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Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 12:52
by TomWazzleshaw
AndreaModa wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Yeah Wizzie, I'm fine with this NC race to go ahead now, but for 2015, I want both this and the F3RWRS to run at the same pace as the F1RWRS. It's just too much hassle otherwise trying to figure out what's going on, and it just pisses everyone off which isn't very nice for you or for the series.


I understand but personallly I would find it frustrating having no races for all three series because one series is holding the other two up.


Patience is a virtue. I'd rather have an easy to follow, well organised and structured season than the mess we have had for the 2014 season with people constantly being confused about driver availability, eligibility to race in a certain series, etc, etc.


Once Aerond announces next year's calender however, it wouldn't take too long to make a combined 2015 calender on the wiki like we did for this year (Abit, several months too late to be of any real use :lol: ) which should alleviate that problem completely.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 13:41
by Klon
AndreaModa wrote:Patience is a virtue. I'd rather have an easy to follow, well organised and structured season than the mess we have had for the 2014 season with people constantly being confused about driver availability, eligibility to race in a certain series, etc, etc.


I can only agree with this - and it's not like we only have the RWRS: this board is big enough for something to always happen so we can afford to be patient here. Furthermore, it is not like we do not have to get used to things in RWRS taking some time and us needing patience, because that is what will happen in a few years real-life time from now on. aerond is only ahead of wizzie and TLMW who most likely will leave school someday and once you are a student or even working, your time for stuff like this will be reduced at a significant rate, this I can tell you from experience. That would logically lead to things progressing at a slower rate and when we insist on order now nobody will moan about things progressing slower when that inevitably becomes the case. Furthermore, a combined calender amends for a bit, but not for absolutely everything since many driver decisions are made rather spontaneously and therefore you don't always think of checking that document.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 14:11
by AndreaModa
Yeah, the calender is useful, but by no means a solution. Look at dr-baker and his driver Martin McFry recently in the F1RWRS to see what I mean. Not everyone uses the wiki, and even less actually edit it. I know I'm not the only one raising this issue, you only have to go back through each series' thread to see a whole load of different members complaining about this issue.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 14:22
by dr-baker
AndreaModa wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Yeah Wizzie, I'm fine with this NC race to go ahead now, but for 2015, I want both this and the F3RWRS to run at the same pace as the F1RWRS. It's just too much hassle otherwise trying to figure out what's going on, and it just pisses everyone off which isn't very nice for you or for the series.


I understand but personallly I would find it frustrating having no races for all three series because one series is holding the other two up.


Patience is a virtue. I'd rather have an easy to follow, well organised and structured season than the mess we have had for the 2014 season with people constantly being confused about driver availability, eligibility to race in a certain series, etc, etc.

And I most certainly was confused with how the calendars fitted together...

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 15:19
by Nuppiz
I personally feel that a more relaxed pace in the RWRS series is a good thing. While it may frustrate those who could run their series at a much higher pace (including myself), I simply don't want all of our series going too far in the future. The next season will already be three years ahead of real life, which I think is pretty much the limit to avoid having too much asynchronization. Besides, now that I know the average pace at which the F1RWRS season unfolds, I can have longer breaks between the races in RoLFS (instead of having one GP/week) and put more time into highlights videos etc.

We also have to remember that Aerond has a lot more to do in his spare time than just run F1RWRS (unlike some of us, he actually has life outside the computer), so unless someone with a similar technical skill with GP2 wants to start running the series (or changes to yet another game to simulate the races), we have no choice but to be patient.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 17:26
by Aerospeed
Nuppiz wrote:I personally feel that a more relaxed pace in the RWRS series is a good thing. While it may frustrate those who could run their series at a much higher pace (including myself), I simply don't want all of our series going too far in the future. The next season will already be three years ahead of real life, which I think is pretty much the limit to avoid having too much asynchronization. Besides, now that I know the average pace at which the F1RWRS season unfolds, I can have longer breaks between the races in RoLFS (instead of having one GP/week) and put more time into highlights videos etc.

We also have to remember that Aerond has a lot more to do in his spare time than just run F1RWRS (unlike some of us, he actually has life outside the computer), so unless someone with a similar technical skill with GP2 wants to start running the series (or changes to yet another game to simulate the races), we have no choice but to be patient.


And proving with my theory that F2RWRS and F3RWRS were going too bloody fast!

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 22:56
by TomWazzleshaw
I'm starting to get the impression that all you guys are blaming me for running ahead, in which case I refer you to this post by the big cheese himself.

You guys just made it relevant by swapping drivers every second bloody weekend. Seriously, who promotes an F3RWRS driver into the F1RWRS after one race? *Cough*DrBaker*Cough* :P

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 01:45
by TomWazzleshaw
Theo Rulboke, Chief Steward wrote:Incident between Cars 1 (Melrose) and 19 (Cameron) at the start of Qualifying is to be investigated after the session.


Long story short, Melrose was being Melrose again :roll:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 01:51
by RonDenisDeletraz
Wizzie wrote:
Theo Rulboke, Chief Steward wrote:Incident between Cars 1 (Melrose) and 19 (Cameron) at the start of Qualifying is to be investigated after the session.


Long story short, Melrose was being Melrose again :roll:


Jason Hamilton wrote:Typical... :roll:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 02:34
by DemocalypseNow
Maybe time to do a reprint of the 'Ban Joel Melrose' posters :lol:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 02:36
by TomWazzleshaw
kostas22 wrote:Maybe time to do a reprint of the 'Ban Joel Melrose' posters :lol:


At this rate, Daniel wouldn't tolerate him long enough to let that happen :lol:

Man oh man, your commentary on the race is going to be interesting :lol:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 02:57
by TomWazzleshaw
2014 Luxembourg Invitational - Qualifying

The incumbent MRT-BMW combination locked out the front row, to nobody's great surprise as they have two renowned qualifying specialists in their cars. Joel Melrose's first lap of the session was good enough for pole as his vastly more experienced teammate Nick Nurmester came within 4 thousands of a second of taking pole from the Australian. F3RWRS champion Michael Cameron put his Simpson car third on the grid but it came at a high price after having to switch to the backup car after Melrose helped write off their main car at turn 1 as Cameron's car flipped after a low speed collision, which led to even more criticism aimed at Lola's way as the F2RWRS Commission aims to open up the chassis market at the end of 2015. Lancia were the best of the new engine suppliers with Dorien Lamberigts hauling her older brother's race car to 5th on the grid whilst the two works Lancias were at the back end of the top 10. Whilst the MRTs are on the front row, Michael Cameron is expected to be the favourite for the race win.

1. J. Melrose (MRT-BMW): 1:41.711
2. N. Nurmester (MRT-BMW): +0.004
3. M. Cameron (Simpson-BMW): +0.569
4. J-V. Albertini (Gillet-BMW): +0.773
5. D. Lamberigts (RonDen-Zastava): +0.805
6. C. Simpson (Young Lions-Holden): +0.865
7. C. O'Heagan (Jones-Aston Martin): +0.961
8. D. Melville (Dofasco-Audi): +1.116
9. A. Lucarelli (Alitalia-Lancia): +1.117
10. L. Crescenzi (Alitalia-Lancia): +1.131
11. B. Ristic (Hydook-Aston Martin): +1.197
12. S. Garfunkel (RonDen-Zastava): +1.272
13. R. Zimmer (Young Lions-Holden): +1.352
14. E. Swerts (Gillet-BMW): +1.362
15. S. Mondlane (Beirao-BMW): +1.503
16. H. King (AeroRacing-Audi): +1.721
17. M. Van De Schoot (Simpson-BMW): +1.795
18. C. Jancker (Hydook-Aston Martin): +1.911
19. R. Suoto Maior (AeroRacing-Audi): +2.036
20. A. Lilly (Jones-Aston Martin): +2.326
21. W. Cieslar (Dofasco-Audi): +1.435
22. J. Maria Cabral (Beirao-BMW): +2.110

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 03:12
by DemocalypseNow
Well MRT definitely cheated then... :roll:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 03:16
by TomWazzleshaw
kostas22 wrote:Well MRT definitely cheated then... :roll:


Well, Cameron got past the pair of them at the start and now Nurmester's starting to fall down the field like a rock so it all balances out in the end... maybe.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 03:19
by RonDenisDeletraz
Wizzie wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Well MRT definitely cheated then... :roll:


Well, Cameron got past the pair of them at the start and now Nurmester's starting to fall down the field like a rock so it all balances out in the end... maybe.


Is Van de Schoot still at the back.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 03:34
by TomWazzleshaw
eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Well MRT definitely cheated then... :roll:


Well, Cameron got past the pair of them at the start and now Nurmester's starting to fall down the field like a rock so it all balances out in the end... maybe.


Is Van de Schoot still at the back.


Actually, he's solidly running in the midfield now amongst the likes of Garfunkel and the Beirao/AeroRacing cars.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 04:42
by tommykl
I put a supposed pay-driver in the second car to prepare him for the season alongside the driver who is to share my main car. The pay-driver is ahead by quite a margin. There seems to be a problem here... :P

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 04:56
by TomWazzleshaw
tommykl wrote:I put a supposed pay-driver in the second car to prepare him for the season alongside the driver who is to share my main car. The pay-driver is ahead by quite a margin. There seems to be a problem here... :P


Thing is said pay-driver falls into the Petrov category and is actually quite talented. Plus Swerts has been off-form all weekend.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 05:26
by tommykl
Wizzie wrote:
tommykl wrote:I put a supposed pay-driver in the second car to prepare him for the season alongside the driver who is to share my main car. The pay-driver is ahead by quite a margin. There seems to be a problem here... :P


Thing is said pay-driver falls into the Petrov category and is actually quite talented. Plus Swerts has been off-form all weekend.

I get that, but I just can't seem to have any sort of luck with my drivers in the feeder series :|

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 12:46
by DemocalypseNow
tommykl wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
tommykl wrote:I put a supposed pay-driver in the second car to prepare him for the season alongside the driver who is to share my main car. The pay-driver is ahead by quite a margin. There seems to be a problem here... :P


Thing is said pay-driver falls into the Petrov category and is actually quite talented. Plus Swerts has been off-form all weekend.

I get that, but I just can't seem to have any sort of luck with my drivers in the feeder series :|

So do what I did, tie down someone else's talented driver to a multi-year contract with your team. Andrej Kremnicky is the best F2RWRS driver on the grid and he's already guaranteed driving for me until 2017 :P

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 15:58
by AndreaModa
Wizzie wrote:I'm starting to get the impression that all you guys are blaming me for running ahead, in which case I refer you to this post by the big cheese himself.

You guys just made it relevant by swapping drivers every second bloody weekend. Seriously, who promotes an F3RWRS driver into the F1RWRS after one race? *Cough*DrBaker*Cough* :P


No one's playing the blame game, we're just asking you to tone down the speed at which you run the series for the future. There's no hard feelings, though there might be if we have another MRT championship victory! :lol:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 16:05
by DemocalypseNow
AndreaModa wrote:
Wizzie wrote:I'm starting to get the impression that all you guys are blaming me for running ahead, in which case I refer you to this post by the big cheese himself.

You guys just made it relevant by swapping drivers every second bloody weekend. Seriously, who promotes an F3RWRS driver into the F1RWRS after one race? *Cough*DrBaker*Cough* :P


No one's playing the blame game, we're just asking you to tone down the speed at which you run the series for the future. There's no hard feelings, though there might be if we have another MRT championship victory! :lol:

Don't worry, Kremnicky is the best driver and has the best engine, so MRT don't stand a chance! ;)

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 20:46
by dr-baker
Wizzie wrote:You guys just made it relevant by swapping drivers every second bloody weekend. Seriously, who promotes an F3RWRS driver into the F1RWRS after one race? *Cough*DrBaker*Cough* :P

Kimi Raikkonen from one season of UK Formula Renault (sub-F3) to Sauber and eventual Ferrari WDC???

And anyway, whatever happens in the F1RWRS race, it goes on to help him prepare for a successful Bathurst 24 hours, where only a mechanical problem held the car back, despite Douglas's best efforts. So :P .

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 00:44
by TomWazzleshaw
dr-baker wrote:
Wizzie wrote:You guys just made it relevant by swapping drivers every second bloody weekend. Seriously, who promotes an F3RWRS driver into the F1RWRS after one race? *Cough*DrBaker*Cough* :P

Kimi Raikkonen from one season of UK Formula Renault (sub-F3) to Sauber and eventual Ferrari WDC???


Yeah but Raikkonen spent most of the time dominating the series. McFry and One on the other hand are simply muppets who really shouldn't be given superlicenses. Also, one race DOESN'T equal a full season :lol:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 03:03
by TomWazzleshaw
2014 Luxembourg Invitational - Race

POSITIVES

Michael Cameron: The leading F3RWRS driver on the grid showed us why he is just that by blasting past both MRTs at the start and simply controlling the race from there. Even late in the race when he was stuck behind the one-stopping Albertini, he kept his cool and simply got by at turn 1 and won the race. Andrej Kremnicky may be the overwhelming championship favourite for next year but if this race is anything to go by, the race for next year's title is anything but a foregone conclusion.

Dorien Lamberigts: Lamberigts showed that out and out pace does indeed run in the family. Unlike older brother Wouter however, Dorien has race pace as well and, coupled with the slightly superior Lancia engine, used to her full advantage to finish an eventual 2nd. Her inlap before her seconds stop to get her ahead of Melrose was one of the best in a very long time and she didn't take long to put a decisive move on Albertini to slot into 2nd behind Cameron.

Jean-Vincent Albertini: The Monegasque, whilst a paydriver, is a very talented one at that as he was the only frontrunner who managed to make the one-stop strategy work for him. He led brilliantly late in the race even with the leading quartet of Cameron, Lamberigts, Melrose and Simpson bearing down on him on worn tyres but just couldn't hold on for the win.

Hydook Racing: Out of the three Aston Martin teams, they're probably the only true customer team with Jones looking increasingly likely to become the second works Aston team. However, in response, Hydook spent all afternoon bashing Jones' face in by running 7th and 8th late in the event before Ristic's transmission gave up the ghost. Carsten Jancker made it to the end in 6th but couldn't have gotten 5th from Lucarelli in the end given another lap.

Samora Mondlane: He had the wood on teammate Cabral all weekend and, unlike Cabral, managed to keep it on the road and even pulled off several impressive overtaking maneuvers on his way to an eventual 8th place.

NEGATIVES

Anyone at GRM Young Lions whose name is not Carter Simpson: Holden had their two works cars represent their team at the invitational. Both of them has separate electrical malfunctions with the one on Ryan Zimmer's car proving terminal which put an early end to his already poor afternoon. The electrical problem on Simpson's car cost him a potential problem but he got fastest lap after his unscheduled stop for his troubles

Daniel Melville: The electrical problem he suffered wasn't his fault. The overaggressive driving after it was. He may have pulled off some great moves on his way back up to 9th but the way he submitted to Lamberigts at the start and the collisions after the unscheduled stop left a lot to be desired.

Jones Racing: Below average didn't even come close to describing Sammy Jones' first solo foray into the F2RWRS as Connor O'Heagan failed to replicate his form from his two previous F2RWRS starts to be passed by virtually anyone and everyone while the only notable thing Ashley Lilly did was spin off mid race.

AeroRacing: The final few laps of the race must have been a living nightmare for team boss Phoenix McAllister as Hillary King threw away an 11th placed finish with a few laps to go with a costly spin whilst the Audi powerplant in the back of Raul Suoto Maior's car blew up on the penultimate lap whilst on track for 8th place.

Nick Nurmester: It's general knowledge that both MRT/JLD drivers in the F3RWRS are under pressure to perform in 2015. Joel Melrose, whilst facing a possible penalty for his qualifying altercation with Cameron, had the upper hand on his vastly more experienced teammate all weekend as Nurmester simply fell down the field from his front-row start down to an eventual 11th place finish.

Jose Maria Cabral: Giving Reject of the Race to the Portuguese driver was a fairly easy decision after two spins at exactly the same spot in consecutive laps. Whilst Mondlane managed to pull off several classy moves through the field, Cabral didn't even do that as from last on the grid he made his way to... a lapped 17th and last of the finishers.

1. M. Cameron (Simpson-BMW): 1h 10m 24.540s
2. D. Lamberigts (RonDen-Zastava): +2.228
3. J-V. Albertini (Gillet-BMW): +7.179
4. J. Melrose (MRT-BMW): +8.128
5. A. Lucarelli (Alitalia-Lancia): +28.373
6. C. Jancker (Hydook-Aston Martin): +28.966
7. C. Simpson (Young Lions-Holden): +40.950
8. S. Mondlane (Beirao-BMW): +1:01.036
9. D. Melville (Dofasco-Audi): +1:02.961
10. L. Crescenzi (Alitalia-Lancia): +1:17.254
11. N. Nurmester (MRT-BMW): +1:24.601
12. C. O'Heagan (Jones-Aston Martin): +1:25.787
13. E. Swerts (Gillet-BMW): +1:27.591
14. W. Cieslar (Dofasco-Audi): +1:36.868
15. H. King (AeroRacing-Audi): +1:39.885
16. A. Lilly (Jones-Aston Martin): +1 LAP
17. J. Maria Cabral (Beirao-BMW): +1 LAP
18. R. Suoto Maior (AeroRacing-Audi): +2 LAPS*
19. B. Ristic (Hydook-Aston Martin): +5 LAPS*
DNF. S. Garfunkel (RonDen-Zastava): Engine
DNF. M. Van De Schoot (Simpson-BMW): Engine
DNF. R. Zimmer (Young Lions-Holden): Electrics

*Didn't finish but completed 90% race distance

Pole: J. Melrose (MRT-BMW): 1:41.711
Fastest Lap: C. Simpson (Young Lions-Holden): 1:42.390
ROTR: Jose Maria Cabral - Simply crap all round
IIDOTR: Jean-Vincent Albertini - Came oh so close to making the one stopper work
Leaders:
M. Cameron: 1-12, 22-27, 38-40 (Total: 21)
J. Melrose: 13 (Total: 1)
J-V. Albertini: 14-21, 32-37 (Total: 14)
D. Lamberigts: 28 (Total: 1)
C. Simpson: 29-31 (Total: 3)

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 08:44
by TomWazzleshaw
Before I forget, I'd like some feedback on the new engine performance system based on this race but I want to add a few (Read: many) notes first:

1. Joel Melrose will, in all probability, be given 45 penalty points under the F3RWRS penalty system but Lappy will have to review the footage first, assuming that I remember to show it to him at some point.
2. The engines were in all honesty much closer than I thought. 4 of the five manufacturers (Lancia, BMW, Holden and Audi) held the fastest lap at one point and, whilst the slightly better power of the Lancia made it slightly easier to slice their way through the field, as demonstrated by Crescenzi, driver performance is still the main determining factor. Interestingly enough, it was the Audis and Holdens that had the worst reliability record with both the works Holdens having separate electrical problems and the Audis had a 50% strike rate. Garfunkel's engine failure was the best though with the Lancia powerplant spontaneously combusting at the first sign of trouble :lol:
3. Scuderia Alitalia > Jones Racing :lol:
4. As Suoto Maior proved by keeping it on the road and being half-decent yet again before having the Audi powerplant blow up, Phoenix still has no idea how to run a team properly :lol:
5. Tommy, if you want a hope in hell of making it out of Pre-Q, sack Seron immediately. And I mean immediately
6. Same goes for you and Cieslar down at Dofasco, Lukas

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 10:06
by Nuppiz
Nick Nurmester wrote:My inexperience in single-seaters showed, and while I was able to make an excellent qualifying lap, in the race proper I was simply out of my league. The next year in F3RWRS will be a learning experience.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 14:06
by AndreaModa
Autosport wrote:Sammy Jones defends CJR's performance at the F2RWRS Invitational
Sammy Jones, team boss of Castrol Jones Racing, has moved to defend his team's performance at the recent F2RWRS Invitational at the Nurburgring, seeking to clarify a number of different criticisms that have been levelled at his team over the course of the meeting.

"There's a lot of bullsh*t flying around at the moment about my team and it's potential for the upcoming 2015 season. I'd like to clarify a number of points that have been raised during this weekend that have done nothing but put my team in a bad light. Our driver line-up for this invitational race was no-where near the strongest on the grid. Connor had two outings for Jones Italia during the regular season, and that's it. He's still very raw, and inexperienced, and I think when considering this fact he's done a good solid job bringing the car home in 11th. Christ he finished in front of Swerts who had a full year of F3RWRS with us! His full season in the RoLFS series for 2015 will give him the perfect opportunity to develop himself into a more complete driver. As for Ashley, we decided to give him a run following his impressive albeit brief appearance in the F3RWRS, and I think he's one to watch for the future. A full year with Kingfisher in the F2RWRS will be good for him, but I can't help but feel a full year in F3RWRS would have been a better option for him. From his performance today, I'll be keeping a close eye on him and I'd be very interested in him driving for my team at some point in the future should an opportunity for him to do so arises.

It has also come to my attention that some sections of the paddock believe that my team is inferior to the buffoons that would be better off running an ice cream parlour, yet call themselves the professional racing team Scuderia Alitalia. It's already clear that the Lancia engine is a joke, and reinforces the fact that Lancia can't even put together a push bike properly, let alone build decent racing engines. In addition to this, the team ran two far more experienced F3RWRS drivers than the line-up Castrol Jones Racing had. If I'd put Terry Hawkin in the car, what might have happened? It's obvious that with the tightly-packed field, that driver ability will be the key definer on how each team fares over the season, so to see Cameron winning at the front, as well as Alitalia doing better than Jones, is no surprise to me as far as I'm concerned. I have full confidence in both Hawkin, and Shioya should he choose to sign with us, and I think both will demonstrate their abundant ability once the 2015 season is underway."


Connor O'Heagan wrote:So 11th isn't the best result, but I'm happy with my race today, it's a good solid result and Sammy is happy with my performance. I gave it my all, and so I'm pretty satisfied on the whole. It was great to get another run out in these F2RWRS cars which are really quite something. Moving to RoLFS for 2015 will be good too, I'm looking forward to driving a full season, and taking on the challenges that series will bring.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 15:41
by tommykl
Well, I better sack Seron, then. Eurobrun, I'm not seeing him on any entry list for 2015 on the wiki, so would you kindly let Andrea Battani up into F2RWRS on a part-time schedule?

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 16:39
by DemocalypseNow
La Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote:Image
- E D I T O R I A L E -
Who needs sitcoms when we have Jones Racing?

In sport, there is nothing more hilarious to watch than the sore loser. The individual or team with a giant ego, expecting to walk to success, only to be given a massive slap in the face by karma and be utterly humiliated by their peers. There is one such team in the Reject World Race Series racing franchise, that has decided to make a point of picking on Italy's second racing team.

They have been acting like spoiled children lately, taking constant tantrums because they now have a bigger rival in the form of Il Barone Rampante with which they have to share space. And the funny thing is, they have shown nothing to deserve being treated equally to IBR, they have been very poor in lower formulae where they have equal equipment to the Italian team.

The weird twist in the tale is they were forced to share their toys with Scuderia Alitalia, when the F2RWRS Commission deemed IBR's takeover of the defunt Trueba Junior Team as contravening sporting regulations, with Jones Racing first in line to a new entry in the series. Therefore, the solution was reaced for Scuderia Jones Italia, a joint venture between the two teams for the rest of the 2014 season, before parting ways to form sepereate teams in 2015. Jones constantly bitched and moaned about an invisible conspiracy, that IBR were incompetent and couldn't run a team properly. Ironically, it was essentially IBR's team with Jones allowed to run a car on his own, therefore the Italians had more influence in the team. What we can't doubt is that Hawkin is a far more talented driver than Bizzarri, so it's no surprise the English half of the garage got better results, but it was down purely to driver skill rather than a better technical package. They both had identical cars, but Hawkin can extract more from it.

The tirades have shown no signs of letting up, but mediocre results for Jones Racing in the support formulae of RWRS while Alitalia have gone from strength-to-strength has made the English team a laughing stock. IBR CEO Alasdair Lindsay summed it up best;

"I used to love watching comedy on TV, I regularly went to stand-up gigs and so on. But I don't need to anymore, I get so many laughs hearing and reading the nonsense Jones says that I don't need to watch anything else to get my weekly dose of humour. It makes Fawlty Towers looks sensible and boring."

But, now the Jones-IBR partnership has been dissolved, in the recent F2RWRS Invitational, a clear picture has emerged. With the Lancia engines and on their own, Scuderia Alitalia humiliated the now solo Jones Racing, and instead of humbly admitting defeat as he shoud, instead Mr Sammy Jones has decided to continue to deride the supposedly incompetent IBR. Comments like these just go to show he is delusional and a world of his own seperate from reality. When you stop accepting what is happening in front of your own eyes and choose to live in the clouds, it will begin a long downward spiral fuelled by ego-driven ignorance. Unless he changes his ways, he will have to eat more humble pie than any baker in the land can possibly make.


La Stampa wrote:Financial: Lampre being shunned by local investors

This is one of the rare cases where increasing sponsorship portfolio hurts a company more than it does good. Their continuing backing of the Lampre-ISD ProTour team has increased their worldwide profile over the years, but their recent investment in the Jones Racing RWRS team has hurt them on home soil.

The sponsorship of said team is turning into a PR disaster, as their highly publicised spat against Italian superteam Scuderia Alitalia is making them a moral enemy of Italy as a whole. The original Ferrari tifosi have shown how fiercely loyal Italian fans are to their national racing teams, and now with the Il Barone Rampante team which runs Scuderia Alitalia becoming a major force in the world motorsport, they are beginning to garner a similar level of support.

These constant and spiteful attacks against IBR are making Lampre look very bad indeed. The pre-coated steel manufacturer's share prices have steadily declined over the last month, sales to their home market are down 19% in the last quarter, yet sales in their secondary market Portugal, another country in economic hardship, went up 9% in the same period, and in Europe as a whole their sales were up 3%.

The figures say it all; if Lampre wants to avoid further reductions in their home market sales, they have to pull the plug on Jones. It seems this incident is up there with the worst PR disasters ever.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 21:59
by RonDenisDeletraz
tommykl wrote:Well, I better sack Seron, then. Eurobrun, I'm not seeing him on any entry list for 2015 on the wiki, so would you kindly let Andrea Battani up into F2RWRS on a part-time schedule?


Last time I checked, he was already signed to ARC/whatever their called next year in the F1RWRS.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 23:05
by AndreaModa
Autosport wrote:Jones responds to damning Gazetta dello Sport article

This evening, Sammy Jones has angrily reacted to a article related to his comments following the F2RWRS Invitational race at the Nurburgring that was published in the Italian Gazetta dello Sport magazine where Alasdair Lindsay described Jones' comments as making "Fawlty Towers looks sensible and boring".

Jones has thus fought back in what appears to be yet another war of words developing between the outspoken team owner and the Il Barone Rampante organisation, something which has characterised much of 2014. The mud-slinging isn't something new to Jones though, who has had numerous public spats with others including Barii Mori and Phoenix McAllister.

In retaliation to the comments, and in an exclusive for Autosport, Jones had this to say.

"Lindsay and his mugs at IBR are good at one thing, and one thing only. If inventing baseless accusations and comments without a shred of evidence to back them up was rewarded with championship points, IBR would have cleaned up in all the series they have their fat dirty fingers in. At the end of the day, Lindsay can spout as much bullsh*t as he wants about Jones Racing, or anything else he feels like wasting his breath with, but no-one is really going to take him seriously. The same can be said of the tragically over-enthusiastic Italian press. They all have the same problem, and I really feel quite sorry for them. They all want to take a back seat for a little while, let the professionals with real racing pedigree write the headlines, and then come back when they've cooled off a bit.

Oh and the Lampre reports? A load of horsesh*t the lot of it. The fact is Dinella's bringing that to the F3RWRS team, and that's the end of it. They are connected to him, not Jones Racing, so I haven't a clue what that laughable article is going on about. I couldn't care less who is bringing money to the table, the fact is we have the cold hard cash and an excellent chassis and engine combination which almost netted us both titles last year. We have full confidence in both Dinella and Swerts and we expect them to deliver in the same manner Hawkin has done in 2014."

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 00:31
by AdrianSutil
Ashley Lilly Twitter:
"Sorry to Jones Racing for my below-average showing. I'm only 50% fit at the moment. Nice to see them keep an eye on me, as anyone driving for them will know what a great team they are."

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 02:59
by TomWazzleshaw
Ashley Lilly Twitter:
"Sorry to Jones Racing for my below-average showing. I'm only 50% fit at the moment. Nice to see them keep an eye on me, as anyone driving for them will know what a great team they are."


If that was 50%, then he must have a really, REALLY small operating band :lol:

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 06:25
by AdrianSutil
Wizzie wrote:
Ashley Lilly Twitter:
"Sorry to Jones Racing for my below-average showing. I'm only 50% fit at the moment. Nice to see them keep an eye on me, as anyone driving for them will know what a great team they are."


If that was 50%, then he must have a really, REALLY small operating band :lol:

Maybe 60% then :lol:

I just hope he and Davidson aren't going to be total fail...

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 06:35
by tommykl
eurobrun wrote:
tommykl wrote:Well, I better sack Seron, then. Eurobrun, I'm not seeing him on any entry list for 2015 on the wiki, so would you kindly let Andrea Battani up into F2RWRS on a part-time schedule?


Last time I checked, he was already signed to ARC/whatever their called next year in the F1RWRS.

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Then I'm thinking about either Alexey Buyvolov and Gregor Pascal.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 06:57
by RonDenisDeletraz
tommykl wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
tommykl wrote:Well, I better sack Seron, then. Eurobrun, I'm not seeing him on any entry list for 2015 on the wiki, so would you kindly let Andrea Battani up into F2RWRS on a part-time schedule?


Last time I checked, he was already signed to ARC/whatever their called next year in the F1RWRS.

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Then I'm thinking about either Alexey Buyvolov and Gregor Pascal.


Gregor Pascal is willing to take the drive.

I am now at my 5 driver limit.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 07:14
by tommykl
eurobrun wrote:
tommykl wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Last time I checked, he was already signed to ARC/whatever their called next year in the F1RWRS.

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Then I'm thinking about either Alexey Buyvolov and Gregor Pascal.


Gregor Pascal is willing to take the drive.

I am now at my 5 driver limit.

OK, if The Lukas doesn't answer, he's signed.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 09:36
by MinardiFan95
Dave Simpson (over the radio to Michael Cameron) wrote:Superb job Michael, great race mate. Keep it up, and hopefully you'll be on that top step of the podium a few more times next season


Dave Simpson (at an interview) wrote:The whole team did an amazing job over not just the weekend but the entire season, kudos to everyone involved, you all did a great job in our team's first year. The biggest thanks today though has to go to Michael Cameron, who drove a flawless race from start to finish, and I think has really proven that he isn't just here in RWRS because of his older brother, like some cynics (*cough*generic times*cough*) have suggested. With Michael on board with us for next season and a very well sorted and much improved car we'd have to expect to be at the front of the field. We've also got Dave (Anderson) back on board for next season, fingers crossed that he has some better luck next season. We're also going to offer Marcus (van de Schoot) the test driver role for next season, as he showed some promising signs once he'd adapted to the F2RWRS machine and before he unfortunately retired with engine troubles.

Re: F2RWRS - The feeder category of the F1RWRS

Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 13:37
by The Lukas
Autosport wrote:Buyvolov Dofasco driver in the 2015 season
team Dofasco Racing on its website confirmed that Alexey Buyvolov, will be the driver of the team in 2015 F2RWRS season.Recently the Russian raced in the series Rejects of LFS,in team Ural Racing with very good results in the final classification took fifth place by winning two races, the owner Dofasco Racing Grzegosz Sobczyk praises the new driver of his team, he said"Alexey is really a good material for a good driver has great skills and great experience we hope that Wojtek(Wojciech Cieslar) i Alexey,create a really good duet drivers."