.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Sep 2010, 09:05

CarlosFerreira wrote:
Cynon wrote:
P_Friesacher wrote:Monza is not overrated as a circuit, but, strictly speaking, too boring for modern F1.

Elaborate.

How's that?

Seriously, for the first time in ages Monza is going to produce a belter today and I am going to swallow my words. But the argument remains, Monza's present configuration and the cars' high equalisation tends to make for very boring racing beyond the first lap.

Maybe if they took the first chicane and made it into a true right-hander and brought it back to the track in time for Curva Grande, it would help fix the passing issue.

Vassago · Post by **Vassago** » 12 Sep 2010, 09:18

Talking about Monza being too dangerous is somewhat jumping the gun, the two most serious accidents in recent years (I'm talking about the drivers getting injured not the spectacular nature of the crash itself) happened ay Hungaroring which is the second slowest circuit on the calendar (you might throw in Ralf's antics at Indianapolis). So the speed is not the deciding factor in the so-called dangerous nature of the track.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Sep 2010, 09:21

Vassago wrote:Talking about Monza being too dangerous is somewhat jumping the gun, the two most serious accidents in recent years (I'm talking about the drivers getting injured not the spectacular nature of the crash itself) happened ay Hungaroring which is the second slowest circuit on the calendar (you might throw in Ralf's antics at Indianapolis). So the speed is not the deciding factor in the so-called dangerous nature of the track.

I just remembered Jump Jet Kubica in Canada, 2007. To be fair, that wasn't caused by speed, but by wheel-to-wheel action.

To quote Jeremy, speed doesn't kill. Speed has never killed anybody! Suddenly becoming stationary - that's what gets you.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Sep 2010, 09:27

Vassago wrote:Talking about Monza being too dangerous is somewhat jumping the gun, the two most serious accidents in recent years (I'm talking about the drivers getting injured not the spectacular nature of the crash itself) happened ay Hungaroring which is the second slowest circuit on the calendar (you might throw in Ralf's antics at Indianapolis). So the speed is not the deciding factor in the so-called dangerous nature of the track.

Felipe Massa's incident had nothing to do with the track. That could have happened anywhere. It was the consummate fluke incident.

coops · Post by **coops** » 12 Sep 2010, 09:50

P_Friesacher wrote:Monza is not overrated as a circuit, but, strictly speaking, too dangerous for modern F1.

No it-oh.

Speaking personally Im quite forgiving to classic tracks that sometimes deliver not so classic races and I know that roughly translates to sentimentality. When Monaco, for example, gives me a processional race I still appreciate the fact that I watched a race where legends, giants and rejects have walked. I dislike the first chicane with a passion but otherwise watching a grand prix at Monza in the Autumn still feels like a privilege.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Sep 2010, 09:53

coops wrote:Speaking personally Im quite forgiving to classic tracks that sometimes deliver not so classic races and I know that roughly translates to sentimentality. When Monaco, for example, gives me a processional race I still appreciate the fact that I watched a race where legends, giants and rejects have walked. I dislike the first chicane with a passion but otherwise watching a grand prix at Monza in the Autumn still feels like a privilege.

I guess I can respect - and relate - to that.

Vassago · Post by **Vassago** » 12 Sep 2010, 10:29

thehemogoblin wrote:
Vassago wrote:Talking about Monza being too dangerous is somewhat jumping the gun, the two most serious accidents in recent years (I'm talking about the drivers getting injured not the spectacular nature of the crash itself) happened ay Hungaroring which is the second slowest circuit on the calendar (you might throw in Ralf's antics at Indianapolis). So the speed is not the deciding factor in the so-called dangerous nature of the track.

Felipe Massa's incident had nothing to do with the track. That could have happened anywhere. It was the consummate fluke incident.

That's also my point! I just wanted to underline the fact that calling Monza too dangerous is absolute shambles because a potential fatal or life-threatening accident could happen anywhere regardless of the average speed of the circuit.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Sep 2010, 10:32

Vassago wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
Vassago wrote:Talking about Monza being too dangerous is somewhat jumping the gun, the two most serious accidents in recent years (I'm talking about the drivers getting injured not the spectacular nature of the crash itself) happened ay Hungaroring which is the second slowest circuit on the calendar (you might throw in Ralf's antics at Indianapolis). So the speed is not the deciding factor in the so-called dangerous nature of the track.

Felipe Massa's incident had nothing to do with the track. That could have happened anywhere. It was the consummate fluke incident.

That's also my point! I just wanted to underline the fact that calling Monza too dangerous is absolute shambles because a potential fatal or life-threatening accident could happen anywhere regardless of the average speed of the circuit.

Obviously; but it's far more likely for something catastrophic to occur at Monza, where the speeds, and consequently the forces, are much higher.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Sep 2010, 11:44

thehemogoblin wrote:
Obviously; but it's far more likely for something catastrophic to occur at Monza, where the speeds, and consequently the forces, are much higher.

OK, then send them here, where they won't go too fast and high-speed dangerous crashes won't occur.

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 12 Sep 2010, 12:29

thehemogoblin wrote:Obviously; but it's far more likely for something catastrophic to occur at Monza, where the speeds, and consequently the forces, are much higher.

And you go down a rather narrow straight with a forest a few meters to both sides and a bridge almost exactly at the part of the straight where locking wheels would seem most likely if that were to occur.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Sep 2010, 13:37

Go home with Colin Kolles, Sakon Yamamoto! :twisted:

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Sep 2010, 13:48

As I said earlier: Monza is overrated.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 12 Sep 2010, 17:25

CarlosFerreira wrote:As I said earlier: Monza is overrated.

But it has banking that cameras can slowly pan over and atmosphere and tifosi and stuff.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 12 Sep 2010, 22:40

If Redbull doesn't win this championship, they'll be a laughing stock. If Webber doesn't, he'll never have a better shot.

FERRARI CANNOT WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP. ALONSO CANNOT WIN A THIRD TITLE.

Please Lewis or Mark, don't let Ferrari come out on top. Not after Hockenheim. Not after this movable-floor bending-wing shite. Not after years of watching Michael win endlessly and Fernando being a scumbag. Mark you've impressed me ever since you put your Jag on the front row in 2004. I can live McLaren losing if you can win it. Do it for Jamie and Enoch.

VETTEL: GET YOUR bathplug shite TOGETHER.

ADRIAN SUTIL: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GO TO A BETTER TEAM.

MASSA: Go to Williams, help revive them with Rubens.

FERRARI: GO bathplug YOURSELVES.

BRUNO: I'm sorry bro, you arn't your uncle, as much as I wish you were.

KUBICA: If you go to Ferrari, our friendship is over. Don't betray me like Raikonnen.

NICO: KEEP BEATING MICHAEL, I LOVE YOU MORE AND MORE EVERY RACE.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 13 Sep 2010, 08:08

The Rantbox is alive and well.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 13 Sep 2010, 13:40

F1000X wrote:If Redbull doesn't win this championship, they'll be a laughing stock. If Webber doesn't, he'll never have a better shot.

FERRARI CANNOT WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP. ALONSO CANNOT WIN A THIRD TITLE.

Please Lewis or Mark, don't let Ferrari come out on top. Not after Hockenheim. Not after this movable-floor bending-wing shite. Not after years of watching Michael win endlessly and Fernando being a scumbag. Mark you've impressed me ever since you put your Jag on the front row in 2004. I can live McLaren losing if you can win it. Do it for Jamie and Enoch.

VETTEL: GET YOUR bathplug shite TOGETHER.

ADRIAN SUTIL: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GO TO A BETTER TEAM.

MASSA: Go to Williams, help revive them with Rubens.

FERRARI: GO bathplug YOURSELVES.

BRUNO: I'm sorry bro, you arn't your uncle, as much as I wish you were.

KUBICA: If you go to Ferrari, our friendship is over. Don't betray me like Raikonnen.

NICO: KEEP BEATING MICHAEL, I LOVE YOU MORE AND MORE EVERY RACE.

Oh yeah? If they manage to beat Red Bull and McLaren, then they'll be deserving champions. Just because they justifiably used team orders you can't say they are a bunch of OY!. They only wanted to make sure they would win something, as Massa has lost too much ground. Please, think for yourself and don't let the media and other people think for you. This is a team sport, and ultimately the drivers championship is the result of team work. So stop swearing for something that's absolutely acceptable.
And Red Bull also had flexible wings if you remember. Having said that, Webber is also a deserving title contender.
And Massa and Barrichello reviving Williams? :lol:

you've made my day, thank you.
And leave that tribalism out of harm's way, please.
Oh, and Kubica doesn't give a toss about you, get used to that. He gives a toss about having a competitive car.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 13 Sep 2010, 13:49

Please refer to the 'box's first post for the rules:

Feeling bitter? Had a bad day? Fancy a rant?

How about climbing F1Rejects' own version of the Hyde Park's soapbox? A cathartic moment, where you get to shout out all the rubbish you would otherwise be inclined to keep to yourself, or at least soften.

Ground rules:

1. One liners are mandatory. If you want to write a long text, contact you local editor for publishing opportunities. Or a lawyer, in case it's your will.
2. Remember the "family website" principle. Sexist, racist and other -ist posts are discouraged, plus the Admins will kick your butt. Just sayin'.
3. Remember Godwin's Law at all times...
3.a. ... and do keep in mind our very own Hughes' Law as well.
4. The audience doesn't get to answer back, only cheer or boo. If you fancy a debate, may I suggest wearing a towel and go re-enacting ancient Greece somewhere else?
5. Make us laugh. Please.

If arguments start and fall out of line, I'm locking this.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 13 Sep 2010, 13:56

CarlosFerreira wrote:Please refer to the 'box's first post for the rules:

Feeling bitter? Had a bad day? Fancy a rant?

How about climbing F1Rejects' own version of the Hyde Park's soapbox? A cathartic moment, where you get to shout out all the rubbish you would otherwise be inclined to keep to yourself, or at least soften.

Ground rules:

1. One liners are mandatory. If you want to write a long text, contact you local editor for publishing opportunities. Or a lawyer, in case it's your will.
2. Remember the "family website" principle. Sexist, racist and other -ist posts are discouraged, plus the Admins will kick your butt. Just sayin'.
3. Remember Godwin's Law at all times...
3.a. ... and do keep in mind our very own Hughes' Law as well.
4. The audience doesn't get to answer back, only cheer or boo. If you fancy a debate, may I suggest wearing a towel and go re-enacting ancient Greece somewhere else?
5. Make us laugh. Please.

If arguments start and fall out of line, I'm locking this.

Sorry men. I just disagreed profoundly with him. I thought using the word "tw*t" for a single time wouldn't be a problem. My apologies, it won't happen again, but that tribalism just got a bit on my nerves.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 13 Sep 2010, 14:00

Phoenix wrote:Sorry men. I just disagreed profoundly with him. I thought using the word "tw*t" for a single time wouldn't be a problem. My apologies, it won't happen again, but that tribalism just got a bit on my nerves.

Not a problem, but 2 things I need to mention:
- No arguing! Just rants.
- Proper language.

I would also prefer humourous takes on things.