F1RWRS -- 2015 Season - ROTY voting!!!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:24

DanielPT wrote:I reckon that staying put with that Footwork chassis might be the downfall of Sunshine (thanks to SuperAguri ). Still, that is one changeable thing for 2016!

Well, you've been saved by the fact that DGNgineering's chassis isn't any better. MRT on the other hand... :lol:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:36

Wizzie wrote:
DanielPT wrote:I reckon that staying put with that Footwork chassis might be the downfall of Sunshine (thanks to SuperAguri ). Still, that is one changeable thing for 2016!

Well, you've been saved by the fact that DGNgineering's chassis isn't any better. MRT on the other hand...

I am counting on being able to finish a few races more than MRT.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:41

DanielPT wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
DanielPT wrote:I reckon that staying put with that Footwork chassis might be the downfall of Sunshine (thanks to SuperAguri ). Still, that is one changeable thing for 2016!

Well, you've been saved by the fact that DGNgineering's chassis isn't any better. MRT on the other hand...

I am counting on being able to finish a few races more than MRT.

Unless your reliability is like 12, I don't see that happening :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:42

My prediction for 2015; After all of their pre-season mouthing off, karma will kick in and MRT will finish last in the championship with an endless run of DNFs.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:45

I don't think that will happen, but who knows.
Can the engine still be swapped, or is the market closed by now?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:46

Shizuka wrote:I don't think that will happen, but who knows.
Can the engine still be swapped, or is the market closed by now?

As long as you haven't upgraded it yet, you're allowed to change it as many times as you want before pre-season testing begins and get a 100% refund as it hasn't been used yet. If you have upgraded it however, then I have no idea how it works.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:47

So then Aerond, when will the first pre-season test take place?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:48

kostas22 wrote:My prediction for 2015; After all of their pre-season mouthing off, karma will kick in and MRT will finish last in the championship with an endless run of DNFs.

If karma applied to the F1RWRS, then Jones Racing should be sent to Pre-Qualifying with immediate effect :lol:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:49

Wizzie wrote:As long as you haven't upgraded it yet, you're allowed to change it as many times as you want before pre-season testing begins and get a 100% refund as it hasn't been used yet. If you have upgraded it however, then I have no idea how it works.

I mean, that Honda is looking promising. I have 515 credits, if I ditch the Ford HB I, that gives me 225, and the engine costs 600. Intriguing. And nobody (!) chose a Honda engine, so this is why I'm thinking about it...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:53

Shizuka wrote:
Wizzie wrote:As long as you haven't upgraded it yet, you're allowed to change it as many times as you want before pre-season testing begins and get a 100% refund as it hasn't been used yet. If you have upgraded it however, then I have no idea how it works.

I mean, that Honda is looking promising. I have 515 credits, if I ditch the Ford HB I, that gives me 225, and the engine costs 600. Intriguing. And nobody (!) chose a Honda engine, so this is why I'm thinking about it...

Act of precedent says go for it and good luck to you. MRT/Horizon did it in 2013 when they swapped their chassis at the last minute whilst Eurobrun changed the chassis for Autodynamics this morning with no problem.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:01

Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with our package?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:04

Phoenix wrote:Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with our package?

That's the thing. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it. To the point where you muppets might actually be title contenders for 2015. Hence why I spent the next ten minutes after doing my base estimates cleaning up what was left of my jaw from the floor.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:07

Wizzie wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with our package?

That's the thing. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it. To the point where you muppets might actually be title contenders for 2015. Hence why I spent the next ten minutes after doing my base estimates cleaning up what was left of my jaw from the floor.

Now they have a half decent driver in Pippa Mann that isn't really as ridiculous as it seems.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:08

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with our package?

That's the thing. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it. To the point where you muppets might actually be title contenders for 2015. Hence why I spent the next ten minutes after doing my base estimates cleaning up what was left of my jaw from the floor.

Now they have a half decent driver in Pippa Mann that isn't really as ridiculous as it seems.

More to the point, their car/driver combo on base stats alone is now the second fastest car on the grid. :shock:

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:09

Wizzie wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with our package?

That's the thing. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it. To the point where you muppets might actually be title contenders for 2015. Hence why I spent the next ten minutes after doing my base estimates cleaning up what was left of my jaw from the floor.

If that indeed happened, it would surely be amazing to come from scoring only 3 points to this.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:18

Phoenix wrote:Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with my package?

That's what she said.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:22

Phoenix wrote:Wizzie, may I know what's wrong with our package?

Wizzie wrote:
That's the thing. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it. To the point where you muppets might actually be title contenders for 2015. Hence why I spent the next ten minutes after doing my base estimates cleaning up what was left of my jaw from the floor.

eurobrun wrote:
Now they have a half decent driver in Pippa Mann that isn't really as ridiculous as it seems.

Wizzie wrote:
More to the point, their car/driver combo on base stats alone is now the second fastest car on the grid.

Pippa Mann manages her own team yet goes and drives a potentially title-winning package elsewhere? Maybe I ought to stick to driver management...

By the way, based on base packages, where have Foxdale ended up?

And are we still having to email upgrade packages rather than just posting on here?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:23

dr-baker wrote: By the way, based on base packages, where have Foxdale ended up?

19th. Yeah, you're gonna be in for a shite year.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:25

Wizzie wrote:
dr-baker wrote: By the way, based on base packages, where have Foxdale ended up?

19th. Yeah, you're gonna be in for a shite year.

Hurry up and publish this goddamn league table already!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:28

Wow... and I thought 2012 in F1 was one hell of a crazy year...

Anyway, you have to e-mail Aerond with the upgrades you want to apply. He said any petitions done on the thread would not be attended.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:31

Now, who is last on this list.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:31

Now, who is last on this list.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:33

kostas22 wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
dr-baker wrote: By the way, based on base packages, where have Foxdale ended up?

19th. Yeah, you're gonna be in for a shite year.

Hurry up and publish this goddamn league table already!

Well, since you guys want it, here it is. Note that there are no upgrades and that the speed rating of the chassis has been converted from a driver boost to a power boost/penalty with 1 point above or below 5 = +/- 10bhp for the sake of making my life easier. For the record, this may end up not replicating real life results at all in any way and should only be treated as a guide. Ties are broken by whoever had the higher base power to start off with.

1. MRT: 780
2. Aeroracing: 750
3. DGNgineering: 730
4. Kamaha: 730
5. Sunshine: 710
6. Kingfisher: 690
7. ArrowTech: 690
8. Prospec: 680
9. Boxtel: 680
10. Tropico: 680
11. Jones: 680
12. Simpson: 670
13. HRT: 670
14. Gillet: 670
=15. Autodynamics: 650
=15. Shonan: 650
17. Mecha: 640
18. Alitalia: 635
19. Foxdale: 630
20. Dofasco: 590

Post by **Londoner** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:34

Why do I get the feeling that this so-called pecking order is just an excuse for Melrose to big up his team and flatten everyone else? :evil:

EDIT: Oh what a surprise, MRT are top...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:35

East Londoner wrote:Why do I get the feeling that this so-called pecking order is just an excuse for Melrose to big up his team and flatten everyone else?

EDIT: Oh what a surprise, MRT are top...

740bhp + 40 bonus bhp for having a chassis rating of 9 = Win for me. :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:39

Our donkey of an engine may be really slow, but it's the most reliable in the field. Hopefully we can escape Pre-Q and use attrition to our advantage.

Edit: Ok no wait WHAT?! We're behind Shonan?! Your formula must be fundamentally flawed somehow. Unless I missed something, they kept their engine, which was the same as ours. And we sold them our old Fortis. It's impossible for them to be faster than us!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:42

kostas22 wrote:Our donkey of an engine may be really slow, but it's the most reliable in the field. Hopefully we can escape Pre-Q and use attrition to our advantage.

Edit: Ok no wait WHAT?! We're behind Shonan?! Your formula must be fundamentally flawed somehow. Unless I missed something, they kept their engine, which was the same as ours. And we sold them our old Fortis. It's impossible for them to be faster than us!

They ditched the Ford for the Honda about an hour ago. There's no limit as to how many transactions a team can do in the market phase so long as they're done before pre-season testing begins

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:45

Wizzie wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Our donkey of an engine may be really slow, but it's the most reliable in the field. Hopefully we can escape Pre-Q and use attrition to our advantage.

Edit: Ok no wait WHAT?! We're behind Shonan?! Your formula must be fundamentally flawed somehow. Unless I missed something, they kept their engine, which was the same as ours. And we sold them our old Fortis. It's impossible for them to be faster than us!

They ditched the Ford for the Honda about an hour ago. There's no limit as to how many transactions a team can do in the market phase so long as they're done before pre-season testing begins

RODA!!!! You totally screwed this team's finances. I can't afford a new bloody engine and chassis at the same time thanks to your idiot decisions while in charge of this team. Now I'm being left in everyone's dust because of YOU!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:58

Well, just as well, that Foxdale are not at base performance then!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:02

6th?! Damn! That'll be amazing. And Dofaco in Plum last? Yep, guessed that as soon as I saw what they purchased. They went sideways whilt all the teams around them last year jumped up.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:11

BRIAN HART ANNOUNCES RETURN TO F1RWRS IN 2016

Having missed the 2015 season as an engine manufacturer because he lacked the time and resources to complete a move to normally aspirated engines by 2015, Brian Hart told us today that he will be more than happy to return to F1RWRS in 2016. "Time was always going to be a problem to an idependent manufacturer like us, so in the end we prefered to focus on next year." Asked about what type of engine Hart would introduce he said, "We´re working on not one, but on rebuilding two engines; one will be the Hart V10 used by Jordan in the 1994 F1 Season and the other one will be the Hart V8 used by Footwork Arrows in the 1995 season". This will be the return of Brian Hart after they competed with a Hart 415T up to 2014.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:23

dr-baker wrote:Well, just as well, that Foxdale are not at base performance then!

And I have just sent an email off to Aerond for further upgrades to both engine horsepower and chassis reliability. I just need to spend some credits on the Mann siblings' performances now...

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:29

AdrianSutil wrote:So then Aerond, when will the first pre-season test take place?

Mmmmh... give me a break! No, seriously; I have a gig on September 1st and another one the week after (both involving travel), so probably around 10th September.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:31

Wizzie wrote:Well, since you guys want it, here it is. Note that there are no upgrades and that the speed rating of the chassis has been converted from a driver boost to a power boost/penalty with 1 point above or below 5 = +/- 10bhp for the sake of making my life easier. For the record, this may end up not replicating real life results at all in any way and should only be treated as a guide. Ties are broken by whoever had the higher base power to start off with.

1. MRT: 780
2. Aeroracing: 750
3. DGNgineering: 730
4. Kamaha: 730
5. Sunshine: 710
6. Kingfisher: 690
7. ArrowTech: 690
8. Prospec: 680
9. Boxtel: 680
10. Tropico: 680
11. Jones: 680
12. Simpson: 670
13. HRT: 670
14. Gillet: 670
=15. Autodynamics: 650
=15. Shonan: 650
17. Mecha: 640
18. Alitalia: 635
19. Foxdale: 630
20. Dofasco: 590

That is WRONG as the Speed Rating column in the chassis list now affects drivers grip and not bhp, you´d better correct that before start confusing every team owner around :lol:

...

(Thank god only very few people uses your consultacy firm)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:33

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Well, since you guys want it, here it is. Note that there are no upgrades and that the speed rating of the chassis has been converted from a driver boost to a power boost/penalty with 1 point above or below 5 = +/- 10bhp for the sake of making my life easier. For the record, this may end up not replicating real life results at all in any way and should only be treated as a guide. Ties are broken by whoever had the higher base power to start off with.

1. MRT: 780
2. Aeroracing: 750
3. DGNgineering: 730
4. Kamaha: 730
5. Sunshine: 710
6. Kingfisher: 690
7. ArrowTech: 690
8. Prospec: 680
9. Boxtel: 680
10. Tropico: 680
11. Jones: 680
12. Simpson: 670
13. HRT: 670
14. Gillet: 670
=15. Autodynamics: 650
=15. Shonan: 650
17. Mecha: 640
18. Alitalia: 635
19. Foxdale: 630
20. Dofasco: 590

That is WRONG as the Speed Rating column in the chassis list now affects drivers grip and not bhp...

I know it does but since one can easily convert between the two, it doesn't make that much of a difference for all intents and purposes.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 23 Aug 2012, 12:25

Just as a reminder, what teams are in pre-qualifying for 2015?

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 23 Aug 2012, 13:04

I'm hoping and predicting a random pre-qualifying outcomes this season.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 23 Aug 2012, 13:34

tristan1117 wrote:Just as a reminder, what teams are in pre-qualifying for 2015?

For the first race of the season these teams will participate in the Pre-Qualifying session:

Boxtel Engineering
Scuderia Alitalia
Dofasco Lukoil Racing
Kingfisher Racing
Mecha Grand Prix
Tropico Grand Prix powered by CR Motorsport
Shonan DMS Racing
Gulf Simpson Motorsports
Red Bull Autodynamics GP

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 23 Aug 2012, 14:30

Autosport wrote:No change for Kamaha
While other team bosses were in the office making phone calls to secure engine and chassis deals. Barii Mori was in a bar in the shadow of Tsukuba mountain and was drinking away, he said to us "We have a great Engine with the Yamaha OX10, it is so good that we even allowed Yamaha to sell last years engine to some upstarts called Simpson Motorsports and our Chassis I think with the recent rule changes will come good this year. We have two fantastic drivers in the form of Nicolas Steele, who will win a race this year, you mark my words, and me who will try to win a race to get rid of the tag of most talented driver not to win a race. We have also signed with Sumitomo tyres who are racing under their Dunlop brand. So all in all we are looking at a good run. Another Sake my good man.".

Kamaha to swap garages with Foxdale?

There are rumours going around that Kamaha will swap garages with Foxdale to stop Sammy Jones and Barii Mori from killing each other as they current have garages next to each other. Although we understand that the numbers will stay the same, but the FRWRS management have refused to comment with one member saying "Oi, get off my land, can't a man have a cup of tea in peace?"

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Aug 2012, 16:49

Shonan steps down as title sponsor - still keeps itself on board, but this results in racing as "Revolution Engineering", but the team will be recognised as Revolution-Honda.