Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:DOSBoot wrote:Robert Moreno's 2nd Place in the 1990 Japanese GP
Well, there really should have been more, right?
Right. But not in the Andrea Merde in 1992.
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:DOSBoot wrote:Robert Moreno's 2nd Place in the 1990 Japanese GP
Well, there really should have been more, right?
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
MCard LOLAdinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
dr-baker wrote:Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:DOSBoot wrote:Robert Moreno's 2nd Place in the 1990 Japanese GP
Well, there really should have been more, right?
Right. But not in the Andrea Merde in 1992.
DOSBoot wrote:Here's my take: "One Hit Wonder" Awarded to the driver who did an impressive run in one race, only to vanish into obscurity for the rest of their career.
John Love's 2nd place in the 1967 South African GP
Peter Gethin's win in the 1971 Italian GP
Robert Moreno's 2nd Place in the 1990 Japanese GP
redbulljack14 wrote:DOSBoot wrote:Here's my take: "One Hit Wonder" Awarded to the driver who did an impressive run in one race, only to vanish into obscurity for the rest of their career.
John Love's 2nd place in the 1967 South African GP
Peter Gethin's win in the 1971 Italian GP
Robert Moreno's 2nd Place in the 1990 Japanese GP
Very good idea in my opinion, well done to you for thinking of it.
How about Nico Hulkenberg, scored pole, done little else of notice. Although he is far superior to Maldonado.
ibsey wrote:Wow, just noticed this thread. For the "one hit wonder" idea does Nelson Piquet's Jr 2nd place at German 2008 count?
Also had another idea "Hall of Shame" idea. Best 'Giant Killing' performance. Couple of examples;
1. Ivan Capelli finishing 2nd at France 1990, & almost winning it.
2. Jean Alesi in Phoenix 1990
3. Pierluigi Martini qualifying 2nd or 3rd somewhere (I think it might have been Phoenix 1990 as well?).
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Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
ibsey wrote:Wow, just noticed this thread. For the "one hit wonder" idea does Nelson Piquet's Jr 2nd place at German 2008 count?
Also had another idea "Hall of Shame" idea. Best 'Giant Killing' performance. Couple of examples;
1. Ivan Capelli finishing 2nd at France 1990, & almost winning it.
2. Jean Alesi in Phoenix 1990
3. Pierluigi Martini qualifying 2nd or 3rd somewhere (I think it might have been Phoenix 1990 as well?).
DOSBoot wrote:I've been giving it some thought, and I've come up with some more "Hall of Shame" ideas for you guys to debate on.
"The Benchwarmer" Awarded to the driver who had a season from hell, while their teammate won the drivers championship.
1. Derek Daily 1982: Keke Rosberg 1st with 44 points. Daily 13th with just 8.
2. Ricardo Patrase 1983: Nelson Piquet 1st with 59 points. Patrase 9th with just 13.
3. Jochen Mass 1976: James Hunt 1st with 69 points. Mass 9th with 19.
DOSBoot wrote:"Waiting for Godot" Awarded to the driver who's maiden win took an unusually long amount of time before it finally happened to them.
1. Jean Alesi. Year Debut: 1989. Year Win: 1995.
2. Mark Webber. Year Debut: 2002. Year Win: 2009.
3. Jenson Button. Year Debut: 2000. Year Win: 2006.
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
MCard LOLAdinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
DOSBoot wrote:"Mr. Fawlty, and the Austin" (A reference to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc) Awarded to a driver who seemingly had a race win in their grasp, only for their car to fail them at the last minute.
1. Damon Hill's Arrows at the 1997 Hungarian GP
2. Ivan Cappeli's Letyon House March at the 1990 French GP
3. Dan Gurney's Eagle at the 1967 German GP
dr-baker wrote:For this section, how about Dave Walker? His only season, best finish of 9th, while his JPS Lotus teammate was the championship-winning Emerson Fittipaldi...
Mansell would be a contender too, wouldn't he?
QuickYoda41 wrote:Häkkinen, 2001 Spanish GP?
I like your categories, espacially the name Waiting for Godot.
DOSBoot wrote:QuickYoda41 wrote:Häkkinen, 2001 Spanish GP?
I like your categories, espacially the name Waiting for Godot.
Thanks, and yes, Hakkinen would also be a good choise.
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
MCard LOLAdinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
ibsey wrote:two more contenders for the "Waiting for Godot" award.
1. Thierry Boutsen debut (IIRC) 1983, 1st win 1989.
2. Rubens Barrichello debut 1993, 1st win 2000.
& for the "Mr. Fawlty, and the Austin" award, Alesi in Italy 1995 (although he retired about 5 laps from the flag).
DOSBoot wrote:I've been giving it some thought, and I've come up with some more "Hall of Shame" ideas for you guys to debate on.
"The Benchwarmer" Awarded to the driver who had a season from hell, while their teammate won the drivers championship.
1. Derek Daily 1982: Keke Rosberg 1st with 44 points. Daily 13th with just 8.
2. Ricardo Patrase 1983: Nelson Piquet 1st with 59 points. Patrase 9th with just 13.
3. Jochen Mass 1976: James Hunt 1st with 69 points. Mass 9th with 19.
"Mr. Fawlty, and the Austin" (A reference to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc) Awarded to a driver who seemingly had a race win in their grasp, only for their car to fail them at the last minute.
1. Damon Hill's Arrows at the 1997 Hungarian GP
2. Ivan Cappeli's Letyon House March at the 1990 French GP
3. Dan Gurney's Eagle at the 1967 German GP
"Waiting for Godot" Awarded to the driver who's maiden win took an unusually long amount of time before it finally happened to them.
1. Jean Alesi. Year Debut: 1989. Year Win: 1995.
2. Mark Webber. Year Debut: 2002. Year Win: 2009.
3. Jenson Button. Year Debut: 2000. Year Win: 2006.
Hoe you like these suggestions.
Biscione wrote:"Some Turkemenistani gulag repurposed for residential use" is the best way yet I've heard to describe North / East Glasgow.
DOSBoot wrote:Here's another one I came up with.
"The David Caruso Effect" Awarded to the driver who's career took a nosedive because of a bad team change.
1. Emerson Fittipaldi: From McLaren to Fittipaldi Automotive in 1975.
2. Phil Hill: From Ferrari to ATS in 1963.
3. Damon Hill: From Williams to Arrows in 1997.
redbulljack14 wrote:Timo Glock, from Toyota to Virgin, saying that, he had nowhere to go. I know Toyota ain't anything special but 2009 was one of their better seasons. Except 2005 and maybe 2008.
DOSBoot wrote:A couple more I came up with.
"The Money Pit" Awarded to the teams who spent a ridiculous amount of money on their project, only to receive less than expected results through their time in F1.
1. Toyota F1
2. Jaguar Racing
3. British American Racing
Biscione wrote:"Some Turkemenistani gulag repurposed for residential use" is the best way yet I've heard to describe North / East Glasgow.
DOSBoot wrote:Ligier in their early years were kind of on a shoe-string bugdget, and couldn't really afford to be championship contenders. Plus, they won races too, something none of the teams on my list can claim.
Biscione wrote:"Some Turkemenistani gulag repurposed for residential use" is the best way yet I've heard to describe North / East Glasgow.
DOSBoot wrote:Maybe so, but they would still put up some good performances from time to time.
DOSBoot wrote:A couple more I came up with.
"The Money Pit" Awarded to the teams who spent a ridiculous amount of money on their project, only to receive less than expected results through their time in F1.
1. Toyota F1
2. Jaguar Racing
3. British American Racing
Phoenix wrote:Maybe (just maybe) they knew Gugelmin was alright.
ibsey wrote:"With Apologies to Rembrandt"
1. Toleman; flag of all nations livery in 1985. yuck.
ibsey wrote:2. AGS (IIRC) who had that lion painted on their car in 1980.
DOSBoot wrote:Here's another one.
"The Temp Worker" Awarded to the driver who with an unusually large number of team switches throughout their career.
1. Andrea de Cesaris: Alfa Romeo (1980), McLaren (1981), Alfa Romeo (1982-83), Ligier (1984-85), Minardi (1986), Brabham (1987), Rial (1988), Dallara (1989-90), Jordan (1991), Tyrrell (1992-93), Jordan and Sauber (1994).
2. Eddie Cheever: Theodore and Hesketh (1978), Osella (1980), Tyrrell (1981), Ligier (1982), Renault (1983), Alfa Romeo (1984-85), Haas Lola (1986), Arrows (1987-89).
3. Martin Brundle: Tyrrell (1984-86), Zakspeed (1987), Williams (1988), Brabham (1989, 1991), Benetton (1992), Ligier (1993), McLaren (1994), Ligier (1995), Jordan (1996).
dinizintheoven wrote:ibsey wrote:"With Apologies to Rembrandt"
1. Toleman; flag of all nations livery in 1985. yuck.
Yuck indeed, but: fixed. The team wasn't officially taken over by Benetton until the 1986 season.ibsey wrote:2. AGS (IIRC) who had that lion painted on their car in 1980.
AGS did not compete until a handful of races in the 1986 season. I'm guessing you mean Shadow. I had a sort-of-informed guess at it myself, put "Shadow DN9" into Google and what should appear... this. Which was from the 1979 season; the DN11 and DN12 that competed in 1980 only managed one appearance on the grid between them, and the DN11 was all black, the DN12 all white - presumably because of the Theodore takeover.
The fact that they put the radiator where they did, as with a lot of late 1970s cars, made the gaping gob of the lion look completely ridiculous... they could at least have painted some teeth where the number was.
ibsey wrote:I think an honourably mention in the "With Apologies to Rembrandt" award should go to The Hesketh 308D (used between 1976 & 1977), where Penthouse became the first - and so far - only porn peddling sponsor in F1.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... 29,r:5,s:0
In these more politically correct times, its hard to imagine F1's bigger corporates players feeling comfortable about lining up next to a purveyor of adults-only material, but at the time Penthouse's sponsorship was apparently more a source of mild amusement in the paddock than anything else. More Benny Hill than Graham Hill it has to be said.
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
MCard LOLAdinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
dr-baker wrote:ibsey wrote:I think an honourably mention in the "With Apologies to Rembrandt" award should go to The Hesketh 308D (used between 1976 & 1977), where Penthouse became the first - and so far - only porn peddling sponsor in F1.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... 29,r:5,s:0
In these more politically correct times, its hard to imagine F1's bigger corporates players feeling comfortable about lining up next to a purveyor of adults-only material, but at the time Penthouse's sponsorship was apparently more a source of mild amusement in the paddock than anything else. More Benny Hill than Graham Hill it has to be said.
Don't forget that Surtees at a similar time was sponsored by Durex, manufacturers of speciality rubber balloons...: