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Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:25
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:
Phoenix wrote:But I don't get the point. Why would Aerond, for instance, blow 1000 credits buying the Chrysler engine for it to have only 750hp when the base power for that engine is 770hp? Not that it's going to prevent me from sleeping tonight, but I am curious to know why.


Because he's generous I guess. Plus he made it clear he was going to wait until the frenzy had died down before making his call so he was always going to be compromised to an extent.


Well, my first aim was to get the Ford Zetec-R, but I was on a 3G connection when the market opened and then my message took longer to arrive than Wizzie´s, so I decided to go for the Chrysler instead. 750 Bhp, with the chance on investing on Mark Dagnall´s race pace should be enough; there will be chances for a better chassis in the future; and with money coming through Mignolet during the season I can upgrade the reliability if needed.


Funnily enough, the Chrysler was also my first backup in case you go to the Zetec first. I actually figured out about a week in advance that DanielPT was always going to go for the Zetec as well so one of the top teams was always going to miss out. Whilst overall, the Zetec is better now, I think the Chrysler is a better long-term prospect.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:32
by Aerospeed
The Fox josses Aston buyout rumours
"This is nothing but rubbish," commented the majority owner of ArrowTech. "We're already rich enough as is and we already get more money from Al Faisal. Besides, why would I give the team to a rich manufacturer? We don't need any more manufacturers in the sport and besides, they do nothing but spend their way to victory anyways. You don't win with an open checkbook."

Brett Johnston, Aston boss, slightly furious over The Fox's comments
In regarding the above news article about The Fox calling Aston Martin "open checkbooks," Aston Martin boss Brett Johnston was irate over The Fox's comments. "We are not open checkbooks, although we may seem rich, we use the money wisely unlike teams like Toyota F1 when they put their money hiring idiots that do nothing anyway, like Half Schumacher and that Fernandes guy."

Half Schumacher found arrested in London after apparently trying to attack Johnston
Yesterday morning the brother of the 7-time world champion, and Half himself, a grand-prix winner and an unsuccessful DTM driver was arrested this morning after attacking Brett Johnston, the Aston Martin Motor Racing boss, with a candlestick, a baseball bat, and a beer bottle. Schumacher was not drunk at the scene. His motives are unknown, though police investigations point to the above article that has Johnston calling Schumacher an "idiot," among other things. Johnston was not available to comment.

ArrowTech looks "good," says Acuri
Just recently this morning ArrowTech technical director and former team owner Andrea Acuri says this year looks promising for ArrowTech. "We have a good chassis, and we certainly have a good deal of engine support from Renault, who supplied the engines for my team last year. We also get a good influx of money from Al Faisal, so that should help fund our team as well. And we've also put up stronger security around the base to prevent the Danish Terrorists from breaking into the base again."

Bosevic likes his car (so far)
ArrowTech driver Mirko Bosevic says he likes the development of his car. With the ArrowTech AT-05 nearly done, the team is very optimistic about the season. Says Bosevic, "I think we'll qualify all the races this season like we did last season!

EDITORS NOTE:
On our previous news article, "Ralf Schumacher found arrested in London after apparently trying to attack Johnston," we made the error by misspelling Ralf Schumacher's name as "Half Schumacher." The writer did not intend this to occur and we regret the misspelling.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:42
by Aerond
DGNgineering will spend 250 credits in Mark Dagnall´s race grip. That leaves us with 100 credits

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:44
by tristan1117
Holy crap, what a convoluted mess I've walked into. Um, Boxtel would like to sell its Simtek chassis in favor of the Larrousse LH93. I believe we have more than enough credits for the operation. Once we by a new chassis, all the previous updates are revoked, right?

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:44
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:DGNgineering will spend 250 credits in Mark Dagnall´s race grip. That leaves us with 100 credits


DId you get my email for MRT's upgrades in 2015?

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:46
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:Ok, so this is a summary of market operations up to now (Wizzie, please check out for the Chassis and engine list page, our reading of the market operations should match anyway):

TROPICO --
Sell both chassis and engine and buys Minardi M187 and JuddGV10 -- Credits left: 220

AERORACING
Sell Ford DFR engine and gets Isuzu -- Credits left: 130

SIMPSON
Buy Onyx and YamahaV10 -- Credits left: 100

ARROWTECH
Sell Ligier and buy BenettonB191 -- Credits left: 300

SUNSHINE
Buys Ford Zetec-R -- Credits left: 320

HRT
Sell both chassis and engine and buy Rial ARC and Isuzu for 1000 credits -- Credits left: 252

ALITALIA
Sell chassis to Shonan for 250 and buy Jordan 191 -- Credits left: 165

SHONAN
Sell LolaT97 and buy Forti off Alitalia for 250 -- Credits left: 510

PROSPEC
Sell both chassis and engine, buy LigierJS33 and Peugeot engine -- Credits left: 60

KINGFISHER
Sell engine and buy Peugeot -- Credits left: 160

AUTODYNAMICS
Buy BrabhamBT60B and Ilmor -- Credits left: 100

MRT
Buy Ford Zetec-R engine -- Credits left: 450

DGNGINEERING
Buy Chrysler engine -- Credits left: 350

MECHA
Sell DFZ engine, buy Ford HBIV -- Credits left: 115

That´s it for now :)


Sounds about right. I can'tfinish editing the page at school however because the wiki's blocked :|

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:49
by Aerond
MRT bought upgrades for a value of 300 credits.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:50
by Aerond
tristan1117 wrote:Holy crap, what a convoluted mess I've walked into. Um, Boxtel would like to sell its Simtek chassis in favor of the Larrousse LH93. I believe we have more than enough credits for the operation. Once we by a new chassis, all the previous updates are revoked, right?


Only reliability upgrades. Power upgrades are associated to your engine.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 23:58
by Aerond
tristan1117 wrote:Holy crap, what a convoluted mess I've walked into. Um, Boxtel would like to sell its Simtek chassis in favor of the Larrousse LH93. I believe we have more than enough credits for the operation. Once we by a new chassis, all the previous updates are revoked, right?


Boxtel has 410 credits now.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:09
by Aerond
HRT bough upgrades for 200 credits, they have now 52;
Scuderia Alitalia bought upgrades for 60 credits, they have now 105

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:11
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:HRT bough upgrades for 200 credits, they have now 52;


And yet the bastard can't be bothered to show up at school today.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:14
by Aerond
MRT bought upgrades for 150, leaving them with 0 credits.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:15
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:MRT bought upgrades for 150, leaving them with 0 credits.


So what did Lappy spend the 150 credits on?

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:16
by Aerond
Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:MRT bought upgrades for 150, leaving them with 0 credits.


So what did Lappy spend the 150 credits on?


Race grip

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:21
by Aerond
Upgrading Update; From now on, team owners will be able to Spend quantities of 1Credit as for;

1 Credit -- 10 Reliability Points
1 Credit -- 2 Points of Qualifying or Race Grip for Drivers

Instead of a minimum of:

5 Credits -- 50 Reliability Points
10 Credits -- 20 Points of Qualifying or Race Grip for Drivers

Engine upgrading stay the same: 10 Credits - 1BHP

Thank you.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:26
by Aerond
Scuderia Alitalia bought upgrades for a value of 5 credits, leaving them with 100 credits.
Arrowtech bought upgrades for 160 credits. Credits left: 140

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 06:12
by RonDenisDeletraz
Someone needs to edit the wiki, I now have the Brabham BT60B chassis, not the Fomet anymore.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 06:20
by TomWazzleshaw
eurobrun wrote:Someone needs to edit the wiki, I now have the Brabham BT60B chassis, not the Fomet anymore.


Already did. Also updated Mecha and Boxtel's current combinations. The only team were yet to hear from is Dofasco but if we get no response, they keep their package by default.

I'll do a pre-season review based on what's happened once I can get my head around whose jumped to where in the pecking order

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 06:40
by Shizuka
kostas22 wrote:I hope the market never operates like this ever again. It is a total farce. It isn't even first come first served. It's first come first whoever the server decides to accept posts from first.


So maybe sleeping was a better idea after all... Thanks kostas for the Forti. :D

Now I could tell you that I originally wanted to buy either the Rial or the Onyx.
Now, I'd like to know how the Forti's reliability stands. I have 510 credits, so I might invest into that later on.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 06:52
by TomWazzleshaw
Shizuka wrote:
kostas22 wrote:I hope the market never operates like this ever again. It is a total farce. It isn't even first come first served. It's first come first whoever the server decides to accept posts from first.


So maybe sleeping was a better idea after all... Thanks kostas for the Forti. :D

Now I could tell you that I originally wanted to buy either the Rial or the Onyx.
Now, I'd like to know how the Forti's reliability stands. I have 510 credits, so I might invest into that later on.


Do you really want to know how big a pile of excrement Kostas ended up giving you? :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 06:53
by Shizuka
No. It was my only possibility to have a better chassis. Period. The other one was more unreliable.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 06:59
by tommykl
Gillet announce engine rebadging deal with Tropico!

After Tropico announced that they would also use the Judd GV10, they expressed their interest in Gillet's authorisation to rebadge the Judd engine (also used by Gillet) to Gillet.

Tony Gillet has accepted Tropico's offer for a rebadging, and for Tasmania, and indeed the whole season, Nathan Scott and Darren Older Jr will drive a Tropico-Gillet. Could this be the start of a long-term partnership?

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:02
by The Lukas
And here we go:
Dofasco Racing I am selling both Lola Chassis and Ford Engine,that move gives me 325 additional credits.
My a budget of 725 credits which allows me to purchase the following:
Chassis:Simtek S951(450 cr)
Engine:Judd CV(250 cr)
My budget after purchaing Chassis and Engine of 75 Credits

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:10
by TomWazzleshaw
Shizuka wrote:No. It was my only possibility to have a better chassis. Period. The other one was more unreliable.


Except that chassis moved you precisely nowhere on the pecking order anyway. :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:13
by RonDenisDeletraz
Wizzie wrote:
Shizuka wrote:No. It was my only possibility to have a better chassis. Period. The other one was more unreliable.


Except that chassis moved you precisely nowhere on the pecking order anyway. :lol:


Speaking of the pecking order, where roughly would Autodynamics be.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:15
by TomWazzleshaw
eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Shizuka wrote:No. It was my only possibility to have a better chassis. Period. The other one was more unreliable.


Except that chassis moved you precisely nowhere on the pecking order anyway. :lol:


Speaking of the pecking order, where roughly would Autodynamics be.


Based on original stats alone, around where Gillet is.

That might sound impressive, except Gillet have fallen from fourth to fourteenth in the space of one day :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:19
by tommykl
Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Except that chassis moved you precisely nowhere on the pecking order anyway. :lol:


Speaking of the pecking order, where roughly would Autodynamics be.


Based on original stats alone, around where Gillet is.

That might sound impressive, except Gillet have fallen from fourth to fourteenth in the space of one day :lol:

Shut it you :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:31
by AdrianSutil
After having some sleep I'd like to apologise for my ranting last night. Bad day, bad evening and crap Internet made me rage a bit.

Anyway, having taken a quick look at the wiki now it's been updated, I think it may be very close between teams from 6th to 16th/17th. A lot of similar engines have been chosen so it'll depend where people go next. Autodynamics look to have done fairly well tbh whilst Dofasco have moved sideways so they might be the perennial backmarkers this year. As for us, a conservative chassis won't help much, so I'm putting all my hopes and dreams on the Peugeot's grunt to move us up the order.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:44
by TomWazzleshaw
AdrianSutil wrote:After having some sleep I'd like to apologise for my ranting last night. Bad day, bad evening and crap Internet made me rage a bit.

Anyway, having taken a quick look at the wiki now it's been updated, I think it may be very close between teams from 6th to 16th/17th. A lot of similar engines have been chosen so it'll depend where people go next. Autodynamics look to have done fairly well tbh whilst Dofasco have moved sideways so they might be the perennial backmarkers this year. As for us, a conservative chassis won't help much, so I'm putting all my hopes and dreams on the Peugeot's grunt to move us up the order.


Guess what? That Peugeot engine and conservative chassis moved you pretty much to the top of said midfield.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:47
by the Masked Lapwing
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:After having some sleep I'd like to apologise for my ranting last night. Bad day, bad evening and crap Internet made me rage a bit.

Anyway, having taken a quick look at the wiki now it's been updated, I think it may be very close between teams from 6th to 16th/17th. A lot of similar engines have been chosen so it'll depend where people go next. Autodynamics look to have done fairly well tbh whilst Dofasco have moved sideways so they might be the perennial backmarkers this year. As for us, a conservative chassis won't help much, so I'm putting all my hopes and dreams on the Peugeot's grunt to move us up the order.


Guess what? That Peugeot engine and conservative chassis moved you pretty much to the top of said midfield.


You need to post this pecking order, so when you are wrong everyone can laugh at you :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:48
by TomWazzleshaw
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:After having some sleep I'd like to apologise for my ranting last night. Bad day, bad evening and crap Internet made me rage a bit.

Anyway, having taken a quick look at the wiki now it's been updated, I think it may be very close between teams from 6th to 16th/17th. A lot of similar engines have been chosen so it'll depend where people go next. Autodynamics look to have done fairly well tbh whilst Dofasco have moved sideways so they might be the perennial backmarkers this year. As for us, a conservative chassis won't help much, so I'm putting all my hopes and dreams on the Peugeot's grunt to move us up the order.


Guess what? That Peugeot engine and conservative chassis moved you pretty much to the top of said midfield.


You need to post this pecking order, so when you are wrong everyone can laugh at you :lol:


I know it's going to be completely wrong but still, it's a guideline to work from. You better hope it's completely wrong anyway as you're pretty much screwed otherwise :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:52
by Shizuka
Wizzie wrote:
Shizuka wrote:No. It was my only possibility to have a better chassis. Period. The other one was more unreliable.


Except that chassis moved you precisely nowhere on the pecking order anyway. :lol:


Sorry, but either this, or the Lola chassis, I was screwed from the beginning.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 07:56
by TomWazzleshaw
Shizuka wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Shizuka wrote:No. It was my only possibility to have a better chassis. Period. The other one was more unreliable.


Except that chassis moved you precisely nowhere on the pecking order anyway. :lol:


Sorry, but either this, or the Lola chassis, I was screwed from the beginning.


Therefore, you should have taken my advice and upgraded the engine to the HB IV spec as well. :lol:

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 08:05
by Shizuka
With the T97 chassis, wouldn't have helped much. At least it's a better chassis - now to prequalify once all season, and it's mission complete.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 08:22
by AdrianSutil
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:After having some sleep I'd like to apologise for my ranting last night. Bad day, bad evening and crap Internet made me rage a bit.

Anyway, having taken a quick look at the wiki now it's been updated, I think it may be very close between teams from 6th to 16th/17th. A lot of similar engines have been chosen so it'll depend where people go next. Autodynamics look to have done fairly well tbh whilst Dofasco have moved sideways so they might be the perennial backmarkers this year. As for us, a conservative chassis won't help much, so I'm putting all my hopes and dreams on the Peugeot's grunt to move us up the order.


Guess what? That Peugeot engine and conservative chassis moved you pretty much to the top of said midfield.

I wish. I'd like to be close to Prospec as they have the same engine. But to qualify regularly is what we are aiming at.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 08:24
by DemocalypseNow
Don't know where I'll finish and don't care. All my efforts are focused on 2016, the arrival of the Chosen One to F1RWRS. I must have the best possible base package ready for Andrej. The shitebox Cossie HB I have right now will not suffice.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 08:26
by RonDenisDeletraz
kostas22 wrote:Don't know where I'll finish and don't care. All my efforts are focused on 2016, the arrival of the Chosen One to F1RWRS. I must have the best possible base package ready for Andrej. The shitebox Cossie HB I have right now will not suffice.


You are wasting your time, he won't have the same ridiculous stats he had in the F1RWRS.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 08:28
by DemocalypseNow
eurobrun wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Don't know where I'll finish and don't care. All my efforts are focused on 2016, the arrival of the Chosen One to F1RWRS. I must have the best possible base package ready for Andrej. The shitebox Cossie HB I have right now will not suffice.


You are wasting your time, he won't have the same ridiculous stats he had in the F1RWRS.

There is always David Koczo in the other seat, one of the best in RWRS. If the car is good he'll be right up there.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 09:09
by TomWazzleshaw
AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:After having some sleep I'd like to apologise for my ranting last night. Bad day, bad evening and crap Internet made me rage a bit.

Anyway, having taken a quick look at the wiki now it's been updated, I think it may be very close between teams from 6th to 16th/17th. A lot of similar engines have been chosen so it'll depend where people go next. Autodynamics look to have done fairly well tbh whilst Dofasco have moved sideways so they might be the perennial backmarkers this year. As for us, a conservative chassis won't help much, so I'm putting all my hopes and dreams on the Peugeot's grunt to move us up the order.


Guess what? That Peugeot engine and conservative chassis moved you pretty much to the top of said midfield.

I wish. I'd like to be close to Prospec as they have the same engine. But to qualify regularly is what we are aiming at.

Actually, for the second time today, I have to correct you. That Peugeot engine has actually had a much greater effect that I thought it would. My jaw literally dropped to the floor when I saw just how competitive you'd be on base stats alone (Then it dropped even further when I saw just what the hell the muppets over at Aeroracing managed to do :lol: ). Bear in mind though this is all based on base stats alone as trying to figure in upgrades will be too time consuming.

Re: F1RWRS -- 2015 Season

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 09:21
by DanielPT
I reckon that staying put with that Footwork chassis might be the downfall of Sunshine (thanks to SuperAguri :P). Still, that is one changeable thing for 2016!