Grand Prix Rejects

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:1. Why was the Williams launch of 2000, 'different', so to speak?

As far as I recall, it was that the second seat was still undecided, and that the team would announce their decision AT the launch, with both Button and Junqueira in attendance.

The idea was that after one final test, either Jenson or Bruno got to be an F1 driver. With the world's media in attendance. So, no pressure guys...

It was certainly a good story. The car? Bugger the car! The sponsors? Who gives a damn. Unconventional. Yep. This was Willies, after all!

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:2. Which former Toyota driver was given by the team a piece of asphalt from Jerez?

I'd say Panis, as that's where his last test took place.

Easy one but very F1R

Who? & where is he?

eagleash wrote:Easy one but very F1R

Who? & where is he?

That has to be Sakon Yamamoto in the VR t-shirt. Now as for the location, It is most likely to be the old Monza banking considering this weekends Italian GP.

How many Grand Prix Drivers have their own videogame? name them.

Shadaza wrote:

eagleash wrote:Easy one but very F1R

Who? & where is he?

That has to be Sakon Yamamoto in the VR t-shirt. Now as for the location, It is most likely to be the old Monza banking considering this weekends Italian GP.

How many Grand Prix Drivers have their own videogame? name them.

Correct!!

Shadaza wrote:How many Grand Prix Drivers have their own videogame? name them.

Jacques Villeneuve, Satoru Nakajima, no doubt more...

Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II and Nigel Mansell World Championship are the two titles that come to my mind.

I believe Mario Andretti and Johnny Herbert (!) also have something with their name.

Senna had 2, Mansell had 2, Satoru Nakajima had 4 (!!) Johnny Herbert had 1 (!) JV had 1?
Well the Wikipedia list has 1 more F1 Driver. Think Japan!

Didn't Alain Prost had one as well? I might say Aguri Suzuki, but that is wrong fo' sure.

I'm thinking Sato, mainly cos he was all over Youtube like a rash advertising those car seats for racing computer games a little while back (probably still is! )?

Shadaza wrote:Senna had 2, Mansell had 2, Satoru Nakajima had 2 (!!) Johnny Herbert had 1 (!) JV had 1?
Well the Wikipedia list has 1 more F1 Driver. Think Japan!

Masami Kuwashima?

Klon wrote:I might say Aguri Suzuki, but that is wrong fo' sure.

"Aguri Suzuki even appears in the game as the most expert driver."

BINGO

Without checking Wikipedia or any other form of statistical info:

which three drivers finished all their races in 2003?

AdrianSutil wrote:Without checking Wikipedia or any other form of statistical info:

which three drivers finished all their races in 2003?

I've got Nicola Kiesa and HWNSNBM as the two off the top of my head... as for the third could it be Nick Heidfeld or Justin Wilson?

AdrianSutil wrote:Without checking Wikipedia or any other form of statistical info:

which three drivers finished all their races in 2003?

It's got to be the replacement drivers, so I'll say Nicolas Niesa, Takuma Sato and Marc Gené.

Faustus wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:Without checking Wikipedia or any other form of statistical info:

which three drivers finished all their races in 2003?

It's got to be the replacement drivers, so I'll say Nicolas Niesa, Takuma Sato and Marc Gené.

That'll be correct, i'd go with that

BINGO!!

Shadaza wrote:

Klon wrote:I might say Aguri Suzuki, but that is wrong fo' sure.

"Aguri Suzuki even appears in the game as the most expert driver."

BINGO

Aguri Suzuki had a game called F1 Super Driving?

That must be the origin of the name Super Aguri. Clearly one of the best F1 team names ever!

Shadaza wrote:Senna had 2, Mansell had 2, Satoru Nakajima had 4 (!!) Johnny Herbert had 1 (!) JV had 1?
Well the Wikipedia list has 1 more F1 Driver. Think Japan!

Given that the question was about Grand Prix drivers who have a videogame, Mario Andretti should be included as well, even if his game was not F1-related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andretti_Racing

tommykl wrote:Here's a new question: Maurice Trintignant is given as starting the 1951 French Grand Prix for the works Gordini team. However, he didn't actually drive the car. Who did, why was Trintignant unable to drive, and why wasn't the change reported to the race director?

You still have to answer this question!

tommykl wrote:

tommykl wrote:Here's a new question: Maurice Trintignant is given as starting the 1951 French Grand Prix for the works Gordini team. However, he didn't actually drive the car. Who did, why was Trintignant unable to drive, and why wasn't the change reported to the race director?

You still have to answer this question!

Or you have to give the answer.

eagleash wrote:

tommykl wrote:

tommykl wrote:Here's a new question: Maurice Trintignant is given as starting the 1951 French Grand Prix for the works Gordini team. However, he didn't actually drive the car. Who did, why was Trintignant unable to drive, and why wasn't the change reported to the race director?

You still have to answer this question!

Or you have to give the answer.

AWW, COME ON!

Can't you even give a wild guess?

I have no idea who did actually drove in the end, but I guess the Frenchman couldn't drive because he got s**tfaced and noone bothered to report it.

Maybe he couldn't be arsed

I have a source which states that Trintignant couldn't start the Monaco Grand Prix because of food poisoning, was replaced by Jean Behra (his first championship start), and that this is not always recorded correctly.

midgrid wrote:I have a source which states that Trintignant couldn't start the Monaco Grand Prix because of food poisoning, was replaced by Jean Behra (his first championship start), and that this is not always recorded correctly.

There was no Monaco Grand Prix in 1951, and it was actually the Italian Grand Prix

Anyway, Trintignant did have food poisoning and was replaced by Behra who made his first start. You still have to tell me why the driver change was not reported to the race organisers.

tommykl wrote:

midgrid wrote:I have a source which states that Trintignant couldn't start the Monaco Grand Prix because of food poisoning, was replaced by Jean Behra (his first championship start), and that this is not always recorded correctly.

There was no Monaco Grand Prix in 1951, and it was actually the Italian Grand Prix

Anyway, Trintignant did have food poisoning and was replaced by Behra who made his first start. You still have to tell me why the driver change was not reported to the race organisers.

Team incompetence?

The race organisers didn't understand French?

Nope. Hint: the failure to report the change was intentional.

tommykl wrote:Nope. Hint: the failure to report the change was intentional.

Because Behra wouldn't of been able to pass a medical examination needed?

He hadn't qualified the car?

tommykl wrote:

midgrid wrote:I have a source which states that Trintignant couldn't start the Monaco Grand Prix because of food poisoning, was replaced by Jean Behra (his first championship start), and that this is not always recorded correctly.

There was no Monaco Grand Prix in 1951, and it was actually the Italian Grand Prix

Anyway, Trintignant did have food poisoning and was replaced by Behra who made his first start. You still have to tell me why the driver change was not reported to the race organisers.

Argh, I misread "MON" as Monaco instead of Monza.

If eagleash's answer isn't correct, would it be because Behra didn't have the correct licence/wasn't a "graded" driver (or however it worked in the 1950s)?

midgrid wrote:

tommykl wrote:

midgrid wrote:I have a source which states that Trintignant couldn't start the Monaco Grand Prix because of food poisoning, was replaced by Jean Behra (his first championship start), and that this is not always recorded correctly.

There was no Monaco Grand Prix in 1951, and it was actually the Italian Grand Prix

Anyway, Trintignant did have food poisoning and was replaced by Behra who made his first start. You still have to tell me why the driver change was not reported to the race organisers.

Argh, I misread "MON" as Monaco instead of Monza.

If eagleash's answer isn't correct, would it be because Behra didn't have the correct licence/wasn't a "graded" driver (or however it worked in the 1950s)?

Damn; you pipped me to upgrading my answer.

No. Another hint: the change took place during the race weekend.

tommykl wrote:No. Another hint: the change took place during the race weekend.

Wild stab in the dark here - would the teams have lost out on Tritignant's share of the prize money if they switched drivers, since Behra hadn't been formally entered for the event?

mario wrote:

tommykl wrote:No. Another hint: the change took place during the race weekend.

Wild stab in the dark here - would the teams have lost out on Tritignant's share of the prize money if they switched drivers, since Behra hadn't been formally entered for the event?

BINGO!

tommykl wrote:

mario wrote:

tommykl wrote:No. Another hint: the change took place during the race weekend.

Wild stab in the dark here - would the teams have lost out on Tritignant's share of the prize money if they switched drivers, since Behra hadn't been formally entered for the event?

BINGO!

Well, when in doubt, I decided to go for what motivates most people and teams - good old cash.

OK, so, thinking about this, this might be a good question; in 1968, with experimental designs popping up left, right and centre, what particular device were Ferrari said to be working on that is normally thought to have been a much more recent invention?

I think I read somewhere (long ago) that they were researching into use of the exhaust gases for aerodynamic effect. But the re-configuration of the spaghetti exhaust cost power.

eagleash wrote:I think I read somewhere (long ago) that they were researching into use of the exhaust gases for aerodynamic effect. But the re-configuration of the spaghetti exhaust cost power.

Not quite what I was thinking of, though that is interesting to hear. No, the particular deice I'm thinking about was inspired by the efforts of another team that was trying something new in that era, coupled with developments in another field of motorsport which Ferrari took part in.

mario wrote:

eagleash wrote:I think I read somewhere (long ago) that they were researching into use of the exhaust gases for aerodynamic effect. But the re-configuration of the spaghetti exhaust cost power.

Not quite what I was thinking of, though that is interesting to hear. No, the particular deice I'm thinking about was inspired by the efforts of another team that was trying something new in that era, coupled with developments in another field of motorsport which Ferrari took part in.

Does seem a bit unlikely really....

Ferrari were possibly the first to test a sequential gearbox but I think that was 1978 not '68.

It could come back to wings but they're hardly a newer invention, but would provide a crossover to sports car racing. Other gearbox related gizmos (launch or traction control etc.) probably required more sophisticated electronics than were available at the time. Unless a mechanical system was tried for.

Lotus 56 first ran at Indy '68 with turbine power.