Grand Prix Rejects

f1-gast wrote:Ok i need some feedback, i finished the story about Eyckmans, can be downloaded here https://mega.co.nz/#!b15X1JyD!Clf4RQ8oO ... nSxRjfDwKI

is it oke ?
Should it write diffrent ?

Gramatically it needs quite a lot of work, maybe by someone that has English as their first language (i.e. I can do this). Also maybe you should use your Dutch connections to go find out some more information! Is Wim really telling the truth? Or is he just a bit ashamed that he tried and failed to get an F1 team going?

Also, the pages should probably have an accuracy classification, as in, whether a team was merely rumoured, only had some brief plans, had made it all the way to production, all the way to a race weekend, etc.

So, you could have something like; Rumoured / Concept / Stillborn / Completed

So, for example, Eyckmans F1 would only be rumoured, Trebron would be a Concept, the Honda RA099 would be Stillborn and the Lola T97/30 would be Completed.

I know my Grammar sucks if i need to write down a complete story can't help it.

Believe me i tried as hard as i could to get more information about Eyckmans but it seems actually no one seems to know him from the period 92 - 99.....
I actually asked Olav Mol, the Dutch F1 gourou, about this and he only said "It rings a bell" but i did actually know more then him !

I agree with the accuracy classification.
Haven't had thought about it yet, gonna put the teams the classification

Wim Eyckmans was Belgian, right? I think you'll have to search with Belgian journalists and racing magazines, but i don't know which of them already existed back then. Perhaps Turbo Magazine (which i think is the biggest magazine, and at least i know it existed in the nineties, unlike most other magazines) has some connections or knows about some rumours.

Stramala wrote:

f1-gast wrote:Ok i need some feedback, i finished the story about Eyckmans, can be downloaded here https://mega.co.nz/#!b15X1JyD!Clf4RQ8oO ... nSxRjfDwKI

is it oke ?
Should it write diffrent ?

Gramatically it needs quite a lot of work, maybe by someone that has English as their first language (i.e. I can do this). Also maybe you should use your Dutch connections to go find out some more information! Is Wim really telling the truth? Or is he just a bit ashamed that he tried and failed to get an F1 team going?

Also, the pages should probably have an accuracy classification, as in, whether a team was merely rumoured, only had some brief plans, had made it all the way to production, all the way to a race weekend, etc.

So, you could have something like; Rumoured / Concept / Stillborn / Completed

So, for example, Eyckmans F1 would only be rumoured, Trebron would be a Concept, the Honda RA099 would be Stillborn and the Lola T97/30 would be Completed.

The categorisation sounds like a good idea, although it could be slightly refined - I'd keep the rumoured and concept categories, then I think that there could be a category for cancelled cars, which would cover cars like Brabham's BT51 (the car that they originally intended to use in 1983 but had to abandon when the flat floor regulations were passed) - i.e. to cover cars that got to the point where they were partially or completely built but abandoned before they were completed due to some external event impacting the team.
After that, there could be a test bed category for cars that were built with the sole intention of being used for testing (that would cover cars like the Honda RC101 and RA099, Toyota's TF101 or the Alpine-Renault A500). Last of all could be that completed category, which could cover cars that were entered but withdrawn (e.g. the Brabham BT46C or McLaren M26E, which were tested but withdrawn from the races due to design flaws) or cars like the T97/30, which were entered but failed to start for various reasons.

Lotus 88 for being so inovotive, it got banned, so that could come under completed. They tested it at long beach and silverstone where the R.A.C let the car race but banned it when FISA told them the event shall be stripped of world championship status if you let that thing race. So they banned it

roblomas52 wrote:Lotus 88 for being so inovotive, it got banned, so that could come under completed. They tested it at long beach and silverstone where the R.A.C let the car race but banned it when FISA told them the event shall be stripped of world championship status if you let that thing race. So they banned it

The Lotus 88 is an interesting car in as much as the question of whether it really was legal or not is perhaps still open to question (although there are many who would argue that it was legal, I do recall seeing one or two figures coming up with plausible arguments that the car was technically in breach of the rules on moveable aerodynamics).

It is an interesting what if car though - although the concept did have potential, from what I can recall the actual times that the Lotus drivers set when they tried the cars out in the free practise sessions were not that much of an improvement (if any) over the times that the drivers were setting with the more conventional car that Lotus were using at the time.

Does anyone know how i can get in contact with Silvio Berlusconi ?

I found out some well at least weird rumours where he was involved with.

f1-gast wrote:Does anyone know how i can get in contact with Silvio Berlusconi ?

I found out some well at least weird rumours where he was involved with.

Matteo Messina Denaro would probably know! I don't know, maybe you should ask around some escort services in Milan, they'll probably know.

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Unracedf1.com is on hold for now , dont have the time to make articles contact people etc, i hope somewhere in September / October i can continue.
Site will be online somewhere during the summer months, and articles that are already done will be published.

https://www.facebook.com/UnracedF1 =D

Please like , and invite people !

Hopefully this might help!


Motoring News 24th February 1988.

The 1988 season continues
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Motoring News 30th March 1988.


Motoring News 30th March 1988.


Autosport 31st March 1988.


Motoring News 6th April 1988.


Motoring News 13th April 1988.

bigears wrote:
Motoring News 13th April 1988.

I accidently misread that headline with an extra 'u' inserted somewhere in it. But as this is a metcalfe-friendly forum, I won't say where.

Found this, don't know if its already been linked, but I think its an OK source

http://www.statsf1.com/en/test-car.aspx?alpha=A

I think that site was already harvested. But it is still awesome to see through again and again on the abandoned projects

Has the HRT F113 been added to the database? I realise there's not much information about it: do we even know if it was Carbotech or Formtech building the chassis?

CBBCISACE could help you in that.

Havent read his posts in a while. Just check the HRT thread for his input

We have to put this project on hold and maybe abandon it.

We don't have the time the coming weeks / months to actually look at it.
Sorry guys.

f1-gast wrote:We have to put this project on hold and maybe abandon it.

We don't have the time the coming weeks / months to actually look at it.
Sorry guys.

Abandon it? Surely someone can take it over and continue it.

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Sorry, man. I am very sorry to hear that I hope the remaining time to spend with your girlfriend is a very happy one.

Ah man thats awful to hear Spend as much time as you can with her and enjoy it

Sorry to hear that f1-gast, my heart goes out to the pair of you. Spent as mug of your time with her and do the things she always wanted to do.

To be clear she is not my Girlfriend, but im very close to her, so it still hurts alot.
Thanks for the endorsements (if this is written correct)

Gonna try to upload atleast a simple template for UnracedF1 the comming 2 weeks.
Add the list, sorted by year , with the cars / teams/ projects and if i got any information i will add it to it.

Not sure if i can add all the photo's to it.

Offering my condolences and prayers, very sorry to hear.

Very sorry to read that mate. I hope your project eventually becomes a success.

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Got wordpress installed on my domain, will work thr comming weeks on the design with a friend of mine.

In the meantime you can find Unracedf1 on fb facebook.com/unracedf1
If you like it , like it , the more likes we get the bigger the community will be.

Very interesting:

http://italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=44771&cat=1

BUMP


I finally have sparetime and full of energy to make unracedf1.com a actual site.
I made a start with it your opinion please !!! Just understand how it works haha.

www.unracedf1.com

The website is great and it formats really well on mobile devices. The design is simple and when the colour scheme of the site is added in, I think it works very well.

Good job!! I'm ready to read a lot of interesting stories on this wonderful website!

I guess this post in autosport forum is made by you, isnt' it? If not, I think is very interesting:

http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19601 ... p-mystery/

Yeah at the moment im working on some small stories but with X-mas i will release the first big story i think.
But im already happy people are reacting enthusiast about the site.

What i do hear many times is finally a webpage for it with the stories.
So it gives me much more energy to complete it and i actually enjoy it alot again <3

And yes that Phoenix topic on Autosport is mine haha , only thing is that many info needs to be confirmed before the story can be made.

In the 12th February 2015 issue of Autosport, an article on MiddleBridge attempt to race in 1987 with the 86 Benetton is featured. Can try to scan it and upload it if anyone is interested.

gnrpoison wrote:In the 12th February 2015 issue of Autosport, an article on MiddleBridge attempt to race in 1987 with the 86 Benetton is featured. Can try to scan it and upload it if anyone is interested.

I read that article already and it was a fascinating article. I never knew that they had this previous attempt at entering F1 prior to owning Brabham in its death throes.

dr-baker wrote:

gnrpoison wrote:In the 12th February 2015 issue of Autosport, an article on MiddleBridge attempt to race in 1987 with the 86 Benetton is featured. Can try to scan it and upload it if anyone is interested.

I read that article already and it was a fascinating article. I never knew that they had this previous attempt at entering F1 prior to owning Brabham in its death throes.

Would have been nice to see if Pirro's prediction of a top 10 at Monza would have been possible. Had it been successful I wonder if Brabham would have folded earlier?

If you would upload it would be cool !
Since i cant buy the magazine here....

Im filling the site now with the teams , projects etc.

Im finally reached the 50's though im a bit stuck. What should i do with teams such as AFM(1952) Ace Garage - Rotherham(1959) they did enter a race but failed to qualify or finish the race. Though they used a car that already have been raced.

Recomment them as unracedf1 ? or not ?

Or to give an even better example the AAW Racing Team team from 1974. Leo Kinnunen was the driver of it.
Though i always though he was a Surtees driver. He is since the car was a Surtees TS16. He failed all the races he entered to qualify.

Is this a team itself or not ?