Grand Prix Rejects

peteroli34 wrote:

tommykl wrote:

mario wrote:Something a little light hearted - speaking of Coulthard, he was once asked over the radio how the car was performing during the 2006 Canadian GP. What was his response?

Something to the tune of "The car's awful, no grip whatsoever, no downforce, tyres are graining badly...apart from that, everything's great, having lots of fun!"

Im pretty sure that was 2007 when he said that

You are correct - it was in fact 2007 that I was thinking of, not 2006, though tommykl has nevertheless found the message that I was thinking of. The version that I have seen is slightly different:

Pit wall: "David, how is the car?"
Coulthard: "Not good, doesn't turn, doesn't stop, no traction. Apart from that, it's great, having lots of fun."

Nevertheless, I think that tommykl was close enough to earn the points there (although I feel that peteroli34 does deserve something for correcting my question).

Hey, I'm happy to share the point

But anyways: Which Formula One reject was the first European driver to compete in NASCAR?

I was going to say Arturo Merzario (because of that hat), but surely he must have unrejectified himself at some stage.

Dieter Quester?

Brian Naylor?

I swear I remember reading about this earlier, but I kinda forgot the driver...

WaffleCat wrote:Brian Naylor?

I swear I remember reading about this earlier, but I kinda forgot the driver...

That is correct! He started the 1961 Daytona 500, but retired from the race.

Alright then, here's a little story, and for those following my alternative championship, you guys will know…

On July 18, James Hunt was classified first in his home Grand Prix at Brands Hatch, though this was without controversy as he was taken out in a first lap crash prior to the red flag but was able to restart, much to Ferrari's, Tyrrell's and Copersucar's (WHY???) behest.

On 25th September, a tribunal was held where Ferrari appealed for Hunt to be disqualified while McLaren defended their case. In this case, Ferrari's appeal was upheld, and James Hunt was disqualified from the race.

From July 18 to September 25, James Hunt was the winner of the 1976 British Grand Prix.

Also, through that time period from July 18 to September 25, one driver managed to complete his entire Formula One career.

Who was this driver?

Alessandro Pesenti-Rossi?

WaffleCat wrote:...much to Ferrari's, Tyrrell's and Copersucar's (WHY???) behest.

I think the word you're looking for there is "annoyance", or something similar. As far as I remember, those three teams did not want Hunt to take the restart

As for Fittipaldi's protest, they got a point out of it in the end, didn't they? And that point ensured they would eventually finish the championship in 11th ahead of Ensign. Foresight, my good man. Also, maybe Emmo had a personal dislike for the man who took his place at McLaren? He probably wanted Ingo Hoffmann to take his place instead and McLaren went "who?", and to add insult to injury they bring in this chain-smoking alcoholic whose name is used as a word filter on an internet forum.

As for the actual question... um... not Emerson Fittipaldi?

Yep, exactly right Normal32. Alessandro Pesenti-Rossi finished his entire Formula One career in the four Grands Prix between the British Grand Prix and the tribunal in the Scuderia Gulf Rondini Tyrrell 007, bearing no resemblance to James Bond apart from stealth as he remained unnoticed at the back of the grid, scoring a highest finish of 11th at the Austrian Grand Prix.

Alright then.

So, next question: How and what many countries in South America got represented by one driver or more in F1 history?, things like NC races counts, so go wild.

Normal32 wrote:Alright then.

So, next question: How and what many countries in South America got represented by one driver or more in F1 history?, things like NC races counts, so go wild.

I don't know what do you mean by "how" so I'll answer the other one

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AxelP800 wrote:

Normal32 wrote:Alright then.

So, next question: How and what many countries in South America got represented by one driver or more in F1 history?, things like NC races counts, so go wild.

I don't know what do you mean by "how" so I'll answer the other one

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I mean how in what specific country had at least 1 racing driver in a race, regardless if it is NC or not.

Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, Colombia and Venezuela, which makes for 6.

Seven

Argentina
Brazil
Uraquay
Colombia
Venezuala
Chile
Bolivia

8 countries

Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Colombia
Venezuala
Chile
Bolivia
Peru

Six

Argentine
Brazil
Colombia
Uruguay
Venezuela
Bolivia

Miguel98 wrote:8 countries

Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Colombia
Venezuala
Chile
Bolivia
Peru

Correct!

Right, a question...

The 1957 Moroccan Grand Prix, a Non-Championship race, featured a DNA for Stirling Moss and a non-characteristical performance by Juan Manuel Fangio. What was rumoured to be the cause of this?

Asian flu

andrew wrote:Asian flu

Hum.. That was easier than I thought. Correct.

Before 2014 who was the only driver to complete a race with number 13 on his car, which race was it and where did they finish

andrew wrote:Before 2014 who was the only driver to complete a race with number 13 on his car, which race was it and where did they finish

Moises Solana, Mexico 196...5? I'll say he finished 9th.

Divina Galica, DNQ?

Moises Solana 11th at the 1963 Mexican GP

Petroli got it.

Was it Belgium 2000

This race is on YouTube
1997 Belgium GP

AxelP800 wrote:This race is on YouTube
1997 Belgium GP

Yeah it was the 1997 Belgian GP not the most challenging of questions i know

What Canadian constructor and the engine it used back in 1960s at the team's only race and finished very close to points, and the race it entered

The Stebro-Ford (using a 4-pot 105E based engine) finished 7th driven by Peter Broeker in the 1963 US GP.

That was quick. Next is you then

What rare (i.e. unique or pretty close to it) feat have both Jacques Laffite and Heikki Kovalainen managed in F1?

Consecutive first corner retirements?

This'll be a good one: both of them have driven for two teams which are officially separate but had the same name.

Jacques Laffite drove for Iso-Marlboro in 1974 and Williams in 1975 - which were both incarnations of the old pre-Patrick Head team, Frank Williams Racing Cars. And when he had a two year stint with Williams in 1983-84 it was as Williams Grand Prix Engineering, with Patrick Head on board.

Heikki Kovalainen drove for Fondmetal Team Malaysia from 2010-12, the team which tried to pass itself off as Lotus for the first two of those years before reverting to Caterham, and then substituted for Kimi Räikkönen for the last two races of 2013 at The Team Based At Enstone, Formerly Known As Toleman, Benetton And Renault (Sponsored By Group Lotus And Genii Capital), which also tried to pass itself off as Lotus from 2012 to the present.

If that isn't the answer, I will eat my own nasal hair.

dinizintheoven wrote:This'll be a good one: both of them have driven for two teams which are officially separate but had the same name.

Jacques Laffite drove for Iso-Marlboro in 1974 and Williams in 1975 - which were both incarnations of the old pre-Patrick Head team, Frank Williams Racing Cars. And when he had a two year stint with Williams in 1983-84 it was as Williams Grand Prix Engineering, with Patrick Head on board.

Heikki Kovalainen drove for Fondmetal Team Malaysia from 2010-12, the team which tried to pass itself off as Lotus for the first two of those years before reverting to Caterham, and then substituted for Kimi Räikkönen for the last two races of 2013 at The Team Based At Enstone, Formerly Known As Toleman, Benetton And Renault (Sponsored By Group Lotus And Genii Capital), which also tried to pass itself off as Lotus from 2012 to the present.

If that isn't the answer, I will eat my own nasal hair.

Your nasal hair is safe I even had a "had Phil Hill somehow managed to extend his F1 career till 1978 then he had a chance of.." lined up as a clue if nobody got it. Over to you.

Yes! Victory! I knew it had to be something to do with Oncle Jacques' stint at Williams that was about as successful as... Heikki's two years at McLaren. Just a couple of leaps from there to where Heikki was turfed out to...

Anyway, I'm going to keep it perfectly simple, as it just occurred to me the other day this might be a good question:

How many Formula One drivers have competed in the British Touring Car Championship since the start of the Super Touring era - i.e. the 1991 season onwards - and who were they?

Said driver must have at least attempted to qualify (or at least pre-qualify) for both a World Championship F1 race at any time back to 1950 (so no non-championship races or the Aurora series) and a regular round of the BTCC (not the TOCA Shootout or similar), so Vincenzo Sospiri and Gary Brabham would count as F1 drivers for this purpose, Chanoch Nissany and Giacomo Agostini wouldn't.

Should be quite a hefty list, let's see who can get the most.

Bonus question: which BTCC driver from the Super Touring era once sent a video to Jeremy Beadle's Hot Shots posing as "Hard As Nails!"?

I'll be amazed if anyone gets this.

I'll just list all the ones I know, and a couple guesses too.

Gabriele Tarquini
Nigel Mansell
Derek Warwick
Jonathan Palmer
Martin Donnelly
Julian Bailey
Gianni Morbidelli
Johnny Herbert

Which makes 8.

Gabriele Tarquini
Nigel Mansell
Derek Warwick
Jonathan Palmer
Martin Donnelly
Julian Bailey
Gianni Morbidelli
Johnny Herbert
Christian Danner
Johnny Cecotto
Eric van der Poele

So, thread starter, how should this be scored, seeing as Tommy's come up with eight answers and Miguel's added three to the bottom of his list...

...which is still incomplete, and there's one I can't believe has been left off even at this stage.