Grand Prix Rejects

JeremyMcClean wrote:

stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kbmVdzlkM&feature=fvwrel

What an arse

That should be placed in the "unpopular opinions" section

Raikkonen was extremely unlucky in 2003 and 2005 (and then got lucky in 2007)

Piquet Sr has been through a lot of crap through his career, also pwned Mansell frequently

Damon Hill didn't get his Williams drive for no reason, he had TALENT

Phil Hill had crappy cars before and after 1961, thus explaining his sudden uprising and sudden downfall

And Stefan Bellof was masked by crappy machinery in the 1985 season. That, and Tyrrell was DSQ'd in 1984, thus erasing Bellof's 8 points he earned that year. Plus, he usually scored very consistently, when he did finish, his career was usually marred by technical failures. (Shoot me if I'm wrong, I saw a lot of DNF's in Bellof's 1984 season)

I was shocked to see Raikkonen. 2005 Suzuka comes to mind for a brilliant race.

Nelson Piquet. 3 world championships isnt that enough to allow people to rate them.

Stefan Bellof was taking it a bit far, I believe he would have had a great career

Irvine is someone I've never thought of as 'overrated', seem to recall he had to flog himself to get any recognition.

I would love to see someone bring this to the paddock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSOkLWd ... r_embedded

JeremyMcClean wrote:

stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kbmVdzlkM&feature=fvwrel

What an arse

That should be placed in the "unpopular opinions" section

Raikkonen was extremely unlucky in 2003 and 2005 (and then got lucky in 2007)

Piquet Sr has been through a lot of crap through his career, also pwned Mansell frequently

Damon Hill didn't get his Williams drive for no reason, he had TALENT

Phil Hill had crappy cars before and after 1961, thus explaining his sudden uprising and sudden downfall

And Stefan Bellof was masked by crappy machinery in the 1985 season. That, and Tyrrell was DSQ'd in 1984, thus erasing Bellof's 8 points he earned that year. Plus, he usually scored very consistently, when he did finish, his career was usually marred by technical failures. (Shoot me if I'm wrong, I saw a lot of DNF's in Bellof's 1984 season)

I have to agree that a number of the comments that particular person are a little confusing - he seems to have made his opinion on a number of drivers based on their results alone, ignoring the context in which those results were achieved.

After all, take Phil Hill - yes, his results before 1961 are not great, although he was the leading points scorer for Ferrari at the time, but that was in part because the Ferrari 246 was outclassed by the up and coming British teams like Lotus and Cooper, and Ferrari would soon be out developed after 1961.

And I also have to agree on a number of the other drivers - Piquet Sr., though not the most likeable of characters, was a very competitive driver when given a decent car. Besides, Mansell, whilst perhaps not the greatest driver ever, still had plenty of guts - his victory at the Hungarian GP in 1989, or passing Gerhard Berger around the outside of the Peraltada in the 1990 Mexican GP, were the moves of a very confident driver.

As for Massa, yes, at times he has been beaten by his team mates at Ferrari - but, then again, he had to compete against a Micheal Schumacher who was still in his prime, Kimi Raikkonen before he lost his motivation in the sport, and Alonso, who is probably one of the best drivers in the field at the moment. Against that sort of competition, it's not surprising that he has been beaten by his team mates, when he has consistently had some of the strongest competitors in the sport up against him.
On top of that, if we are honest, it isn't easy to compete against your team mate when it is abundantly clear that you are forced to be subservient to him anyway, and the team is revolving around Alonso now.

Also, the comments about Bruce McLaren are quite harsh too - Bruce McLaren was more than just a "competent" driver. Yes, he was beaten by Sir Jack Brabham (although, given that Brabham was no slouch behind the wheel, there is no shame in that), and he was still able to finish in the top three in the championship on several occasions (for example, in 1962, when Graham Hill and Jim Clark were competing hammer and tongs for the entire season - and, without having to drop finishes, Bruce would have actually beaten Jim Clark to 2nd place). It didn't help either that Bruce was driving for Cooper at a time when they were sliding back down the field, at first slowly, and then more sharply after the founders of the company were hit by personal tragedies.

All in all, some quite unfair comments in that clip - but, then again, it was probably made in a deliberately provocative style simply to attract attention.

Howard A Treesong wrote:Irvine is someone I've never thought of as 'overrated', seem to recall he had to flog himself to get any recognition.

Recognition for what? Crashing, being blown into the weeds by Barrichello at Jordan, and by the Benettons and McLarens in his first two years at Ferrari?

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Irvine is someone I've never thought of as 'overrated', seem to recall he had to flog himself to get any recognition.

Recognition for what? Crashing, being blown into the weeds by Barrichello at Jordan, and by the Benettons and McLarens in his first two years at Ferrari?

To be honest 96 was blighted by his Ferraris gearbox, but every other drive had been satasfactory.

If you are crap in F1 you will never win a race, doesnt matter if you are lucky or not

JeremyMcClean wrote:

stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kbmVdzlkM&feature=fvwrel

What an arse

And Stefan Bellof was masked by crappy machinery in the 1985 season. That, and Tyrrell was DSQ'd in 1984, thus erasing Bellof's 8 points he earned that year. Plus, he usually scored very consistently, when he did finish, his career was usually marred by technical failures. (Shoot me if I'm wrong, I saw a lot of DNF's in Bellof's 1984 season)

Oh boy, you wouldn't want me to start ranting on how Stefan Bellof is the greatest driver in the world... again..

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:

JeremyMcClean wrote:

stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kbmVdzlkM&feature=fvwrel

What an arse

And Stefan Bellof was masked by crappy machinery in the 1985 season. That, and Tyrrell was DSQ'd in 1984, thus erasing Bellof's 8 points he earned that year. Plus, he usually scored very consistently, when he did finish, his career was usually marred by technical failures. (Shoot me if I'm wrong, I saw a lot of DNF's in Bellof's 1984 season)

Oh boy, you wouldn't want me to start ranting on how Stefan Bellof is the greatest driver in the world... again..

You can do. But as long as its 3 key words

DOSBoot wrote:I would love to see someone bring this to the paddock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSOkLWd ... r_embedded

This man shouldn't be allowed near children...

JeanDenisAlcatraz wrote:

DOSBoot wrote:I would love to see someone bring this to the paddock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSOkLWd ... r_embedded

This man shouldn't be allowed near children...

Agreed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9cILuBJ768

Old Esteban here winning a championship for Advertising Hoardings

Very rejectworthy video from a German GT race 2 hours ago (no F1 driver directly involved, although HHF is the other driver in the Corvette with the big red dot on the side).

I've never seen that before! Oh, wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfrfdgzPmVM

Marco wrote:Very rejectworthy video from a German GT race 2 hours ago (no F1 driver directly involved, although HHF is the other driver in the Corvette with the big red dot on the side).

I've never seen that before! Oh, wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfrfdgzPmVM

The guy in the other Virgin... what was his name again?

Pointrox wrote:

Marco wrote:Very rejectworthy video from a German GT race 2 hours ago (no F1 driver directly involved, although HHF is the other driver in the Corvette with the big red dot on the side).

I've never seen that before! Oh, wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfrfdgzPmVM

The guy in the other Virgin... what was his name again?

the belgian chap?

WeirdKerr wrote:

Pointrox wrote:

Marco wrote:Very rejectworthy video from a German GT race 2 hours ago (no F1 driver directly involved, although HHF is the other driver in the Corvette with the big red dot on the side).

I've never seen that before! Oh, wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfrfdgzPmVM

The guy in the other Virgin... what was his name again?

the belgian chap?

Yeah, this one.
Dumfriesio or something like that.

D'evonricepudding

Marco wrote:Very rejectworthy video from a German GT race 2 hours ago (no F1 driver directly involved, although HHF is the other driver in the Corvette with the big red dot on the side).

I've never seen that before! Oh, wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfrfdgzPmVM

Thank you for reminding me, I wanted to post a similar video on the same track some time ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y353AwXV5M

And into the pitlane...

While we're at it:
David Coulthard's antics at Nurburgring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2glgAg7an60

Pointrox wrote:While we're at it:
David Coulthard's antics at Nurburgring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2glgAg7an60

DC's becoming a grumpy old man

What if Eric Van De Poele had crossed the line for 5th place at the 1991 San Marino Grand Prix?

Would he have got a better drive for 1992?

ADx_Wales wrote:D'evonricepudding

Jerome DamnSlow'Yo?

Marco wrote:Very rejectworthy video from a German GT race 2 hours ago (no F1 driver directly involved, although HHF is the other driver in the Corvette with the big red dot on the side).

I've never seen that before! Oh, wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfrfdgzPmVM

This reminded me of what happened in the pitlane at the Hamilton round of the V8 Supercars earlier this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh3z8Lf3cJg

Some shenanigans from the 1989 British F3!! Some future rejects as well as future champions in there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVYnnxWMXWg&feature=related

Deja-vu from DC?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20UoJRnv4k4&NR=1

Haven't seen this in a few years, anti-stall I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeRH9yWrWWk

Luca Badoer hitting a car in Parc Ferme...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4jSulqs61o&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvsWzysHtQU&feature=related


Spins and prangs from Mansells season.

stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvsWzysHtQU&feature=related


Spins and prangs from Mansells season.

Note that the first car spinning out in the video is Giovanna Amati. I bet there's not much footage from her!

Phoenix wrote:

stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvsWzysHtQU&feature=related


Spins and prangs from Mansells season.

Note that the first car spinning out in the video is Giovanna Amati. I bet there's not much footage from her!

Intresting. I just wish there were more footage of Reject Teams and Drivers

Not F1 related (not even close to any motorsport whatsoever) but as rejectful as it gets.
American censorship at its finest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4t6zNZ-b0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9y2lAuo90

Robocop the pre 9pm version in the uk had the best one though...

Robocop stuck in the middle of a "pond" in some unused factory, one of the gang members drops a pile of metal on him from a crane and shouts "DIE YOU BLAGGARD!!!"

ADx_Wales wrote:Robocop the pre 9pm version in the uk had the best one though...

Robocop stuck in the middle of a "pond" in some unused factory, one of the gang members drops a pile of metal on him from a crane and shouts "DIE YOU BLAGGARD!!!"

Even when I was watching it on movie channels sometimes, the "uncut" version would have some of the violence toned down.

The guy who ended up coverd in toxic waste is also missing from the one I had on tape, so the guy driving the van essentially goes straight into the "pond"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcyt_ZLvN_E

its out of sync, but Amati is here too!

"Blonde,
Female,
(and for you lucky fellas), Single."

ADx_Wales wrote:The guy who ended up coverd in toxic waste is also missing from the one I had on tape, so the guy driving the van essentially goes straight into the "pond"

That clip made it over here in the U.S., but the extented version of Peter Weller's execution scene was toned down gradually. The full uncut version of that film is availiable on dvd.

Probably been posted already, but here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-MPOUBNMA

DOSBoot wrote:Probably been posted already, but here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-MPOUBNMA

It has, but it is pretty funny watching Dom getting ill

stupot94 wrote:

DOSBoot wrote:Probably been posted already, but here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-MPOUBNMA

It has, but it is pretty funny watching Dom getting ill

To add on top of that, Hill probably makes the best comment about it at the end of the video.

More rejects (Bernoldi, Burti, Montagny etc) showing how not to do it in Formula 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIy0y44DQvE

I used to have the 1989 F3 Video on almost every night for almost a year, the names are etched into the back of my head:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVYnnxWMXWg

And I'm sure you'll recognise plenty of them...