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Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 12:13
by Aguaman
Miguel98 wrote:2005 system?
Hum.... No. One lap qualifying only please. bathplug AGREGGATE SYSTEMS.
Ew
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 12:26
by dr-baker
This qualm saga is getting ridiculous. It's not like there's any other Motorsport series that I would like to follow instead, like BTCC, Indycar, FE, etc (has F1 considered FE's qually system? That works.)
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 13:13
by Meatwad
The aggregate qualifying is quite a nonsensical idea. It would only make qualifying more confusing for casual viewers, not add any excitement. Mercedes, Ferrari and the other top teams would just do two flying laps rather than one, and nothing would change for the mid-grid teams and backmarkers. Still it's much better than the current system so if we can't have the old qualifying back, I'm supporting the aggregate system.
To be honest, though, this is just one more thing to show that Todt, Bernie and co. don't understand or care about what the drivers, teams or fans want. The worst thing about this, and the reason why I'm talking about the death of F1, is that you never know what terrible ideas they'll come up with next time. Perhaps the next change will ruin the races. Someone jokingly suggested Trump to take over from Ecclestone if he loses the election. I say bring him on! As crazy as he is, at least he knows how to do business.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 13:30
by Paul Hayes
I don't want to jinx anything, but - based on absolutely nothing whatsoever - I am optimistic that Hamilton won't win today. Admittedly, Rosberg repeatedly winning would quickly become as dull as Hamilton walking away with the title, but hopefully Ferrari can not shoot themselves in the foot this week and take the fight for the win right to the end of the race and make it exciting.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 13:32
by Waris
Why don't we do something like Bump Day in the US? That's almost always exciting isn't it? Everybody gets to set a first laptime that counts, and then you get a certain amount of time, or laps, to bump people down, where the driver in last gets eliminated after some amount of time. It would be better if they had 2 minutes instead of 1m30s to set a laptime though. 1m30s is not even enough to complete a lap on many tracks.
Alternatively, why not have one big hour-long knockout session, like the current system but without Q1, Q2, Q3, and with the condition that the last, say, 8 drivers have to be out on track continuously for the last 10 minutes until they get eliminated? That way we avoid people coming back in before the clock runs out.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 13:44
by sswishbone
My feeling on what an aggregate qualifying will be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg9OBS2xGGo
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:01
by Aguaman
Might not be that bad?
Being positive.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:02
by Aislabie
Meatwad wrote:Trump
A populist egomaniac media whore would be a slight improvement on a senile egomaniac media whore.
But for what it's worth, I'd say a 25% random-grid sprint race to decide the Sunday grid, with DNFs to do a Winkelhock and start from the pit lane.
Aguaman wrote:Might not be that bad?
Being positive.
Remember last time they tried aggregate lap times in 2005? It got dropped after like two rounds because it confused the hell out of everyone.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:04
by Aguaman
But to be fair on this proposal compared to 2005. 2005 was done on both Saturday and Sunday.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:23
by Bobby Doorknobs
It's funny how the whole ethos behind qualifying has gone from proving you're fast enough over one lap to compete in the race to creating some sort of drama on Saturday so the race on Sunday will be even more dramatic. Personally, I don't see the need for it; qualifying almost never results in the grid remaining the same from lights to flag. Sure, the drivers at the top of the field usually stay there, but they would still probably end up winning even if they started in the midfield.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:26
by Paul Hayes
"I am allowed to have my own opinions!"
Ouch!
Had to feel a bit sorry for Steve Jones at the receiving end of that Susie Woolf jab there - he did probably deserve it, although I'm sure he didn't mean to come across quite as he did!
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:27
by sswishbone
The only discipline where aggregate qualifying makes any sense is sportscars where you have more than one driver. That makes sense, all of their times together equals their spot on the grid. Why is this being considering for individuals?
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 14:30
by sswishbone
Lol signs saying 'no photography, no filming' you go Channel 4 :-p
What the hell with this gridwalk? Is Bernie deliberately trying to make himself even less likeable? Also didn't like how DC asked Webber if he had anybody Webber said 'no it's pretty quiet' and cameraman was following Grosjean! Why not nab him?
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:02
by Paul Hayes
Oh dear. I don't think that was in Ferrari's strategy!
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:02
by RAK
Well, there goes some of our chance of seeing a good battle at the front.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:03
by Londoner
Good win, Mercedes.
WHAT THE bathplug IS THIS FIRST LAP?!
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:04
by sswishbone
Oooh where's my earlier youtube video! Dear oh dear that messes things up big time!
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:05
by Aguaman
Lewis, Lewis, Lewis.
Unlucky to be fair.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:06
by Aguaman
So much action.
Tilke tracks for the win. lol
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:06
by Paul Hayes
Does anyone actually fancy finishing this race...?
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:07
by sswishbone
East Londoner wrote:Good win, Mercedes.
WHAT THE bathplug IS THIS FIRST LAP?!
You were saying? lol
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:07
by sswishbone
Have I accidentally tuned in to a video game stream of Destruction Derby 2?
Werlhein 13th!! Awesome
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:09
by Aguaman
I'm all for terrible qualifying if we get fun races though.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:11
by Aguaman
In important news. Look who's 8th.
GUTIERREZ
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:15
by Aguaman
There goes Button and Fernando is like "Eugh"
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:15
by Paul Hayes
A shame for Button, he looked to be doing quite well.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:18
by sswishbone
Button was motoring along strongly, still Vandorne is in there, points finish? that'd be nice
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:18
by Aguaman
DT for Bottas.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:20
by sswishbone
That's very harsh in my opinion, Hamilton did a very late turn, it was a lazy attempt but not worth a drive through
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:21
by Aguaman
Awww not Gutierrez
Also go bathplug off Crofty.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:25
by sswishbone
Err... Guys... How did Vandorne pass a Mercedes powered car that had DRS in a straightline, without DRS?
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:28
by AxelP800
This race is just too fun that I don't even have time to post/say something. Manor points pls
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:36
by Aguaman
It's more amazing that Kimi isn't being a deadbeat teammate.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:43
by Aguaman
GRSJNNN
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:43
by Paul Hayes
Bravo Grosjean, excellent stuff.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:46
by sw3ishida
sswishbone wrote:Have I accidentally tuned in to a video game stream of Destruction Derby 2?
Somebody else was thinking the same thing!
Loving Grosjean's charge, faster tyre or not.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:46
by Paul Hayes
Every time they show that Red Bull pit camera, I am convinced the thing is going to scrape my chin as it pulls away.
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 15:52
by sswishbone
Hamilon in early from Medium stint, is it just me or is wear not much different?
Bathplug, Grosjean anti-stall issue
Dammit another Haas pit-stop problem, something in the desert air?
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 16:22
by razta
#LewisGibernau anyone?
Re: 2016 Bahrain Grand Prix
Posted: 03 Apr 2016, 16:38
by Aguaman
VANDOORNE SCORES
Also 5th for Grosjean.