Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Jan 2011, 18:40

There are actually some more (when the dealers change, not all cars are always available). But since it would be stupid to have you wait until the right one pops up, you can take the Spider. I will add it to the list.

Post by **tommykl** » 01 Jan 2011, 18:42

dr-baker wrote:In GT PSP, the full range of Alfas are:

AR 147 GTA '02
AR 156 2.5 V6 24v '98
AR Spider 3.0i V6 24v '01
AR Giulia Sprint GTA '65
AR 155 2.5 v6 TI '93

And already in my garage is a 147 2.0 TWIN SPARK '02. Which should I use?

That's weird. I've got both eligible Alfa Romeos in the dealership. Maybe, if Klon won't let you use one of these, try going forward 1 day, see if they're there. If you're on the 2nd day the Alfas are there, they'll be back around 70 days later.

EDIT: well, Klon's just answered the question.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 01 Jan 2011, 19:09

I might join in the second championship.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 01 Jan 2011, 20:31

I had a feeling I might win that one. I was pretty surprised when I saw that Camaro sitting in the used late 90's lot for only 8500 credits. I think this one will be much closer - I'm pretty sure I can go faster than the time I'm submitting, but I can't for the life of me string together a better lap. It also helps that the track is much more difficult to nail than the High-Speed Ring.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jan 2011, 21:58

Tommykl, I am on day 151, so am fortuanate that they have just come round again, and the Alfa I already have, was the very first car I bought in the game. I am going to buy several of the Alfas, and use the Spider as Klon has permitted. I may try a couple of them and let Klon decide which model provides the fairest comparison. And I will come back and see if the 'correct' model is available a day later...

Post by **Nuppiz** » 01 Jan 2011, 22:21

Damn, I had a feeling that I had posted an excellent lap, but in the end, Salamander had better luck with the car (and drove well, of course).

I fear I'm not going to be that good with the Alfas, given the FF layout found in all of the cars listed. But I'll do my best!

I'm also supporting the idea of having different championships for each game, given the subtle differences in the handling of the cars between different games.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 01 Jan 2011, 22:43

Deep Forest? In an Alfa?

This is going to end badly...

Post by **Nuppiz** » 01 Jan 2011, 22:55

Well, that was a quick one. I adapted to the FF layout quickly, and reminded myself of the tricks I learned in the licence tests when I tried to reach Gold in all of them. After 7 or so laps it was quite clear to me that I couldn't get around the track any quicker than I already had, so I called it quits and sent Klon the results. Hopefully I wasn't too quick about it...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 01 Jan 2011, 22:55

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Deep Forest? In an Alfa? This is going to end badly...

You'll be lucky to manage half a lap before the car blows up and sets the entire forest on fire

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 02 Jan 2011, 00:11

I managed to do 5 laps before I realised I was never going to get anywhere near my time, especially when I started to do this:

I managed to not roll, thanks to the helpful wall...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 02 Jan 2011, 00:12

Would anybody mind if I take part in the series myself? Obviously since I would have an unfair advantage, my results would be disrupting the competition which is why I'd be running alongside you, not actually scoring points.

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 02 Jan 2011, 00:42

Klon wrote:Would anybody mind if I take part in the series myself? Obviously since I would have an unfair advantage, my results would be disrupting the competition which is why I'd be running alongside you, not actually scoring points.

I don't mind if you score points, I don't think its much of an advantage that the rest of us should worry about anyway. The more people the better really.

I'll give this round a go once I get one of the cars. If anyone finds one of these cars on GT5 can you let me know how you got it, I can't find any to buy at the moment.

Post by **tommykl** » 02 Jan 2011, 08:43

dr-baker wrote:Tommykl, I am on day 151, so am fortuanate that they have just come round again, and the Alfa I already have, was the very first car I bought in the game. I am going to buy several of the Alfas, and use the Spider as Klon has permitted. I may try a couple of them and let Klon decide which model provides the fairest comparison. And I will come back and see if the 'correct' model is available a day later...

That's a good plan. I started writing my post before Klon answered your question. Hence the edit.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 02 Jan 2011, 13:24

tommykl wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Tommykl, I am on day 151, so am fortuanate that they have just come round again, and the Alfa I already have, was the very first car I bought in the game. I am going to buy several of the Alfas, and use the Spider as Klon has permitted. I may try a couple of them and let Klon decide which model provides the fairest comparison. And I will come back and see if the 'correct' model is available a day later...

That's a good plan. I started writing my post before Klon answered your question. Hence the edit.

I am going to use the Spider as Klon suggested. I bought a couple of Alfas and no other models were available the following day so this will be the model I am going to attempt my time with.

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 02 Jan 2011, 23:28

In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 02 Jan 2011, 23:41

MinardiFan95 wrote:In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.

You know you are free to actually go to the dealer this time around, don't you?

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 03 Jan 2011, 00:10

Klon wrote:
MinardiFan95 wrote:In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.

You know you are free to actually go to the dealer this time around, don't you?

Yes, however the GT and the GTV are not available in the new car dealership.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Jan 2011, 01:23

MinardiFan95 wrote:
Klon wrote:
MinardiFan95 wrote:In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.

You know you are free to actually go to the dealer this time around, don't you?

Yes, however the GT and the GTV are not available in the new car dealership.

Oh, for HWNSNBM's sake. I'm starting to hate GT5. :mrgreen:

Well, then I will add the 147 GTA to the list later today.

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 03 Jan 2011, 09:16

Klon wrote:Oh, for HWNSNBM's sake. I'm starting to hate GT5.
Well, then I will add the 147 GTA to the list later today.

It's actually the 147 Twinspark thats available in the new car dealers.

To help you here's a car list. Premium cars can be bought at the new car dealership (so you can buy them at any time) and Standard cars can only be bought at the used car dealership (which means you have to wait until it is in stock - I've heard reports that it has taken some people up to 8 hours of entering and exiting races just to find the car they are looking for).

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 03 Jan 2011, 11:38

MinardiFan95 wrote:
Klon wrote:Oh, for HWNSNBM's sake. I'm starting to hate GT5.
Well, then I will add the 147 GTA to the list later today.

It's actually the 147 Twinspark thats available in the new car dealers.

To help you here's a car list. Premium cars can be bought at the new car dealership (so you can buy them at any time) and Standard cars can only be bought at the used car dealership (which means you have to wait until it is in stock - I've heard reports that it has taken some people up to 8 hours of entering and exiting races just to find the car they are looking for).

Yes. An update from my post above I have managed to pick up a used Alfa Romeo Spider just through random chance. I will give the challenge a go later today.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 03 Jan 2011, 11:39

Already done my time; Bought a new GT on GT4

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 03 Jan 2011, 14:29

Klon wrote:Would anybody mind if I take part in the series myself? Obviously since I would have an unfair advantage, my results would be disrupting the competition which is why I'd be running alongside you, not actually scoring points.

Do it this way - participate in the series, then disqualify yourself in the final standings

Right?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Jan 2011, 19:46

Results - "An Alfa Anniversary"
1.: Tommykl - n/a - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'25.988
2.: Klon - PSP - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'30.315
3.: BlindCaveSalamander - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1:32.592
4.: Nuppiz - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.152
5.: Pointrox - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.354
6.: Tealy - GT5 - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V - 1'35.840
7.: Dr-Baker - PSP - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24v '01 - 1'37.300
8.: Aerond - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.331
9.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.880
10.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - 147 TI 2.0 Twinspark '06 - 1'38.760
Bonus Point: MinardiFan95 for having a certain ... spark to him (tip for all the other drivers: your chance of getting the bonus point increases when you allow me to make puns)

Gran Turismo World Championship
1.: BlindCaveSalamander - 16 Points
2.: Tommykl - 13 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 13 Points
4.: Klon - 8 Points
5.: Tealy - 7 Points
6.: The Masked Lapwing - 6 Points
7.: MinardiFan95 - 6 Points
8.: Pointrox - 6 Points
9.: Dr-baker - 4 Points

Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy
1.: BlindCaveSalamander - 10 Points
2.: Nuppiz - 8 Points
3.: Pointrox - 6 Points
4.: Aerond - 5 Points
5.: The Masked Lapwing - 4 Points

Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy
1.: Klon - 10 Points
2.: Dr-Baker - 8 Points

Kazuki Nakajima Gran Turismo 5 Trophy
1.: Tealy - 10 Points
2.: MinardiFan95 - 8 Points.

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Well it almost seems like there is no need for a Gran Turismo 2 scenario, but I will post one just in case...

Scenario 1-2: "The GREEN Hell"/"The Peak Of Your Ability"

Track (GT2): Trial Mountain Circuit
Track (GT4): Nordschleife
Track (GTP): Nordschleife
Track (GT5): Nordschleife

Car To Use (GT2): Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak
Car To Use (GT4): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)
Car To Use (GTP): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)
Car To Use (GT5): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires/Oil Change
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires/Oil Change

Other conditions: The car must be purely green, so no stripes or anything alike (i.e. racing cars don't count as well). Apparentely GT5 allows you to repaint some cars. This option is not allowed.

Deadline: 8th January 2011, 00:15 CET

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Once you think your lap time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail.

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time:
Game Used:

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 04 Jan 2011, 19:48

Urgh, I was too late again. :oops:

And I'm cack at the Nurburgring.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Jan 2011, 20:03

Klon wrote:Results - "An Alfa Anniversary"
1.: Tommykl - n/a - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'25.988
2.: Klon - PSP - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'30.315
3.: BlindCaveSalamander - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1:32.592
4.: Nuppiz - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.152
5.: Pointrox - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.354
6.: Tealy - GT5 - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V - 1'35.840
7.: Dr-Baker - PSP - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24v '01 - 1'37.300
8.: Aerond - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.331
9.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.880
10.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - 147 TI 2.0 Twinspark '06 - 1'38.760
Bonus Point: MinardiFan95 for having a certain ... spark to him (tip for all the other drivers: your chance of getting the bonus point increases when you allow me to make puns)

M second-best lap would have put me 9th at best. Thank goodness for that one lap!

Post by **Nuppiz** » 04 Jan 2011, 20:08

Ok, I know that I'm not too good with Alfas or the Deep Forest, but 9 seconds? What the hell?

I guess it's hard to put in a good lap if you don't have anything to compare to (unlike in licence tests).

Nurby...oh dear, I'm going to be at the tail end I'm afraid.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 04 Jan 2011, 23:35

Klon wrote:Results - "An Alfa Anniversary"
9.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.880

I said it wasn't going to end well...

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 05 Jan 2011, 00:10

Excuse me but the time of tommy is impossible without racing tyres or some advanced tuning (like racing brakes, for example). I don´t want to disgust anybody; but it´s hard to believe.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 05 Jan 2011, 01:57

Aerond wrote:Excuse me but the time of tommy is impossible without racing tyres or some advanced tuning (like racing brakes, for example). I don´t want to disgust anybody; but it´s hard to believe.

I agree, I was throwing my Alfa through there like a ragdoll, but I can't see a way to make up a whole 7 seconds without further upgrading the car.

Post by **tommykl** » 05 Jan 2011, 10:21

I only used R3 racing tyres, as upgrades aren't available on the PSP (which I'm using, I forgot to add that in the e-mail). I also used Standard driving physics.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Jan 2011, 10:31

tommykl wrote:I only used R3 racing tyres, as upgrades aren't available on the PSP (which I'm using, I forgot to add that in the e-mail). I also used Standard driving physics.

You were genuinely 11.302 seconds faster than me? How on earth...??? Wasn't just the GT spec was it?

Post by **tommykl** » 05 Jan 2011, 10:51

If I had an unfair advantage, I didn't know about it. I saw the Alfa Romeo dealership, bought the car that seemed the quicker of the two that Klon made available, stuck on R3 racing tyres, drove 30 laps with the racing line and Standard physics, no assisted direction, and set a ridiculously quick laptime god knows how.

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 05 Jan 2011, 11:18

There are just two of us playing on GT5

This next challenge is going to be a real :evil:

, its a long track to master.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 05 Jan 2011, 15:16

tommykl wrote:I only used R3 racing tyres, as upgrades aren't available on the PSP (which I'm using, I forgot to add that in the e-mail). I also used Standard driving physics.

Perhaps it's the driving physics, then. Unless the only other option makes it easier.

Post by **tommykl** » 05 Jan 2011, 17:14

[lawyer mode]This is therefore a creative interpretation of the regulations. The game allows no performance upgrades whatsoever, and the PSP division regulations only mention the tyres. No rule mentions a limit on driving aids, which I am therefore entitled to use.[/lawyer mode]

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Jan 2011, 19:29

tommykl wrote:[lawyer mode]This is therefore a creative interpretation of the regulations. The game allows no performance upgrades whatsoever, and the PSP division regulations only mention the tyres. No rule mentions a limit on driving aids, which I am therefore entitled to use.[/lawyer mode]

I also use the PSP. I also used racing tyres. I too used driving aids. Is there really that much time difference between the two models and our drining abilities? Time will tell!

Post by **tommykl** » 06 Jan 2011, 07:22

If you buy a car and one of the available colours is green, can we use it? Or is it just when the car is shown green from the start?

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 06 Jan 2011, 07:27

tommykl wrote:If you buy a car and one of the available colours is green, can we use it? Or is it just when the car is shown green from the start?

I bought a brand new green TVR for this, so it had better be allowed!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 06 Jan 2011, 12:16

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
tommykl wrote:If you buy a car and one of the available colours is green, can we use it? Or is it just when the car is shown green from the start?

I bought a brand new green TVR for this, so it had better be allowed!

I too bought a brand new car which just so happened to come in green, and that is the car which I shall use!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 06 Jan 2011, 13:18

The only thing is the car needs is to be buyable in a shade of green.