F1 Rejects Track Designing Competition

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 20 Jun 2015, 20:41

Milwaukee Street Circuit:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6640856

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 20 Jun 2015, 21:43

My entry near Dover http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6640880

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 21 Jun 2015, 02:29

Here's one I made some time ago. I had a minor obsession with the roads near the Old Port of Marseille, and after days of "this would be cool, but then I can't have this one", I made two tracks very close together. This one fulfils the requirements.
http://gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6603023

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 21 Jun 2015, 02:40

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6641009

My return to the competition for the first time in a very long time. Probably pretty rejectful!

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 21 Jun 2015, 08:36

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6641115

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 21 Jun 2015, 09:47

This runs along a bit of Sydney Harbour that is some of the most expensive real estate in Australia. That wouldn't be a problem, would it?
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6641142

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Jun 2015, 14:11

Despite only entering twice, it appears I'm 6th in this year's title race! So I'll maybe start entering more often to try and get myself the trophy

Grande Prêmio do Rio
Sao Paulo has both Interlagos and its street circuit used for Indy. Meanwhile, Rio de Janeiro's only major track, Jacarepaguá, has been bulldozed to make way for Olympic buildings. This isn't fair!

And so, only a couple of miles from the location of the former Jacarepaguá is this street circuit around the districts of Joá and Barra da Tijuca. A real mixed bag - the start/finish line would be located on what is KM marker 3 on the gmap, meaning the lap starts and ends quickly, with the middle sectors winding through the punishing streets of Joá.

For logistical purposes, the pitlane would probably have to be along Estrada da Barra da Tijuca - closing both lanes of Avenida Ministro Ivan Lins so one could operate as a pitlane would be too chatoic.

Post by **tommykl** » 21 Jun 2015, 15:34

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6641334

Ostende Straatscircuit

This circuit is a fast one.

To fill the void left by the decaying Zolder, Flanders wanted a new circuit. Their own Spa. But they don't have any countryside to speak of, so instead of avoiding their ridiculously large urban areas, they embraced them. Ostende is the largest city on the Belgian coast, with wide open spaces between the buildings and the beaches. Perfect for motor racing.

Unfortunately, due to practical constraints, the start-finish straight is not by the sea, but rather in a long fast sweeping curve. The circuit goes anti-clockwise, and quickly turns left away from the centre of Ostende towards the port. That stretch towards the port is taken flat out through over 2 kilometres, with a slight kink in the middle waiting to catch out unwary drivers. At the end of the "straight", a sudden braking zone takes the drivers into the circuit's only hairpin, which widens onto the far end of Ostende's Esplanade.

At this point, the surface is bricks, tiles and cobblestones, but the track is wide. Really wide. The track wraps around Ostende's famous casino in a quick, flowing chicane into a kilomtre-long blast between the wide beach and the tourist attractions. At the end of this stretch, the track follows the land in a very quick chicane, the drivers barely letting go of the throttle until a medium-speed chicane away from the coastline, through the layer of buildings and onto the N34 road running parallel. This road leads the drivers towards the final corner, a straight-forward left-hander onto the start-finish straight.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 21 Jun 2015, 15:47

The Grand Prix of Sardinia:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6641357

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 21 Jun 2015, 15:58

Valletta GP

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6641421

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 22 Jun 2015, 17:13

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6642338

A track in Genoa. Apart from the first and the last 90-degrees corners, it's fast, twisty and indeed quite tricky.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 23 Jun 2015, 09:48

Track in Northern San Fran

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6642926

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 26 Jun 2015, 18:30

It's been three days now since the last entry - time to wrap things up surely? tBone?

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 26 Jun 2015, 22:09

Biscione wrote:It's been three days now since the last entry - time to wrap things up surely? tBone?

We decided the limit is nine days before we put it to an old-style vote. (Reminding him is okay, I just couldn't tell if you didn't know)

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 26 Jun 2015, 22:42

A ranking will be posted sunday!

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 28 Jun 2015, 20:57

Here it is: the verdict!

DSQ - Benetton
Quite a nice track, but it does not include a road along the coast of a sea or lake.

12 - tommykl
(Too) long straights, some chicanes, some 90 degree corners and a hairpin. No flow at all, it would be a very start-stop kind of ride around this track. Also, it lacks variation in corners.

11 - go_Rubens
First 3.5 km exists of flat out with one hairpin. The rest is pretty neat, but nothing special.

10 - Bleu
Nice start with an opening 1st corner. The part thereafter is very (too?) technical. Not a very varying sector up to 3.5 km, mainly start-stop with tight bends. Last bit is ok.

9 - Simtek
1st chicane a little tight, nice flow 1-5 km with varying bends. Last bit a little too much start-stop.

8 - pi314159
From the start up to the 4 km mark, this track is nice. Varying S-curves and other bends make it quite a challenge. Thereafter, it is quite dull to be honest.

7 - novitopoli
A nice section between km 1 and km 5. The 90 degree corners before and after start-finish kind of take away the flow.

6 - AdrianBelmonte_
After km 2, it is very nice. Between 1 and 2 km there are too many 90 degree corners, but I see you couldn't do it another way on this location.

5 - UgnCreativeusergname
Very nice flowing track. I would have liked just the one hairpin or tight chicane. This is all quite fast and open.

4 - peteroli34
Up to 4 km, the track flows nicely. 4-5.5 km is too long flatout for my tastes. It does provide a nice overtaking opportunity at the hairpin and the rest of the track is again quite ok.

3 - roblomas52
The tight chicane after the start seems made for incidents. A nice section follows after that, with different corners and different challenges. A great overtaking opportunity at the end of the lap with that hairpin as well.

2 - Biscione
A very good track. A tight technical section and some more open sections would make it hard to find a good setup. The double hairpin at the 5 km mark seems a little bit too much though.

1 - More_Blue_Flags
Great track, lots of different corners, very good flow. I'm just not sure whether the extra loop at Point Piper makes it better or worse, but congratulations, you're the winner of this challenge!

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 28 Jun 2015, 21:58

That's great, but I thought we were making a return to democracy and voting on best tracks?

If everyone is happy with me trampling on your rights in a Bernie-approved fashion I will post the next challenge Tuesday night Australian Eastern Standard Time (about 36 hours from now) - if not, you have that long to demand your voting rights!

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 28 Jun 2015, 22:14

More_Blue_Flags wrote:That's great, but I thought we were making a return to democracy and voting on best tracks?

If everyone is happy with me trampling on your rights in a Bernie-approved fashion I will post the next challenge Tuesday night Australian Eastern Standard Time (about 36 hours from now) - if not, you have that long to demand your voting rights!

The vote is just a backup for when the person setting the challenge fails to declare a winner within nine days of the last entry. As challenge-setter, tBone successfully declared you the winner inside that timeframe, so you're free to set the next challenge anyway

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 30 Jun 2015, 09:19

The Brisbane ePrix

When I am not lurking and occasionally posting here on the forum, I am a middle-management type in the state public service, which as you can probably imagine is a pretty dreary existence. What would liven up my working day is a motorsport event that I can watch from my office or, failing that, one that I can see from another government building where I can schedule an otherwise pointless meeting for my like-minded colleagues.

A Formula E event here in Brisbane would fit the bill nicely, so what I am looking for is a 2.4 km to 3.0 km track in Brisbane that fits completely within this boundary. http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648481

Use either existing roads or existing open spaces large/wide enough to run a track through (I am not quite senior enough to get away with demolishing buildings), but I am prepared to be fairly lenient about installing an extra on-ramp or flattening out a traffic divider or roundabout if needed. Don't worry about temporary inconveniences to business or residents from road closures, my colleagues in Transport and the Emergency Services can sort that out.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 30 Jun 2015, 10:14

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648514

The pit lane will go through Water Street, the parking area to the left (where team tents are located) and Costin Street before joining the circuit again on Gregory Terrace.

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Jun 2015, 10:22

Here's my attempt: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648529

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 30 Jun 2015, 10:49

My attempt http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648533

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 30 Jun 2015, 12:19

Just made it within 3 km: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648572

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 30 Jun 2015, 12:22

My attempt: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648574

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 30 Jun 2015, 13:05

Here she is (the chicanes on the main straight aren't supposed to be there): http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648604

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Jun 2015, 18:48

Here is mine

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6648886

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 30 Jun 2015, 19:21

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648915

I thought i'd have a go for once. I don't expect to win as it's just something I knocked up in less than 10 minutes.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 30 Jun 2015, 21:15

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6649043

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 01 Jul 2015, 00:18

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6649157

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 01 Jul 2015, 10:50

FullMetalJack wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6648915

I thought i'd have a go for once. I don't expect to win as it's just something I knocked up in less than 10 minutes.

There's nothing wrong with knocking up a track in 10 minutes, but south of the river puts it out of bounds - that's an automatic DNQ.

EDIT : I must say I am impressed with the number and quality of responses so far. Good to see everyone is so keen to relieve my workday boredom.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 04 Jul 2015, 22:38

I hate to rush things but isn't it about time we had those rankings?

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 04 Jul 2015, 23:43

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6652170

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 05 Jul 2015, 00:23

Right, I was just about to post the rankings for the Brisbane ePrix challenge when AdrianBelmonte submitted his track - just in case there is a late rush of "knocking up a track to kill time before the British GP starts or to fill in time on a quiet Sunday night" entries I will postpone posting the rankings until Monday evening Australian Eastern Standard Time.

FullMetalJack, if my last post wasn't clear you are free to submit a revised/new track that fits within the allocated boundaries - it's only a DNQ if that is your only attempt.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 05 Jul 2015, 20:06

More_Blue_Flags wrote:Right, I was just about to post the rankings for the Brisbane ePrix challenge when AdrianBelmonte submitted his track - just in case there is a late rush of "knocking up a track to kill time before the British GP starts or to fill in time on a quiet Sunday night" entries I will postpone posting the rankings until Monday evening Australian Eastern Standard Time.

FullMetalJack, if my last post wasn't clear you are free to submit a revised/new track that fits within the allocated boundaries - it's only a DNQ if that is your only attempt.

I'll take the DNQ, given that the main appeal of the track was how it crossed the river.

Thank you anyway.

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 06 Jul 2015, 09:01

Brisbane ePrix results
Thanks for your efforts, everyone - I wasn't surprised that a lot of you saw the potential of the elevation changes associated with the Spring Hill (Roma St parklands, Wickham Terrace, Leichhardt Street) end of town, although I would have liked to have seen an entry or two near QUT and Parliament House. I have assumed the start/finish line and direction are as shown by your mile markers unless stated otherwise.

DNQ - FullMetalJack - Alas, this was outside the boundaries, even if on reflection I do wish I had included the South Bank / Highgate Hill area. Not a fan of the 270-degree turn at the north end of the William Jolly Bridge, though.

10. peteroli34 - The Water St hairpin thing was the big turn off for me, I think it will be too short and narrow to provide a good overtaking opportunity, although it might provide excitement of the wrong kind...

9. UgnreativeUsergname and 8. Simtek - Both of these mostly flow and make good use of Albert St, but both seem to have accepted an awkward compromise to around Emma Miller Place or the Transit Centre to make it fit with a bit of road or a corner you really wanted.

7. Bleu - It's probably hard to make better use of the available roads around that part of town - especially the first and last km or so, but the middle sector drags it down to a fairly standard street circuit. Serviceable, but unmemorable.

6. Normal32 - The Astor Terrace to Boundary Street bit looks like you were told to modify your first draft to keep off Turbot St and have just had to make do with the roads that are left.

5. novitopoli and 4. roblomas52 - both make good use of elevation changes and flow well, though perhaps novitopoli's Astor St diversion and roblomas52's long loop around the parklands (and associated straights) don't deliver too much.

3. AdrianBelmonte - good to see an entry around Suncorp Stadium and Hale St. The hairpin thingy at the southern end of the main straight reminds me a bit of Long Beach (on paper) , although I think it will be pretty tight and short and together with the Quay St compromises in the first sector will break up the flow a bit.

2. tBone - Ann St for the start/finish straight and that first left-hander don't seem quite right for what is otherwise a very competitive track. Perhaps this a bit too much local knowledge coming into play, but I keep wanting to see that track go clockwise and turn down Turbot St...

1. tommykl - My only concern with this would be that the longish uphill stretch along Countess St to the right hander to come back down Wickham Tce might make Formula E cars look a bit anemic, but this is a worthy winner from among a competitive field.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 11 Jul 2015, 20:54

WERE IS CHALENGE

Post by **tommykl** » 12 Jul 2015, 18:25

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:WERE IS CHALENGE

Yeah, I picked the wrong time to go on holiday

So yeah, your challenge. It's got an AltF1 (1950s) theme.

The Soviet Grand Prix has just been held at the Pirita-Kose-Kloostrimetsa circuit near Tallinn, Estonia, but the organisation was a complete shambles. However, the Soviet authorities maintain that this was the fault of the circuit layout. In a bid to stay on the calendar for 1956, they have to create a new circuit from scratch.

You must build a circuit using only existing roads (roundabouts and central divides can be torn down) within the limits of the former Soviet Union.

There is no strict limit on the length, but please keep it somewhere between 3 and 20 kilometres.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 12 Jul 2015, 19:11

The Ministry of Automobile Transportation of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic proudly presents the Sevastopol Street Circuit, a 15 km track boasting 1 km+ straights, extremely tight hairpin bends and an elevation difference of 200 metres that will test both man and machine to their very limits.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 12 Jul 2015, 22:15

Kaunas: http://gmap-pedometer.com?r=6659099

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 13 Jul 2015, 06:50

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6659280