2011 Malaysian Grand Prix Discussion

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Apr 2011, 07:22

It seems that a little piece of the suspension broke, which ultimately blew the tyre out. Reminds me of a Red Bull accident exactly in Sepang at 2008... or a Toro Rosso last year?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Apr 2011, 07:23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nVuKJfpBHw

Meanwhile the engine simply gave up even before leaving pitlane. :lol:

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 08 Apr 2011, 07:34

P2 107% time: 1.43.657

P2 Karthikeyan time: 1.43.167

Liuzzi, Kovalainen, and the absent D'Ambrosio miss the cut.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 08 Apr 2011, 08:24

Looks as if the wheels came off a few team's efforts in practice today! Ahem...

McLaren must be pretty happy to have consolidated their second position behind the Red Bulls, but as always practice can be deceiving. Nice to see Webber ahead of Vettel, though.

Post by **mario** » 08 Apr 2011, 09:21

Paul Hayes wrote:Looks as if the wheels came off a few team's efforts in practice today! Ahem...

McLaren must be pretty happy to have consolidated their second position behind the Red Bulls, but as always practice can be deceiving. Nice to see Webber ahead of Vettel, though.

Maybe, although, as you say, the practise times can be deceptive, since there is always the issue of fuel loads. It's good to see that Webber is back on form here, since his lack of pace in Australia seemed to be a bit peculiar (Horner did reveal that Webber had a problem with the rear heave spring which might have cost Webber some time, but it seems that poor set up work resulting from that problem was to blame for his bad tyre wear and lack of pace).
Still, we could see another Red Bull cakewalk if Hamilton's prediction that Red Bull have the best part of half a second in their pocket is true...

On another note, whilst Pirelli have brought additional tyres for this race as part of an ongoing testing program, Paul Hembrey has said that he thinks that the tyres might still be too durable, judging by Perez's performance in Australia. He does suggest that part of Perez's performance could be explained by driving style, and partially because Perez was able to use a fresh set of tyres and did not drive very aggressively in the opening laps. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90505
The thing is, it seems a bit early to say that the tyres are too durable - we saw how, for example, Ferrari seemed to be really struggling with their tyres (especially Massa), so Perez's performance for now looks more like a one off than the norm.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 08 Apr 2011, 10:01

"Then, before we know it, we are suddenly back to a one-stop in F1. F1 people are so good at making developments and understanding how to maximise the performance - so we do need to watch that, otherwise we will be back to square one."

This.

Brakes always are an issue in Montreal, and last year with the big fuel loads at the beginning of the race it was to be expected to see a lot of brake failures there, but it didn't happen. I've been saying during pre-season that they would learn how to use the tyres and we would have 2 pitstops at most races. What happens is that there's one thing F1 people do even better: whining! :lol:

And so they were complaining about high tyre degradation, 4-5 stop races and so on.

I don't want to see pitstops contests and the Melbourne balance looked about right. It doesn't bother me if there are three or four races during the season on which most people stop just once, as long as they have to pit twice or thrice in the other fifteen. And someone doing a Pérez from time to time it's not bad.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Apr 2011, 11:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmFEu77glg

Maldonado giving us a demonstration of the perfect mindless accident.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 08 Apr 2011, 13:08

Karthikeyan's engine troubles were more likely down to an oil leak or something similar. Certainly not an engine failure as he made it round more than a third of the track before pulling off, and was out again in FP2 though it seemed the problem hadn't quite gone away.

Happy with the performance from Virgin though, despite D'Ambrosio's lack of running in the second session after his off, but nonetheless Glock is well inside the 107%, about 3 seconds I believe, which is also around the same gap back to the HRTs.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 08 Apr 2011, 13:55

Wizzie wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmFEu77glg

Maldonado giving us a demonstration of the perfect mindless accident.

Oh, my...I see a repeat of 1995 coming, only with a slower car.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Apr 2011, 17:41

Wizzie wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmFEu77glg

Maldonado giving us a demonstration of the perfect mindless accident.

More rejectful than Chandhok's accident in Melbourne.
So far, Maldonado is the reject candidate for me because of this.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 08 Apr 2011, 18:50

Dear FOM:

If I see this on your official website...

...I expect to see this in your official practice...

Stop Lying to get viewers on sunday, you will leave people disappointed, i'm sure your aware of this happening just under a fortnight ago.

Yours Sincerely*.
Severely Annoyed of Wales.

*I say sincerely but If you were human FOM I'd punch you in the face.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 08 Apr 2011, 19:22

I agree, I expect to see a Coloni

Post by **mario** » 08 Apr 2011, 20:40

ADx_Wales wrote:Dear FOM:

If I see this on your official website...

...I expect to see this in your official practice...

Stop Lying to get viewers on sunday, you will leave people disappointed, i'm sure your aware of this happening just under a fortnight ago.

Yours Sincerely*.
Severely Annoyed of Wales.

*I say sincerely but If you were human FOM I'd punch you in the face.

Bit harsh - they are almost certainly using the same weather prediction service as the teams, race control and the stewards are using, which is Meteo France. If you really want to blame somebody for misleading forecasts, surely it'd be Meteo France, as providers of the weather forecast data - and I'd hardly think that there'd be many outside of France who would object to the principal of heckling the French...

GroupLotusRenault · Post by **GroupLotusRenault** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:53

Shizuka wrote:
Wizzie wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmFEu77glg

Maldonado giving us a demonstration of the perfect mindless accident.

More rejectful than Chandhok's accident in Melbourne.
So far, Maldonado is the reject candidate for me because of this.

Tell you what, bet old frank williams is regetting the day he replaced Hulkenberg with Maldonado....

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZABElrM4M

The failure ripped off the entire right front corner of D'Ambrosio's car. Plus points to Hispania for getting a cameo on that :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Apr 2011, 23:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8r9KrO1DX0

And here's Heidfeld's brake problems.

J Washburn Stoker · Post by **J Washburn Stoker** » 09 Apr 2011, 00:29

Wizzie wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmFEu77glg

Maldonado giving us a demonstration of the perfect mindless accident.

I always did the same thing in F12010.

whatisdeletrazdoing · Post by **whatisdeletrazdoing** » 09 Apr 2011, 03:08

What if Vettel is so fast that the entire rest of the field doesn't make the 107% rule? I bet Bernie never thought of that... (not that he would need to because that is entirely impossible and I'm a complete moron for even suggesting it) (but it still might happen...)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Apr 2011, 03:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BlX6wYMzg&feature=player_embedded

Oh dear. :lol:

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 09 Apr 2011, 04:59

Narain in full office uniform, someone appears to be ready, maybe the car is aswell...

...Liuzzi isnt... :-s

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Apr 2011, 05:37

Di Resta's spun twice in the space of 5 minutes. It's only a matter of time before he finds the wall.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 09 Apr 2011, 05:42

Narain, 5 seconds slower. THATS MORE LIKE IT!!!!

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 09 Apr 2011, 06:02

Both HRTs just outside 107%

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 09 Apr 2011, 06:05

Oh dear for HRT, still, it is unlikely there'll be a soft tyre run from the front teams and that could increase 107% by one second which may be the difference maker

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Apr 2011, 06:17

sswishbone wrote:Oh dear for HRT, still, it is unlikely there'll be a soft tyre run from the front teams and that could increase 107% by one second which may be the difference maker

From what I've seen in practice the front runners may not have a say in the matter. Alguersuari was only half a second slower on the softs than Vettel was on the hards so the likes of Ferrari and Mercedes may be forced to run softs in Q1 just to make it.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 09 Apr 2011, 07:43

Dear FOM.

Look at this.

Now look at the sky.

I dont care if you put your faith in a french weather service, it would help to look out the fricking window once in a while to see if your wrong.

Yours Frustratingly
Losing my racing religion.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 09 Apr 2011, 07:59

@ wizzie: - Yeah I was just seeing on BBC that Lotus think they may get into Q2 so it could be a very mixed event and really leave the teams right at the back on the ragged edge

surprised that none of the front runners are out setting a banker lap, we saw last year what a failure that could be

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:06

ADx_Wales wrote:Dear FOM.

Look at this.

Now look at the sky.

I dont care if you put your faith in a french weather service, it would help to look out the fricking window once in a while to see if your wrong.

Yours Frustratingly
Losing my racing religion.

Dear Losing,

We're afraid you may have confused us with Thor.

From,
FOM

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:08

Whoa! Buemi's left-hand sidepod cover has sheared off, red flags out

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:09

Is Buemi's role in F1 purely to lose pieces from his car?

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:10

And people said the Hispania's were dangerous because of shedding bodywork :lol:

Ruined laps for several people as well

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:10

he does seem to have bits just fall off for no reason

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:16

Finger Trouble.

Oo eerr missus.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:24

we may lose williams here if Team Lotus pull something out

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:25

What is Webber doing?

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:26

did hamilton and Button use soft tyres during that? If not that is imposing pace

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:26

Hispania in!!!

S951 · Post by **S951** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:26

both hrts in baby

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:27

sswishbone wrote:did hamilton and Button use soft tyres during that? If not that is imposing pace

Hamilton was on the softer tyres. Not sure about Button.

J Washburn Stoker · Post by **J Washburn Stoker** » 09 Apr 2011, 08:27

Congratulations HRT 8-)