The HRT thread

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 09 Mar 2011, 18:35

Wizzie wrote:I should have put new in inverted commas but meh. Too late now.

Quotation marks?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 09 Mar 2011, 18:36

Captain Hammer wrote:I'm bracing myself for a heavily-biased article from Joe Saward about how Hispania have suddenly become World Championship contenders ... or, you know, I coul just not read his blog. That works for me, too.

Nah... You're way more enjoyable when you're a little bitter.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 09 Mar 2011, 18:49

Dammit HRT you're now boring as bathplug batshit after you avoided signing random pay drivers for the most annoying driver in F1 in the past 10 years.

Jordan192 · Post by **Jordan192** » 09 Mar 2011, 19:17

While on the surface of it, Liuzzi doesn't have any money to bring to HRT, he's either still under contract to Force India, and they're stumping up some cash for this, or he's got a nice little settlement from them and could be paying out of his own pocket.

It's just a thought. I don't have any beef against Liuzzi, but I really don't see HRT as being in a position where they could afford a driver who wasn't bringing in at least some money.

Post by **mario** » 09 Mar 2011, 21:14

DanielPT wrote:
mario wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:I'm bracing myself for a heavily-biased article from Joe Saward about how Hispania have suddenly become World Championship contenders ... or, you know, I coul just not read his blog. That works for me, too.

So far, he has actually not said that much about the Liuzzi - HRT deal, apart from the fact that a deal has been reached between the two parties, that Liuzzi will test the car again later this week and that Liuzzi will be attending a press conference tomorrow held by HRT. He then went on to quote Luizzi and Kolles's announcements from the HRT press release that went out today to announce the signing.
So, all in all, his report about the signing is considerably less pro-Liuzzi than you'd expect - and recently he has actually been talking less about Liuzzi.

He was berated in the commentaries each time he spoke of Liuzzi so he now takes it easy. Anyway, later this week, expect a post like "Intelligent HRT strategy" and another saying that "Force India management is hopeless".

Funny you should mention that, as Joe Saward has been waxing lyrical about the fact that Force India is embroiled in legal action yet again, although it seems that he may have a few justifiable points.

Force India have announced that they are suing Team Lotus' parent organisation 1Malaysia, Mike Gascoyne, and Aerolab over allegations that Aerolab might have transferred some design elements from the VJM02 and VJM03 cars onto the T127.
Now, Joe Saward has paraphrased Migeot, Aerolab's representative, who is claiming that Force India is trying to force Aerolab into an out of court settlement because it would be cheaper than settling their debts. Now, Force India have already lost a previous case against Aerolab, and owe them a fairly sizeable amount of money for unpaid fees and compensation for legal costs. However, it seems that Force India have not paid up - according to Autosport, Aerolab have already started legal proceedings to claim the money they are due. So, Joe has plausibly suggested that Force India are using their latest lawsuit as a delaying tactic to prevent Aerolab claiming their compensation until after this case has been resolved.

Perhaps the shakier ground is where he suggests that Force India might be targeting Gascoyne as revenge for poaching most of Force India's senior management in 2010. There might be some element of truth in the matter, though - Lotus managed to poach Force India's Design and Technical Director (Mark Smith), Chief Designer (Lewis Butler) and the Head of Aerodynamics (Marianne Hinson), all of whom are former colleagues of Gascoyne. Not all of Lotus's senior management are from Force India - there are several from other backgrounds, like Renault and Toyota - but there are still are a fair few from Force India.

And on top of that, several other lower ranking engineers are thought to have moved across from Force India to Lotus, again reputedly through a head hunting scheme organised by Gascoyne - so those left at Force India are likely to resent the way in which Gascoyne has poached most of their best engineers. It's also noticeable that Force India's performance did decline after those defections, which hurt the team quite badly, and cost them 5th in the WCC (and reputedly several million dollars worth of revenue from FOM).

So, I'm not necessarily agreeing with Saward's suggestion that Force India's decision to also sue Gascoyne might be for revenge, but he has potentially acted in a way which would make them angry enough to want revenge.

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 09 Mar 2011, 23:12

mario wrote:So far, he has actually not said that much about the Liuzzi - HRT deal, apart from the fact that a deal has been reached between the two parties, that Liuzzi will test the car again later this week and that Liuzzi will be attending a press conference tomorrow held by HRT. He then went on to quote Luizzi and Kolles's announcements from the HRT press release that went out today to announce the signing.

He's probably waiting until the car hits the circuit to see how good it is before he starts applauding them as brilliance incanrate.

mario wrote:So, all in all, his report about the signing is considerably less pro-Liuzzi than you'd expect - and recently he has actually been talking less about Liuzzi.

I think he may have been a little scared off by that article he ran attacking Force India for releasing Liuzzi and maintaining that Liuzzi had a legal right to the seat and that other drivers would rally to support him to prevent something similar happening to them. A lot of the responses - even from the dedicated followers of the blog - were overwhelmingly negative, criticising him for letting his support of Liuzzi leading him to compromise his judgement. So I suspect he'll avoid any overly-positive mention of Liuzzi for now, at least until the readers stop circling the wagons.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 10 Mar 2011, 10:19

HRT have a new sponsor: Panda Security... Let the jokes begin!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 10 Mar 2011, 10:22

Aerond wrote:HRT have a new sponsor: Panda Security... Let the jokes begin!

It could be worse, they could be sponsored by Panda Energy.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 10 Mar 2011, 10:48

Klon wrote:
Aerond wrote:HRT have a new sponsor: Panda Security... Let the jokes begin!

It could be worse, they could be sponsored by Panda Energy.

Theyre too busy throwing their money away tryint to make an impact! on the sports entertainment business by providing total nonstop action.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 10 Mar 2011, 12:01

DonTirri wrote:Theyre too busy throwing their money away tryint to make an impact! on the sports entertainment business by providing total nonstop action.

You were really Raw, simply shouting out my implication. :mrgreen:

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 10 Mar 2011, 15:17

Panda Security... That is the worst AV-program I've ever had!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 10 Mar 2011, 15:29

Myrvold wrote:Panda Security... That is the worst AV-program I've ever had!

A few years ago (Ok, about a decade

), Panda Security was considered has one of the best AV to execute after a MS-DOS start-up disk. Many technical support centers used this method. After that, I lost contact with those kind of methodologies so I don't know what they use, today, to scan a PC for viruses when the OS is so full of them that it cannot run anymore.

Mouthy316 · Post by **Mouthy316** » 10 Mar 2011, 15:45

I wonder which section the Panda logo's will go? "Your Logo Here" or "This is a Cool Spot"......

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 10 Mar 2011, 18:00

My guess is "nothing to see here"

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 10 Mar 2011, 18:13

I've had enough. The #GoHomeColinKolles hashtag is back on Twitter.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Mar 2011, 22:16

CarlosFerreira wrote:I've had enough. The #GoHomeColinKolles hashtag is back on Twitter.

Yay! The campaign is back in business.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 10 Mar 2011, 23:02

CarlosFerreira wrote:I've had enough. The #GoHomeColinKolles hashtag is back on Twitter.

Me like it.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 11 Mar 2011, 01:25

Klon wrote:
Aerond wrote:HRT have a new sponsor: Panda Security... Let the jokes begin!

It could be worse, they could be sponsored by Panda Energy.

BamBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 11 Mar 2011, 01:38

Myrvold wrote:Panda Security... That is the worst AV-program I've ever had!

Yeah, it's known as one of the worsts. And HRT say they'll use it to protect all their computers.
But it's natural. The company is Spanish too.

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 11 Mar 2011, 04:59

And it's not a new sponsor! They sponsored HRT last year as well if I'm not wrong.

MaxZero · Post by **MaxZero** » 11 Mar 2011, 09:38

Liuzzi on the new HRT, made me chuckle

Liuzzi wrote:It is faster than the other one

billy · Post by **billy** » 11 Mar 2011, 09:57

Myrvold wrote:And it's not a new sponsor! They sponsored HRT last year as well if I'm not wrong.

Correct! Just next to Sakon's head.

patrick · Post by **patrick** » 11 Mar 2011, 11:48

they actually have a car. I'm surprised, it looks interesting and different from the F110

Post by **tommykl** » 11 Mar 2011, 11:50

patrick wrote:they actually have a car. I'm surprised, it looks interesting and different from the F110

That's great.

Give me a second car and show me the two actually running, then I'm convinced.

patrick · Post by **patrick** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:09

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:10

Aerond wrote:HRT have a new sponsor: Panda Security... Let the jokes begin!

For the Middle-Eastern rounds they should be sponsored by Panda Cheese.

On the topic of sponsors I'd expect Joe Saward would want to sponsor HRT now that his favourite driver is driving for them.

patrick · Post by **patrick** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:16

well done to them, I honestly didn't think they'd manage it

Mister Fungus · Post by **Mister Fungus** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:21

It's... it's alive!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:23

The fact that it even exists amazes me.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:36

Now if they will regularly finish within 107% in qualifying, we could eat the humble pie too...

David AGS · Post by **David AGS** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:37

Lets hope it starts up!!!

still plenty of room for sponsors though!

S951 · Post by **S951** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:41

amazing!

front wing looks bgp seems more refined

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:46

Did I just died and went to rejectdom heaven?

Now, humble pie would be if not only they were within the 107% but actually faster than another "new" team...

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:51

However:

@alanbaldwinf1 wrote:The HRT may not do much running today however. Kolles says some suspension parts and dampers have yet to clear Spanish customs.

I repeat: Hisapnia have yet to clear Spanish customs.

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:53

P_Friesacher wrote:However:
@alanbaldwinf1 wrote:The HRT may not do much running today however. Kolles says some suspension parts and dampers have yet to clear Spanish customs.

I repeat: Hisapnia have yet to clear Spanish customs.

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:55

Hey, mario, if you don't mind, perhaps you can give us your technical overview of the F111, and perhaps compare it to the F110? Would love it, but don't force it.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 11 Mar 2011, 12:57

P_Friesacher wrote:However:
@alanbaldwinf1 wrote:The HRT may not do much running today however. Kolles says some suspension parts and dampers have yet to clear Spanish customs.

I repeat: Hisapnia have yet to clear Spanish customs.

It had to happen something... daft. This is really amateurish. I love it

!

S951 · Post by **S951** » 11 Mar 2011, 13:15

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 11 Mar 2011, 13:19

Mister Fungus wrote:It's... it's alive!

Oh my God! It looks... good, if I'm honest.

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 11 Mar 2011, 13:23

Looks surprisingly good, HRT have just jumped in front of RBR as my title favorites.

At least until they actually set a laptime...