The 2012 IndyCar Series thread

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 28 Mar 2011, 11:22

Cynon wrote:
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Am I the only one who finds it funny that on the official DCR website, they state 'Sebastien Bourdais returns to IndyCar' and '4-time IndyCar champion' when technically he's never been in the series before?

IndyCar acquired all of the CART records in the same way that CART acquired all of the USAC records. So technically, A.J. Foyt has the most IRL wins of all time with 67.

So, for the years that IRL and CART coexisted, there were two champions?

JohnMLTX · Post by **JohnMLTX** » 28 Mar 2011, 23:42

So, apparantly Both Dreyer & Reinbold drivers suffered broken wrists during the race.

And for those who didn't catch the race, here's the turn 1 crash.

And if you're looking to torrent said race, just email me at [email protected].

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 29 Mar 2011, 10:27

When Baltimore rolls around, expect a short interview between me and Bordais. lol
I will ask simple fan questions like "do you think this is easier than driving a formula one car" and other stuff like "do you think you are a reject of sorts". Meh I have wanted to meet him since he came to america for IndyCar racing.
In mid-late August I'll start a thread where you guys(who are unable to attend the race) can post questions you want me to ask him.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 29 Mar 2011, 11:29

nome66 wrote:When Baltimore rolls around, expect a short interview between me and Bordais. lol
I will ask simple fan questions like "do you think this is easier than driving a formula one car" and other stuff like "do you think you are a reject of sorts". Meh I have wanted to meet him since he came to america for IndyCar racing.
In mid-late August I'll start a thread where you guys(who are unable to attend the race) can post questions you want me to ask him.

Has he ever been mistaken for being related in any way to Anthony Bourdain?

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 30 Mar 2011, 08:40

DanielPT wrote:
Cynon wrote:
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Am I the only one who finds it funny that on the official DCR website, they state 'Sebastien Bourdais returns to IndyCar' and '4-time IndyCar champion' when technically he's never been in the series before?

IndyCar acquired all of the CART records in the same way that CART acquired all of the USAC records. So technically, A.J. Foyt has the most IRL wins of all time with 67.

So, for the years that IRL and CART coexisted, there were two champions?

Yep. But that's no different when USAC and CART "Coexisted". Granted, after like 1981 the only USAC race was the Indianapolis 500...

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 30 Mar 2011, 10:18

That is what the framers of the US constitution....... IIII meeeaann the original owner if IMS would have wanted.
This "series" stuff is fine if the fans were to pay more attention to the other races on the schedule, but the pinnacle of all open wheel racing still remains the 500 miles. That is what most racing fans around the world want to see. Don't deny it!
"A 'gran prix' race on a street course? Don't we hev Ef wun for dat?" -actual quote of my younger cousin on f1 vs indycar.
He is like four years old, but somehow old enough to voice an opinion on Lotus vs. Lotus. lol

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 06 Apr 2011, 21:12

The Baguette is going to race the indy 500 for rahal. So far only the 500 and no other races.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Apr 2011, 03:10

Power on pole for Barber tomorrow...

Some Notables:

Briscoe: 2nd
Wilson: 5th
Sato: 11th
Newman/Haas: 6th and 8th.
Simona de Silvestro: 13th
Viso: 18th (Only mentioning him because he's going to spin and fail. Many times.)
Bourdais: 20th (Showing that Dale Coyne's cars are real crapwagons this season... Dale Coyne is the Minardi of IndyCar)
Danica: 22nd (Was like 13th in practice so may be faster than that)
Kanaan: 24th (Deserves it)
Jakes: 25th

LucaPacchiarini · Post by **LucaPacchiarini** » 10 Apr 2011, 12:32

only Coyne actually won a race... was it 2009?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 10 Apr 2011, 14:12

LucaPacchiarini wrote:only Coyne actually won a race... was it 2009?

Yes, with the (great? legendary, but only in my mind?) F1 Reject, Justin Wilson!

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Apr 2011, 20:24

Spoiler Warning

Takuma Sato's back up to his old tricks, he noobed into Castroneves and spun himself around.... oh Taku, what would we ever do without you...

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 10 Apr 2011, 20:26

He did the same thing on the previous lap, and thought it was so good he'd do it again....TAKUUUUU!!!

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Apr 2011, 21:02

Spoiler Warning That Isn't Really a Spoiler

EJ Viso noobed up again.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 10 Apr 2011, 21:05

Did he lose a spoiler in the process?

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Apr 2011, 21:31

Another Spoiler Alert

Ryan Briscoe is dumb. This is the IRL, not F1, there are no designated passing zones, and drivers are supposed to race. The stewards are also dumb for insisting that double-file restarts are the way to go.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 10 Apr 2011, 21:34

Double-Dutch Restarts were Tony George 2.O's idea.

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 10 Apr 2011, 22:46

Cynon wrote:Another Spoiler Alert

Ryan Briscoe is dumb. This is the IRL, not F1, there are no designated passing zones, and drivers are supposed to race. The stewards are also dumb for insisting that double-file restarts are the way to go.

Also spoilers:

Well, amazingly, I disagree with both of the things you have said. There are no "designated passing zones", but the way Hunter-Reay was trying to do it here could only have lead to the result it has actually lead to. He was not in front of Briscoe going into the corner and then he also clipped the curb and went straight into Briscoe, whose anger I fully understand. (Much as I usually like Hunter-Reay).
Also, the Double File Restarts have created some very interesting situations in this race and the drivers have started to get used to it, and will continue to do so in the next few races.

Also, the people at Barber Motorsports Park need to seriously look into getting a few (more) tire barrieres on the outside of some of the corners, as I'm sure Mike Conway will agree. They can hardly be too expensive for people who could afford to build such a great facility.

Also, I agree about Viso. He is not a traditional reject like the people we love at this website, he is just a driver very much out of his depth and a danger to himself and to others. He simply cannot go on ruining other people's races like he did again today. And I seriously doubt even PDVSA could pay for as much as he keeps ruining every weekend. He seemed like a nice enough guy in the interview on Versus after the crash, but regardless: This can't go on. He needs to get his act together FAST.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Apr 2011, 23:52

P_Friesacher wrote:
Cynon wrote:Another Spoiler Alert

Ryan Briscoe is dumb. This is the IRL, not F1, there are no designated passing zones, and drivers are supposed to race. The stewards are also dumb for insisting that double-file restarts are the way to go.

Also spoilers:

Well, amazingly, I disagree with both of the things you have said. There are no "designated passing zones", but the way Hunter-Reay was trying to do it here could only have lead to the result it has actually lead to. He was not in front of Briscoe going into the corner and then he also clipped the curb and went straight into Briscoe, whose anger I fully understand. (Much as I usually like Hunter-Reay).
Also, the Double File Restarts have created some very interesting situations in this race and the drivers have started to get used to it, and will continue to do so in the next few races.

Also, the people at Barber Motorsports Park need to seriously look into getting a few (more) tire barrieres on the outside of some of the corners, as I'm sure Mike Conway will agree. They can hardly be too expensive for people who could afford to build such a great facility.

Also, I agree about Viso. He is not a traditional reject like the people we love at this website, he is just a driver very much out of his depth and a danger to himself and to others. He simply cannot go on ruining other people's races like he did again today. And I seriously doubt even PDVSA could pay for as much as he keeps ruining every weekend. He seemed like a nice enough guy in the interview on Versus after the crash, but regardless: This can't go on. He needs to get his act together FAST.

Robin Miller even said during the middle of the race: "I think Viso brings about 3 million in sponsorship, and that's about how big his repair bill is, so he needs to find some extra cash, fast." Total owned.

McDuck · Post by **McDuck** » 11 Apr 2011, 05:06

That Swiss cutie was pretty darn competitive. I think she would have gotten a stronger result had that reject Spyker test driver not ruined her race.

She seems to have the one thing that Danica Patrick lacks. Talent.

Sullivangate · Post by **Sullivangate** » 11 Apr 2011, 05:07

After the last two races I have Murray Walker in my head going "And what is EJ VIso doing?"

Sullivangate · Post by **Sullivangate** » 11 Apr 2011, 05:08

McDuck wrote:That Swiss cutie was pretty darn competitive. I think she would have gotten a stronger result had that reject Spyker test driver not ruined her race.

She seems to have the one thing that Danica Patrick lacks. Talent.

Danica's a girl.

Simona's a woman.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 11 Apr 2011, 09:15

I like Simona.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 12 Apr 2011, 07:07

McDuck wrote:She seems to have the one thing that Danica Patrick lacks. Talent on road courses.

Fixed. Danica can hack it on the ovals and in longer races (and occasionally on the street courses), the main problem is that when she was at her peak, Andretti-Green were embarrassing themselves even more than Williams is right now, and had that team been better, I don't think she'd have just one victory...

Not to mention she's running in NASCAR part-time and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she goes there full-time (despite her publicocrap that says her increasing pace in NASCAR won't hurt her in the IRL...). It's easy to poke and laugh at Danica, and to write her lone victory off to fuel mileage... but if you beat Helio Castroneves in a fuel mileage race, pat yourself on the back, well done.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 12 Apr 2011, 19:16

Cynon wrote:Spoiler Warning That Isn't Really a Spoiler

EJ Viso noobed up again.

I nominate Viso for Indycar Reject of the Year...

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 13 Apr 2011, 22:22

While we have an Indy thread, could I just ask all the Americans out there what it is with Bryan Herta and Laguna Seca? From the results sheet, he only seems to do well there.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 14 Apr 2011, 22:57

slightly off topic, but i found this picture of an indycar(from 2002) that seemed peculiar.

hhmmmmmm....... when i first heard RBR were being sponsored by infiniti, i had the most off center/Deja-Vu feeling.
meh. thought you guys might be interested.
who knows, maybe in 2013 it'll come 'round again.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Apr 2011, 00:37

nome66 wrote:slightly off topic, but i found this picture of an indycar(from 2002) that seemed peculiar.

hhmmmmmm....... when i first heard RBR were being sponsored by infiniti, i had the most off center/Deja-Vu feeling.
meh. thought you guys might be interested.
who knows, maybe in 2013 it'll come 'round again.

Ah yes... Red Bull Cheever Racing. Spent most of their 2002 season bouncing off walls :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 Apr 2011, 08:27

Gotta love those Lotus-inspired yellow wheels!

JohnMLTX · Post by **JohnMLTX** » 15 Apr 2011, 21:34

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:While we have an Indy thread, could I just ask all the Americans out there what it is with Bryan Herta and Laguna Seca? From the results sheet, he only seems to do well there.

I think it's because it's his favorite racetrack and also, besides zanardi, not many other drivers were willing to out-balls him through there.

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 17 Apr 2011, 04:48

Could someone please explain this complicated quali system in terms I can understand? Thanks.

JohnMLTX · Post by **JohnMLTX** » 17 Apr 2011, 05:34

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Could someone please explain this complicated quali system in terms I can understand? Thanks.

No Probalo, bro.

The cars are randomly drawn into 2 groups. From there, the first group gets 15 minutes to set a time. After that, it's the second group's turn.
Then, the top 6 from each group are put in the "Top 12". They go out again, and have 15 minutes to set a time.
After that, the top 6 move on to the "Firestone Fast 6", and have 10 minutes to set a time.

It's not too different from the current F1 system, in that the eliminated cars will start where they lie (the first 2 groups are combined for this purpose), but it is quite a bit more complicated. It took me a while to figure out myself.

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 17 Apr 2011, 05:52

Ah, I think I get it now. Thanks.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 17 Apr 2011, 08:17

dr-baker wrote:
Gotta love Lotus's Cheever-inspired yellow wheels!

Fixed.

I remember posting this like three months ago, but yeah, you usually saw pieces of these cars flying everywhere after they wrecked in 2002...

jpm · Post by **jpm** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:51

Conor Daly just won the Indy Lights race at Long Beach...Future star?

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 17 Apr 2011, 21:12

Spoiler Alert

Marco Andretti is a noob. :evil:

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 17 Apr 2011, 21:18

And he apparently had no bathplug idea...

JohnMLTX · Post by **JohnMLTX** » 17 Apr 2011, 21:23

Spoiler Alert

Ana Beatriz is channeling the spirit of Lucas Di Grassi today.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 17 Apr 2011, 21:25

JohnMLTX wrote:Spoiler Alert

Ana Beatriz is channeling the spirit of Lucas Di Grassi today.

Yeah, but she isn't hitting the walls, unlike di Crashi... but she is very disappointing so far. Granted, she has an awesome teammate, and it IS Dreyer & Reinbold... to whom consistency is a foreign language...

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 17 Apr 2011, 21:49

Cynon wrote:Spoiler Warning That Isn't Really a Spoiler

EJ Viso noobed up again.

...again...

Pinching Danica doesn't work. These are IndyCar drivers, they won't take that kind of crap.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 17 Apr 2011, 21:49

VISO!!!!!!
VISO!!!!!!
VISO!!!!!!