Grand Prix Rejects

Question 35 is worth 3 points, 2 points for extra information.

Have three replies so far. Some good guesses and some very funny answers (esp by dinizintheoven)

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Points table to come soon

Japanese Engines

1 - Japanese engine tuners HKS built an F1 spec engine, what was unusual about the testing they did with it? (1 point)

Fairly straight forward one this. As they lacked an F1 chassis to test in, they used a year old Japanese F3000 chassis.

2 - Can you name the chassis they used? (1 point for constructor, 2 extra points for full chassis number)

The Lola T91/50, which T stands for Type, 91 is the year and /50 is a Formula 3000 / Nippon car.

3 - Can you name the Japanese driver who tested it? (20 (yes twenty) points)

Surprisingly no one got this one, I did email HKS in Japan and the UK and got vague responses however it was shown on a sign above the car in the HKS museum, so I find out from a blurry picture that Mogi Kazou (in Japanese) was the driver.

4 - A driver testing a future F1 engine, he should be good? Right? What was his best F3000 result (in any series)? (5 points)

He only raced for two seasons in F3000 twice, in 1988 and 1990. His best result was an 8th at the 3rd Fuji Race in 1990 in which scored no points, there were 15 finishers. His best qualifying position was 16th at the Mine circuit in 1988, except that only 17 cars entered that race. He did win several Japanese touring car championships in different classes.

5 - Truck builders Isuzu also built an engine, what F1 team tested it? (1 point, 1 bonus point for the chassis number, 1 bonus point for driver)

It was Lotus, the chassis was the 102C (modified from the V8 Judds it used to take the V12 engine) and the driver was Johnny Herbert. Isuzu built it as a test exercise to see if they could, it was bench tested and produced about 755hp at 13,500 rpm. Lotus saw the engine in May and it was tested at the Silverstone track in 1991 where Mclaren and Ayrton Senna and Leyton House with Mauricio Gugelmin were also testing. In terms of lap times, Senna did a 1:24.7, Gugelmin did a 1:25.4 and the Lotus did a 1:30 (which was slower then the slowest PQ time for that years British GP), however the car had 80kg of batteries on board and had race tyres and quiet a lot of fuel.

6 - What road car did the engine nearly end up in? (5 points)

Gordon Murray did consider the engine for the McLaren F1, but McLaren decided that they needed a engine from a company with a track record.

7 - Another Japanese car company decided to build not one but two F1 spec engines that was never raced or tested, who where they? (5 points)

Suzuki built 2 engines, they are both shown in the private Suzuki museum in Japan. It seems that they were built they as a test exercise.

8 - Can you give the engine configurations? (3 points, 5 bonus points each for engine model)

A 3.5 Litre V12 engine called the YR91 built in 1991 and a 3.0 Litre V10 engines called the YR95 built in, yes you guessed it 1995.

9 - Which Engine company really built the Subaru F1 engine? (1 point)

Most people got this one, it was Motori Moderni, who built a 3.5 litre Flat 12 engine. Minardi looked like they would use the engine and race as Minardi Subaru, thankfully they switched to Coloni and bought half the team.

10 - What was it's best result (1 point)

Again most people got this with a big fat DNPQ!

11 - How many times did it get this? (3 points)

Bertrand Gachot DNPQed the engine 8 times. In America he failed to do a proper lap and was shown as doing a lap of 5 minutes, 15.01 seconds... and was 9th of 9th. In Brazil he was 7th of 9th sandwiched between the Eurobruns and ahead of the Life but 9.8 seconds off pre qualifying. San Marino he was 5th but 5.4 seconds off PQing. Monaco 8th, 11 seconds off. Canada 7th, 14.4 seconds off. Mexico 7th, 1.3 seconds off. France he was 8th having failed to set a proper lap and got a time of 4 minutes and 2.465 seconds. Britian he as 8th, 7.3 seconds off.

12 - Honda had some reasonable success but what was the first race that a Honda engine raced at as a non works entry? (3 point year, 3 point circuit, 6 points driver)

Most people said Spirit, however when Honda were racing during their final year in F1 in 1968, in Mexico they lent a spare car to Joakim Bonnier as his McLaren BRM developed a problem, it raced under the Joakim Bonnier Racing Team banner, so technically it was not a works entry although as it was a Honda Chassis and Honda engined car it scored 2 points for Honda as Jo bonnier got a 5th.

13 - Everyone knows Damon Hill getting 2nd for the Arrows Yamaha, ignoring this, what was the best result for a Yamaha engine? (2 points, 2 points for team and 2 points for driver and 3 points for circuit)

Mark Blundell got 3rd at the 1994 Spanish GP driving a Tyrrell 022

14 - Yamaha used the Judd GV10 as a base for all its V10 engines, before then they had their own designed V8 and V12 engines, what was the best result for them? (2 points, 3 points for team, 3 points for driver, 5 points for circuit)

It was Martin Brundle, who got a 5th for Brabham using the Yamaha OX99 V12 engine at the 1991 Japanese GP.

Japanese Formula

Note - Catergory means any of the top tier series that Super Formula has raced under.

15 - It is now known as Super Formula, but what has Japanese top tier single wheel catergory also been known as? (1 point per answer)

In reverse order Formula Nippon, Japanese Formula 3000, Japanese Formula 2 anbd All Japan Formula 2000

16 - Who won the most championships in this catergory? (3 points, 2 points for the number of times he won, 1 bonus points for the years (listing more then he won will result in a -2 point penalty)

Kazuyoshi Hoshino who won Formula 2000 in 1975 (aged 28, beating Noritake Takahara with 1 more win, he won 2 out of the 5 races) and 1977 (aged 30, beating Kunimitsu Takahashi and winning 3 out of the 8 races), Formula 2 in 1978 (winning 3 out of the 7 races and beating Masahiro Hasemi), Formula 3000 in 1987 (aged 40, beating Aguri Suzuki and winning 4 of the 9 races), 1990 (aged 43, winning 6 of the 10 races) and 1993 (he was 46 years old and beat Eddie Irvine with two wins to Irvines 1... Irvine never got another chance to win Japanese F3000)

17 - What was his best F1 result? (1 point for result, circuit and year, 3 points for Chassis)

11th place at the 1977 Japanese GP in the Kojima KE009 with the usual Ford Cosworth DFR V8. He was 2 laps down behind Kunimitsu Takahashi but ahead of Alex Riberio would was another 2 laps back.

18 - Who was the first non Japanese driver to win a championship in this catergory? (3 points)

It was Geoff Lees who won the 1983 Formula Two championship beating Kazuyoshi Hoshino. He first raced in the series in 1981 and spent 10 years there. He never won it again but was 3rd in 1986, he won his last race in 1988 and scored his last point in 1991.

19 - What was his best result in F1? (2 points, 2 point for whom and 2 points for circuit)

A 7th in the 1979 Germany GP for Tyrell in their 009 car, finishing ahead of Gillies Villneuve in the Ferrari and team mate Didier Pironoi. It was a one off race as he replaced the unwell Jean Pierre Jarier.

20 - How many catergory champions raced in F1? (3 points, 1 point each for naming them)

15

Noritake Takahara (74, 76), best result 9th at the 1976 Japanese GP with Team Surtees in the Surtees TS19
Kazuyoshi Hoshino (75, 77, 78, 87, 90, 93), best result 11th at the 1977 Japanese GP with Heroes Racing in the Kojima KE009
Masahiro Hasemi (80), best result 11th at the 1976 Japanese GP with Kojima Engineering in the Kojima KE007
Satoru Nakajima (81, 82, 84, 85, 86), best result 4th at the 1987 British GP with Lotus in the Lotus 99T and at the 1989 Australian GP in the Lotus 101
Geoff Lees (83), best result 7th at the 1979 Germany GP with Tyrell in the Tyrell 009
Aguri Suzuki (88), best result 3rd at the 1990 Japanese GP with Larrousse in the Lola LC90
Ukyou Katayama (91), best result 5th at the 1994 Brazilian and San Marino GPs with Tyrell in the Tyrrell 022
Marco Apicella (94), best result a retirement in the 1993 Italian GP with Jordan in the Jordan 193
Toshio Suzuki (95), best result 12th in the 1993 Japanese GP with Larousse in the Larrousse LH93
Ralf Schumacher (96), best result 6 wins in the 2001 San Marino, Canadian and German GPs with Williams in the Williams FW23, in the 2002 Malaysian GP in the Williams FW24 and the 2003 European and French GPs in the Williams FW25.
Pedro de la Rosa (97), best result 2nd in the 2006 Hungarian GP with McLaren in the McLaren MP4-21
Tora Takagi (00), best result 7th in the 1999 Australian GP with Arrows in the Arrows A20
Ralph Firman (02), best result 8th in the 2003 Spanish GP with Jordan in the Jordan EJ13
André Lotterer (11), best result a retirement in the 2014 Belgium GP with Caterham in the Caterham CT05
Kazuki Nakajima (12, 14), best result 6th in the 2008 Australian GP with Williams in the Williams FW30

21 - Out of these what was the best F1 championship position they managed to get? (1 point for name, 1 point for result, 1 point for year)

Obviously Ralf Schumacher who was 4th in 2001 and 2002

22 - Who was the first driver to compete in this catergory to win an F1 race? (5 points, extra points for details)

Peter Gethin won a race in the 1971 Italian GP with Yardley Team BRM in the BRM P160 and did a one off entry in Japanese Formula 2000 in Round 1 at Fuji in 1975 drivng a March 752 with a BMW M12 engine racing for team Victory Circle Club. He finished 8th, 2 laps down.

As he won the race before he did F2, I would also accept...

Jacques Laffite who also raced in Japanese Formula 2000 in Round 5 at Suzuka in 1975 driving a March 752 with a Mitsubishi R39B2 also for Victory Circle Club, he was 7th also 2 laps down. He would go on to win the 1977 Swedish GP with Ligier in the Ligier JS7.

23 - Who was the first driver to win a race in this catergory and to win an F1 race? (5 points, extra points for details)

Lots of people said Ralf Schumacher and its not a bad guess. However it was Eddie Irvine who won Round 4 at Mine in Formula 3000 in 1991 and would win for Ferrari at the Australian GP in 1999.

24 - What catergory driver got the best results in F1? (3 points)

A lot of people forget that Michael Schumacher did a one off F3000 race in 1991.

25 - What did they get in this catergory? (3 points)

A second place, qualifying 4th on the grid (behind Ukyou Katayama 3rd, Naoki Hattori and Ross Cheever who grabbed pole)

26 - What did they get in F1? (2 point)

7 Championships, 91 Wins, 68 Poles, 77 FLAPs, etc...

27 - Who was better then him on the day? (4 points per correct answer)

Akihiko Nakaya who scored the Fastest Lap for Mooncraft in his Lola T91/50 with a Mugen MF308 (and went from 7th to 3rd) and Ross Cheever who won the race and got Pole, he drove for the same team but used a Reynard 91D with a Mugen MF308 compared to Michael who used a Ralt RT23 with the Mugen MF308 Engine. Although you could add Ukyou Katayama and Naoki Hattori too. Hattori better then Schumacher not a phrase you would hear every day.

Japanese F1 Teams

28 - Middlebridge, Footwork and Leyton House all had teams in Japanese F3000 and would go on to F1, but was their primary business? (2 points each)

Middlebridge was engineering and construction firm, Leyton House was real estate and Footwork were Logistics (and still exist to this day with the same colours and logo).

29 - How many times did Middlebridge attempt to enter F1? (1 point, 2 points for information)

Twice, both times with John MacDonald who ran the Middlebrideg F3000 team, first they attempted to buy a Benetton B186. You can read a better story of that here (http://wap.hupu.com/bbs/12001286.html) and after Joachim Luhti was arrested for Fraud, the ownership of Brabahm was up in the air, but Middlebridge bought the team for 1m pounds with money borrowed from Landhurst leasing, this despite Middlebrideg being owned by billionaire Koji Nakauchi. Although Middlebridge ran the team, Landhurst Leasing owned the team.

30 - What road car did Middlebridge produce briefly? (5 points)

Koji Nakauchi loved British sports cars and Middlebridge bought the rights to the Reliant (yes of the Robin fame) Scimitar in 1988 and for 2 years made 78 cars with one being given to Princess Anne.

31 - What blue was the Leyton House car? (2 points)

Aquamarine blue, Tamiya used to have a paint called Leyton house Blue however this place sell a Aquamarine Blue Leyton House colour matched paint. http://www.zero-paints.com/Leyton_House ... --124.html

32 - Maki never raced in F1, but how many times did Maki not DNQ in last place? (Ignore Did not Arrive or Car Not Readys) (4 points, 4 bonus points for the races)

Once. Maki attempted to qualify 10 times, it was only at the British GP in 1974 their last race (they had entered Monaco that year but failed to show up). New Zealander Howden Ganley managed to drag the car into 32nd place ahead of British Mike Wilds in the Ensign Ford, Finn Leo Kinnunen in the AAW Racing Teams Surtees Ford and British Guy Edwards in the Embassey Racing Hill in the Lola Ford. He was 1.3 seconds off the pace from qualifying the car.

33 - It did race in a non championship race, where did it finish? (3 points plus 2 points for extra information)

Tony Trimmer raced in the 1975 Swiss GP at the Dijon circuit in France... he qualified last in 16th and finished 13th a mere 6 laps down and 4 laps behind Rolf Stommelen in the Hill Ford.

34 - During the 90s, a number of Japanese teams tried to get into F1 as a constructor can you name them all? (2 points per correct answer)

Yamaha (92) - Yamaha attempted to take over Brabham, the then President blocked the move and aborted their own engines, working with Judd and their GV10 engine.
Trebron (93) - Although named after Hamy Norbert who designed the car, it was funded by a Japanese consortium which included the Mitsubishi group. Never got passed model stage.
TOM'S (94) - The Toyota engine tuner looked seriously at F1 and got Gordon Coppuck to design a car which got to wind tunnel testing.
Ikuzawa (94) - Tetsu Ikuzawa had a serious attempt at entering a team, featured top reject designer Enrique Scalabroni who designed the car, never got passed drawing stage. Never happened but a number of staff memebers joined Stewart.
Dome (96) - Dome were so close to entering F1, even having Marco Apicella and Shinji Nakano testing the car. Lack of sponsorship killed the car.
Honda (99) - Another car that was close, Jos Verstappen tested the Harvey Postlehwaite car before the death of one of the most talented designers caused Honda to shelve the project.

35 - What was unusual about Toyotas first pole position?

It was at the 2005 US Grand Prix, where the Michelin shod runers retired at the formation lap due to tyre issues. This meant that for the first time in F1 history the pole sitter did not start. Ralf Schumacher would get a pole later that year in Japan but only came 8th. Trulli would have to wait 4 years before getting his 2nd Toyota pole in Bahrain where he ended up on the podium.

Japanese F1 Drivers

36 - What is the best finishing position of a Japanese F1 driver who did not score points? (1 point each, 5 bonus points for whom, where and when)

Tora Takagi who would get 7th for Arrows at the 1999 Australian GP.

37 - Naoki Hattori tried to prequalify the Coloni Cosworth twice in 1991 in Australia and Japan, what positions did he manage in pre qualifying? (2 points)

6th and last, setting a time 17 seconds off prequalifying in Japan and 4.8 seconds off prequalifying in Australia.

38 - He raced in Suzuka a month before in Japanese F3000. To the nearest second, what was the time difference between his qualifying time in the Lola Mugen F3000 car and the Coloni Cosworth F1 car. Use + for faster then the F1 car and - for slower then the F1 car. (10 points for correct answer, 1 point off for each second off down to zero)

In a Lola T90/50 with a Mugen MF308 he managed a 1:47.461 compared with the 2:00.035 or 12.574 seconds faster.

39 - What was Satoshi Motoyamas only involvement in F1? (2 points for team, 3 for circuit, 2 points for year, 3 points for information)

Satoshi Motoyama as a Friday testing driver for Jordan at the 2003 Japanese Grand Prix. He Managed a 1:35.044 which was faster then all three Minardis of Jos Verstappen with a 1:35.579, Gianmaria Bruni with a 1:35.695 and Nicolas Kiesa who was slow with a 1:36.695

Satoshi despite winning the Formula Nippon champion four times in 98, 01, 03 and 05 and finding time to win the 03, 04 and 08 Japanese Grand Super Touring championship as well still couldnt find an F1 drive.

40 - Who was the oldest Japanese driver to attempt an F1 race? (5 points)

I cocked up on this one but there are two technically correct answers.

Toshio Suzuki was the oldest Japanese driver to start an attempt in F1 at the ripe old age of 38 years, 7 months, 14 days at the 1993 Japanese GP where he drove for Larrousse Lamborghini

Satoru Nakajima was the oldest Japanese driver to race in F1 at the ripe old age of 38 years, 8 months, 11 days when he last raced for Tyrrell Honda at the 1991 Australian GP

Looks like I managed to get more right in that quiz that I'd thought. Dozo yoroshiku! Banzai!

Grand Prix Battlegrounds Vague Quote Quiz
What track is each quote from the book Grand Prix Battlegrounds talking about?

It's good
1. "Everything about it was just a dream"
2. "It gave you a real feeling of what driving a Grand Prix car was about"
3. "It was a good circuit, a tough circuit"
4. "Without hesitation, the best street track I have ever raced on"

It's bad
5. "I didn't get a feeling of fulfilment and satisfaction"
6. "I wasn't sorry that we didn't return"
7. "It was three miles and the first mile and a bit was quite demanding but frankly the rest wasn't"
8. "It wasn't, let's say, a character-built track"

Challenge
9. "It's a real challenge for the drivers and the engineers"
10. "The track is a challenge because it requires several compromises"
11. "The corners were extremely challenging for our cars"
12. "The high-speed left-hand corners add an extra physical challenge"

The car
13. "If your car is prone to rear-locking you have to be careful"
14. "It is perhaps a little short and tight for Grand Prix cars"
15. "The circuit was quite quick, a performance circuit"
16. "This track is tough on the car in general"

Funny
17. "It was completely without boundaries"
18. "It was lethal, that place"
19. "The dust and the sand were all over the place"
20. "You turn right, right, right, left, left, right, right and you've finished"

You have, I don't know, a few weeks. Plenty of time.

The silly guessing game only got one response, so here's something relatively serious...
IN THE SHADOWS

Who won these F1 races?
1. 1964 Mexico
2. 1976 Japan
3. 1979 France
4. 1982 Caesars Palace
5. 1994 Australia

What was their best finish that year?
6. Dave Walker, 1972
7. Jochen Mass, 1976
8. Jos Verstappen, 1994
9. Alex Zanardi, 1999
10. Felipe Massa, 2010

11. Not counting Sochi, ten tracks have hosted one Grand Prix. What are they? (.2 each)
12. Three of these tracks were in the same season. Which one?
13. Three of these tracks were in the same country. Which one?
14. Four of these races were won by the same person. Who?
15. Which of the tracks is the shortest?

Who spent the most seasons with these teams? (Just one race in a season is enough.)
16. (BMW) Sauber
17. Arrows/Footwork (four answers, .5 each)
18. Ensign
19. Surtees (John Surtees doesn't count)
20. ATS

Standings:
Simtek: 18.5
tommykl: 17.8
WaffleCat: 13.8

I'll give it one more week, then it's closed.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Standings:
Simtek: 18.5
tommykl: 17.8
WaffleCat: 13.8

I'll give it one more week, then it's closed.

I'm pretry sure I have sent my answers a couple days ago. Did it accidentaly sent to your e-mail?

AxelP800 wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Standings:
Simtek: 18.5
tommykl: 17.8
WaffleCat: 13.8

I'll give it one more week, then it's closed.

I'm pretry sure I have sent my answers a couple days ago. Did it accidentaly sent to your e-mail?

Nothing is there either. So something somewhere failed and you'll need to make and send your answers again.

Well, it's been long enough, here are the answers. They don't really have a story behind them like the good quizzes do, so this might be a bit anticlimactic.

Who won these F1 races?
1. 1964 Mexico - Dan Gurney
2. 1976 Japan - Mario Andretti
3. 1979 France - Jean-Pierre Jabouille
4. 1982 Caesars Palace - Michele Alboreto
5. 1994 Australia - Nigel Mansell

What was their best finish that year?
6. Dave Walker, 1972 - 9th (only tommykl got this)
7. Jochen Mass, 1976 - 3rd
8. Jos Verstappen, 1994 - 3rd
9. Alex Zanardi, 1999 - 7th
10. Felipe Massa, 2010 - 2nd

11. Not counting Sochi, ten tracks have hosted one Grand Prix. What are they? (.2 each) - Ain-Diab, AVUS, Bugatti, Monsanto, Donington, Fair Park, Pescara, Riverside, Sebring, and Zeltweg. tommykl also named Mont-Tremblant, which hosted two. I gave him 1.8 points.
12. Three of these tracks were in the same season. Which one? - 1959
13. Three of these tracks were in the same country. Which one? - USA
14. Four of these races were won by the same person. Who? - Stirling Moss
15. Which of the tracks is the shortest? - Fair Park (everyone made a different wrong guess)

Who spent the most seasons with these teams? (Just one race in a season is enough.)
16. (BMW) Sauber - Nick Heidfeld
17. Arrows/Footwork (four answers, .5 each) - Patrese, Surer, Boutsen, and Warwick (tommykl again)
18. Ensign - Jacky Ickx (yannicksamlad)
19. Surtees (John Surtees doesn't count) - Mike Hailwood
20. ATS - Manfred Winkelhock

And again, the scores:
Simtek: 18.5
tommykl: 17.8
WaffleCat: 13.8
yannicksamlad: 12.9

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:15. Which of the tracks is the shortest? - Fair Park (everyone made a different wrong guess)

Um, Zeltweg was about 700 metres shorter

Simtek wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:15. Which of the tracks is the shortest? - Fair Park (everyone made a different wrong guess)

Um, Zeltweg was about 700 metres shorter

I checked it again, and it does turn out I misread something somewhere. 3.2 km is indeed 701 m shorter than Dallas. So I guess tommykl wins?

Off season drags on , so I thought I might help alleviate boredom a bit..its just fun, and not too hard , and revives some old favourite stats and quizzes.

Theme is DNF/DNS ( Did not cross the line to start lap 1 )/DNC ( Did not compete, any reason- made that one up )
Quick quiz, for fun only – self marking ( answers later) , one right answer per question; the best from the multiple choice presented.

Prost – San Marino – 1991
A. DNC- Had been fired by Ferrari
B. DNS- Couldn’t start the car for the warm up lap
C. DNS - Car broke down on warm up lap
D. DNS - Spun off on warm up lap
E. DNF - Something to do with Senna

Jarier – Argentina - 1975
A. DNS – Car broke on warm up lap
B. DNF - Car broke while commandingly leading; a vison in black in the shimmering heat
C. DNF – Crashed while annoying James Hunt
D. DNC – Team brought DN4 as successor to DN3 , instead of DN5 .DN4 failed scrutineering
E. DNC – Team equipment impounded on account of Don Nichols’ reputation. Equipment released on account of Don Nichols’ reputation, but too late to race

Jarier – Germany – 1979
A. DNS – Car broke down on warming up lap
B. DNF – Engine failure while cavorting in the midfield ; a vision in Tyrrell blue
C. DNF – Skirts fell off, grip decreased , standard ground effect undriveable car syndrome 1979-82, driver lost interest
D. DNF – Lost interest having proved himself the equal of any driver on the grid by passing Pironi
E. DNC – Hepatitis


Jacques Laffite – USA – 1975
A. DNS – Failed to qualify
B. DNC – Self-harmed inadvertently, unable to see properly for race day
C. DNF – Chassis identification plate fell off after velcro failure.. and obstructed throttle linkage
D. DNC – Team ran out of tyres after quallie
E. DNC – Team mate took Jacques’ race car

Clay Regazzoni – USA – 1975
A. DNF – Engine after Clay missed a gear
B. DNF – Gearbox after Clay missed a gear
C. DNF – Reprehensible behaviour while tooling around leads to disqualification/withdrawal
D. DNC – Broke arm playing football
E. DNS – Reutemann got ‘dibs’ on Clay’s car

De Cesaris – Brazil - 1983
A. DNF – Usual Alfa electrical gremlins
B. DNF – Usual Alfa insufficient fuel to get to the finish
C. DNC – Excluded from meeting after fire extinguisher found to be empty
D. DNC- Excluded from meeting for failing to report for weight check
E. DNS - Insufficient spares to repair car for race start

Brundle – Monaco – 1991
A. DNC – Excluded from meeting for failing to report for weight check
B. DNC – Excluded owing to presence of hydrocarbons in fuel tank
C. DNC - Excluded for holes in hydrocarbons/octane rating being wrong/somesuch irregularity
D. DNC – Team excluded for being awkward
E. DNS - Did not qualify


Olivier Panis – GB – 2004
A. DNS – Car caught fire
B. DNS – Olivier caught fire
C. DNF – Fire extinguisher went off
D. DNF – Fire extinguisher fell off and injured Olivier
E. DNF – Out of fuel after refuelling failed to put anything into the car

Pirro – USA - 1990
A. DNC – Didn’t have a Formula 1 drive
B. DNC – Hepatitis
C. DNF – Went off when track broke up
D. DNF – Went off when car broke up
E. DNC – Didn’t have a licence

Donnelly - USA – 1990
A. DNS – Did not qualify
B. DNS – Car broke before start
C. DNC - Did not have a licence
D. DNC – Didn’t have a Formula 1 drive
E. DNF – Went off when track broke up

Hesnault – France - 1984
A. DNS – Gave up his entitlement to start to permit De Cesaris to start, after De Cesaris best qualifying times disallowed for having an empty fire extinguisher
B. DNS – Gave up bits of his car to permit De Cesaris to start
C. DNF – Gave up
D. DNC – Incurred wrath of Guy Ligier
E. DNC – Entry not recognised on grounds of ‘invisibility’; no one knew who he was

Larry Perkins - Argentina – 1977
A. DNS – Didn’t qualify
B. DNC – No car arrived for him
C. DNC – Didn’t have a Formula 1 drive
D. DNS – Car broke on warm up lap
E. DNF – Car broke on first lap

Larry Perkins – Sweden - 1977
A. DNS – Didn’t qualify
B. DNC – No car arrived for him
C. DNC – Didn’t have a Formula 1 drive
D. DNS – Car broke on warm up lap
E. DNF – Car broke on first lap

yannicksamlad wrote:Off season drags on , so I thought I might help alleviate boredom a bit..

Ahem.

Anyway, I'll send my answers in time

Simtek wrote:

yannicksamlad wrote:Off season drags on , so I thought I might help alleviate boredom a bit..

Ahem.

Anyway, I'll send my answers in time

Didn't mean to denigrate the rolling trivia quiz ( and I fully appreciate others' efforts in raising interest)..but it is quite difficult ... But well worth a look /bump quiz fans !

yannicksamlad wrote:Hesnault – France - 1984
A. DNS – Gave up his entitlement to start to permit De Cesaris to start, after De Cesaris best qualifying times disallowed for having an empty fire extinguisher
B. DNS – Gave up bits of his car to permit De Cesaris to start
C. DNF – Gave up
D. DNC – Incurred wrath of Guy Ligier
E. DNC – Entry not recognised on grounds of ‘invisibility’; no one knew who he was

Just watching this race now, Murray says it's A

yannicksamlad wrote:Prost – San Marino – 1991
A. DNC- Had been fired by Ferrari
B. DNS- Couldn’t start the car for the warm up lap
C. DNS - Car broke down on warm up lap
D. DNS - Spun off on warm up lap
E. DNF - Something to do with Senna

This one is D.

...and I was under the impression that we were to send our answers via PM

But if you insist...

yannicksamlad wrote:Jacques Laffite – USA – 1975
A. DNS – Failed to qualify
B. DNC – Self-harmed inadvertently, unable to see properly for race day
C. DNF – Chassis identification plate fell off after velcro failure.. and obstructed throttle linkage
D. DNC – Team ran out of tyres after quallie
E. DNC – Team mate took Jacques’ race car

This one is a combination of B and E. Jacques mistook visor cleaning fluid for his eye drops, which didn't do much good for his eyesight. As a result, Lella Lombardi took over the car.

I will post up the answers ( as I see them) in a few days..as I think I indicated. So maybe we don't give away too much in the meantime so that any new passers-by can have a go?
And thanks for the PM answers..but I will publish answers so anyone can self-mark if they want .

Answers time- a few hopefully interesting incidents, and maybe a 'misdirection ' or two as well ( in the great multi-choice tradition );

A couple of messages arrived – of which winner was tommykl ( on 7)

Answers ( hopefully you'll agree)

Prost – San Marino – 1991

D. DNS - Spun off on warm up lap – it had started raining . Youtube it – astounding

Jarier – Argentina - 1975
A. DNS – Car broke on warm up lap – heartbreaking , next race in Brazil was the one where it broke down while he was in the lead ( see also Canada 1978)

Jarier – Germany – 1979
E. DNC – Hepatitis


Jacques Laffite – USA – 1975
B. DNC – Self-harmed inadvertently, unable to see properly for race day- eye drops/cleaning fluid mix up..I went for the best answer being that the self harm was the reason he didnt compete...giving up the car was a consequence, not a cause .

Clay Regazzoni – USA – 1975
C. DNF – Reprehensible behaviour while tooling around leads to disqualification/withdrawal. Clay was preventing Emmo from catching Niki for the lead…got a reprimand…tempers frayed..

De Cesaris – Brazil - 1983
D. DNC- Excluded from meeting for failing to report for weight check. New weight check procedures enforced , and while Andrea has an unhappy relationship with fire extinguishers, this DSQ was for missing the weight check after apparently being called in twice in succession and not having done a flying lap

Brundle – Monaco – 1991
A. DNC – Excluded from meeting for failing to report for weight check . I think Martin cites a repositioned indicator as mitigating circumstances


Olivier Panis – GB – 2004
C. DNF – Fire extinguisher went off . And he couldn’t see anything ..etc

Pirro – USA - 1990
B. DNC – Hepatitis. It’s more common than maybe you thought !

Donnelly - USA – 1990
B. DNS – Car broke before start . Not a lucky man , in some ways.

Hesnault – France - 1984
A. DNS – Gave up his entitlement to start to permit De Cesaris to start, after De Cesaris best qualifying times disallowed for having an empty fire extinguisher . Bizarrely..in France after going quickly…in a Ligier

Larry Perkins - Argentina – 1977
B. DNC – No car arrived for him . BRM couldn’t fit it into the plane to Argentina . Brazil was next race – it conked out quickly- no harm-no foul.

Larry Perkins – Sweden - 1977
A. DNS – Didn’t qualify. Simple as that, in a Surtees .

Double-entry drivers
1. His team keeps stat nerds arguing to this day.
2. He came 4th in the 1952 British Grand Prix.
3. He drove a Kojima at the 1977 Japanese Grand Prix. (Two answers, .5 each)
4. Where did Roger Laurent finish in the 1952 German Grand Prix?
5. It's Bernhard Nacke's actual name.
6. He was twice the winner of the GP des Frontières.
7. Both his entries were non-classified finishes in the British Grand Prix.
8. Which race did Ernesto Brambilla fail to qualify for?
9. He ran Bristol Cars for some time.
10. He failed to qualify for the Indy 500 in 1957, then came second in the next one.
11. He shared a car with Luigi Piotti in the 1957 Buenos Aires Grand Prix.
12. In which F1 season did Bobby Rahal show up?
13. He scored a point at the 1962 South African Grand Prix.
14. Where did Franco Comotti finish in the 1952 French Grand Prix?
15. He drove an F2 car in the 1969 German Grand Prix.
16. What race did Jean-Louis Schlesser DNQ for?
17. Never qualified for a race despite being Finnish.
18. The other Suzuki.
19. He won Swedish F3 in 1971 and '72.
20. Whose car failed on the first lap of the 1961 British Grand Prix?
21. He was a 1970s F1 driver from Northern Ireland.
22. His company made the engines for Grand Prix Masters.
23. Bernard de Dryver DNQed for the 1977 Belgian Grand Prix for a team run by whom?
24. Dick Gibson competed in two editions of which GP?
25. The Monégasque driver no one remembers.
26. Gaze, Brabham, England, then...
27. The home straight at Lime Rock Park is named after him.
28. What race in 1954 was Jorge Daponte in, besides Argentina?
29. Colin Davis drove a car by which manufacturer with which engine?
30. He was disqualified from the race where Al Pease made reject history.

You have until the end of the month, plus the time it takes me to remember.

1. His team keeps stat nerds arguing to this day.
Gérard Larrousse was in fact an F1 driver in 1974.

2. He came 4th in the 1952 British Grand Prix.
Dennis Poore on debut. In his other entry, he came 12th.

3. He drove a Kojima at the 1977 Japanese Grand Prix. (Two answers, .5 each)
Everyone knew Noritake Takahara and Kazuyoshi Hoshino.

4. Where did Roger Laurent finish in the 1952 German Grand Prix?
6th. In an F2 entry, no less! hahahahagetit

5. It's Bernhard Nacke's actual name.
(Karl)-Günther Bechem. What the reason for the alternate name was, I don't know.

6. He was twice the winner of the GP des Frontières.
Arthur Legat, who did not win in 1933.

7. Both his entries were non-classified finishes in the British Grand Prix.
Joe Kelly. Not much to say, although Simtek is working to prove me wrong on that.

8. Which race did Ernesto Brambilla fail to qualify for?
1963 Italy. 1969 is a DNS.

9. He ran Bristol Cars for some time.
Tony Crook. I know it has nothing to do with F1.

10. He failed to qualify for the Indy 500 in 1957, then came second in the next one.
That was George Amick. He died in a race the next year.

11. He shared a car with Luigi Piotti in the 1957 Buenos Aires Grand Prix.
Alejandro de Tomaso. I thought this was a good one, but sadly someone got it.

12. In which F1 season did Bobby Rahal show up?
1978. That one was apparently easy.

13. He scored a point at the 1962 South African Grand Prix.
Neville Lederle. That's it.

14. Where did Franco Comotti finish in the 1952 French Grand Prix?
12th place. This was stupid trivia so no one got it.

15. He drove an F2 car in the 1969 German Grand Prix.
Peter Westbury. I don't know, he was there.

16. What race did Jean-Louis Schlesser DNQ for?
1983 France. His career was longer than Gugelmin's or Nakajima's, sort of.

17. Never qualified for a race despite being Finnish.
Mikko Kozarowitzky, of course. He had a profile.

18. The other Suzuki.
Everyone knew Toshio.

19. He won Swedish F3 in 1971 and '72.
Torsten Palm. Belsø wasn't even a double-entry driver.

20. Whose car failed on the first lap of the 1961 British Grand Prix?
Massimo Natili. His next race was Italy the same year, and he drove in practice just for someone else to take his car.

21. He was a 1970s F1 driver from Northern Ireland.
Damien Magee.

22. His company made the engines for Grand Prix Masters.
John Nicholson. See question 9.

23. Bernard de Dryver DNQed for the 1977 Belgian Grand Prix for a team run by whom?
Brian Henton. The team's name was "British Formula One Racing Team", which was most teams.

24. Dick Gibson competed in two editions of which GP?
Germany, because the UK or South Africa would make too much sense.

25. The Monégasque driver no one remembers.
Apparently people do remember André Testut. Good to hear.

26. Gaze, Brabham, England, then...
Ken Kavanagh, the next Australian. .25 points to yannicksamlad for having the funniest answer of the quiz.

27. The home straight at Lime Rock Park is named after him.
Sam Posey. I know because I've been there and the spectator bridge had "SAM POSEY STRAIGHT" on it, and the PA mentioned it too in case you missed the giant letters on the only thing above the home straight.

28. What race in 1954 was Jorge Daponte in, besides Argentina?
It was Italy. He finished 10 laps down.

29. Colin Davis drove a car by which manufacturer with which engine?
It was a Cooper-Maserati. Despite being British, he wasn't one of the sixteen Coopers in the British GP that year. That's not an exaggeration, it's the real number.

30. He was disqualified from the race where Al Pease made reject history.
Eppie Wietzes, for "outside assistance" as Wikipedia puts it. You'd think people would know it was illegal, but you see it as a DSQ reason fairly often....

Scores
tommykl: 21
Simtek: 15
yannicksamlad: 5.25

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:7. Both his entries were non-classified finishes in the British Grand Prix.
Joe Kelly. Not much to say, although Simtek is working to prove me wrong on that.

There isn't really a whole lot to add. The specific Alta chassis (GP3, supposedly the best of the three Alta GPs) he'd bought was not jigged correctly, which partly explains the lack of competitiveness in what was said to be a pretty solid design that might have been capable of more in the right hands. So Joe redesigned it in 1952 and rechristened it IRA, which I hasten to add stood for Irish Racing Automobile! He had an odd sense of humour...

And I would have scored... 2, for Messrs Kozarowitzky and The Other Suzuki. Maybe 2.5 with one of the Kojima drivers.

Alex, Jack, Sébastien, and other “racing driver” names
1. What was Andrea Chiesa’s last GP?
2. Andrea de Adamich drove for which team in more than one F1 season?
3. Andrea de Cesaris came second in which two GPs? (.5 each)
4. The other Berger.
5. How many wins did Andrea Montermini get in F3000?
6. Montermini’s best finish in F1 was in what position?
7. Andrea Montermini and Alex Caffi were teammates at which team?
8. Which GP did Alex Blignaut withdraw from?
9. Alex Ribeiro competed full-time in which F1 season?
10. Which championship did Alex Soler-Roig win in 1971 and ‘72?
11. Alexander Wurz won the 24 Hours of Le Mans in which two years?
12. What was Alex Yoong’s best result in F3000?
13. Which IROC edition was Alex Zanardi in?
14. Which F1 season did Jack Fairman score points in?
15. Jacky Ickx won the 24 Hours of Le Mans three times with whom for a teammate?
16. Jackie Lewis was oppressively prevented from starting which GP?
17. Jackie Oliver was oppressively not awarded points for which GP?
18. Sébastien Bourdais drove for which two teams in Superleague Formula?
19. Who did Jan Flinterman share his car with in his only GP?
20. Which two Jeans raced in the 1955 Italian GP?
21. Which Jean DNQed for the 1959 Monaco GP?
22. Jean-Pierre Jabouille scored points in one race without winning it. Which one?
23. Which two qualifying sessions included all three Jean-Pierres?
24. Jacques Villeneuve got his only CART win at which track?
25. Which two Taylors DNQed for the 1959 British GP?
26. Henry Taylor scored in which GP?
27. John Taylor scored in which GP?
28. His name is a lot like Alexander Rossi.
29. Besides Bill Aston, who drove for Aston Butterworth?
30. Two drivers named Conny took the Swedish F3 title back-to-back. Name them. (1 each)

oh i posted a quiz didn't i

1. What was Andrea Chiesa’s last GP?
He raced (well, DNQed most of the time) from the start of 1992 up to Germany.

2. Andrea de Adamich drove for which team in more than one F1 season?
He drove a full season for Surtees in 1972 and one race in 1973.

3. Andrea de Cesaris came second in which two GPs? (.5 each)
1983 Germany and South Africa.

4. The other Berger.
Georges. Nothing exciting.

5. How many wins did Andrea Montermini get in F3000?
Three.

6. Montermini’s best finish in F1 was in what position?
8th.

7. Andrea Montermini and Alex Caffi were teammates at which team?
Courage, at Le Mans.

8. Which GP did Alex Blignaut withdraw from?
1965 South Africa, his only championship entry ever.

9. Alex Ribeiro competed full-time in which F1 season?
1977.

10. Which championship did Alex Soler-Roig win in 1971 and ‘72?
The Spanish Touring Car Championship. The championship doesn't exist on Wikipedia, so you know it's obscure.

11. Alexander Wurz won the 24 Hours of Le Mans in which two years?
1996 and 2009. You want to talk about endurance....

12. What was Alex Yoong’s best result in F3000?
He was present for the second half of the season, racking up three DNQs and two retirements.

13. Which IROC edition was Alex Zanardi in?
1997.

14. Which F1 season did Jack Fairman score points in?
1956.

15. Jacky Ickx won the 24 Hours of Le Mans three times with whom for a teammate?
Derek Bell. That's right, someone you've actually heard of.

16. Jackie Lewis was oppressively prevented from starting which GP?
1962 in Monaco, the track most known for qualifying oppression. Siffert and Gregory were also oppressed.

17. Jackie Oliver was oppressively not awarded points for which GP?
1967 Germany. If you can't figure it out just from that, it was an F2 drive.

18. Sébastien Bourdais drove for which two teams in Superleague Formula?
Sevilla and Olympique Lyonnais. There is no reason to know this.

19. Who did Jan Flinterman share his car with in his only GP?
Chico Landi.

20. Which two Jeans raced in the 1955 Italian GP?
Behra and Lucas. It was Lucas' only entry.

21. Which Jean DNQed for the 1959 Monaco GP?
Lucienbonnet. Also his only entry.

22. Jean-Pierre Jabouille scored points in one race without winning it. Which one?
The 1978 USGP. He wasn't even on the podium.

23. Which two qualifying sessions included all three Jean-Pierres?
1974 France (no prizes for that), but also Austria.

24. Jacques Villeneuve got his only CART win at which track?
Road America. What?

25. Which two Taylors DNQed for the 1959 British GP?
Dennis and Trevor.

26. Henry Taylor scored in which GP?
1960 France.

27. John Taylor scored in which GP?
1966 France.

28. His name is a lot like Alexander Rossi.
Alessandro Pesenti-Rossi, the same but more Italian.

29. Besides Bill Aston, who drove for Aston Butterworth?
Robin Montgomerie-Charrington, in his only race. A great-sounding name went sadly underused.

30. Two drivers named Conny took the Swedish F3 title back-to-back. Name them. (1 each)
Andersson, the easier one, and Ljungfeldt, who never made it to F1.

Scores
Simtek: 20.5
tommykl: 14
yannicksamlad: 7

As I seem to have killed off the picture quiz, I thought I'd contribute a little trivia quiz in the easy-to-follow multiple choice format
Questions - Multi- choice . Don’t post the answers. I’ll post them later

1. The sponsor is ABBA, the car is
A. ATS
B. Shadow
C. Ensign
D. Green-ish
E. Hesketh

2. Monaco 1977 Brambilla encounters a problem;
A. The gearstick has bent
B. His balaclava is obscuring his view
C. His race boot has fallen off
D. He is hungry
E. The team has lost his pitboard and stopped communicating

3. “I Just Made the Tea” ( terrific book ) reports that Rupert Keegan’s preferred diet was based around
A. Burgers
B. Steak
C. Sausages
D. Custard
E. Chicken

4. Brambilla was at Surtees for 1977 and most of 1978 scoring all the team’ points in the period. How many other drivers attempted to help him score points for Surtees throughout 1977 and 1978
A. Six
B. Four
C. Five
D. Seven
E. Nine

5. 1990 Brazil ; Senna looks like he’ll win until he hits-
A. Dalmas
B. Nakajima
C. Barilla
D. A bollard
E. Foitek

6. 2005 China ; Schuey hit someone on the way to the grid..who?
A. Karthikeyan
B. Albers
C. Villeneuve
D. Doornbos
E. Monteiro

7. 1981; the Fittipaldi team used which tyres ( best answer gets the point) ;
A. Michelin
B. Avon
C. Pirelli
D. Avon and Pirelli
E. Michelin , Avon and Pirelli

8. According to Stats F1. Com in 1986 the Motori Moderni engine in the Minardi was pushing out out how many horsepower ( compared to a Honda’s 900);
A. 780
B. 820
C. 750
D. 815
E. 850

9. 2000 Indianapolis , out of the following who overtook McLaren’s Mikka Hakkinen;
A. Gene
B. Zonta
C. Diniz
D. Mazzacane
E. De la Rosa

10. Which of the following was awarded the 2008 GP2 Award for driving style ( voted by fans) ;
A. Di Grassi
B. D’Ambrosio
C. Pantano
D. Chandhok
E. Bruno Senna

Answers ( as I have them )
1 A
2 B
3 C
4 E
5 B
6 B
7 E
8 A
9 D
10 D

Here's one, based on misconceptions, obscurities or just things I found plain interesting:

1. What was the name of Japan's first permanent motorsport venue?

2. Why was the 1952 Monaco Grand Prix held as a sportscar race?

3. Who did Mike Hawthorn give a lift home upon returning to Europe after the 1953 Argentine Grand Prix?

4. The man who designed the modern Estoril circuit also designed another track with the hope of attracting F1 to the country in which it was situated. Which circuit was this?

5. When was the first Czechoslovakian Grand Prix for cars held?

6. Zakspeed once tested a talented young driver in 1987, making him the first from his country to sit in an F1 car. Which country was the driver from?

7. After the cancellation of a number of rounds, which championship did Stirling Moss win in 1961?

8. Who was the first Formula 1 World Drivers' Champion?

9. Who was the first FIA Formula 2 champion?

10. Who was the first European Formula 3 champion?

11. After Michael Schumacher, who achieved the highest number of Formula 1 race wins?

12. 37 drivers have competed in all three Triple Crown events. Which driver could have joined that club in 1991, before a scheduling conflict prevented him from completing the "set" at Le Mans?

13. When the FIA introduced a new championship for manufacturers in 1958, they chose not to award points for constructors competing in the Indy 500, yet continued to do so for drivers until 1960. Why was this?

14. (you saw this coming) At whose suggestion did Mike Hawthorn gain an entry for the 1951 Leinster Trophy, which he won?

15. His grandfather was one of the greatest drivers of his day, his father was a world champion and he himself had a brief career in F3 before he decided to give up racing for a variety of reasons, including pressure from his family. Who was this man?

As is standard here, answers by PM. Deadline is whenever I go a long time without receiving a reply. Maybe two weeks.

The wording of question 15 has been amended to more accurately reflect the answer I'm looking for. However, all the answers I've gotten so far to that question will nevertheless be awarded one point (all of those answers were the same...).

Thought I'd throw in a few more questions as a bonus (read: I was going for 20 but had forgotten what additional questions I had wanted to include):

16. In its time, the Swiss Grand Prix (at Bremgarten, not Dijon) was unique among world championship races in the way it was scheduled. How so?

17. Apart from the Indianapolis 500, what was the only race in the history of the world championship not to carry the words "Grand Prix" or any translation thereof in its official race title?

18. Who was the first driver to be killed at the wheel of a world championship-winning car (type, not necessarily the exact chassis)?

19. "Winston Churchill spurred on our troops during the war with his famous Victory Sign, but if (blank) isn't careful he will see more vigorous signs of this sort directed at the (blank) around the circuits of Europe." Fill in the blanks that are the subject of this rather humorous passage.

20. On the weekend of a world championship Grand Prix he entered the support race for a lower category, won his heat, finished second in the final, then swapped the engine he used in the support race for a larger one so he could compete in the Grand Prix itself - in the same car. Who fits this description?

A little Sporcle quiz I made because why not? Should be a fairly easy one as well, unlike some other quizzes on here *stares at tommykl*

https://www.sporcle.com/games/WaffleCat/substitute-drivers-in-formula-1-2010-2017

WaffleCat wrote:Should be a fairly easy one as well, unlike some other quizzes on here *stares at tommykl*

I have no regrets.

WaffleCat wrote:A little Sporcle quiz I made because why not? Should be a fairly easy one as well, unlike some other quizzes on here *stares at tommykl*
https://www.sporcle.com/games/WaffleCat/substitute-drivers-in-formula-1-2010-2017

18/18 with 52 seconds to spare. No DNQ this time!

dinizintheoven wrote:

WaffleCat wrote:A little Sporcle quiz I made because why not? Should be a fairly easy one as well, unlike some other quizzes on here *stares at tommykl*
https://www.sporcle.com/games/WaffleCat/substitute-drivers-in-formula-1-2010-2017

18/18 with 52 seconds to spare. No DNQ this time!

Well I'm impressed.I spent too long trying to spell Heikki's last name ...and ran out of time at 9. Great quiz!

Answers

1. Named after another country. INNES IRELAND
2. Won the Race of Champions in two successive years. JACKIE STEWART
3. Four-time winner of the 12 Hours of Sebring. ALLAN MCNISH
4. Is apparently still employed as a driver by an F1 team. PAUL DI RESTA
5. Finished on the podium in his first ten seasons of F1. DAVID COULTHARD
6. Scored three F1 points, while his team-mate scored 55. JOHNNY DUMFRIES
7. Raced cars built by Maserati, BRM, Connaught, Cooper and Lotus. RON FLOCKHART
8. Only ever drove for one team in Formula One and Formula Two. JIM CLARK
9. The founder of Ecurie Ecosse. DAVID MURRAY
10. Attempted the Indy 500 twelve times without success. JIM CRAWFORD

Standings
Simtek - 10 out of 10
Tommykl - 9 out of 10
Yannicksamlad - 5 out of 10

Aislabie wrote:Answers

1. Named after another country. INNES IRELAND
2. Won the Race of Champions in two successive years. JACKIE STEWART
3. Four-time winner of the 12 Hours of Sebring. ALLAN MCNISH
4. Is apparently still employed as a driver by an F1 team. PAUL DI RESTA
5. Finished on the podium in his first ten seasons of F1. DAVID COULTHARD
6. Scored three F1 points, while his team-mate scored 55. JOHNNY DUMFRIES
7. Raced cars built by Maserati, BRM, Connaught, Cooper and Lotus. RON FLOCKHART
8. Only ever drove for one team in Formula One and Formula Two. JIM CLARK
9. The founder of Ecurie Ecosse. DAVID MURRAY
10. Attempted the Indy 500 twelve times without success. JIM CRAWFORD

Standings
Simtek - 10 out of 10
Tommykl - 9 out of 10
Yannicksamlad - 5 out of 10

I have a bit of a query about Innes Ireland - whilst his father was Scottish and although he spent much of his youth in Scotland, I believe that he was born in Yorkshire.

It's been a long time since I last received answers, and I've had to be reminded about this, so perhaps it's time for the big reveals. Answers I've gotten will be listed in order from least to most correct, or least to most plausible, or no particular order at all depending on the question.

1. What was the name of Japan's first permanent motorsport venue?

SUGO?

Sportsland SUGO comes to mind for some reason. Probably because of its obnoxious allcaps, but I'm going with it.

Fuji International Speedway

I'm going to just go for the obvious one here and say Suzuka - even though I'm pretty sure it's the wrong answer.

Can't remember, but I think it wasn't Fuji or Suzuka

It's that oval that got demolished/turned into a baseball stadium. I forgot its name.

Tamagawa Speedway,

Tamagawa Speedway

Tamagawa Speedway

Suzuka was built in 1962, Fuji in 1965 and SUGO in 1975. Before all that, though, Japan had Tamagawa Speedway, an oval built in 1936. It didn't last long. The Sino-Japanese War brought a halt to activities within two years and the land on which the circuit was built was used to grow potatoes as rationing came into force.

2. Why was the 1952 Monaco Grand Prix held as a sportscar race?

It wasn't, that's just what Wikipedia says.

Because it was

Because the F1 race was being run through the F2 formula?

They didn’t want “Formula 2” cars for their Grand Prix and there were hardly any entries

Because the World Championship was being held to Formula Two regulations instead.

Because…well, Formula 1 didn't race there then because of new regs and Monaco not liking them. If I recall.

Because they disliked Formula 2?

This would have been during the F1/F2 crisis, so I take it they decided not to commit to either formula and simply host a sportscar race instead?

The hint was indeed in the year. While many organisers switched to F2 to guarantee decent-sized grids, the Automobile Club de Monaco didn't fancy the idea of downgrading their race, so they went for something completely different and allowed sportscar legend Vittorio Marzotto to show the world what he could do.

3. Who did Mike Hawthorn give a lift home upon returning to Europe after the 1953 Argentine Grand Prix?

Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God Queen of this Realm and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

A young John Watson. I honestly don't know, but heck it, why not.

Duncan Hamilton?

Duncan Hamilton

Stirling Moss

No idea. Stirling Moss.

Peter Collins?

Nobody

As you will find out, Duncan Hamilton has been a very popular answer throughout this quiz. But he was not the right answer here. Once again, the hint was in the question, as Mike gave a lift to one of his fellow competitors. That man was John Barber, probably the most enigmatic world championship driver still alive (if he's still alive) today. He's been out of contact with the racing world for nearly half a century and nobody seems to know for certain exactly where he is...

4. The man who designed the modern Estoril circuit also designed another track with the hope of attracting F1 to the country in which it was situated. Which circuit was this?

No idea

The go-kart track at Jerudong Park.

Autopolis.

Sepang?

I'll take a guess and say that the latest redesign was done by Tilke and you're looking for Sepang.

Moscow International Raceway

Luanda!

A few of you took the word "modern" to mean the latest redesign of the circuit. I merely included the word to distinguish it from the 1930s street circuit. The answer which only one person got is the Autódromo Internacional do Luanda. Yes, the one in Angola. In 1971, Ayrton Cornelsen, who had recently designed the then-under-construction Estoril circuit we all know and have varying opinions of, was made an offer by Angolan authorities to design a new state-of-the-art facility in the capital of the then-Portuguese colony. Everything went smoothly and the circuit was completed three weeks before Estoril. It had such amenities as a hotel for the drivers to stay in, a light system to replace the more traditional flags used to signal drivers, and apparently it was the first circuit anywhere in the world to have gravel traps. Emerson Fittipaldi even inspected the circuit and was very impressed. Unfortunately the chance of an Angolan (or Portuguese) Grand Prix here was lost in the growing political turmoil throughout Portugal and its empire, and the situation in Angola in particular worsened following independence as a decades-long civil war broke out. The circuit was abandoned and would not see racing again until the 1990s, by which time it was well behind F1 standards.

5. When was the first Czechoslovakian Grand Prix for cars held?

1923? I know it was well early.

1930?

1930

1935.

1935 - prior races were known as the Masaryk Grand Prix.

1937

1949

I was thinking of the 1930s, but I'm fairly sure those races were called the Masaryk Grand Prix. I will therefore say 1949.

Wikipedia says 1930. Wikipedia is wrong. The 1930s races for Grand Prix cars were called the "Masarykov Okruh", or "Masaryk Circuit". No race with the title "Velká Cena Ceskoslovenska" or "Czechoslovakian Grand Prix" was held until 1949, which ended up being the only F1 race ever held in the country as opposition from the authorities saw the 1950 race - scheduled for mid-September and earning a place on the FIA International Calendar (unknown if it was supposed to be a championship race) - run as an entirely local affair, remaining that way until the Peace and Friendship Cup was instituted in the 1960s.

6. Zakspeed once tested a talented young driver in 1987, making him the first from his country to sit in an F1 car. Which country was the driver from?

Poland. Because it borders Germany.

Poland

Czechoslovakia?

Hungary???

Hungary

Hungary.

I didn't know he'd tested for Zakspeed, but the description and time period fits Csaba Kesjár, so I'll say Hungary.

Even those of you who got it wrong had the right idea geographically and politically. Csaba Kesjár (or Kesjár Csaba) was the man, Hungary was the country. Interest in western single seater motorsport had gone up in Hungary after 1986 and the then-25-year-old Formula Easter driver was given a run by our favourite German touring car-turned-F1 team on the Hungaroring. Could he have preceded HWNSNBM as Hungary's first F1 race driver? We would never find out, as he was killed at the Norisring in an F3 race in 1988.

7. After the cancellation of a number of rounds, which championship did Stirling Moss win in 1961?

Formula One Trophy for Eternal Number Two drivers, for which he held the record until Rubens Barrichello surpassed him in 2009.

DHL Fastest Lap Trophy

The USAC Road Racing Championship?

The Ford Anglia Trophy

Formula Two?

South African F1.

It was called Formula Intercontinental, or something like that. The "rival" championship to the 1.5-litre F1.

The 1.5-litre formula was not a popular one. The previous formula for 2.5-litre cars was effectively replaced by the existing F2 formula, with F2 itself replaced by Formula Junior. But there was a solution: The outgoing F1 formula would effectively be renamed the "Intercontinental Formula" as a place for all the suddenly useless Cooper T53s and Ferrari 246s to compete, with a new championship instituted to accommodate this. Some interesting things happened. Vanwall made their last ever appearance with a new rear-engined car driven by John Surtees and Australian legend Lex Davison came to Europe to mess around with an old Aston Martin, but the championship ended in failure. Only three rounds were held, two of which were won by Stirling Moss and that's basically it.

8. Who was the first Formula 1 World Drivers' Champion?

Okay, what's the catch? I'll say Jean-Pierre Wimille.

Don't cheat me here. Obvious (and QI siren) answer is Farina, but it's gonna be the 1946 one, who was….was….Wimille?

Giuseppe Farina.

..is this double bluff? I can only go with Farina

Mario Andretti

Nelson Piquet

I know they changed the name of the championship to that exact wording some time in the early 1980s, but I don't remember which year. Possibly Nelson Piquet?

If I remember correctly, it was only called the drivers' championship from 1981 onwards, which would make Piquet the first.

Nelson Piquet! What, you may ask? Yes, until 1980 there was no "Formula 1 World Championship", at least not for drivers (more on that later). There was a world championship for drivers and the vast majority of races ever held for said championship were run to F1, but they didn't technically have to be, at least not on paper. It wasn't until 1981 (see the FISA-FOCA War) that they said "right, this is an F1 championship now". Although in practice it had been a solely F1 championship for over 20 years, it's nice to have these things set in stone.

9. Who was the first FIA Formula 2 champion?

No clue.

Jim Clark. No clue on this.

Jolyon Palmer is the first I can think of

No one yet 2017 is the first season

Andy Soucek? Hopefully I at least have the right idea.

Andy Soucek

Same trick here, it was called International F2 or something, FIA F2 only started in 2009 with Andy Soucek as the champion.

This is definitely the 2009 version. I believe Andy Soucek won that one?

Many of you were right to approach this with suspicion, but Andy Soucek is not the correct answer. In fact, Jacky Ickx, René Arnoux et al are all also FIA F2 champions, as the FIA was responsible for the European Championship of the time. The answer is in fact Jack Brabham, who won a 1960 series that, to my knowledge, was used as something of a staging ground for when the then-current F2 would be upgraded to F1 the following year. It was a short season of five rounds spread over four months, consisting of the Grands Prix of Syracuse, Pau, Brussels and Germany as well as the Aintree 200. With two wins and a third place, Black Jack took the F2 title on top of his F1 title from the same year. Not many can say they've done that...

On a further note, the only sources that go into significant detail on this only refer to it as a manufacturers' championship, so I could be catastrophically wrong.

10. Who was the first European Formula 3 champion?

No clue.

Chico Landi.

Ryan Briscoe

Jim Clark. No clue on this either.

Alan Jones

As opposed to Formula 3 Euro Series, presumably... Was it Marciello that year?

Riccardo Patrese

Thanks to Pasta making me scrape the barrel for Italian drivers in Alt-77, I know that one: Riccardo Patrese in 1976.

Another one where people went "wait a minute". You will note I didn't put "FIA" in the question. Indeed it wasn't an FIA affair, at least not to my knowledge. In 1966 a race was staged on the Brands Hatch circuit called the "European Formula 3 International Challenge". Most drivers were entered on behalf of their national auto clubs, and all the big European clubs of the day were represented: The FFSA, KAK, CSAI, other acronyms you won't recognise, but it was the RAC entry that won (scored a 1-2 actually), with Chris Irwin leading Piers Courage home, making the former the first European F3 champion.

11. After Michael Schumacher, who achieved the highest number of Formula 1 race wins?

Fangio seems too easy. But it's all I got.

..I feel the definition of Formula 1 is important here…Fangio? ( how many non-championship races did he win?)

The wording implies that non-World Championship races count, so I thought of the South African championship. I believe Dave Charlton won a crap-ton of titles in there, so possibly him?

Alain Prost held it for a long time, but I think Hammy has surpassed him. (Prost is still the better driver ).

LewHam. At least, I think he's second now. (And if you twist this into an answer about non-championship stuff, I will find you)

Lewis Hamilton.

I really tried to find a way for it to be Jim Clark, but it can only be Lewis Hamilton

Lewis Hamilton? World championship wins, yes, but a certain Rhodesian has racked up even more thanks to his exploits in South African Championship races in his part of the world: John Love with 56 wins! Further down, Fangio has 48 and Clark has 44.

12. 37 drivers have competed in all three Triple Crown events. Which driver could have joined that club in 1991, before a scheduling conflict prevented him from completing the "set" at Le Mans?

no idea

Does anyone really care about the Triple Crown? Alonso's just using it as an excuse.

Danny Sullivan?

Nigel Mansell?

….Michael Andretti?

Mark Blundell

Emerson Fittapaldi

This is someone who had competed in both F1 and Indy but not Le Mans prior to 1991, but was still alive...possibly Emerson Fittipaldi?

Emerson Fittipaldi is our man. His nephew has done it, but it has eluded old Emmo. He was entered as part of a CART "superteam" consisting of himself and Andrettis Mario and Michael, only for a date clash with the Portland round to scupper their chances. As for the others, Michael had a. yet to race at Monaco and b. already crossed Le Mans off the list in '83, Blundell had not (and still has not, thanks to the split) raced at Indianapolis and Danny had long since completed all three legs.

13. When the FIA introduced a new championship for manufacturers in 1958, they chose not to award points for constructors competing in the Indy 500, yet continued to do so for drivers until 1960. Why was this?

Yeah, no clue.

You know, I never thought about that before.

...I cant wait to find out..I’ve no idea

They wanted to attract American drivers to European races, but not American teams?

They just didn't change those dastardly old rules.

They were not F1 Cars

Because it wasn't an F1 race

Because the Driver's Championship was not specifically a Formula One Championship, but the Constructors' Championship was, and Indy wasn't run to F1 rules.

As I alluded to with question 8, the drivers' championship was not strictly an F1 championship on paper, so races held to other regulations (like the AAA formula) were permitted, though obviously F1 was the more popular decision for both race organisers and the FIA. What mattered really at the inception of the world championship in 1950 was a race's status as a "Grande Épreuve", an old, prestigious and well-established event. The 500 was America's Grande Épreuve, so it earned a place on the 1950 calendar (apparently thanks to AAA lobbying) and it retained this status until the US Grand Prix got off the ground. But to cut a long story short, the Manufacturers' Championship introduced in 1958 was strictly for F1 cars. The reason it didn't get the same treatment as the Drivers' Championship is probably to do with the fact that the World Sportscar Championship (which was officially the World Championship for Manufacturers at this time) already filled this role for marques, so the FIA went and said "here's a really specialised one for you". Tony Vandervell must have been very pleased.

14. (you saw this coming) At whose suggestion did Mike Hawthorn gain an entry for the 1951 Leinster Trophy, which he won?

...............???..no idea

Duncan Hamilton?

This sounds like a very Duncan Hamilton thing to do.

Duncan Hamilton

Bernie Ecclestone. Even before he was an F1 driver he was pulling strings.

Joe Kelly?

Joe Kelly. Being the only Irish fella I know at the time, of course every answer about 1950's Ireland will end with Joe Kelly. Right?

It's no surprise that nobody got this, for the answer is actually Graham Walker! The story goes that Murray's dad personally wrote to the Leinster Motor Club advocating for Britain's latest rising star (Moss having already made it to the top-tier). So Mike got an entry and won...

15. His grandfather was one of the greatest drivers of his day, his father was a world champion and he himself had a brief career in F3 before he decided to give up racing for a variety of reasons, including pressure from his family. Who was this man?

Literally everyone bar one answered wrote:Josh Hill.

The other person wrote:Did Alberto Ascari have a son? If so, him.

Yes, it does sound like Josh Hill, but quitting motorsport was his own decision as he wanted to pursue a career in music. The actual answer I sought for this question was Antonio "Tonino" Ascari Jr., son of the great Alberto, who raced in Italian F3 in the mid sixties in underfunded machinery before quitting in 1967. Reasons given either by himself or others include the Caserta tragedy, sponsors wanting to exploit his famous name and pressure from his widowed mother, who didn't want to lose another beloved family member to such a dangerous way of life.

16. In its time, the Swiss Grand Prix (at Bremgarten, not Dijon) was unique among world championship races in the way it was scheduled. How so?

No clue.

I don't think it had anything to do with the date, so I'll guess they were run to time and not distance.

Held on a weekday ?

It was on Saturday.

Heat system?

It was a week after another race. That probably has just enough fact in it to sound really adorable.

Held on the same week as the indy 500

I'll give a point for the Indy 500 answer as Bremgarten was indeed on the same week as the 500 in 1951. The actual answer I was looking for, though, was that it was held on the same day as the Swiss motorcycle Grand Prix from 1951-54 (the 1950 motorcycle races were held in Geneva in August).

17. Apart from the Indianapolis 500, what was the only race in the history of the world championship not to carry the words "Grand Prix" or any translation thereof in its official race title?

The Race of Two Worlds at Monza?

I had a shower-thought earlier: the Grand Prix without it in the title might actually have been the Pescara Grand Prix. Is it too late to change my answer from the Magyar Nagydij?

I'm going to guess that the Pescara Grand Prix was still officially the Coppa Acerbo. It's that or AVUS, but I think that was called the German Grand Prix and not the AVUSRennen.

The 1957 Pescara GP was still called the Coppa Acerbo.

Pescara

Pescara is correct, though the Coppa Acerbo name had gone out of fashion since the fall of the Mussolini regime, instead going for the simpler "Circuito di Pescara" title. Although, truth be told, there is inconsistency over the name of the 1957 race. The official programme and Motor Sport call it a Grand Prix but enumerate it as the 25th edition of the race in the lineage of both the Circuito and Coppa Acerbo races, other secondary sources continue the "Circuito di Pescara" naming convention. In all honesty I just wanted some filler.

18. Who was the first driver to be killed at the wheel of a world championship-winning car (type, not necessarily the exact chassis)?

I'm too embarrassed to say my guess

Charles de Tornaco?

Charles de Tornaco?

I don't know of anyone killed in a 50s Alfa Romeo, so it must be Charles de Tornaco. Unless you mean a constructors' championship, in which case I'll say Stuart Lewis-Evans.

Emilio Villoresi

I was expecting to see Achille Varzi or at least Jean-Pierre Wimille among these answers as both were Alfa drivers who regularly drove 158s and Varzi was indeed killed driving one, but when I started seeing de Tornaco's name answered even by people who surely must have known of the previous deaths I began to think that I probably should have phrased this question better and awarded points for de Tornaco seeing as it is technically correct. The answer I was looking for, though, was Emilio "Mimi" Villoresi, a young Italian voiturette driver (and yes, he's Luigi's brother) possibly destined for greater things only to be killed testing a 158 Alfetta at Monza. Despite also awarding a point for this I further realised that the correct answer must surely be Antonio Ascari, seeing as Alfa Romeo did win the 1925 world championship for manufacturers but, as I did not think of him at the time I wrote the question, the point for Villoresi will be allowed to stand, along with the one for de Tornaco.

19. "Winston Churchill spurred on our troops during the war with his famous Victory Sign, but if (blank) isn't careful he will see more vigorous signs of this sort directed at the (blank) around the circuits of Europe." Fill in the blanks that are the subject of this rather humorous passage.

not even trying

Vettel, Red Bull?

This is obviously some Mike Hawthorn quote. I'll say "Luigi Musso" and "grandstands". It doesn't make sense, but whatever.

Raymond Mays, BRM?

Raymond Mays, BRM (don't give me points for that, I just googled the quote)

The quote was from Motor Sport's report of the 1952 Ulster Trophy where, again, BRM embarrassed themselves with their usual reliability troubles. This remains probably my favourite quote from Motor Sport Magazine (and there are plenty of gems).

20. On the weekend of a world championship Grand Prix he entered the support race for a lower category, won his heat, finished second in the final, then swapped the engine he used in the support race for a larger one so he could compete in the Grand Prix itself - in the same car. Who fits this description?

Jacky Ickx.

This sounds like something Stirling Moss would do circa 1960.

Duncan Hamilton.

Duncan Hamilton.

Sounds like something Reg Parnell would do

Harry Schell is the answer and the race he did this at was the 1950 Monaco Grand Prix. He raced his 500cc Cooper in the F3 support races, then swapped the engine out for another one twice the size. Sadly, he didn't last very long thanks to the massive pileup at Tabac.

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