thehemogoblin wrote:Holy crap is Jenson Button selling out with the high-downforce setup. It should be interesting to see how the rest of the field reacts to this in the future if it turns out to be a successful ploy.
My, everyone is going to go past Jenson, except for those 2 HRTs.
Now that would be an epic backfiring if a McLaren were to finish behind one of the new teams. Or anywhere outside the points.
thehemogoblin wrote:Holy crap is Jenson Button selling out with the high-downforce setup. It should be interesting to see how the rest of the field reacts to this in the future if it turns out to be a successful ploy.
My, everyone is going to go past Jenson, except for those 2 HRTs.
Now that would be an epic backfiring if a McLaren were to finish behind one of the new teams. Or anywhere outside the points.
Just imagine, Jenson tooling around for 60-odds laps, being passed by mifielders, backmarkers, GP2 cars, cyclists and keen joggers. All while keeping in front of those HRTs...
Sam Bird flying off to Yamamoto somehow to crush his head? (not decapitation but close to it. I wonder if someone will get the reference apart from eagleash).
Interesting news - when Horner was being questioned by Brundle, he revealed that Vettel has had to replace his steering rack before the race as "a precautionary measure". I wonder if that might have contributed to his problems in qualifying yesterday?
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
If that was a team order, then obviously nothing can get done about it . Other than Dietrich Moneybags coughing up a small fraction of the daily profit of his wonder juice.
"The worst part of my body that hurt in the fire was my balls" Gerhard Berger on Imola 1989
I think McLaren made a huge mistake in not just keeping Button out and waiting for Ferrari to blink first, in a game of tyre-chicken - they'd have been pitting with Vettel, I suspect!
Great drive from Alonso though, he really stood up in his seat, as they say. What a position it leaves the championship in too - five drivers covered by more-or-less a win's worth of points. Can't wait for the final fly-aways!
Yamamoto letting front runners lap him by cutting Roggia really made my day Good race. Both Alonso and Button did a perfect race, and Massa was fast again. Hamilton did what Vettel was supposed to do, the Red Bulls were duly less competitive, and Kobayashi Kamui couldn't do anything
FInally Ferrari won again and on Monza it is very special. Massa good 3th i will be a happy man tomorrow on my work. Wearing with proud my ferrari outfit !
Got the tears still istanding in my eyes of joy <3
CarlosFerreira wrote:Soft tyres last the entire race. What a travesty.
I hope Pirelli will make tires whose performance differential actually matters and which will allow more strategy. Seriously, IMO they should just ban drivers from talking bad about tires so there would be less fear of negative PR.
You mean "good result". There was nothing good or interesting about that race.
I would say the exact opposite. I found Alonso's harrying of Button throughout the first two thirds of the race pretty gripping stuff, but was generally disappointed that Alonso got the win in the end.
You mean "good result". There was nothing good or interesting about that race.
I would say the exact opposite. I found Alonso's harrying of Button throughout the first two thirds of the race pretty gripping stuff, but was generally disappointed that Alonso got the win in the end.
I agree - up until Button's stop, we could see the gap between the two of them ebbing and flowing as each one improved slightly, although you knew that Alonso would eventually find a way past, as he did have the faster car overall. Still, Button did well to resist the pressure from Alonso for so many laps, whilst still putting in good lap times.
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
Alonso didn't win the race it was the Ferrari mechanics. If the pitstops had been equal Button would have won. None of Alonso's "wins" this year have been deserved - in Bahrain it was Vettel's problem, in Hockenheim it was team orders, and now this. He is the most overrated driver in F1. If he wins the title it will be a disgrace.
tc3j3r wrote:Alonso didn't win the race it was the Ferrari mechanics. If the pitstops had been equal Button would have won. None of Alonso's "wins" this year have been deserved - in Bahrain it was Vettel's problem, in Hockenheim it was team orders, and now this. He is the most overrated driver in F1. If he wins the title it will be a disgrace.
tc3j3r wrote:Alonso didn't win the race it was the Ferrari mechanics. If the pitstops had been equal Button would have won. None of Alonso's "wins" this year have been deserved - in Bahrain it was Vettel's problem, in Hockenheim it was team orders, and now this. He is the most overrated driver in F1. If he wins the title it will be a disgrace.
But Alonso had to put in the laps.
Laps? It was one lap and it wasn't enough on its own. He got ahead because his pitstop was faster, not because of the lap. If the pitstops had been equal Button would have one.
tc3j3r wrote:Alonso didn't win the race it was the Ferrari mechanics. If the pitstops had been equal Button would have won. None of Alonso's "wins" this year have been deserved - in Bahrain it was Vettel's problem, in Hockenheim it was team orders, and now this. He is the most overrated driver in F1. If he wins the title it will be a disgrace.
But Alonso had to put in the laps.
Laps? It was one lap and it wasn't enough on its own. He got ahead because his pitstop was faster, not because of the lap. If the pitstops had been equal Button would have one.
Plus all the other laps spent racing Button. It's a team effort.
Would you be saying the same thing if the situation had been reversed and Button had jumped Alonso in his pit stop?
(not decapitation but close to it. I wonder if someone will get the reference apart from eagleash).
. Other than Dietrich Moneybags coughing up a small fraction of the daily profit of his wonder juice.
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