Grand Prix Rejects

Autodynamics Group wrote:Plus one, wait your turn

Luke Knight wrote:What do you mean? We are waiting. That was just a rumour published by the website www.rwrsupdate.com

Autosport wrote:Katayama pleased to have joined Revolution
At a press conference at the Revolution DMS HQ up in cold Scotland, Shinobu Katayama was in Revolution DMS overalls and beaming a happy smile. She said "I am very please to have joined my former team mate at Sunshine, here at Revolution DMS. Although I will have to prequalify, I am sure with some funding to get me up to speed with the car, which will improve my qualifying pace, we will easily prequalify. Shizuka has shown time and time again that the car is fast and he is definately one of the top drivers in the sport, but the second driver has let him down.", when asked about the prospec of being in prequalifing with Sunshine, she added "It will be fun, if we can outqualify them then it will prove that the car in is desperate need of funding, like I said all along.", she added, "James Davies better keep out of my way, as I was upset that he called for me to be banned,". Revolution DMS have only managed to qualify for one race, but Hagane Shizuka nearly scored points.

Yuka Katayama wants to stay
One of the up and coming talents in F2RWRS, who is racing for Falik Arrows has stated to us that she does not want to give up her Sunshine reserve driver role, she said "Although my sister can be a violent person at times and I can understand why the management did what they did, I am not my sister. Although my sister did get me into the team, I am hoping the team, seeing my talent in F2RWRS will keep me on. Talks with management have been positive but I am hoping that will get back to me soon. Also to clarify, Shiseido are my personal sponsors, so they are going to stay as long as I stay.". Sunshine management did not get back to us with a comment.

Sunshine sponsors to stay?
Major sponsor Shiseido have stated that they will stay as a sponsor for Sunshine for the foreseeable future, they said in a hasty press conference "We sponsor both the Katayama sisters, however after Shinobu Katayamas actions we have decided to terminate our relationship with her, however her sister Yuka is still a reserve driver for the team and as long as she stays then we will stay.". Yellow Hat are looking to get out after the poor performance of the Sunshine team and due to Shinobus actions. Shisedo are a major Japanese cosmetics company and Yellow Hat are a chain of car maintence shops.

Mark Dagnall - Its no challenge.
A close friend of Mark Dagnall, has told us that Mark is unhappy with the level of competition and that the car is too good that it does not offer him a challenge. He was allegeded to have said "This Monaco win was like a walk in the park, I mean, I did not make too much of an effort to qualify and I still lapped everyone and even the midfield teams I lapped twice. I am seriously thinking of joining a midfield team like Jones, Kamaha or Gillet to give myself a bit more a challenge for the 2016 season.", if true then it could make the 2016 driver market more interesting. Only Mark Dagnall and Rhys Davies have won races this season.

Mori - Still work to be done
After an excellent 5th place from 15th on the grid, the Kamaha team were celebrating but Mori said "It is good we have our first proper finish this season and in the points, but we still have issues as our qualifying pace deserted us and Nicolas [Steele] is unhappy with his 4th retirement in a row. We are working hard for Mexico to get a podium, but we are heading in the right direction."

Vantini - Very 'appy
Rosco Vantini was jumping for joy after his hard earned third place, he said to us, "I am very very very 'appy with a third in Monaco. I feel we will improve and Sammy [Jones] has said to me that he knows I can win this season. Now I am off to drink some more champagne,"

SuperAguri wrote:

Autosport wrote:Katayama pleased to have joined Revolution
At a press conference at the Revolution DMS HQ up in cold Scotland, Shinobu Katayama was in Revolution DMS overalls and beaming a happy smile. She said "I am very please to have joined my former team mate at Sunshine, here at Revolution DMS. Although I will have to prequalify, I am sure with some funding to get me up to speed with the car, which will improve my qualifying pace, we will easily prequalify. Shizuka has shown time and time again that the car is fast and he is definately one of the top drivers in the sport, but the second driver has let him down.", when asked about the prospec of being in prequalifing with Sunshine, she added "It will be fun, if we can outqualify them then it will prove that the car in is desperate need of funding, like I said all along.", she added, "James Davies better keep out of my way, as I was upset that he called for me to be banned,". Revolution DMS have only managed to qualify for one race, but Hagane Shizuka nearly scored points.

Autosport wrote:Moll under threat at Gillet?

Following a series of disappointing results by Aurelien Moll at Gillet ENB, the team for which he has driven since the start of his career, rumours are rife about an eventual falling out with the team. The once team leader has struggled to keep up with his team mate Thomas De Bock this season and is rumoured to be on the way out should his results fail to improve. With Mark Dagnall stating interest in joining a smaller team for 2016, this could be an opportunity for Gillet to sign a two-time champion.

Autosport wrote:Kaytayama asks for Japanese GP race
Shinobu Katayama has asked Hagane Shizuka if she could race in German, Italian and Japanese GP in addition to the Mexican GP she will be racing in, it is known that last year Katayama scored podiums in these races and they are her favourite tracks. She also hinted that she would also like America and Belgium too, but knows that Marie Simone has to contractually race in 8 GPs.

SuperAguri wrote:

Autosport wrote:Kaytayama asks for Japanese GP race
Shinobu Katayama has asked Hagane Shizuka if she could race in German, Italian and Japanese GP in addition to the Mexican GP she will be racing in, it is known that last year Katayama scored podiums in these races and they are her favourite tracks. She also hinted that she would also like America and Belgium too, but knows that Marie Simone has to contractually race in 8 GPs.

Kingfisher: Points go begging, Contracts and Phillipe Nicolas
Mr.Alexander was left disappointed after Monaco, as David Neuberg drive a careful race inside the top 10 until his gearbox failure late on. "There was a slim chance at a couple of points on Sunday, so it's a shame David suffered another mechanical problem. As for Ashley, he struggled in qualifying so was always going to be chasing the pack during the race. But at least he finished, which shows at least one car can last a race distance."
MRT and Kingfisher now have an agreement in place to swap Neuberg with MRT's second driver, Frenchman Nicolas. "Yes, we have accepted the swap for the three North American races. It'll be something good for both teams: MRT have a young hotshot who can bring a little bit of money to them whilst we take on another proven racer. Things should be good."
David Neuberg is under contract until the end of next year, but rumours are already linking him to the second MRT already. "I like MRT", said Mr.Alexander. "I like how they do things. We get on well, and I wouldn't like to disrupt that. But David has a contract already set in concrete, tying him to the team until the end of 2016. But I wouldn't rule out a move for the lad. These next three races may show just how good David is."

Boxtel Engineering wrote:Spencer Out, Kekkonen In

Nathanael Spencer has been benched by the Boxtel team after an extremely disappointing effort at the Monaco Grand Prix in which he failed to qualify while his teammate finished in a respectable seventh. Spencer has been replaced for the North American rounds by ex-ArrowTech driver Jari Kekkonen who was signed as the team's reserve drivers earlier in the year. Depending on how Kekkonen performs, a decision on Spencer's future role with the team will be made at a later date. Andrea Battani's position at the team is secure, however, and we would like to re-sign him for next season if possible.

Aerond wrote:Also, please somebody sum up driver changes for Mexico

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Also, is Whitechapel a pay-driver?

Aerond wrote:Credits corrected for Kamaha (have 10 left);

SuperAguri wrote:

Aerond wrote:Credits corrected for Kamaha (have 10 left);

Can you confirm that I did get my upgrades and that you didn't just forget to do it and then just take all my credits. :p

To add to this...

Kekkonen in, Spencer out (Boxtel)
Nicolas and Neuberg swap places (to Kingfisher and MRT respectively)
Simpson in, Melrose out (Simpson)
Whitechapel out, Melrose in (HRT)

Sunshine - Katayama out, Daniel Martins in
Revolution - Marie Simone out, Katayama in (Katayama will race in the Mexican, USA, German, Italian and Japanese GPs, Marie Simone will race the Canadian, British, Begium, Austrian, North Sea, Chinese and Brazilian GPs)

SuperAguri wrote:Revolution - Marie Simone out, Katayama in (Katayama will race in the Mexican, USA, German, Italian and Japanese GPs, Marie Simone will race the Canadian, British, Begium, Austrian, North Sea, Chinese and Brazilian GPs. although this may change if Katayama scores some points.)

JeremyMcClean wrote:Knew I forgot someone!

Wizzie wrote:

SuperAguri wrote:Revolution - Marie Simone out, Katayama in (Katayama will race in the Mexican, USA, German, Italian and Japanese GPs, Marie Simone will race the Canadian, British, Begium, Austrian, North Sea, Chinese and Brazilian GPs. although this may change if Katayama scores some points.)

Simon has to do at least 7 more races this year otherwise Revolution will be fined for contravening Article 4.4 of the regulations so if Katayama's going to get any more races, it'll be at the expense of Shizuka.

JeremyMcClean wrote:Knew I forgot someone!

Weren't you firing that clown Al Faisal at one point as well?

Wizzie wrote:Simon has to do at least 7 more races this year otherwise Revolution will be fined for contravening Article 4.4 of the regulations so if Katayama's going to get any more races, it'll be at the expense of Shizuka.

kostas22 wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Simon has to do at least 7 more races this year otherwise Revolution will be fined for contravening Article 4.4 of the regulations so if Katayama's going to get any more races, it'll be at the expense of Shizuka.

What? No, this doesn't sound at all right...fined? Pretty sure that wasn't in the rules. Just that you wouldn't get the bonus payout.

Wizzie wrote:

SuperAguri wrote:Revolution - Marie Simone out, Katayama in (Katayama will race in the Mexican, USA, German, Italian and Japanese GPs, Marie Simone will race the Canadian, British, Begium, Austrian, North Sea, Chinese and Brazilian GPs. although this may change if Katayama scores some points.)

Simon has to do at least 7 more races this year otherwise Revolution will be fined for contravening Article 4.4 of the regulations so if Katayama's going to get any more races, it'll be at the expense of Shizuka.

Aerond wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

SuperAguri wrote:Revolution - Marie Simone out, Katayama in (Katayama will race in the Mexican, USA, German, Italian and Japanese GPs, Marie Simone will race the Canadian, British, Begium, Austrian, North Sea, Chinese and Brazilian GPs. although this may change if Katayama scores some points.)

Simon has to do at least 7 more races this year otherwise Revolution will be fined for contravening Article 4.4 of the regulations so if Katayama's going to get any more races, it'll be at the expense of Shizuka.

And that plan for Katayama would break the rules too; since a driver can't get more than 2 stints within the same team within a season. However, a penalty hasn't been defined yet; it could either be a driver can have more stints at the expense of a credit penalty, or it could be that after a 2nd stint, a driver is denied a license to race again for that team until the end of the season.

Wizzie wrote:
I was actually wondering if that two stint rule still existed because now it means several teams are now in a whole world of trouble with driver management.

Aerond wrote:

Wizzie wrote:
I was actually wondering if that two stint rule still existed because now it means several teams are now in a whole world of trouble with driver management.

Yes, that rule was never removed, neither were there talks of removal. The driver cap rule simply exists because I don't want to spend 2 hours before every F1RWRS weekend just tweaking the carset, so F1RWRS don't eat time I need for other real life commitments.
And yes, there're a few team managers in trouble

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:Why can't people stick with two drivers?

Wizzie wrote:

Aerond wrote:

Wizzie wrote:
I was actually wondering if that two stint rule still existed because now it means several teams are now in a whole world of trouble with driver management.

Yes, that rule was never removed, neither were there talks of removal. The driver cap rule simply exists because I don't want to spend 2 hours before every F1RWRS weekend just tweaking the carset, so F1RWRS don't eat time I need for other real life commitments.
And yes, there're a few team managers in trouble

And therein lies the good thing about GP4 performance files in that they're simply notepad documents which take literally seconds to edit.

Aerond wrote:

Wizzie wrote:
I was actually wondering if that two stint rule still existed because now it means several teams are now in a whole world of trouble with driver management.

Yes, that rule was never removed, neither were there talks of removal. The driver cap rule simply exists because I don't want to spend 2 hours before every F1RWRS weekend just tweaking the carset, so F1RWRS don't eat time I need for other real life commitments.
And yes, there're a few team managers in trouble

SuperAguri wrote:

Aerond wrote:

Wizzie wrote:
I was actually wondering if that two stint rule still existed because now it means several teams are now in a whole world of trouble with driver management.

Yes, that rule was never removed, neither were there talks of removal. The driver cap rule simply exists because I don't want to spend 2 hours before every F1RWRS weekend just tweaking the carset, so F1RWRS don't eat time I need for other real life commitments.
And yes, there're a few team managers in trouble

I have looked at the rules, several times, and it only says that

1.1.3 Each team can only employ two (2) drivers at any time.
1.1.4 Each team is entitled to sign test drivers.
1.1.5 Each team can only use a maximum of four (4) drivers in races throughout the season, except in extraordinary circumstances.

So my reading of the rules is that, a team is allowed to race 4 drivers as in people, through the course of the season. If it was a stint then rules 1.1.5 Should read Each team is entitled to two driver changes throughout the season, exccept in extraordinary circumstances.

Most people will read 1.1.3 as two race drivers and 1.1.4 as their reserve drivers.

Hopefully you will not change the rule mid season and if you are going to change it, then you should do it for 2016.

Shizuka wrote:Okay, let's make it clear:

I do not want to break the rules, so 7 races will still be available for Simon. If points come by, that's good, but a penalty would be bigger than the amount of credits by that points we'd have.

• Dave Simpson
• Michael Robertson
• Michael Cameron
• Mitchell Macklin (unconfirmed)
• Dave Anderson (unconfirmed)

Wizzie wrote:

Shizuka wrote:Okay, let's make it clear:

I do not want to break the rules, so 7 races will still be available for Simon. If points come by, that's good, but a penalty would be bigger than the amount of credits by that points we'd have.

That is correct. However, in order to do those races, Simon can only do two separate stints for the year (How you split it is up to you so long as the two stints add up to 8 races in total). Additional stints are allowed however if one of your drivers are either injured or manages to piss the Commissioner off so bad they get a race ban for their trouble.

SuperAguri wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

Shizuka wrote:Okay, let's make it clear:

I do not want to break the rules, so 7 races will still be available for Simon. If points come by, that's good, but a penalty would be bigger than the amount of credits by that points we'd have.

That is correct. However, in order to do those races, Simon can only do two separate stints for the year (How you split it is up to you so long as the two stints add up to 8 races in total). Additional stints are allowed however if one of your drivers are either injured or manages to piss the Commissioner off so bad they get a race ban for their trouble.

But there is *nothing* in the rules to state that a driver can only do two stints. Just that a team is not allowed to use more then 4 drivers and that a pay driver has to do 8 races (implied : in a season). The interpretation of 4 drivers and employ of 2 drivers is on Ferrari / Red Bull levels of interpretation but as it stands Revolution are abiding by the rules to the letter.

I shall bring the matter up at the F1RWRS team owners meeting.

Wizzie wrote:

SuperAguri wrote:

Wizzie wrote:That is correct. However, in order to do those races, Simon can only do two separate stints for the year (How you split it is up to you so long as the two stints add up to 8 races in total). Additional stints are allowed however if one of your drivers are either injured or manages to piss the Commissioner off so bad they get a race ban for their trouble.

But there is *nothing* in the rules to state that a driver can only do two stints. Just that a team is not allowed to use more then 4 drivers and that a pay driver has to do 8 races (implied : in a season). The interpretation of 4 drivers and employ of 2 drivers is on Ferrari / Red Bull levels of interpretation but as it stands Revolution are abiding by the rules to the letter.

I shall bring the matter up at the F1RWRS team owners meeting.

However, that two stints rule has been in place since race one of 2014. It's just that in my incompetence, I accidentally omitted it from the regulations but that mistake hasn't been noticed before today because it hasn't been an issue.

the Masked Lapwing wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

SuperAguri wrote:
But there is *nothing* in the rules to state that a driver can only do two stints. Just that a team is not allowed to use more then 4 drivers and that a pay driver has to do 8 races (implied : in a season). The interpretation of 4 drivers and employ of 2 drivers is on Ferrari / Red Bull levels of interpretation but as it stands Revolution are abiding by the rules to the letter.

I shall bring the matter up at the F1RWRS team owners meeting.

However, that two stints rule has been in place since race one of 2014. It's just that in my incompetence, I accidentally omitted it from the regulations but that mistake hasn't been noticed before today because it hasn't been an issue.

OK, fine, you take the fall, after all I was the one who wrote them in the first place

FMecha wrote:There are rumors that the Gauthier-Fighting Mongooses constorium may take over Sunshine in 2016 or 2017. More news as it follows. - from J.O.U.R.N.A.L's (imaginary) Twitter page

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:What? Zere is no, 'ow you say, Gauthier-Fighting Mongooses consortium! I 'ave nothing to do with them!