F1 Rejects Nations Cup, Division B Race Up

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Jan 2013, 18:43

tristan1117 wrote:Aside from being more than a little bit racist, I can't fit that in GP2. Drivers are accepted though.

I dare you to explain to me how exactly "Great Wall" is being racist or in any other shape offensive to Chinese people and make that argument seem reasonable. You will fail.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Jan 2013, 18:48

Klon wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Aside from being more than a little bit racist, I can't fit that in GP2. Drivers are accepted though.

I dare you to explain to me how exactly "Great Wall" is being racist or in any other shape offensive to Chinese people and make that argument seem reasonable. You will fail.

You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 21 Jan 2013, 18:49

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Klon wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Aside from being more than a little bit racist, I can't fit that in GP2. Drivers are accepted though.

I dare you to explain to me how exactly "Great Wall" is being racist or in any other shape offensive to Chinese people and make that argument seem reasonable. You will fail.

You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

I concur.

I tried to post something similar, but Stramala beat me to it.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 21 Jan 2013, 18:51

FMecha wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:
FMecha wrote:Roblomas, I approve your usage of my former F3RWRS driver Lee-Wang. Whoever controls second Japan team, I offer Hiroto Tojo for a seat there.

Will accept Tojo with the pairing of Kazuki Nakajima, 2012 Formula Nippon Champion and former F1 driver/F1 reject (I don't think he'll be out of racing by the time this rolls around although he may be in Japanese GT racing or Indy Car).
The question is will Tojo be racing for the Japanese #1 team or with mine.
E: 7 R: 3

Since the #1 Japanese team is full already, I earmarked "deal approved" on that.

Good! The Japanese teams are completed.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Jan 2013, 18:55

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

Welp. That'll teach me not to open my big cakesocket.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:07

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Klon wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Aside from being more than a little bit racist, I can't fit that in GP2. Drivers are accepted though.

I dare you to explain to me how exactly "Great Wall" is being racist or in any other shape offensive to Chinese people and make that argument seem reasonable. You will fail.

You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

it was the resullt of living over the road from a chineese takeaway :oops:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:10

roblomas52 wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

it was the resullt of living over the road from a chineese takeaway

I live across from an Indian takeaway, you don't see me making team names from their menu, do you?

Post by **Ataxia** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:20

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

it was the resullt of living over the road from a chineese takeaway

I live across from an Indian takeaway, you don't see me making team names from their menu, do you?

Next time I have a team, I'm just gonna look in the freezer and see what I can come up with. Go, Team Bird's Eye Garden Pea Smart Price Sausage And Homemade Cottage Pie Racing!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:24

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I live across from an Indian takeaway, you don't see me making team names from their menu, do you?

Perhaps I should rename Tropico GP "Currywurst Motorsport". :lol:

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:27

To be fair we do have a team in Life GP called Néstle Racing

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:40

Incidentally guys, my F1RWRS team is going to be called Big Mac McChicken Sandwich Quarter Pounder with Cheese Garden Side Salad Chicken McNuggets Fillet-o-Fish Spicy Veggie Sandwich Chicken Legend Big Tasty McDonald's Racing.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 21 Jan 2013, 20:43

Might rename Plus One to Chicken Lamb Fillet Beef Shank Steak Rib Mutton Eye Venison Mince Horse Burger Turkey Leg Drumstick powered by Tesco's Racing...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 21 Jan 2013, 21:14

pasta_maldonado wrote:Might rename Plus One to Chicken Lamb Fillet Beef Shank Steak Rib Mutton Eye Venison Mince Horse Burger Turkey Leg Drumstick powered by Tesco's Racing...

LOL @ Mince Horse Burger... :roll:

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 21 Jan 2013, 22:09

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:You missed the bit where the team name was an entire list of items from a Chinese takeaway menu.

it was the resullt of living over the road from a chineese takeaway

I live across from an Indian takeaway, you don't see me making team names from their menu, do you?

Well if we're going to use stereotypes, i could run 'Drugs and Prostitutes Team Holland' But this is a family forum :oops:

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 21 Jan 2013, 22:40

Team: Aero Kings Racing for Great Britain (aka F1RWRS Team Great Britain....)
Driver 1: Pippa Mann
Driver 2: The Stig
Driver 3: Martin McFry
Driver 4: James Davies
All again assuming their managers let me.
E: 3 R: 7

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Jan 2013, 22:46

That depends which James Davies you're offering the drive to...

I assume you mean F1RWRS James Davies, in which case he gladly accepts. F1RGP2C James Davies is still none too pleased with McFry.

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 21 Jan 2013, 22:54

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:That depends which James Davies you're offering the drive to...

I assume you mean F1RWRS James Davies, in which case he gladly accepts. F1RGP2C James Davies is still none too pleased with McFry.

Don't worry, it's the F1RWRS one.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Jan 2013, 23:59

FloProAct wrote:Team: Aero Kings Racing for Great Britain (aka F1RWRS Team Great Britain....)
Driver 1: Pippa Mann
Driver 2: The Stig
Driver 3: Martin McFry
Driver 4: James Davies
All again assuming their managers let me.
E: 3 R: 7

And why on earth this ISN'T the GB A team is beyond me. I nearly threw my laptop out the window when I saw how badly EastLondoner screwed up the A-Team entry. Just swap M. Dagnall and McFry around and this team will pretty much dominate the championship.

Post by **Londoner** » 22 Jan 2013, 00:05

Wizzie wrote:
FloProAct wrote:Team: Aero Kings Racing for Great Britain (aka F1RWRS Team Great Britain....)
Driver 1: Pippa Mann
Driver 2: The Stig
Driver 3: Martin McFry
Driver 4: James Davies
All again assuming their managers let me.
E: 3 R: 7

And why on earth this ISN'T the GB A team is beyond me. I nearly threw my laptop out the window when I saw how badly EastLondoner screwed up the A-Team entry. Just swap M. Dagnall and McFry around and this team will pretty much dominate the championship.

OI! Just you wait and see when Britain Royale wipes the floor with everyone! :twisted:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 22 Jan 2013, 00:12

Wizzie wrote:
FloProAct wrote:Team: Aero Kings Racing for Great Britain (aka F1RWRS Team Great Britain....)
Driver 1: Pippa Mann
Driver 2: The Stig
Driver 3: Martin McFry
Driver 4: James Davies
All again assuming their managers let me.
E: 3 R: 7

And why on earth this ISN'T the GB A team is beyond me. I nearly threw my laptop out the window when I saw how badly EastLondoner screwed up the A-Team entry. Just swap M. Dagnall and McFry around and this team will pretty much dominate the championship.

That would also open the door to swap James Davies for the James Davies that is actually pretty good.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Jan 2013, 00:26

Wizzie wrote:
FloProAct wrote:Team: Aero Kings Racing for Great Britain (aka F1RWRS Team Great Britain....)
Driver 1: Pippa Mann
Driver 2: The Stig
Driver 3: Martin McFry
Driver 4: James Davies
All again assuming their managers let me.
E: 3 R: 7

And why on earth this ISN'T the GB A team is beyond me. I nearly threw my laptop out the window when I saw how badly EastLondoner screwed up the A-Team entry. Just swap M. Dagnall and McFry around and this team will pretty much dominate the championship.

I'm waiting for whomever owns the Germany 2 team to pick Vettel and Nico Rosberg/Glock/Michael/Heidfeld/Bernd Schneider/Krautmeir. Pick any one of those guys (except Schneider) and they have a good chance at the title.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 22 Jan 2013, 00:47

I will put Wibbah in the car. Simon Redman is the reserve driver for if any current drivers say I RAGEQUIT HEH

Post by **Ataxia** » 22 Jan 2013, 01:24

I'm incredibly sorry to be pedantic, but I found a couple of errors on the wiki regarding a pair of my drivers.

a) It's Jantscher, not Janschter...

b) José Alvarez's son carries his mother's surname Torrente too.

Again, apologies for my OCD-ness...it's just that all my drivers have wiki pages so I guess I wanted to remove the red names. As you were, folks

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 22 Jan 2013, 03:48

What is going to happen with the point system and team cup?

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Jan 2013, 06:07

Matt121 wrote:What is going to happen with the point system and team cup?

Glad you asked. Here is how the logistics of the series will work.

Format
Points System
The points system will be 15-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1, plus one point for fastest lap and pole position. I was debating between this and the current F1 points system, but this is easier to add in my head, so I chose this one.

Drivers' Cup
Although the series is an ostensibly national affair, drivers can still compete in the individual cup. Each division will have its own separate Drivers' Cup. WInning the division is a moot point though, as placing highly in the divisional round only helps you to the official "F1RNC Final" rounds. After seven rounds, the best driver wins the Drivers' Cup. The number of drivers that will make the Final Round is 28. It is conceivable that a division winner may not even qualify for the next round, depending on how the rest of their nation's drivers perform, but because I am trying to make this a "team effort". This does create a large bias towards four-car teams, but a good two-car team should be able to hold their own.

Nations' Cup
However, the Drivers' Cup is most definitely secondary to the Nations' Cup. The original plan was to just take the three best teams from the divisions, but because I expanded the nation base and allowed two-car teams, I have tweaked it slightly. For starters, all the nations will be thrown onto one gigantic leaderboard, rather than in separate divisional standings. The Top 14 teams will make the Final by placing at the top of this leaderboard. Four-car teams will be narrowed down to their top two drivers (depending on how they competed). The teams will all compete for the F1 Rejects International Trophy.

As you can see, this is not a perfect system. My main problem is that only 25% of the 112 drivers will be able to compete in the Finals. I could institute some sort of pre-qualifying system for the Finals and increase the total entrants to 40, but that might allow a disproportionate amount of nations into the next round, which some people might not like. Basically, it boils down to this: Do you want more nations in the Grand Final at the risk of a pre-qualifying lottery? Feedback would be appreciated.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Jan 2013, 06:10

Well, it's called The Finals for a reason. Therefore, Tropico would rather prefer the first proposal of the top 14 teams making it through to the final.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 22 Jan 2013, 06:34

May I suggest Jorg Scrattenheim for Germany 2. He may be a bit old but he still wants to see how different modern single seaters to race. Battani accepts his offer to race and so does Prince Walik, who seens to have lost none of his ego over the years and seems to be even richer tham before.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Jan 2013, 13:53

FloProAct wrote:Team: Aero Kings Racing for Great Britain (aka F1RWRS Team Great Britain....)
Driver 1: Pippa Mann
Driver 2: The Stig
Driver 3: Martin McFry
Driver 4: James Davies
All again assuming their managers let me.
E: 3 R: 7

Got my permission for the use of both fictional Pippa Mann (assuming you mean fictional, not real-life, Pippa Mann) and for Martin McFry. This therefore means, unless I missed something, that of my fictional drivers, only Ben Fleet is not taking part...

tristan1117 wrote: As you can see, this is not a perfect system. My main problem is that only 25% of the 112 drivers will be able to compete in the Finals. I could institute some sort of pre-qualifying system for the Finals and increase the total entrants to 40, but that might allow a disproportionate amount of nations into the next round, which some people might not like. Basically, it boils down to this: Do you want more nations in the Grand Final at the risk of a pre-qualifying lottery? Feedback would be appreciated.

Wizzie wrote:Well, it's called The Finals for a reason. Therefore, Tropico would rather prefer the first proposal of the top 14 teams making it through to the final.

I agree with Wizzie.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 22 Jan 2013, 16:21

This wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:I live across from an Indian takeaway, you don't see me making team names from their menu, do you?

Well if we're going to use stereotypes, i could run 'Drugs and Prostitutes Team Holland' But this is a family forum

That reminds me of this line on Conduct Unbecoming, the third mission in GTA Vice City Stories:

Sergeant Peppah wrote:Drugs! Whores! You're out of here soldier [Victor Vance], you're a disgrace!

[/quote]

And if we want need a food-based team name, Team Indonesia's would be "Fried rice-rendang-tempe-gado-gado-tumpeng-sate-karedok Racing Team" :lol:

(These are all Indonesian cuisines - google it

)

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 22 Jan 2013, 18:06

tristan1117 wrote: I'm waiting for whomever owns the Germany 2 team to pick Vettel and Nico Rosberg/Glock/Michael/Heidfeld/Bernd Schneider/Krautmeir. Pick any one of those guys (except Schneider) and they have a good chance at the title.

And here I am. Vettel is the obvious choice for driver 1, while driver 2 will be.... Bernd Schneider!

E:8 R: 2

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Jan 2013, 20:16

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
tristan1117 wrote: I'm waiting for whomever owns the Germany 2 team to pick Vettel and Nico Rosberg/Glock/Michael/Heidfeld/Bernd Schneider/Krautmeir. Pick any one of those guys (except Schneider) and they have a good chance at the title.

And here I am. Vettel is the obvious choice for driver 1, while driver 2 will be.... Bernd Schneider!

E:8 R: 2

And with that, all signups are closed. There will be no test sessions, so the first races of the four divisions will begin in earnest. Also, if you want to submit a team livery (nation-themed, of course), feel free to use the templates from the F1RWRS and post them. User-designed liveries are not mandatory and I can design some if needed. I will try to put as much video coverage as I have time to edit.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Jan 2013, 20:46

Nuppiz, can you send me a copy of the Alitalia F1RWRS livery please? I'd like to use it as a base for the IBR Scuderia Alitalia car.

Tristan, please make the Italia 2 team car blue all over with 'ITALIA' written in white on the sidepods.

Post by **Ataxia** » 22 Jan 2013, 21:36

Quickly done a car for France, download it here: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?0jexfq2lro2awl5

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Jan 2013, 21:54

Oh, and if anyone needs sponsors, Honda is supplying all the engines for this series. They have promised no bias towards Japanese teams.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 23 Jan 2013, 07:58

if someone is interested to make a livery for Bulgarian team - he will be well appreciated.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 23 Jan 2013, 10:04

The Australian livery will hopefully look like the old Champ Car Team Australia car

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Jan 2013, 11:48

Something like this would be nice:

adriojim · Post by **adriojim** » 23 Jan 2013, 14:56

Where can I get F1RWRS templates?

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 23 Jan 2013, 15:17

adriojim wrote:Where can I get F1RWRS templates?

FMecha, in F1RWRS 2014 thread, wrote:When working with cars for Grand Prix 2 I always use this template. It is self-made. The letters in wings are there for assistance.

Klon, I want you to check the wild mass guessing page.

Use that.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 23 Jan 2013, 15:23

I am not much used to make liveries (I am a total crap on everything that goes to drawing to visual arts), so something like the mid 90s Newman Haas could be useful for Brazil