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RAK · Post by **RAK** » 10 Oct 2010, 11:44

CarlosFerreira wrote:Kamui Cowboycrashi deserved the ROTR in Singapore.

Agreed. He's an inconsistent, if definitely talented driver.

coops · Post by **coops** » 10 Oct 2010, 12:08

Warren Hughes wrote:Nico Hulkenberg has done more than enough to justify his place in F1 this season. There, I said it.

Very true, and Rubens has shown he can still keep up with 'the kids' too. He will be the next driver to win for Williams, there I said that.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 10 Oct 2010, 14:48

I was actually cheering when Sutil's engine blew.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 10 Oct 2010, 16:40

redbulljack14 wrote:I was actually cheering when Sutil's engine blew.

You're dead to me.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 10 Oct 2010, 17:50

thehemogoblin wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:I was actually cheering when Sutil's engine blew.

You're dead to me.

Only because it helps Williams in their battle for 6th in the Constructors Standings. I am a fan of Adrian Sutil.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 10 Oct 2010, 21:51

How has Massa been at Ferrari for 5 years. Swap him with Glock.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 10 Oct 2010, 23:07

There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

RA107 · Post by **RA107** » 10 Oct 2010, 23:22

Massa keeps on going about who he does not want to be another Rubens Barrichello but Felipe isn't as good as Rubens.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 10 Oct 2010, 23:52

ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

sure there will, rubens will take williams back to the top! 8-)

he will win the championship in an epic battle against schumacher, michael, if it were ralf it wouldn't be epic but either absurd, and that brings me immediatly to the next point: we need more 'wtf' in formula 1!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 11 Oct 2010, 08:54

You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

coops · Post by **coops** » 11 Oct 2010, 09:19

ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

What, like not even in fifty, seventy five years time? Any Brazillians reading this should get cracking to produce off-spring and train them in the ways of the force. Sorry, not the force, racing. Just to prove ADx_Wales wrong. You could just as easily say there will never be another French WDC and being as Rubens very nearly won last year I think thats a bit extreme.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Oct 2010, 09:28

coops wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

What, like not even in fifty, seventy five years time? Any Brazillians reading this should get cracking to produce off-spring and train them in the ways of the force. Sorry, not the force, racing. Just to prove ADx_Wales wrong. You could just as easily say there will never be another French WDC and being as Rubens very nearly won last year I think thats a bit extreme.

Imagine someone in 1954 who said there would never be another Italian F1 Champion ever again.

Just more thinking out loud on my part...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 Oct 2010, 10:08

ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

Should this prove to be the case, I'll raise another controversal issue:
I don't care about the overrated Canadian, Rubens Barrichello may be the greatest driver to never win the World title.

coops · Post by **coops** » 11 Oct 2010, 10:16

Klon wrote:I don't care about the overrated Canadian, Rubens Barrichello may be the greatest driver to never win the World title.

Klon, its your good point so hows about you having the honour of starting what will probably be a long and hotly debated thread?

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 11 Oct 2010, 10:37

Klon wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

Should this prove to be the case, I'll raise another controversal issue:
I don't care about the overrated Canadian, Rubens Barrichello may be the greatest driver to never win the World title.

I'll throw in Sir Stirling Moss for starters ...

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 11 Oct 2010, 11:47

coops wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

What, like not even in fifty, seventy five years time? Any Brazillians reading this should get cracking to produce off-spring and train them in the ways of the force. Sorry, not the force, racing. Just to prove ADx_Wales wrong. You could just as easily say there will never be another French WDC and being as Rubens very nearly won last year I think thats a bit extreme.

You're assuming that F1 will last past 50 years the way F1's currently going?

coops · Post by **coops** » 11 Oct 2010, 12:15

ADx_Wales wrote:You're assuming that F1 will last past 50 years the way F1's currently going?

Absolutely. In may differ from todays F1 in the same way as todays F1 differs to the racing in the 50s but the lineage will still be there. Without getting too 'galaxy far, far away' about it its fascinating and exciting to imagine. To me anyway.

watka · Post by **watka** » 11 Oct 2010, 12:32

RA107 wrote:Massa keeps on going about who he does not want to be another Rubens Barrichello but Felipe isn't as good as Rubens.

I know it was only one season, but Massa has come closer to winning the title than Rubens has.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 11 Oct 2010, 16:32

Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

Has Nick Heidfeld ever actually won ROTR. I can't ever think of when he did.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 11 Oct 2010, 16:44

Wizzie wrote:
coops wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

What, like not even in fifty, seventy five years time? Any Brazillians reading this should get cracking to produce off-spring and train them in the ways of the force. Sorry, not the force, racing. Just to prove ADx_Wales wrong. You could just as easily say there will never be another French WDC and being as Rubens very nearly won last year I think thats a bit extreme.

Imagine someone in 1954 who said there would never be another Italian F1 Champion ever again.

^^ This

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 11 Oct 2010, 17:21

redbulljack14 wrote:
Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

Has Nick Heidfeld ever actually won ROTR. I can't ever think of when he did.

That's because Enoch never remembered him.

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 11 Oct 2010, 17:33

redbulljack14 wrote:
Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

Has Nick Heidfeld ever actually won ROTR. I can't ever think of when he did.

Well I'm not sure if he's a "true great", but anyway, Europe '06

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 11 Oct 2010, 19:56

Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

So Jenson must be truly great, being a twice-ROTY winner and WDC. ROTY is greater than a ROTR, isn't it?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 11 Oct 2010, 23:11

dr-baker wrote:
Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

So Jenson must be truly great, being a twice-ROTY winner and WDC. ROTY is greater than a ROTR, isn't it?

Define "greater."

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 12 Oct 2010, 18:51

thehemogoblin wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

So Jenson must be truly great, being a twice-ROTY winner and WDC. ROTY is greater than a ROTR, isn't it?

Define "greater."

"Greater" - Better; more worthy of respect.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 12 Oct 2010, 20:28

Bleu wrote:You can't be true great if you haven't received ROTR at least once. This is to refer every driver who has driven since the award has been in place.

What about Kubica? IIRC, he's never been given ROTR.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 12 Oct 2010, 20:30

@Salamander: He was part of the collective ROTR in Canada 2007

Regarding the "strange form" of the US circuit we should give it the Fan Nickname of Duff Beer Krusty Burger Buzz Cola Costington's Department Store Kwik-E-Mart Stupid Flanders Park (DBKBBCCDSKEMSFP).

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 12 Oct 2010, 20:34

Klon wrote:@Salamander: He was part of the collective ROTR in Canada 2007

Ah. Forgot about that.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 12 Oct 2010, 21:44

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Klon wrote:@Salamander: He was part of the collective ROTR in Canada 2007

Ah. Forgot about that.

I thought he wasnt part of that award either. I know Hamilton, Heidfeld and Wurz didnt get the award but Kubica didn't make a mistake either really did he.

Frentzen127 · Post by **Frentzen127** » 12 Oct 2010, 22:17

Nope, he was too busy writing off his car.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 13 Oct 2010, 19:17

Klon wrote:Regarding the "strange form" of the US circuit we should give it the Fan Nickname of Duff Beer Krusty Burger Buzz Cola Costington's Department Store Kwik-E-Mart Stupid Flanders Park (DBKBBCCDSKEMSFP).

Where's the like button? What? This isn't Facebook? D'oh!

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 14 Oct 2010, 17:06

Bernie always introduces himself with "Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name".

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 16 Oct 2010, 01:46

CarlosFerreira wrote:Bernie always introduces himself with "Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name".

I approve of the Rolling Stones referance

(It's probably my favourite Stones song of all time.)

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 17 Oct 2010, 12:04

Curse Virgin and McLaren - if it weren't for them each team in F1 would race under a different flag, a true world championship.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 17 Oct 2010, 13:36

Klon wrote:Curse Virgin and McLaren - if it weren't for them each team in F1 would race under a different flag, a true world championship.

Erm Williams too?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 17 Oct 2010, 13:46

AndreaModa wrote:
Klon wrote:Curse Virgin and McLaren - if it weren't for them each team in F1 would race under a different flag, a true world championship.

Erm Williams too?

Erm, Toro Rosso alongside either RedBull or Ferrari?

coops · Post by **coops** » 17 Oct 2010, 14:32

Klon wrote:each team in F1 would race under a different flag, a true world championship.

We've had that. It didnt live up to expectations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_Grand_Prix

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 17 Oct 2010, 14:37

coops wrote:
Klon wrote:each team in F1 would race under a different flag, a true world championship.

We've had that. It didnt live up to expectations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_Grand_Prix

It lived up to my expectations. Its problem is that it didn't meet the expectations of its investors (i.e. didn't make a profit quickly enough).

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 17 Oct 2010, 15:45

What spoilt that series was the "team" aspect, season 1 was won by France, or should I say DAMS who ran 4 nations cars (France, Switzerland, Mexico and Portugual), and their cars were always in the points, then the 2 cars per "Team" rule kicked in for the second season and it did not make much of a difference, Germany (Hulkenberg) and New Zeland finished 1st and 2nd in the second season, both run by David Sears team.

What then ruined it was the Ferrari afiliation. Expecting the 360 engine from the GT2 cars to be in each of the 2004 F1 lookalike, they ended up with the Road going 360 engine, which meant the car was SLOWER than the Lola-Zytek from the first 3 seasons.... that and the drivers were awful (Team GB, DAN CLARKE, I rest my case).

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 17 Oct 2010, 15:48

Wizzie wrote:
coops wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:There will never be a Brazilian F1 Champion ever again.

What, like not even in fifty, seventy five years time? Any Brazillians reading this should get cracking to produce off-spring and train them in the ways of the force. Sorry, not the force, racing. Just to prove ADx_Wales wrong. You could just as easily say there will never be another French WDC and being as Rubens very nearly won last year I think thats a bit extreme.

Imagine someone in 1954 who said there would never be another Italian F1 Champion ever again.

I think we can agree that there wont be another one of them either...