Grand Prix Rejects

AndreaModa wrote:An interesting post I just spotted on Twitter, here's a few shots of 'Rush' the film currently being made about Hunt and Lauda in '76.

Looking pretty sweet I must say!

DOSBoot wrote:We occasionally have movie reviews on this site. So I was curious to know what particular race car related film we like. For me it would be "The Love Bug". Most of the Herbie films are good to watch, but I always like the first one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kgJYMDgDFk

pasta_maldonado wrote:My favourite racing film is "Driven"




Just joking, it's shite

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:I've not still watched it. Is it really so horrible?

Klon wrote: although that holds true for music made by Jacques Villeneuve

Klon wrote:

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:I've not still watched it. Is it really so horrible?

Depends on your approach - if you want a serious racing film, yes it is. If you only want a mind-numbing action film ... WITH CARS ... then you should be fine.

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:

Klon wrote:

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:I've not still watched it. Is it really so horrible?

Depends on your approach - if you want a serious racing film, yes it is. If you only want a mind-numbing action film ... WITH CARS ... then you should be fine.

I understand.

DOSBoot wrote:Pretty much explains it. As long as you don't take it too seriously, then it's not as bad as a lot of people say it is. It's not a great movie, but it's nowhere near Stallone's worst film. I have it on DVD, so I thought it was good enough. But for the casual viewer, I would go the "watch before you buy" approach just to be safe.

pasta_maldonado wrote:My favourite racing film is "Driven"




Just joking, it's shite

eurobrun wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:My favourite racing film is "Driven"




Just joking, it's shite

I have a DVD of Driven, but I have never watched it though.

JeremyMcClean wrote:

eurobrun wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:My favourite racing film is "Driven"




Just joking, it's shite

I have a DVD of Driven, but I have never watched it though.

I saw a used copy of Driven recently. I ran screaming in the opposite direction.

DOSBoot wrote:I got hair on my chest. So I don't feel guilty owning one. I was able to get a used copy for $2.50 at a flea market. Which is probably what the film is worth.

kostas22 wrote:

DOSBoot wrote:I got hair on my chest. So I don't feel guilty owning one. I was able to get a used copy for $2.50 at a flea market. Which is probably what the film is worth.

I watched it for free on the internet (just to see what all the fuss was about)

What I can say without doubt is, there are porn movies with a stronger plot development than Driven. And better acting too.

Pointrox wrote:I've seen it a long time ago. So long, that I totally forgot how these bashed crash scenes looked like. Until I came across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwqQlrb4XIE
Good grief, it's so crass I can't even start to describe it. Gives a few good laughs though

pasta_maldonado wrote:And how does a racing car end up in a lake?

pasta_maldonado wrote:

Pointrox wrote:I've seen it a long time ago. So long, that I totally forgot how these bashed crash scenes looked like. Until I came across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwqQlrb4XIE
Good grief, it's so crass I can't even start to describe it. Gives a few good laughs though

The unrealisticness of them makes me laugh. in the first crash in the video, the car spins into a tyre barrier in front of a wall, then goes through a completely different wall And if some of the crashes actually happened, there would be fatalities. And how does a racing car end up in a lake? What amazes me is someone must have thought 'Wow! hat looks good!

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:

Pointrox wrote:I've seen it a long time ago. So long, that I totally forgot how these bashed crash scenes looked like. Until I came across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwqQlrb4XIE
Good grief, it's so crass I can't even start to describe it. Gives a few good laughs though

The unrealisticness of them makes me laugh. in the first crash in the video, the car spins into a tyre barrier in front of a wall, then goes through a completely different wall And if some of the crashes actually happened, there would be fatalities. And how does a racing car end up in a lake? What amazes me is someone must have thought 'Wow! hat looks good!

Worst of it all was how the one car pitched up into the air, careened through in slow motion, while the other cars breezed past underneath, not in slow motion. How the bathplug did that get past editing?

kostas22 wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:And how does a racing car end up in a lake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmO2aM_1S4Q

midgrid wrote:

kostas22 wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:And how does a racing car end up in a lake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmO2aM_1S4Q

A more obscure example from one of my favourite defunct series.

Captain Hammer wrote:I think the ultimate racing film would actually be a television series. Films are like short stories, but television series are like novels. There's more content, so there's more opportunity to develop characters and themes, even if the budget is smaller. And you get to do a whole lot more with subplots, too. For example:

Season 1 - Introduces the main character, a former racer who was rated good enough to be World Champion, but quit the sport before his time. He is convinced to come back with a brand-new team (the team name and show title would probably be the same thing), where he is partnered with an upstart new rookie. But politics get in the way, and in the middle of the season, the rookie leaves (this is Hamilton and Alonso in 2007, turned up to eleven). He becomes the major antagonist of the season, and narrowly loses the World Championship in the final race - but in a twist ending, his new team successfully manage to get several cars, including the main character, disqualified from the results, and he is crowned World Champion. Significantly, his replacement at the team is found to have the same technical inconsistency as the main character, but the rookie's team never challenges the legality of his car (like McLaren trying to get Nico Rosberg and the BMW Saubers thrown out of the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix to make Hamilton champion, but ignoring Nakajima's car when nakajima finished behind Hamilton).

Season 2 - The battle between the new World Champion and the main character is in full swing, but off the track, the new President of the sport is about to cause trouble. Both he and the World Champion are of the same nationality, and that nationality has been absent from the sport for some time. The President starts manipulating the rules to favour the World Champion, in the hopes of making him a double World Champion (yes, all of this is based on Balestre playing the rulebook to favour Prost). The main character ultimtely wins the World Championship, but the President tries to kick him out of the sport. In protest, all of the teams get together and form a breakway series unless the president leaves (yes, it's 2009 all over again).

Season 3 - The teams win their battle, the main character is crowned World Champion, and he patches up the rift with his former team-mate. But trouble is brewing when the former President comes back and challenges the legality of the sport's ruling body to make legal judgements (like Briatore appealing his ban). Testifying against the organisation, he successfully gets the governing body's charter suspended, triggering an arms race in the sport as teams start spending while the stewards are unable to penalise them. In the middle of all this, a crooked Russian banker steps forward and tries to take the team into receivership, since they borrowed heavily from them (based on Genii borrowing money from Vladimir Antonov to buy Renault). Anarchy rules the sport, but a solution to the stewards' ability to penalise teams and drivers is found. However, the team is on its last legs financially, and its saviour is the President. Who then fires the main character on the eve of the title-deciding race.

pasta_maldonado wrote:

Pointrox wrote:I've seen it a long time ago. So long, that I totally forgot how these bashed crash scenes looked like. Until I came across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwqQlrb4XIE
Good grief, it's so crass I can't even start to describe it. Gives a few good laughs though

The unrealisticness of them makes me laugh. in the first crash in the video, the car spins into a tyre barrier in front of a wall, then goes through a completely different wall

Season 2 - The battle between the new World Champion and the main character is in full swing, but off the track, the new President of the sport is about to cause trouble. Both he and the World Champion are of the same nationality, and that nationality has been absent from the sport for some time. The President starts manipulating the rules to favour the World Champion, in the hopes of making him a double World Champion (yes, all of this is based on Balestre playing the rulebook to favour Prost). The main character ultimtely wins the World Championship, but the President tries to kick him out of the sport. In protest, all of the teams get together and form a breakway series unless the president leaves (yes, it's 2009 all over again).

DanielPT wrote:The old Herbie movies are between my favorites, but my absolute favorite got to be Days of Thunder. I loved that movie when I first saw it. I as a small kid back then and absolutely love everything car related. Later I understood that the movie was, well, let's say not that good, but by then it was too late as it became one cherished item of my infancy. I still see it when I catch it in some obscure movie channel.

Pointrox wrote:I've seen it a long time ago. So long, that I totally forgot how these bashed crash scenes looked like. Until I came across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwqQlrb4XIE
Bloody hell - it's worse than I thought.
Gives a few good laughs though

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Just watched Days of Thunder. I guess you could say it really got to me. Great story, great scenes, great lines, great everything. Someone link me to a film about Group B rally cars and I will kill myself for not being born in time for the 70s/80s (although to be fair the film was released in 1990). Golden Age of Racing.

For some reason Russ Wheeler reminds me of a certain German who likes to point his finger at everybody all the time...