F1RWRS -- 2015 Season - ROTY voting!!!

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 10 Dec 2012, 22:56

F1RWRS 2015 -- ROUND 8 -- BRITISH GP -- Brands Hatch

Weather condition: Dry all weekend

PRE-QUALIFYING

1.David Koczo (Alitalia) -- 1.10.837
2.Andrea Battani (Boxtel) -- 1.11.357 (+0.520)
3.Mitchell Macklin (Simpson) -- 1.11.680 (+0.843)
4.Daniel Melrose (HRT) -- 1.11.760 (+0.923)
5.Ben Fleet (Alitalia) -- 1.11.960 (+1.123)
6.Marie Simon (Revolution) -- 1.11.997 (+1.160)
7.Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.12.243 (+1.406)
8.Frank Zimmer (HRT) -- 1.12.252 (+1.415)
9.Hagane Shizuka (Revolution) -- 1.12.329 (+1.492)
10.Nathan Scott (Tropico) -- 1.12.411 (+1.574)
11.Jari Kekkonen (Boxtel) -- 1.12.686 (+1.849)
12.Dave Simpson (Simpson) -- 1.12.888 (+2.051)
13.Miko Fakkinen (Autodynamics) -- 1.13.053 (+2.216)
14.Jean Luc Schiller (Mecha) -- 1.13.291 (+2.454)
15.Steven Mackintosh (Mecha) -- 1.13.736 (+2.899)
16.Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.13.857 (+3.020)
17.Damon Cannon (Autodynamics) -- 1.13.980 (+3.143)
18.Markus van de Schoot (Dofasco) -- 1.16.215 (+5.378)

** Alitalia will skip Pre-Qualifying at Round 9

QUALIFYING

** Prospec will run in Pre-Qualifying at Round 9

RACE

RACE

Somehow, Brands Hatch never fails to throw in some surprises. If last year it was Stig stellar performance with the underpowered Phoenix, and Mignolet's first podium in a season where nothing was expected from him, this year has been the marvelous weekend by David Neuberg and another great performance by Andrea Battani, those two drivers are the real winners from the weekend. It seems, Neuberg's stint at MRT has been good for everyone; it has given the German driver an extra point of confidence, and it has also produced a positive effect on Phillippe Nicolas, who drove the MRT like never before this season, seeing as his drive in MRT is not at all secured after Neuberg's performances. But they are not the only positives from the British race, Vantini must also be happy with his race result, in a race where he worried about being "the best of the rest" he ended up with another podium and built on his solid 3rd place in the championship.
Points were completed by Aurelien Moll in one of his not-so anonymous days, and Mirko Bosevic, who made his one stop strategy work on his behalf. Watkinson race was remarkable as well; even after a stop to fix his brake pedal, and colliding with Rhys Davies MRT, he managed to finish in the top 10, Jari Kekkonen did also a good job on getting the Boxtel to the top 10 and race was good as well for Alitalia drivers, managing to get out of Pre-Qualifying and record their 4th double finish of the season altogether.

On the downside, we must start with the dismal weekend at DGN. They messed up the strategy with both drivers at Dagnall's home race; Dagnall also spun while trying to work his way up and when he was on track for a podium finish the electrics left him some 1/2 km. from the pitlane, where he could have easily fixed the issue, but Mignolet's race was much worse, he spent most of the time at the back, victim of the wrong strategy as well, not happy with that, he spun three times (two of them totally ridiculous) and he must have thanked the fact that the transmission gave up, to have something to blame for his bad performance, true ROTR effort. Meanwhile, Dagnall must thank another retirement by Rhys Davies. Davies was running a solid 2nd when he suffered a puncture; instead from bringing the car safely into the pits (which weren't that far, to begin with), he spun into the wall and retired before being collected by Ashley Watkinson. He's ruined a good haul of points once again and he's giving too many points in favour of Mark Dagnall. At Foxdale they mustn't be too happy either. McFry went lights out at Druids in 1st lap and crashed into the back of Melrose car, launching into the gravel trap Sammy Jones and his own teammate as well. Not happy with that, he spun a few laps later and never looked like going anywhere but the back of the field. Other teams not too happy with this weekend are Kamaha (retirement by Mori and Steele couldn't make it into the points), HRT (his only driver at this race was thrown out), Aeroracing (Pippa's car gave up once more while The Stig managed to bin it), and Prospec (they're back into Pre-Qualifying and Mestolio's good perspectives ended up when his throttle got stuck and banged his car into the wall).

All in all, an eventful race; we'd like all of them to be action packed like this one!

DOTR -- David Neuberg; Amazing in a midfield car all weekend.

All the start pics

Pippa Mann formed a traffic jam behind

Mignolet's spin saga

Martins 2nd spin

Mestolio's accident

Davies spin before being collected by Watkinson

Stig's accident

Nicolas crossing the line

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Dec 2012, 07:48

3 races left

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Dec 2012, 09:31

Daniel Melrose, whilst still in Tropico the previous week wrote:First of all, I'd like to thank you all for attending this press conference, especially considering the hectic time that everyone here has had in the last few days. It is an enormous honour to be appointed as the President of Tropico and I promise to serve the people of Tropico to the best of my ability.

Now, I will have to leave for Britain in a few days but while I'm still here, I will do all that I can to help the people of Tropico. Firstly, I will appoint an initial five person ministry to oversee the governance of the country; the ministers for the economy, education, foreign affairs, interior, and defense. Who exactly will make up this ministry will be determined tomorrow afternoon but I promise the people that at least four members of the ministry will be Tropican natives. Secondly, we have started preliminary negotiations with PDVSA to build oil refineries on Tropico within the next five years, thus providing dozens of jobs for the Tropican people and guaranteeing the financial prosperity of the island. Finally, I will see to it that both the military and police force in Tropico is expanded greatly within the next five years, while also introducing new training methods to prevent cases of police brutality and the like.

Next on the agenda is the future of Tropico's F1RWRS team. As far as I understand, Tropico is the only nation in the world where Motorsport is the national sport, which I am personally proud of from my admittedly biased point of view. And as a result, there is a huge following of the national team and how it performs on the world stage. I can assure the people of Tropico that funding for the team will be guaranteed for the rest of the season, but beyond that point will be up to negotiation with our German backers, MRT and the F1RWRS Commission. Secondly, I can confirm that the Tropican Tourist board has signed a deal with MRT for next year, after negotiations which have spanned virtually since the start of 2015. This will be a massive coup for Tropican tourism as all our cars will be displaying prominent signage advertising Tropico as the premier tourist destinations in the Caribbean, as I myself have discovered through all my visits here. Finally, I as the head of the Tropican Government is fully committed to our financial backing of both Alberto Cara and Renaldo Jimenez, as both are shining beacons for Tropico in the international scene as they continue on their quest to become Tropico's first F1RWRS drivers, and hopefully our first champions in the sporting field.

I will now be taking questions from the floor.

Daniel Melrose, several days later at the British Grand Prix wrote:Well, at least I qualified the crapbox of a car this time. We're hoping for some attrition to snare home a point or two and having seen some of the chaos in the first F3RWRS, I wouldn't put that beyond the realms of possibility.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 11 Dec 2012, 09:48

Shizuka wrote:3 races left

And you still think that with Katayama in the other car things will be much better??? :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Dec 2012, 09:55

Andrea Sassetti wrote:WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Andrea Sassetti, after calming down, wrote:For the first time we have a car qualified on the third row, in fifth position. It's a great result for the team, now we'll try our best to convert that into a result. David may only be 23rd but he showed pace in pre-qualifying, hopefully he can find that again in the race and make his way up the order.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 11 Dec 2012, 09:57

kostas22 wrote:
Andrea Sassetti wrote:WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Andrea Sassetti, after calming down, wrote:For the first time we have a car qualified on the third row, in fifth position. It's a great result for the team, now we'll try our best to convert that into a result. David may only be 23rd but he showed pace in pre-qualifying, hopefully he can find that again in the race and make his way up the order.

... and the usual Ben Fleet Electrical Problem will come about lap 2 and end any chance :lol:

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 11 Dec 2012, 11:31

Wow, 8th on the grid, is this a dream? However, for the supposed number 1 driver to DNQ the same car is frankly shameful.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Dec 2012, 12:09

Aerond wrote:
Shizuka wrote:3 races left

And you still think that with Katayama in the other car things will be much better???

Yes. Plus then I'll have the money that'll probably sent in 2016.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 11 Dec 2012, 15:58

Shizuka wrote:
Aerond wrote:
Shizuka wrote:3 races left

And you still think that with Katayama in the other car things will be much better???

Yes. Plus then I'll have the money that'll probably sent in 2016.

Generally, I view Katayama as the most overrated female driver ever. Believe it.

Says the guy that controls another female driver in another series...

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 Dec 2012, 17:03

FMecha wrote:Generally, I view Katayama as the most overrated female driver ever. Believe it.

More than Danica Patrick!?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 11 Dec 2012, 18:22

Phoenix McAllister wrote:We have very high hopes for this GP. Last year, it signalled our only points-scoring race, and whoever is beneath The Stig's overalls has copious experience of Brands Hatch, so if the cars can make it to the finish who knows if maybe a second win in a row could be possible.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 Dec 2012, 20:50

Kay Lon wrote:I HATE Brands Hatch, I HATE IT! Bathplug this race track, I am out of here.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 11 Dec 2012, 21:08

The Fox wrote:Mirko did well, given the rate of attrition in the series we should have a good chance of competing in the points. As for Saeed, I already told him he has got to improve quickly.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 11 Dec 2012, 23:34

F1RWRS rules explicitly state that a member cannot be in control of more than one team. Following that bizarre decision to make Melrose President of Tropico, that makes him the effective team principal of Tropico GP, as El Presidente was before him. Therefore Melrose is team principal both there and at MRT, and Melrose is under the control of Wizzie. It's complex because arguably Klon is controlling Tropico, but I don't like it. We have a rule and it should be stuck to, no under the table shenanigans and confusing situations.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 11 Dec 2012, 23:43

By the time the Tropico Saga ends, expect to see Daniel Melrose in a Tropico-on-a-Pole match to find out who will have ownership of the team and the country.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Dec 2012, 23:54

We were already planning to withdraw Tropico GP at the end of the year but I was planning to leave the announcement until Italy so I can do major announcements for MRT, Tropico and Melrose all at once.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 12 Dec 2012, 04:37

FMecha wrote:
Shizuka wrote:
Aerond wrote:And you still think that with Katayama in the other car things will be much better???

Yes. Plus then I'll have the money that'll probably sent in 2016.

Generally, I view Katayama as the most overrated female driver ever. Believe it.
Says the guy that controls another female driver in another series...

You are aware that Shinobu Katayama has more podiums then Pippa Mann does and has raced for a shorter period of time too, she is also one of the few drivers that has managed a hat trick of pole, fastest lap and win which only 2 other drivers have managed since the series started.

Katayma should be faster or equal to Shizuka so they should qualify the car a few times. :mrgreen:

And with luck score some hard earned points this season before Revolution become a midfield team next year.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 12 Dec 2012, 05:13

After Canadaian GP

Barii Mori wrote:Will I be having words with Yamaha? Yes. Am I disappointed that we lost what could have been a podium? Yes. That is all.

Rosco Vantini wrote:That old man, Douglas, he was a big coglione, he should look at the road behind him when blue flags are waving. He cost me at least a point or two. I was angry after the race and gave him a shove, as he was a coglione. Kay Lon was also a coglione and I kicked the drunk tramp in the coglione.

Saeed Al Faisal wrote:We had a poor race but I was only abou 35 second behind my team mate and 10th is quite a good result, in F1 that would be a point.

Prince Falik wrote:7th and 10th? That is not good enough guys, we should have scored points given how few finishers their were. The only positive is that Bosevic finished ahead of Daniel Martins in the faster Sunshine car.

After British Qualifying

Barii Mori wrote:Due to the various accidents at the start, causing red flags to come out,the track was very stop and start. When we did finally get going the track got really crowded and too many idiots ended up blocking people on their flying laps, so we are well out of place, but we will race hard to score points.

Rosco Vantini wrote:Behind a woman again? Although I suppose it is only polite before I breeze past her. I will do well in this race and climb the tables.

Saeed Al Faisal wrote:I never got a clean lap but at least I qualified.

Shinobu Katayama wrote:Marie Simon did an excellent time in prequalifying, just a pity the Shizuka was just a bit slower or we would have been in the British GP. I am trying to presuade Kingfisher to let me test in their car at the up coming Brand Hatch test in return for giving them valuable feedback.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 12 Dec 2012, 09:32

Wizzie wrote:We were already planning to withdraw Tropico GP at the end of the year but I was planning to leave the announcement until Italy so I can do major announcements for MRT, Tropico and Melrose all at once.

Well, things clear then; Is Klon going on with managing Tropico? If not, it should inmediately be passed to the next user on the waiting list. The commission will grant the chance for this user to decide at the end of the season if he wants to keep on with Tropico (renaming the team in any way he wants) or start a team from scratch.

If Klon goes on with Tropico, he won't have any chance to start a team from scratch; however he can rename/relocate the team in any way he wants.

Either way, no merger or any kind of operation that benefits MRT will be allowed.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 12 Dec 2012, 09:40

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:We were already planning to withdraw Tropico GP at the end of the year but I was planning to leave the announcement until Italy so I can do major announcements for MRT, Tropico and Melrose all at once.

Well, things clear then; Is Klon going on with managing Tropico? If not, it should inmediately be passed to the next user on the waiting list. The commission will grant the chance for this user to decide at the end of the season if he wants to keep on with Tropico (renaming the team in any way he wants) or start a team from scratch.

If Klon goes on with Tropico, he won't have any chance to start a team from scratch; however he can rename/relocate the team in any way he wants.

Either way, no merger or any kind of operation that benefits MRT will be allowed.

I never was planning on any merger or stuff like that, although that would be expected from someone who is probably the biggest opportunist on the grid :lol:

In all seriousness though, it is up to Klon as to whether he continues on as the team owner next year or not. If he does continue however, Tropico will NOT continue funding for the team and will sell their stake to the team's German investors. If he decides to wind up operations, MRT might be interested in transferring Nathan Scott to their McDoggle Racing IndyCar team as there's at least one seat available next season.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 12 Dec 2012, 09:44

As far as I am concerned, I will hold on to my entry. The only thing that will change, as far as it is relevant for aerond running the series, is the name of the team.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 12 Dec 2012, 10:20

Klon wrote:As far as I am concerned, I will hold on to my entry. The only thing that will change, as far as it is relevant for aerond running the series, is the name of the team.

That sounds Ok

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 12 Dec 2012, 14:07

By the way, did everyone read the changes concerning Wet races?

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 12 Dec 2012, 14:44

Klon wrote:As far as I am concerned, I will hold on to my entry. The only thing that will change, as far as it is relevant for aerond running the series, is the name of the team.

Ah, I smell you are going to rename it to have BITW involvement, RIGHT? :roll:

Just saying...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 12 Dec 2012, 15:43

Sorry to "disappoint" you, but I'm trying my uttermost to avoid having BITW involved. Sadly, I didn't quite think my cunning plan through because I have little idea what I am going to call the team for next year. All I knew was that the Tropico gimmick had to go.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 12 Dec 2012, 15:53

Klon wrote:Sorry to "disappoint" you, but I'm trying my uttermost to avoid having BITW involved. Sadly, I didn't quite think my cunning plan through because I have little idea what I am going to call the team for next year. All I knew was that the Tropico gimmick had to go.

How about Rokter Baron?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 12 Dec 2012, 21:06

Aerond wrote:By the way, did everyone read the changes concerning Wet races?

For the unknowing, look here. As for the changes, they sound good.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 13 Dec 2012, 11:14

Race tonight! Bring popcorn

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 13 Dec 2012, 11:39

What time? I would love it to be a bit earlier but I know that wouldn't be as good for our friends down under.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 13 Dec 2012, 12:10

10pm Spain time

Post by **Ataxia** » 13 Dec 2012, 12:13

Aerond wrote:Race tonight! Bring popcorn

Definitely gonna go buy popcorn in a bit...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Dec 2012, 12:22

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
Aerond wrote:Race tonight! Bring popcorn

Definitely gonna go buy popcorn in a bit...

Yep, I'm seriously going to hit up a supermarket and buy some popcorn this time, rather than just pretend I will as usual. Ben Fleet in 5th, I'm hoping for some fireworks!!

Post by **tommykl** » 13 Dec 2012, 12:45

Due to exams, I won't be able to follow the race live, but I'll get some popcorn to read the chat records tomorrow afternoon, I just have to

Oh, and 200 000th post on the forum!!

Post by **Nuppiz** » 13 Dec 2012, 12:46

tommykl wrote:Oh, and 200 000th post on the forum!!

Well, at least it wasn't in the word association thread. :lol:

I'll probably join in on the convo despite having no personal interest (drivers, team) in the series.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Dec 2012, 16:05

Nuppiz wrote:
tommykl wrote:Oh, and 200 000th post on the forum!!

Well, at least it wasn't in the word association thread.

I'll probably join in on the convo despite having no personal interest (drivers, team) in the series.

And looking at your current driver roster, it will probably stay that way for a long time yet :lol:

Post by **Nuppiz** » 13 Dec 2012, 16:21

kostas22 wrote:And looking at your current driver roster, it will probably stay that way for a long time yet

Actually, Nick Nurmester is only one official test away from attaining a license. Not that anyone would want to hire him though. :lol:

Most likely my team makes it into F1RWRS before any of my drivers.

Nurminen Management Associates - specializing in mediocre drivers.

Post by **Ataxia** » 13 Dec 2012, 16:33

Nuppiz wrote:
kostas22 wrote:And looking at your current driver roster, it will probably stay that way for a long time yet

Actually, Nick Nurmester is only one official test away from attaining a license. Not that anyone would want to hire him though. Most likely my team makes it into F1RWRS before any of my drivers.

Nurminen Management Associates - specializing in mediocre drivers.

If you look at the RDS thread...you might have one hope.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 13 Dec 2012, 18:14

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:
kostas22 wrote:And looking at your current driver roster, it will probably stay that way for a long time yet

Actually, Nick Nurmester is only one official test away from attaining a license. Not that anyone would want to hire him though. Most likely my team makes it into F1RWRS before any of my drivers.

Nurminen Management Associates - specializing in mediocre drivers.

If you look at the RDS thread...you might have one hope.

Maybe, although it remains to be seen that it wasn't a fluke like Võsu's two podiums.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Dec 2012, 20:19

Warren Hughes wrote:What time? I would love it to be a bit earlier but I know that wouldn't be as good for our friends down under.

Actually, having the races an hour earlier would be better for Lappy and I as we'd usually be up by that point anyway. Annoyingly, today's the Friday where we don't have English first which means we'll probably miss the entire scond half of the race.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Dec 2012, 20:35

Race start is now less than 30 minutes away on the official F1 Rejects Chatroom