F1RWRS -- 2014 Season

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:51

Warren Hughes wrote:
This wrote:If Acuri is allowed an entry... (you have 2 teams, remember)

I think he knows this very well by now, people keep reminding him at every turn!

Thank you. Just as a status update, I've narrowed it down to four choices. Two of which are rather silly, and one makes me look like a cheater.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:51

Warren Hughes wrote:
This wrote:If Acuri is allowed an entry... (you have 2 teams, remember)

I think he knows this very well by now, people keep reminding him at every turn!

The fact he hasn't snapped and killed us all for constantly bugging him about it is a minor miracle in itself :lol:

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:55

Isn't it Acuri and Arrowtech that need to either 'merge' or have one close down?

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:57

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Warren Hughes wrote:
This wrote:If Acuri is allowed an entry... (you have 2 teams, remember)

I think he knows this very well by now, people keep reminding him at every turn!

Thank you. Just as a status update, I've narrowed it down to four choices. Two of which are rather silly, and one makes me look like a cheater.

Is there a distinction between looking like a cheater and actually cheating? Answers on a postcard, care of a Mr Melrose, Penrith, New South Wales :lol:

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:15

Bosevic to Mitie?

Mitie's search for a new driver for 2015 took a new twist this evening, after Mr.Alexander announced his intention to sign Arrowtech driver Mirko Bosevic for next year. Speaking to MitieOnline.com today, Mr.Alexander said "We are impressed with his professional attitude and commitment, so would like to speak to Arrowtech soon about his services."
Meanwhile, DGNgineering have seemed to have cooled their interest in hotshot David Neuberg recently, and Mr.Alexander has finally announced his intention to keep the young German for another year. "He's been fantastic really. His agent has come forward to say David would like to move up the grid in the future, but would like to stay one more year. We are happy to meet those requests and a contract has been offered."

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:16

Wizzie wrote:The fact he hasn't snapped and killed us all for constantly bugging him about it is a minor miracle in itself

Oh, believe me the only reason he's not doing it is because of the hassle. Flying from Australia to Germany and the United Kingdom amongst other places just for murdering people really isn't worth it.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:41

Klon wrote:
Wizzie wrote:The fact he hasn't snapped and killed us all for constantly bugging him about it is a minor miracle in itself

Oh, believe me the only reason he's not doing it is because of the hassle. Flying from Australia to Germany and the United Kingdom amongst other places just for murdering people really isn't worth it.

If I were Sammy Jones in real life I think I might have flown over there and murdered him! :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Apr 2012, 00:01

If the Alasdair Lindsay alter-ego in this universe were real I think he would have dispatched Mafia hitmen to dispose of ALL of you by now :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 Apr 2012, 00:16

And if Kay Lon were real in this universe he would have survived because he's the Best In The World™ at what he does. :lol:

While we are talking about it: what position would Prospec need to finish in in order to get #27 - because I have an hilarious merchandise idea with that number.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Apr 2012, 00:18

Klon wrote:And if Kay Lon were real in this universe he would have survived because he's the Best In The World™ at what he does.

While we are talking about it: what position would Prospec need to finish in in order to get #27 - because I have an hilarious merchandise idea with that number.

If you tarnish the reputation of #27 with this idea, Scuderia Alitalia is going to send an entire squad of Mafia hitmen to make sure you can't do it again... :evil:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 Apr 2012, 00:19

kostas22 wrote:
Klon wrote:And if Kay Lon were real in this universe he would have survived because he's the Best In The World™ at what he does.

While we are talking about it: what position would Prospec need to finish in in order to get #27 - because I have an hilarious merchandise idea with that number.

If you tarnish the reputation of #27 with this idea, Scuderia Alitalia is going to send an entire squad of Mafia hitmen to make sure you can't do it again...

Tarnish? Pah, I'd reinvent the number and take it to heights (of unwarranted arrogance) never seen before. :twisted:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Apr 2012, 00:20

kostas22 wrote:
Klon wrote:And if Kay Lon were real in this universe he would have survived because he's the Best In The World™ at what he does.

While we are talking about it: what position would Prospec need to finish in in order to get #27 - because I have an hilarious merchandise idea with that number.

If you tarnish the reputation of #27 with this idea, Scuderia Alitalia is going to send an entire squad of Mafia hitmen to make sure you can't do it again...

And MRT will send that angry Glaswegian Mr Lindsay on you as well, Mr Lon :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 Apr 2012, 15:39

And now for something different...

www.sportschau.de wrote:Tropico staff to go on strike

According to their spokesman, the mechanics, accountants and cleaning personnel of Tropico Grand Prix powered by CR Motorsport will start a strike that will take place during the final Asian rounds. Whilst the accountants and cleaning personnel will completely cease to do any work, the mechanics will do just enough to ensure the cars do not become a danger to the other competitors.

When asked about the goals of said strike, the spokesman said that they want recently released Darren Older Jr. rehired along with a 0.75 % wage raise for all staff. El Presidente described the strike as "yet another American sabotage against the free republic of Tropico".

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 11 Apr 2012, 17:24

Klon wrote:
www.sportschau.de wrote:Tropico staff to go on strike

According to their spokesman, the mechanics, accountants and cleaning personnel of Tropico Grand Prix powered by CR Motorsport will start a strike that will take place during the final Asian rounds. Whilst the accountants and cleaning personnel will completely cease to do any work, the mechanics will do just enough to ensure the cars do not become a danger to the other competitors.

When asked about the goals of said strike, the spokesman said that they want recently released Darren Older Jr. rehired along with a 0.75 % wage raise for all staff. El Presidente described the strike as "yet another American sabotage against the free republic of Tropico".

Autosport wrote:American Racing Conglomerate Announces Tropico Bid

In a shock move, American Racing Conglomerate has offered to buy Tropico GP (including all assets and driver contracts) for an absurd amount of money. They are apparently being bankrolled by American corporations in an attempt to bring a new market, and thus, a new revenue stream to American business. Whether this is related to the recent Tropico strike or ARC's ambition is still unclear.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Apr 2012, 17:35

Alitalia seeking Older Jr Tropico deal

In a shock move, Scuderia Alitalia have indicated they will release Darren Older Jr to former team Tropico, but only if they can somehow persuade DGN junior driver Mestolio to move to the team for the remainder of the season.

The revelation asks yet more questions about the ARC involvement with Tropico, with few, if anyone, having a clue quite what is going on.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 11 Apr 2012, 20:53

It's just that Mignolet would like to know his recent future, and not be involved in false promises of unexisting teams. False promises from existing teams are welcome, however

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 11 Apr 2012, 22:27

This wrote:It's just that Mignolet would like to know his recent future, and not be involved in false promises of unexisting teams. False promises from existing teams are welcome, however

So, what do you have to say to DGNgineering interest?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 11 Apr 2012, 22:55

Aerond wrote:
This wrote:It's just that Mignolet would like to know his recent future, and not be involved in false promises of unexisting teams. False promises from existing teams are welcome, however

So, what do you have to say to DGNgineering interest?

You realise you're going to hire the most overrated driver ever? He's absolutely interested though!

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 11 Apr 2012, 23:26

kostas22 wrote:
Alitalia seeking Older Jr Tropico deal

In a shock move, Scuderia Alitalia have indicated they will release Darren Older Jr to former team Tropico, but only if they can somehow persuade DGN junior driver Mestolio to move to the team for the remainder of the season.

The revelation asks yet more questions about the ARC involvement with Tropico, with few, if anyone, having a clue quite what is going on.

ARC is trying to buy Tropico so that they can be eligible in the pre-qualifying cup. There is nothing in the regulations stating that a team can't change chassis in the middle of the year... In fact, ARC is planning to sell back Tropico to El Presidente for 2015. However, ARC is still planning on operating Tropico for the rest of the season with ARC's current chassis (and Jesus Plaza) while the ARC team will take the Tropico chassis and Leonhard von Gottorp. Tropico management just has to agree with the chassis and driver swap. (To Wizzie, you might owe me a case of beer in the future.)

To kostas22, Mestolio's contract is up at the end of the season and it is up to him whether he wants to leave ARC. However, I refuse to let him leave now.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 11 Apr 2012, 23:32

tristan1117 wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Alitalia seeking Older Jr Tropico deal

In a shock move, Scuderia Alitalia have indicated they will release Darren Older Jr to former team Tropico, but only if they can somehow persuade DGN junior driver Mestolio to move to the team for the remainder of the season.

The revelation asks yet more questions about the ARC involvement with Tropico, with few, if anyone, having a clue quite what is going on.

ARC is trying to buy Tropico so that they can be eligible in the pre-qualifying cup. There is nothing in the regulations stating that a team can't change chassis in the middle of the year... In fact, ARC is planning to sell back Tropico to El Presidente for 2015. However, ARC is still planning on operating Tropico for the rest of the season with ARC's current chassis (and Jesus Plaza) while the ARC team will take the Tropico chassis and Leonhard von Gottorp. Tropico management just has to agree with the chassis and driver swap. (To Wizzie, you might owe me a case of beer in the future.)

To kostas22, Mestolio's contract is up at the end of the season and it is up to him whether he wants to leave ARC. However, I refuse to let him leave now.

Hmmm... I knew I left something out of those. Aerond has said (a lot) that once a team has a chassis it can't be changed till the next season. And this is arguably a much worse thing than what Wizzie did.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Apr 2012, 23:33

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:
ARC is trying to buy Tropico so that they can be eligible in the pre-qualifying cup. There is nothing in the regulations stating that a team can't change chassis in the middle of the year... In fact, ARC is planning to sell back Tropico to El Presidente for 2015. However, ARC is still planning on operating Tropico for the rest of the season with ARC's current chassis (and Jesus Plaza) while the ARC team will take the Tropico chassis and Leonhard von Gottorp. Tropico management just has to agree with the chassis and driver swap. (To Wizzie, you might owe me a case of beer in the future.)

To kostas22, Mestolio's contract is up at the end of the season and it is up to him whether he wants to leave ARC. However, I refuse to let him leave now.

Hmmm... I knew I left something out of those. Aerond has said (a lot) that once a team has a chassis it can't be changed till the next season. And this is arguably a much worse thing than what Wizzie did.

There's a difference between exploiting a loophole and blatantly breaking the rules, Mr Davies :lol:

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 12 Apr 2012, 05:58

tristan1117 wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Alitalia seeking Older Jr Tropico deal

In a shock move, Scuderia Alitalia have indicated they will release Darren Older Jr to former team Tropico, but only if they can somehow persuade DGN junior driver Mestolio to move to the team for the remainder of the season.

The revelation asks yet more questions about the ARC involvement with Tropico, with few, if anyone, having a clue quite what is going on.

ARC is trying to buy Tropico so that they can be eligible in the pre-qualifying cup. There is nothing in the regulations stating that a team can't change chassis in the middle of the year... In fact, ARC is planning to sell back Tropico to El Presidente for 2015. However, ARC is still planning on operating Tropico for the rest of the season with ARC's current chassis (and Jesus Plaza) while the ARC team will take the Tropico chassis and Leonhard von Gottorp. Tropico management just has to agree with the chassis and driver swap. (To Wizzie, you might owe me a case of beer in the future.)

To kostas22, Mestolio's contract is up at the end of the season and it is up to him whether he wants to leave ARC. However, I refuse to let him leave now.

I'm afraid you can't do that. Simply because as TMLW said, I've written here a lot of times that any team can only change their chassis and or engine at the end of the season, and straight swaps aren't allowed anyway by our market rules. You thought you may found a loophole, but you didn´t.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 12 Apr 2012, 14:36

Accounting updates after the 12th GP of the season. As I forgot to do this before I´ll give a few extra days for people to call in for updates before we start the North Sea GP. Only shown teams with any credits left.

Acuri: 80
ARC: 80
DGNgineering: 80
GRM: 30
HRT: 80
Mecha: 140
Mitie: 230
Phoenix: 80
Prospec: 160
Shonan: 180
Tropico: 400
Trueba: 220

DGNgineering to spend 80 credits on reliability

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 12 Apr 2012, 14:38

Add 4hp and 50 reliabilty points to the FM-14.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 12 Apr 2012, 14:58

Aerond wrote:I'm afraid you can't do that. Simply because as TMLW said, I've written here a lot of times that any team can only change their chassis and or engine at the end of the season, and straight swaps aren't allowed anyway by our market rules. You thought you may found a loophole, but you didn´t.

Oh, in that case...

ARC Pulls Out of Tropico Deal
American Racing Conglomerate has decided to not pursue a hostile takeover of Tropico GP after a clarification of the rules. They hope that Tropico will not bring litigation against ARC for any activities in the past.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 12 Apr 2012, 15:29

Jesus 400 credits for Tropico! :shock:

And 230 even for Mitie! I presume you chaps are saving them up for a new chassis and/or engine for next year?

Interesting that I believe the cap set in place for pay-driver credits for 2015 is 400, so Tropico have only reached that level now having run two all year. It shouldn't hamper teams trying that strategy too much in that case, which is good news for teams at the back fearing they have no hope.

Little bit concerned for Shonan though - only a bit faster than Tropico but with less than half the credits currently. They could find themselves leapfrogged if they're not careful.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Apr 2012, 15:38

AndreaModa wrote:Jesus 400 credits for Tropico! And 230 even for Mitie! I presume you chaps are saving them up for a new chassis and/or engine for next year?

Interesting that I believe the cap set in place for pay-driver credits for 2015 is 400, so Tropico have only reached that level now having run two all year. It shouldn't hamper teams trying that strategy too much in that case, which is good news for teams at the back fearing they have no hope.

Little bit concerned for Shonan though - only a bit faster than Tropico but with less than half the credits currently. They could find themselves leapfrogged if they're not careful.

Trueba not far behind on 220 either. Perhaps we'll do well next season. With Ben Fleet's pay driver credits next season we should have both a new chassis and engine in time for Slovakian wunderkid Anrdrej Kremnicky stepping up to F1RWRS

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 12 Apr 2012, 15:52

I was wrong about the pay-driver credit cap - it's 350 credits not 400, but still generous.

CJR will just have to get some good results in during 2015 then before you come and dick all over everyone with that bloody Kremnicky in 2016!!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 12 Apr 2012, 16:37

AndreaModa wrote:Little bit concerned for Shonan though - only a bit faster than Tropico but with less than half the credits currently. They could find themselves leapfrogged if they're not careful.

1 - Can't just dump Albertini
2 - I don't want two paydrivers, I consider that unfair
3 - My team is easily ROTY

Leapfrogged? This team will be here for another year at least at the back.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 12 Apr 2012, 17:16

Fair enough, ultimately you run the team, though it's a shame to see it at the back, and Shizuka without a drive.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 12 Apr 2012, 17:39

Shizuka, I don't think Shonan will be ROTY, partly because you want it too much. I think it'll more likely be HRT or someone like that.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 12 Apr 2012, 18:06

Yeah, but that's the only way I could afford a new chassis and engine, becuase both are useless currently.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 12 Apr 2012, 18:18

Meh, I think you´ll get money enough to afford something through the TV money.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 12 Apr 2012, 18:39

Shizuka wrote:Yeah, but that's the only way I could afford a new chassis and engine, becuase both are useless currently.

You didn't have 1000 credits to start the year off did you? Because your current setup is only worth 600 in total, so 300 if you sold it back. Even of the available chassis and engines there you could have something so so much better e.g. Rial ARC-02 chassis for 300cr. and Ford HB IV engine for 525cr. coming in at 825 in total.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Apr 2012, 19:20

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with my saved credits yet. Either purchase a new engine/chassis or blitz the lot next year on engine upgrades and qualifying performances. But at least I'll have a healthy amount of credits to do whatever I want anyway. I'm expecting to have around 700 credits after TV revenue, pre-q cup and prize money comes in too.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 12 Apr 2012, 19:24

AndreaModa wrote:Jesus 400 credits for Tropico! And 230 even for Mitie! I presume you chaps are saving them up for a new chassis and/or engine for next year?

Do you understand now why I was trying so hard to have that pay driver cap not until next season? :lol:

But this is good, unless something out of the ordinary happens (i.e. I leave pre-qualifying), Tropico will reach the budget cap after chassis and engine are sold. I know this is risky, but I will predict Tropico to leave Pre-Qualifying at least one time next year.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Apr 2012, 20:12

Klon wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Jesus 400 credits for Tropico! And 230 even for Mitie! I presume you chaps are saving them up for a new chassis and/or engine for next year?

Do you understand now why I was trying so hard to have that pay driver cap not until next season?

But this is good, unless something out of the ordinary happens (i.e. I leave pre-qualifying), Tropico will reach the budget cap after chassis and engine are sold. I know this is risky, but I will predict Tropico to leave Pre-Qualifying at least one time next year.

I'll also predict Mitie to qualify at least half a dozen times next year. With about 700 credits by season start, I'll have more than enough to get a better engine or chassis. Plus, I'm guessing Neuberg has pretty good stats for a pay-driver, so I'll probably keep him in one of the seats for extra credits to upgrade the car throughout the year.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 12 Apr 2012, 20:22

Acuri will save the 80 credits for next season.

And just to clarify, ArrowTech will enter the Nurburgring race, not Indianapolis. Messed up the entry :oops:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 13 Apr 2012, 07:20

AndreaModa wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Yeah, but that's the only way I could afford a new chassis and engine, becuase both are useless currently.

You didn't have 1000 credits to start the year off did you? Because your current setup is only worth 600 in total, so 300 if you sold it back. Even of the available chassis and engines there you could have something so so much better e.g. Rial ARC-02 chassis for 300cr. and Ford HB IV engine for 525cr. coming in at 825 in total.

I think I had a thousand, but due to my awfully bad luck (i.e. if I had stayed online for an extra few minutes, I would have seen Aerond's post with the list of chassis and engines... try to beat that :lol:

), I had to buy a crap chassis, on which I spent all the credits to make it reliable.
Well, I paid the price for that, so we'll see what can I do next year, I predict nothing more.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 13 Apr 2012, 08:27

Shizuka wrote:
I think I had a thousand, but due to my awfully bad luck (i.e. if I had stayed online for an extra few minutes, I would have seen Aerond's post with the list of chassis and engines... try to beat that ), I had to buy a crap chassis, on which I spent all the credits to make it reliable.
Well, I paid the price for that, so we'll see what can I do next year, I predict nothing more.

and whose fault is to have chosen that engine with plenty of credits to spend, and then blow much of your credits on reliability without knowing if the car would qualify first? That´s what I call Reject Management, just as good as Rial, Onyx, etc, had.