Grand Prix Rejects

kostas22 wrote:Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Wizzie wrote:

kostas22 wrote:Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Would that be the two O'Lauchlan guys?

kostas22 wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

kostas22 wrote:Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Would that be the two O'Lauchlan guys?

No. Not even close.

Replays this weekend please. I will compile the highlights show next week once I've received them all. Oddly, I can't edit the whole thing together until I am sent the slowest time (it's how the in-game editor works...)

Wizzie wrote:Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

kostas22 wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

Indeed. If I use the fastest replay as the reference for the editor it will cut off the slow times.

WaffleCat wrote:

kostas22 wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

Indeed. If I use the fastest replay as the reference for the editor it will cut off the slow times.

Maybe I could help you out by going literally slow on purpose and making mistakes everywhere and then saving the replay.

kostas22 wrote:Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Shadaza wrote:

kostas22 wrote:Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

2 drivers? hmmmm.

Aerond wrote:I´ve spent 1/2 hour trying to find the trick but I didn´t ...

kostas22 wrote:

Aerond wrote:I´ve spent 1/2 hour trying to find the trick but I didn´t ...

Perhaps you have and you're just not doing it properly? I noticed it early on, tried it, wasn't any faster than my normal time, gave up for a while, then tried it again slightly differently and it worked the second time. I don't know...

AndreaModa wrote:So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

AndreaModa wrote:So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

Aerond wrote:

AndreaModa wrote:So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

Aerond wrote:

AndreaModa wrote:So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

kostas22 wrote:

Aerond wrote:

AndreaModa wrote:So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

I thought I had when I did the prologue.

However, seeing as there have now been complaints about the above, I've decided to rescind my shortcuts allowed policy. AndreaModa has a point. It's not the way the map was intended to be driven, and it's against the spirit of the competition. Also, I am partly guilty of copying Shadaza, because his technique was actually better than mine at the alternative solution

Also, it should be known, 'smart jumps' do not come under shortcuts. This is an occurence where time can be saved by using a rise or fall in the road as a launch ramp to cut a single corner. I need to clarify that as I know for a fact there will be some of said jumps in Rally Norway, and possibly other events as well.

Therefore, Shadaza, your fastest time is annulled and instead your quickest standard replay will be used.

At least the prologue isn't for points and we get these sorts of issues dealth with before it ruins someone's title aspirations.

Warren Hughes wrote:Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

kostas22 wrote:

Warren Hughes wrote:Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

I will post the 'cheat sheet' on YouTube. My cheat time was faster than Shadaza's so I'll do mine instead.

Shadaza wrote:

kostas22 wrote:

Warren Hughes wrote:Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

I will post the 'cheat sheet' on YouTube. My cheat time was faster than Shadaza's so I'll do mine instead.

I can tell you it is far more frustrating then going the ordinary way round! The final jump to get back on the circuit is awkward.
Also I have spent about 3 hours after being told my alternative was alright and I only completed 2 "cleanish" laps. My brother spent an hour and could not get a lap in.

I now have a clarification to ask. The jump at the 30 second mark can be adjusted so instead you angle yourself left, accelerate in to the banking and leap back on to the circuit at the 4th checkpoint on the track, it has no practical advantage besides looking spectacular. Is it legal?

TMRRC Commission wrote:TMMRC SPORTING REGULATIONS 2015 - AMENDMENT

The TMRRC has retroactively applied a rule amendment to tackle the use of alternative routing, with the creation of the following;

Section 3.1
Competitors must complete checkpoints in the order they were designed to be completed. This means, if a track links directly between two checkpoints, said two checkpoints must be completed by following the pre-existing route, rather than moving off-course, regardless of whether it gives an advantage or otherwise.

kostas22 wrote:The results for the 2015 TMRRC Prologue are in! Highlights will be available on YouTube next week, followed by a new challange on the 23rd April.

Shadaza wrote:How on Earth did you do that lap time

Shadaza wrote:To achieve that lap you have to reverse at the start, go up a small hill and on to the track, you emerge at the 2nd checkpoint after 7.5 seconds, putting you nearly 20 seconds up at this stage, you then drive round the track normally until you reach the speed boosters where you aim at a small dirt mound to launch back to checkpoint 1, from there you turn around and climb a dune back on to the track.

Warren Hughes wrote:I'm not as far back as I thought I would be. But seriously, 1:41 is just ridiculous. Actually, I would suggest for the fairness of competition that we use as few tracks of Kostas' own design as possible as it's reasonable to suggest that the designer of the track would have some sort of advantage in terms of knowing how to do it quickly.

the Masked Lapwing wrote:I didn't come last? Sweet.

kostas22 wrote:Also, seeing as it is technically possible with not much extra effort, there will be full onboard race replays (with opponents visible) available for every driver. Yes, you can watch the race onboard all 14 cars that raced so you can see what the trackside cameras can't pick up.

Brad Jacobs wrote:Well all I can say is that a load of these regular drivers in the main championship are way over-rated! To be only 2.5 seconds off the leading JRRC car as well is encouraging, and to finish in the top ten is a major surprise for us all at PowerSurge. I'm confident with this result that we can have a successful season, and perhaps put a few of these supposedly more experienced drivers in the right place, though I think the JRRC title overall may be tricky.

Fabian Rei wrote:This session was very good for us here at the team.I know my time could have been improved,especially after that little booster jump,but it is all good.In fact,third in class could set the tempo for the rest of the season.Looking forward to Monte-Carlo in first race.Also,it a big mystery how other drivers can end up 2 seconds behind me and somehow someone end up 4 second ahead.The field very spread out but other rally should close gap down.We will wait and see.

tristan1117 wrote:Hooray! I'm not last! Peter Senerson should probably consider a switch to the JRRC though.