Grand Prix Rejects

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6683646

Circuit Llao Llao 24,4 km

It's long like the other ones, but it has lots of tight and twisty sections in amongst the straights. A potential monster. http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684475

Definitely more than 65 km from Buenos Aires...: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684619

dr-baker wrote:Definitely more than 65 km from Buenos Aires...: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684619

Ooooooh, that's controversial...

Why i wouldn't participate

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684791

Simtek wrote:

dr-baker wrote:Definitely more than 65 km from Buenos Aires...: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684619

Ooooooh, that's controversial...

Yeah, just a bit. Just ask Jeremy Clarkson... And the battle was a third of a century ago now.

Well, dr-baker, I'll have to go with not in Argentina. I was expecting some France-style far-off island I had never heard of and I was very disappointed.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Well, dr-baker, I'll have to go with not in Argentina. I was expecting some France-style far-off island I had never heard of and I was very disappointed.

I was anticipating that, and to be honest, I don't really consider the FALKLANDS to be Argentinian either. I'll maybe try something else another day...

The Parque General San Martin Circuit, Mendoza
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6685117

Here it is: the Ushuaia Grand Prix.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686033

novitopoli wrote:Here it is: the Ushuaia Grand Prix.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686033

Why is everyone seemingly going for Ushuaia? Even I tried a design there (a rally stage, in fact) before settling on the Andes

The high speed Grand Prix de Santa Fe: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686497

Simtek wrote:

novitopoli wrote:Here it is: the Ushuaia Grand Prix.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686033

Why is everyone seemingly going for Ushuaia? Even I tried a design there (a rally stage, in fact) before settling on the Andes

I swear I hadn't looked through the other tracks, yet some of them are quite similar to mine!

novitopoli wrote:

Simtek wrote:

novitopoli wrote:Here it is: the Ushuaia Grand Prix.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686033

Why is everyone seemingly going for Ushuaia? Even I tried a design there (a rally stage, in fact) before settling on the Andes

I swear I hadn't looked through the other tracks, yet some of them are quite similar to mine!

Maybe everyone just wants to get as far away from Buenos Aires as possible, hence there are so many designs in Tierra del Fuego. Still, they all look pretty good so far

I first looked on Balcarce in honor of Juan Manuel Fangio but whole place is full of 90-degree cornes and nothing else.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6688679

I got some inspiration from Simtek's Targa Florio-style circuit, only this one is faster, slightly shorter (56km) and a bit further South, around the town of San Carlos de Bariloche. There are winding mountain roads full of hairpins and fast sweeping blasts along the lake.

tommykl wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6687727

Something weird is going on. It's 1.4843 km long and it's just the start and end points with no line between them.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:

tommykl wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6687727

Something weird is going on. It's 1.4843 km long and it's just the start and end points with no line between them.

Huh. So it is. Well, it's fixed now, I believe.

Track in Mendoza
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6689162

tBone: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6683069
Simtek: http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=451574
HawkAussie: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6683338
Bleu: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6683400
Benetton: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6683646
peteroli34: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6683878
Biscione: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684475
Normal32: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6684791
More_Blue_Flags: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6685117
novitopoli: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686033
dr-baker: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6686497
tommykl: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6688679
roblomas52: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6689162

I have a lot of kilometres to judge so don't expect the results to come too quickly

13. novitopoli
Uses all the same roads of an earlier track.

12. HawkAussie
There are five corners and they aren't even all different.

11. Normal32
Some good corners, but far too many square corners and chicanes for one track.

10. dr-baker
I love all the corners—3 km in particular looks epic, as does 11—but with straights that long, you could do that anywhere in the world.

9. Biscione
The first 12 km looks flowing, but there's a lot of time between each corner. Then after that, technically every corner is a little bit different, but you still feel like you're doing the same thing over and over. So many hairpins and slowish corners connected to each other.

8. More_Blue_Flags
I love how difficult the first corner looks. It's like the last turn at Shanghai but braking from full speed. But then the 1-km corner is probably flat, the "roundabout on the outside" gimmick is used twice, and there are two roundabouts that don't add anything other than artificially making overtaking harder. The rest of the corners in the north are pretty cool, but not enough to make me want to drive the circuit.

7. tommykl
This is like dr-baker's, but more extreme. You have really cool corners but really ridiculous straights. The sheer number of exciting corners got it this high, but then from 25 km on... that's just stupid....

6. Bleu
None of the corners are particularly good (except I love the one between 5 and 6 km), but none of them are bad. There's a bit too much curved braking even for my taste. And like many of the tracks, most of what you'll be doing is threading through Valencia kinks.

5. Simtek
Again we see slowish mountain esses that are technically all different but, really, you're going to get bored after a while. The rest of the track is pretty good, though. There are a lot of medium-fast corners, and those are everyone's favourite thing.

4. peteroli34
You'd have some really interesting starts with this track. The first left-hander looks scary, and putting a tight corner right after it should make for some dramatic braking. I guess you could say it's like Signes like I've mentioned before, but I see it more like the start of Estoril. The corners at 1 mile remind me of Brooklands and Luffield and that is a good thing. Then having a fairly slow corner with a little chicane after it is also cool. Can you imagine how cool it would be if the Rindt chicane actually meant anything? The chicane after that looks fun as well. And then, well... Abu Dhabi. But the southwest complex looks satisfying, but the last few corners look more awkward than challenging. But overall I'd enjoy racing here.

3. tBone
Besides anything high-radius, this has pretty much every type of corner. I could point out one thing that's really good, but they're all really good. Although overtaking looks impossible....

2. roblomas52
A mountain section that knows when it's about to get boring, finally. Much like tBone there's nothing to criticise, except the turn at 6 km looks easy flat. But yep, a couple "how do I not lock up" corners, and the last two turns look immensely fun. Great circuit.

1. Benetton
I hope you like anything, because if you do, this track is for you. It's a true adventure circuit, and if it was raced on in the 1950s it would be a legend. Maybe go even further back, to pre-war GPs. That's kind of what this feels like. I would say where is Hometown GP, but it really feels like it's meant for cars with an old school spirit. Anyway, you can't review the whole universe, and besides, the more I think about this track the more I'm depressed that I can't drive it.

I had designed another track, yet I forgot to post it here

A win! Nice!

Your next challenge is to design a tarmac rally stage on the island of Corsica in the Mediterranean to celebrate the return of Tour de Corse into the WRC calender this season.

Design: A tarmac rally stage. Point A to point B. Some small gravel sections can be included.
Lenght of the stage: anything between 5 and 50 km.

It's not the 24th yet in some countries! http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6695930

My route:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6698376

I didn't enter this challenge so this sort of slipped further down my mind, but Benetton, you've got some tracks to judge.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:I didn't enter this challenge so this sort of slipped further down my mind, but Benetton, you've got some tracks to judge.

I think we're at the voting stage now...

If we're voting, then:

1. novitopoli
2. tommykl

Sorry I've been really busy so forgot a bit about this. But I have a winner for you

Novitopoli!

Really, interesting take by picking a routh on the northern side of the island. It looks challenging and fast at the same time.

Wow! That means I'll have to come up with a challenge. Well...

The Border-Crossing Challenge

As the name states: your circuits must go through two, or more, nations. Some rules:
- The track must be max. 12 km long.
- You can build new roads, but the more existing roads you'll be able to use, the better. If you can't use existing roads, that's not a problem either.
- Avoid going through buildings as far as you can, except for fences/any kind of border-related stuff.
- Don't cross rivers/seas.
- Keep it somehow realistic, by which I mean "don't build new roads where no one could/would reasonably do" (e.g. on high mountain peaks).

Monaco on steroids.

The track uses parts of the existing Monaco circuit, specifically the section from the main straight up to Casino Square. That's not going to be a problem, is it?

novitopoli wrote:Wow! That means I'll have to come up with a challenge. Well...

The Border-Crossing Challenge

As the name states: your circuits must go through two, or more, nations. Some rules:

I assume for the sake of this challenge that England, Scotland and Wales are all the same nation, but Ireland and Ireland are different nations (Northern and Eire)?