Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 07:45**

JeremyMcClean wrote:OK
EDIT - Also, how does one raise the speed of the car?
And when does the season start?

By purchasing more power for your engine, or by buying more performance points for your drivers. This can done at any time during the season with the credits you´ve left. Then, at the end of the season you´ll receive more credits on a fixed rate basis (200 per season) + on achievements. The season will start sometime next week

Pre-season testing session #1 should happen sometime this weekend.
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I also want to consult something with you guys. It would affect more people who bought a cheap chassis but I think it will make things more equal and "realistic". I´m thinking about entering a BHP (Power) limit a chassis can reach. The reason for this is that if one person purchased the Life chassis and the Zakspeed engine, for example, it would still be faster than the rest of the cars in the grid. So, say the Life chassis may only reach a maximum of 500 Bhp, a medium-priced chassis may only reach 700 Bhp and higher priced chassis can go beyond 800... Each chassis will have it´s own power limit if it´s ok with you.

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 07:47**

Aerond wrote:The reason for this is that if one person purchased the Life chassis and the Zakspeed engine, for example, it would still be faster than the rest of the cars in the grid.

And I was the one person who went the other way and bought a poor engine with a brilliant chassis... crap.

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 10:15**

Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:The reason for this is that if one person purchased the Life chassis and the Zakspeed engine, for example, it would still be faster than the rest of the cars in the grid.

And I was the one person who went the other way and bought a poor engine with a brilliant chassis... crap.

Truth

I think it will be best for everyone

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 10:28**

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:The reason for this is that if one person purchased the Life chassis and the Zakspeed engine, for example, it would still be faster than the rest of the cars in the grid.

And I was the one person who went the other way and bought a poor engine with a brilliant chassis... crap.

Truth

I think it will be best for everyone

Well on the bright side MRT and Horizon have two of the most reliable cars in the field... I think.

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 12:54**

Wizzie wrote:Well on the bright side MRT and Horizon have two of the most reliable cars in the field... I think.

Well I sure hope so, Mr. Team Owner.

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 13:02**

Can you give me an update on how powerful my chassis and engine are? Thanks, this is looking like a great program!

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 13:15**

Dartanian wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Well on the bright side MRT and Horizon have two of the most reliable cars in the field... I think.

Well I sure hope so, Mr. Team Owner.

Well the Horizon is the second more reliable car in the field... the MRT is somewhere in the middle but closer to the "reliable" side. I did some quick calculations and the best number I saw was 4000 (Lower = better I believe) and the worst was 30000 :lol:

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 13:27**

JeremyMcClean wrote:Can you give me an update on how powerful my chassis and engine are? Thanks, this is looking like a great program!

I´ll update tonight or tomorrow after the race

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 13:30**

Wizzie wrote:
Dartanian wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Well on the bright side MRT and Horizon have two of the most reliable cars in the field... I think.

Well I sure hope so, Mr. Team Owner.

Well the Horizon is the second more reliable car in the field... the MRT is somewhere in the middle but closer to the "reliable" side. I did some quick calculations and the best number I saw was 4000 (Lower = better I believe) and the worst was 30000

cars tend to be quite unreliable from 7000 onwards, so you can expect high atrition races all along this opening season. The fact that I chose quite a high consistency rate means that we´ll see varied results as well. The more inconsistent teams can expect their drivers to be up to a 5% slower than their best pace!

Tomorrow I´ll publish the list of teams having to face pre-qualifying for the first half of the season. Pre-Qualifying will consist of two 15 mins qualifying sessions. The best 3 teams will pass it (by the combined times of the drivers). That means 11 teams will be allowed directly into qualifying proper, and another two drivers will have to sit down for the race.

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 13:37**

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Dartanian wrote:Well I sure hope so, Mr. Team Owner.

Well the Horizon is the second more reliable car in the field... the MRT is somewhere in the middle but closer to the "reliable" side. I did some quick calculations and the best number I saw was 4000 (Lower = better I believe) and the worst was 30000

cars tend to be quite unreliable from 7000 onwards, so you can expect high atrition races all along this opening season. The fact that I chose quite a high consistency rate means that we´ll see varied results as well. The more inconsistent teams can expect their drivers to be up to a 5% slower than their best pace!

Dude, I'm trying to keep my star driver on side. Don't make my job more difficult than it already is. :evil:

Posted: **16 Apr 2011, 19:01**

Well, to be honest, I'm not sure what all this will mean in practice or even whether I've made the right choices or not for the Foxdale team. Just waiting eagerly to find out...

Posted: **17 Apr 2011, 05:52**

Aerond wrote:Tomorrow I´ll publish the list of teams having to face pre-qualifying for the first half of the season. Pre-Qualifying will consist of two 15 mins qualifying sessions. The best 3 teams will pass it (by the combined times of the drivers). That means 11 teams will be allowed directly into qualifying proper, and another two drivers will have to sit down for the race.

Will qualifying be two 60 minutes sessions or just the one? Oh and how long will the races be and finally as an extension of that how long should the videos be? (I managed to convince TMLW to let me help him with the editing of the videos on the basis that I'm just better than him. :lol:

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Posted: **17 Apr 2011, 09:05**

Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:Tomorrow I´ll publish the list of teams having to face pre-qualifying for the first half of the season. Pre-Qualifying will consist of two 15 mins qualifying sessions. The best 3 teams will pass it (by the combined times of the drivers). That means 11 teams will be allowed directly into qualifying proper, and another two drivers will have to sit down for the race.

Will qualifying be two 60 minutes sessions or just the one? Oh and how long will the races be and finally as an extension of that how long should the videos be? (I managed to convince TMLW to let me help him with the editing of the videos on the basis that I'm just better than him. )

Qualifying will also consist of two 15 minutes sessions (as this tend to be more unpredictable as well). The races will be Formula One standard, except for a couple of tracks (it depends how the track is programmed). Norisring will be 99 laps, while Bathurst will be 99 as well!!! (as it´s programmed that way!).

Posted: **17 Apr 2011, 09:11**

Aerond wrote:Qualifying will also consist of two 15 minutes sessions (as this tend to be more unpredictable as well). The races will be Formula One standard, except for a couple of tracks (it depends how the track is programmed). Norisring will be 99 laps, while Bathurst will be 99 as well!!! (as it´s programmed that way!).

99 at Bathurst? There'll be nobody left at the finish :lol:

Posted: **17 Apr 2011, 17:50**

F1 RWRS COMISSION -

The teams having to face pre-qualifying for the first half of the 2013 season, based on the 2012 championship results (based on a combined rate of drivers/position of that team; as there´re a couple of new teams and drivers) are:

HORIZON
FAT TURBO RACING
TRUEBA RACING TEAM
SHOCK OF THE LIGHTNING MOTORSPORT
FLYING FISH MOTORSPORT
CALINETIC
VIRGIN INTER CORSE
AMERICAN RACING CONGLOMERATE

Posted: **17 Apr 2011, 22:35**

I´ve draw the Chassis-Engine for Virgin Inter Corse as it wasn´t announced in time; so Virgin intercose will run the following combination:

Coloni F188C - Ford ED V8
Virgin Intercorse have now 450 development credits.

I´ve also assigned the next drivers on default as the following teams haven´t announced a second driver:

Flying Fish Motorsport
2nd driver -- Yu Hiang-Hao

CR Motorsport
2nd driver -- Andrea Massini

American Racing Conglomerate
2nd driver -- Jesús Plaza

Posted: **17 Apr 2011, 23:48**

In the end I couldn´t resist choosing liveries for every team... Message for team owners: If you hate your livery... Well, I gave you the chance to choose or make one!!!

Shock of the Lightning

Trueba

Sunshine Infiniti

Prospec

InterCorse

Foxdale (Pretty rejectful for a champion!!)

Flying Fish

FAT Turbo Racing

CR Motorsport

Calinetic

Arrowtech

American Racing Conglomerate

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 00:24**

PRE-SEASON TESTING #1 -- KYALAMI

1. Pippa Mann (Foxdale) -- 1.13.316
2. Shinobu Katayama (Sunshine) -- 1.13.470
3. Mark Dagnall (Dagnall) -- 1.13.591
4. Aurelian Moll (Gillet) -- 1.13.967
5. Jesus Plaza (American Racing) -- 1.14.402
6. Yu Hiang Hao (Flying Fish) -- 1.14.428
7. Douglas Mann (Foxdale) -- 1.14.581
8. Rhys Davies (HRT) -- 1.14.584
9. Hagane Shizuka (Sunshine) -- 1.14.734
10. Kay Lon (Kahama) -- 1.15.013
11. Chris Dagnall (Dagnall) -- 1.15.048
12. Daniel Melrose (Arrowtech) -- 1.15.050
13. Nicolas Steele (Calinetic) -- 1.15.055
14. Dave Simpson (Prospec) -- 1.15.058
15. Daniel Martins (Arrowtech) -- 1.15.123
16. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.15.198
17. Dave McFaste (FAT) -- 1.15.320
18. Tristan Jung (Trueba) -- 1.15.363
19. Thomas de Bock (Gillet) -- 1.15.474
20. Damon Cannon (Shock of Lightning) -- 1.15.669
21. Colin Pratchett (American Racing) -- 1.15.708
22. Saeed Al Faisal (FAT) -- 1.15.823
23. Resi Respati (Flying Fish) -- 1.15.899
24. Ashley Watkinson (HRT) -- 1.15.981
25. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 1.16.328
26. Todd Cockburn (InterCorse) -- 1.16.440
27. David Koczo (Calinetic) -- 1.16.452
28. Jari Kekkonen (Phoenix) -- 1.16.519
29. Barii Mori (Kahama) -- 1.16.521
30. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.16.563
31. Frank Zimmer (Horizon) -- 1.16.684
32. Nathaniel Spencer (MRT) -- 1.16.981
33. Phillipe Nicolas (MRT) -- 1.16.986
34. Richie White (Shock of Lightning) -- 1.17.110
35. Phil McCraken (InterCorse) -- 1.17.843
36. Dean O´Lauchlan (Horizon) -- 1.18.876
37. Andrea Massini (CR) -- 1.26.088
38. Darren Older Jr (CR) -- 1.26.144

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 00:41**

Ah crap. At this rate it's going to be one LONG season for MRT. You might as well give ROTY to us already.

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 00:58**

Jari Kekkonen wrote:What's wrong with the car?

EDIT - The ArrowTech AT-03! (It's the white car painted over with this :lol:

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Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 01:46**

In terms of laptime, how much difference will 10 BHP make?

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 06:41**

A few things:

The HRT livery is epic.
I'm sure I put Prospec, Calinetic and CR liveries up somewhere, I think on page 20-something or rather.
And it's good to see HRT demolishing MRT. Even though watka is too low for my liking... :cry:

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 07:07**

I'm not thinking the SI car can be good enough. False dawn, has to be one.

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 07:47**

the Masked Lapwing wrote:A few things:

The HRT livery is epic.
I'm sure I put Prospec, Calinetic and CR liveries up somewhere, I think on page 20-something or rather.
And it's good to see HRT demolishing MRT. Even though watka is too low for my liking...

Oh! I didn´t want to paint 3 extra liveries, u know!!! Anyway, Calinetic one is GREAT and CR is truly rejectful, worth of the car they have

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 07:48**

Wizzie wrote:In terms of laptime, how much difference will 10 BHP make?

I´ll tell you this evening.

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 08:12**

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:In terms of laptime, how much difference will 10 BHP make?

I´ll tell you this evening.

I'm not actually buying the upgrade, I'm just seeing if I'm better off writing off this season and buy a better engine next season or try to make the most of this crapbox of a car.

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 08:21**

Pippa Mann wrote:So far, I think this justifies my decision to NOT retire. And Douglas tells me he was doing full-tank runs so he's hoping there's more to come from him (although he's always been slower than me, hasn't he? I think he's bullplopping me with that...) Not bad for a team with a livery that even the livery designer described as "pretty rejectful!"

Aerond wrote:Foxdale (Pretty rejectful for a champion!!)

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 09:02**

Damon Cannon wrote: That's a real surprise. I thought I would be mired down with Richie and other new teams at the bottom of the time sheets. To get within 2.5 seconds of the frontrunners on the car's very first test has given us hope for the season, that we can pre-qualify regularily, and attract more sponsership.

Richie White wrote: The new car was unbalanced, and it was a struggle to keep it on the racetrack at times. I suppose the real reason why Damon did so well is that he has had experience with bad cars, like that 1998 Arrows he once drove, and could find where the car would and would not work. Goals are exactly like Damon's, especially since our only sponsor at the moment is a defunct British rock band!

Thanks Aerond for the brilliant livery! See you found out where I got the name from, judging from the big OASIS logo on the side!!

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 15:33**

Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:In terms of laptime, how much difference will 10 BHP make?

I´ll tell you this evening.

I'm not actually buying the upgrade, I'm just seeing if I'm better off writing off this season and buy a better engine next season or try to make the most of this crapbox of a car.

A 10 Bhp boost gives an improvement of 0.24%
Just for your knowledge, a 100 Performance Points boost (which costs 50 credits) gives an improvement of 0.23%

On a personal note, I think MRT should be pretty safe as for the first part of the season it´s clear that DNQ is reserved for both CR cars. There´s plenty of races to score a couple of points (if only based on reliability) and avoid pre-qualifying for the last 8 races.

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 15:36**

Just a reminder:

LIST OF PRICES FOR IMPROVEMENTS

Reliability; Every 50 reliability points - 5 Credits
Engine Power; 1 BHP - 10 credits

Drivers -TEAM OWNER MUST SPECIFY TO WHICH DRIVER WILL BE APPLIED-:

Qualifying Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Race Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Driver Consistency; 10 points - 5 credits

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Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 17:24**

Since Sunshine has 50 points left, and although I am no team boss, I'd like to ask myself a qualify-race-consistency upgrade, taking up exactly the half of it. I think Shinobu would do the same, but we'll see what the team boss says on it.

Posted: **18 Apr 2011, 23:06**

CR Motorsport = Mastercard Lola :lol:

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 06:57**

Aerond wrote:Flying Fish Motorsport
2nd driver -- Yu Hiang-Hao

CR Motorsport
2nd driver -- Andrea Massini

American Racing Conglomerate
2nd driver -- Jesús Plaza

You should have given James Davies a drive (Salamander's alter ego). Then again Yu Hiang-Hao is one of the coolest names I've ever seen.

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 07:20**

Barii Mori wrote:Not happy with my position, but it is only testing so it means nothing.

Shinobu Katayama wrote:Well me and Pippa gave all the men something to think about, two women in the top 2 positions. I am pleased with my performance.

Can I use this template for the Sunshine Infiniti car?

With the 50 points I would like to spend them on..

Hagane Shizuka

Qualifying Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Race Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Driver Consistency; 10 points - 5 credits

Shinobu Katayama

Driver Consistency; 10 points - 5 credits

Car

Engine Power; 2 BHP - 20 credits

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 08:22**

I've decided to do a livery for Prospec (based on the Onyx Monterverdi) as well as a helmet for Dave Simpson.

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 13:03**

dr-baker wrote:
Pippa Mann wrote:So far, I think this justifies my decision to NOT retire. And Douglas tells me he was doing full-tank runs so he's hoping there's more to come from him (although he's always been slower than me, hasn't he? I think he's bullplopping me with that...) Not bad for a team with a livery that even the livery designer described as "pretty rejectful!"

Aerond wrote:Foxdale (Pretty rejectful for a champion!!)

Since Sunshine-Infiniti has now a homely-made livery (very cool BTW!), you can take their Eurostar livery; which looks very good in-game IMO

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 13:07**

MinardiFan95 wrote:I've decided to do a livery for Prospec (based on the Onyx Monterverdi) as well as a helmet for Dave Simpson.

That one won´t show correctly on GP2, since you worked under a different palette... what did you use??

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 13:39**

Aerond wrote:
MinardiFan95 wrote:I've decided to do a livery for Prospec (based on the Onyx Monterverdi) as well as a helmet for Dave Simpson.

That one won´t show correctly on GP2, since you worked under a different palette... what did you use??

I'm not sure... all I know is that I painted it in Photoshop and copied it onto the blank template in MS Paint.

Here are two more attempts at the livery, hopefully one of these will work in the game.

Posted: **20 Apr 2011, 04:02**

Barii Mori wrote:Well looks like I have bought the Kahama Motor Sports race team for a tin of beans in order to give me and Kay Lon drives for the season. I have not wasted any time and have got Orange, Glaxo, Kamaha and Pall Mall cigarettes on board as sponsors with Mozilla Firefox as a technical partner. We also have works engines from Ford so we should last the season. Here is our livery (subject to change).

With the 100 credits we have, I would like to spend

Car

Engine Power; 5 BHP - 50 credits

Barii Mori

Qualifying Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Race Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Driver Consistency; 10 points - 5 credits

Kay Lon

Qualifying Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Race Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Driver Consistency; 10 points - 5 credits

Posted: **20 Apr 2011, 16:07**

MinardiFan95 wrote:I'm not sure... all I know is that I painted it in Photoshop and copied it onto the blank template in MS Paint.

Here are two more attempts at the livery, hopefully one of these will work in the game.

They won´t work... you´re clearly working under the wrong palette since there´s a different background colour. You even trespassed the limits of the template, which you can´t do if you want it to work!

To SuperAguri: The Kahama looks great!

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