"Flav doesn't know shite about F1"

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:29

Piquet Jr has just made himself immune from any further criticism...

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 01,00.html

And as one of the comments on this story says, close the door on your way out, Nelson!

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:34

Flav (it says wrote, but he said it, he didn't write it) wrote:I've always been fair with my drivers,"

Tell that to Brundle, Patrese, Lehto, Verstappen, Herbert, Wurz, Button, Trulli and Fisichella!

If Piquet wants to be in F1, then he has a weird way of showing it. He's pretty much guaranteed to be out now, and I can't see anyone else offering him a seat, not even one of the new teams next year. Unless Ferrari see him as an ideal short term replacement...?

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:36

shinji wrote:Unless Ferrari see as an ideal short term replacement...?

Now, I'd not thought about that...

MaxZero · Post by **MaxZero** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:37

"he's a man with no friends"

hahaha

He obviously knew he had nothing to lose with his words, i applaud it, much more interesting than going out quietly

JDOD · Post by **JDOD** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:48

Yeah, Nelson was obviously on the way out anyway. He'll have done himself no harm at all with that. Everyone thinks Flav is an awful manager of drivers within a team anyway. Therea are plenty of places on the grid next year for someone with a bit of experience.

Think of it this way, Frenzen struggled with the pressure he was put under at Williams, when he was in the more friendly "family" of Jordan he challenged for the championship!

Nin13 · Post by **Nin13** » 28 Jul 2009, 13:03

If it was any other driver then he would be kicked half way through 2008, but due to Piquet's name, his father's money and sponsorers; he has managed to survive!!

Jordan192 · Post by **Jordan192** » 28 Jul 2009, 13:30

To paraphrase the simpsons:

"Someone was bound to say it eventually, I just can't believe it was him!"

Post by **Nuppiz** » 28 Jul 2009, 13:39

Well, at least he said that straight to the media rather than tidying his words! That takes some guts. :lol:

jackanderton · Post by **jackanderton** » 28 Jul 2009, 13:43

Still confused about why F1 bosses are under the impression there is a conveyor belt of ready-made talent to replace these people with.

Piquet may have been a fairly poor driver but he didn't deserve the treatment he got. They should've taken the pressure off and given him this season to prove himself. Instead it's Briatore's 'carrot and 12 bore shotgun' approach to man management.

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 28 Jul 2009, 15:20

He's fired, right? You can't say your team's boss doesn't know anything about F1 and get away with it.

Ben Gilbert · Post by **Ben Gilbert** » 28 Jul 2009, 15:32

Henrique wrote:He's fired, right? You can't say your team's boss doesn't know anything about F1 and get away with it.

I'm sure he was already going, and wanted to make his, somewhat justifiable, point that he has been given a raw deal by his team, and go out with a bang.

It's strange that (for me at least), given his choice of vocablulary in the situation, this is the only time in his F1 career that he has seemed respectable and in the right.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 28 Jul 2009, 16:12

THere goes Piquet. I didn't think him of all people would say the truth, but its probably better that way.

Ridge Racer · Post by **Ridge Racer** » 28 Jul 2009, 16:35

I do admire him for speaking his mind and saying hie piece, Flav is one of those managers who in a different field would constantly find himself in court being sued by angry former employees.

His management style really is the "if my driver is not performing up to my ever varying standards I'll just put a shotgun to his head and a knife to his throat to make him preform", it's really no wounder that so many drivers who've worked for him come away from the experience hating him because he forces them into distinct roles within the team and the driver who gets the coveted "first" role is given all of the oppertunities while the other guy is often treated like a man who is forced into subservience and has an invisible ax just above his head that will come down on him at Flav's discretion.

Many Blue Flags · Post by **Many Blue Flags** » 28 Jul 2009, 18:13

The left picture on the third row says it all.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 28 Jul 2009, 19:09

I guess this means he's already fired, and he's making this comment about it now, even though he doesn't say it officially. We can expect an official announcement soon.

For his replacement, I would ask Flavio to please, please bring in a decent and experienced driver, like Bourdais or Sato, though I've a bad hunch that he'll pick Grosjean or di Grassi.

EDITED TO ADD: Though, if he has to pick a new driver, then it would be smart to pick one of Grosjean/di Grassi's main rivals in GP2, so they can win the title more easily.

Chilled Phill · Post by **Chilled Phill** » 28 Jul 2009, 23:37

Of course this man "who doesn't shite about Formula One" also happens to the man who brought Piquet Jr. into F1. :roll:

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 29 Jul 2009, 00:43

Chilled Phill wrote:Of course this man "who doesn't shite about Formula One" also happens to the man who brought Piquet Jr. into F1.

Very good point.

Also worth noting that Flav is the man who effectively sent Piquet Sr out of F1 by bringing one M. Schumacher into the Benetton team in 1991 at the expense of Roberto Moreno (likeable, not as fast as Piquet Sr, and therefore the perfect no. 2).

Don't expect to see Flav on the Piquet family Christmas card list.

JDOD · Post by **JDOD** » 29 Jul 2009, 10:33

Waris wrote:though I've a bad hunch that he'll pick Grosjean or di Grassi.

Yeah, Flavio will probably make a right mess of their careers too.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 29 Jul 2009, 11:36

Oh dear... If that is not the number 1 way to lose your job I do not know what is.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 29 Jul 2009, 13:22

@Many Blue Flags,

I really wish AutoHebdo would post the comics on their website. I used to buy AutoHebdo when I was still living in Portugal, but I can't find it in the UK. I've got all the comics between 1991 and 2002.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 29 Jul 2009, 15:02

Nelsinho is known for making ridiculous statements that sound like they were coming from the mouth of his father. Still, it was only a matter of time until the two characters in question, him and his team boss were to have a falling out, given their individual track records.

But what Renault needs now is an experienced driver, not another rookie.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 29 Jul 2009, 15:24

Yannick wrote:Nelsinho is known for making ridiculous statements that sound like they were coming from the mouth of his father. Still, it was only a matter of time until the two characters in question, him and his team boss were to have a falling out, given their individual track records.

But what Renault needs now is an experienced driver, not another rookie.

Bourdais ftw!!!

crazydude1992 · Post by **crazydude1992** » 29 Jul 2009, 16:48

No, Sato.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Jul 2009, 16:55

No, Ide

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 29 Jul 2009, 17:49

No, Lavaggi :lol:

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 29 Jul 2009, 17:59

No, Deletraz! :lol:

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Jul 2009, 18:00

Well there's no beating that.

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 29 Jul 2009, 18:18

shinji wrote:Well there's no beating that.

No, not even Nissany.

Many Blue Flags · Post by **Many Blue Flags** » 29 Jul 2009, 19:06

Faustus wrote:@Many Blue Flags,

I really wish AutoHebdo would post the comics on their website. I used to buy AutoHebdo when I was still living in Portugal, but I can't find it in the UK. I've got all the comics between 1991 and 2002.

I get the Fiszman comics off a forum on webring.fr. Everything from 2004 to present day. http://www.webringf1.com/forum-f1/dessi ... -t569.html

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 29 Jul 2009, 21:49

shinji wrote:Well there's no beating that.

Yes we can (Obama style)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxQnASfVCg

He's driven a Renault before, he's a ready-made replacement ...

minrdi · Post by **minrdi** » 29 Jul 2009, 22:37

Enoch, LMAO :lol:

I'd have thrown Sergey Zlobin into the mix as well, but he's not nearly at the same level as the other nominees!

ranig · Post by **ranig** » 30 Jul 2009, 12:19

Straight-line testing for Romain Grosjean

Well, I guess that's the end of the game for Piquet now... maybe a seat at Campos next year?

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 30 Jul 2009, 16:28

That's exactly how it started for Bourdais. Bye, Piquet.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 30 Jul 2009, 17:08

eytl wrote:
shinji wrote:Well there's no beating that.

Yes we can (Obama style)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxQnASfVCg

He's driven a Renault before, he's a ready-made replacement ...

I almost thought you were going to link to a video of Mohammed Bin Suleyman. :lol:

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 30 Jul 2009, 22:02

I was thinking Jamiroquai, who I think tested for Renualt once and acted like a tit on Top Gear. Grosjean isn't bad though, if his GP2 races are anything to go by there'll be plenty of spins and accidents with him. The first lap in Valencia/Spa could be chaotic with him around.

JDOD · Post by **JDOD** » 31 Jul 2009, 08:11

Grosjean is a bit wild isn't he? I think Nico is a better prospect. Not sure what I think of van der garde.

What about Senna (I know he won't be in the Renault) but does anyone know what he is up to these days? He surely must be knocking on lots of door at the moment.

FW08 · Post by **FW08** » 31 Jul 2009, 10:15

Jan Lammers.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 31 Jul 2009, 19:53

Looking at certain other ... comebacks, there can only be one:
Ralf Schumacher!

Or else - Takuma Sato. And no, I won't get tired of wanting him in F1. :mrgreen:

LionZoo · Post by **LionZoo** » 31 Jul 2009, 23:23

I'm still crossing my fingers for Taku's triumphant return to F1.

lostpin · Post by **lostpin** » 01 Aug 2009, 11:20

Well, perhaps Flav is not the favorite team manager out there, but he's been in f1 for about twenty years, and had success in making MS and Alonso world champions. Twice. And Piquet has barely been in f1 for two seasons and he already claims that he knows more about f1 than Flavio!! And poor results aside... If he gets fired, good ridance!