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Posted: **22 May 2013, 21:31**

HonoraryNortherner wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
HonoraryNortherner wrote:OK, my turn! 'Back to F1 on this.

At which race did drivers compete to post the slowest time in qualifying?

Presumably this is before the system of 'fastest driver in qualifying is on pole' really caught on, so I'd guess in the pre-war era. Can't be more specific than that though.

Nope, it happened at World Championship event.

I'll give a clue. I did not say they obtained the pole with the slowest time.

Wasn't this in 2004, when there was effectively two qualifying sessions? The running order for the first session was determined by positions from the previous race, but for the second outing it was a reversed order of the first session. Obviously, cars starting the second session first had a greater chance of getting a good time in unstable weather.

I think it was in Belgium where the drivers deliberatedly slowed down before the finish line, producing times of well over two minutes in dry weather.

Posted: **22 May 2013, 21:35**

Nuppiz wrote:
HonoraryNortherner wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Presumably this is before the system of 'fastest driver in qualifying is on pole' really caught on, so I'd guess in the pre-war era. Can't be more specific than that though.

Nope, it happened at World Championship event.

I'll give a clue. I did not say they obtained the pole with the slowest time.

Wasn't this in 2004, when there was effectively two qualifying sessions? The running order for the first session was determined by positions from the previous race, but for the second outing it was a reversed order of the first session. Obviously, cars starting the second session first had a greater chance of getting a good time in unstable weather.

I think it was in Belgium where the drivers deliberatedly slowed down before the finish line, producing times of well over two minutes in dry weather.

You're so very close!

But it wasn't Belgium.

Posted: **22 May 2013, 21:50**

Silverstone!

Posted: **22 May 2013, 22:25**

midgrid wrote:Silverstone!

Yes! It back when they ran 1 lap qualifying, and had a pre-qualifying session to decide the order of the qualifying session proper; the results of the 1st session were inverted so the fastest runner in Q1 ran last in Q2, with what was supposed to be the best track conditions. In 2004 the pre-qualifying session was moved to immediately before the 2nd qualifying with a very short break in between. The forecast was for rain to occur around the time of the late/final runs in the 2nd session, so teams wanted to do badly in Q1 to get an early Q2 slot. After various time generating escapades, Williams and McLaren resorted to almost coming to a full stop before the start finish line to add as much time to their times.

As most people who live in Silverstone village may tell you (my grandparents did), the Silverstone circuit seems to have it's own micro-climate for some reason which I can't explain (I'm not meteorologist but it may have something to do with lots of trees before a large wide flat area I guess). We were sat at Luffield at you could see the weather front move in to the edge of the circuit and just sit there and not move through out qualifying. I've experienced this phenomena at Silverstone since then.

It didn't rain at the circuit at all that day! So the comical session was for nothing!

Posted: **31 May 2013, 10:20**

Guess the driver:

Posted: **31 May 2013, 10:22**

Patrese?

Posted: **31 May 2013, 10:23**

CoopsII wrote:Patrese?

Nope.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 10:32**

Jocke1 wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Patrese?
Nope.

Didnt think so.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 10:42**

Marc Gene

Posted: **31 May 2013, 10:45**

CoopsII wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Patrese?
Nope.

Didnt think so.

It's very difficult to provide a clue without it being too obvious.

But here is one:
This driver crashed with Albers once.

WaffleCat wrote:Marc Gene

No.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:32**

Doornbos?

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:35**

Montoya? Montiero?

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:40**

No & no.
Bare in mind, I haven't said in what situation he crashed with Albers.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:49**

Michael Schumacher then.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:52**

Jocke1 wrote:Bare in mind, I haven't said in what situation he crashed with Albers.

Hmm. Can we at least assume by 'crashed' you mean some sort of automotive vehicle accident rather simply sharing a room for the night with someone?

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:53**

WaffleCat wrote:Michael Schumacher then.

No

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:56**

Pedro de la Rosa?

Posted: **31 May 2013, 11:57**

CoopsII wrote: by 'crashed' you mean some sort of automotive vehicle accident

this.

And yes, both cars were damaged.

JeremyMcClean wrote:Pedro de la Rosa?

No

Posted: **31 May 2013, 12:07**

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Reminds me of Hank Azaria a little.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 15:07**

If you won't give any more hints, then I'm guessing that this driver did not collide with Albers in Formula 1, but rather in another series. Maybe in DTM?

Posted: **31 May 2013, 20:20**

tommykl wrote:If you won't give any more hints, then I'm guessing that this driver did not collide with Albers in Formula 1, but rather in another series. Maybe in DTM?

It was in Formula 1. During testing.

Posted: **31 May 2013, 21:50**

Jocke1 wrote:
tommykl wrote:If you won't give any more hints, then I'm guessing that this driver did not collide with Albers in Formula 1, but rather in another series. Maybe in DTM?

It was in Formula 1. During testing.

It's our friend Chanoch Nissany. Not only did he crash into Albers, but they were both on the same team (Minardi).

Posted: **31 May 2013, 22:51**

Backmarker wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
tommykl wrote:If you won't give any more hints, then I'm guessing that this driver did not collide with Albers in Formula 1, but rather in another series. Maybe in DTM?

It was in Formula 1. During testing.

It's our friend Chanoch Nissany. Not only did he crash into Albers, but they were both on the same team (Minardi).

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/8444 ... to-albers/
Nissany crashes into Albers

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:09**

...I was going to say Aguri Suzuki, the least Japanese-looking Japanese driver there's ever been...

Keep these coming!

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:19**

Which team tried to purposely blow up the F1 engines supplied to them by a major car manufacture. And why?

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:23**

ibsey wrote:Which team tried to purposely blow up the F1 engines supplied to them by a major car manufacture. And why?

Arrows 2002?

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:29**

dinizintheoven wrote:Keep these coming!

Alright. Here's one, too easy?
F1 driver.

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:35**

Heidfeld surely?

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:41**

Jocke1 wrote:
ibsey wrote:Which team tried to purposely blow up the F1 engines supplied to them by a major car manufacture. And why?

Arrows 2002?

Not them I'm afraid.

Posted: **01 Jun 2013, 19:42**

AndreaModa wrote:Heidfeld surely?

You got it.

Posted: **04 Jun 2013, 08:43**

ibsey wrote:Which team tried to purposely blow up the F1 engines supplied to them by a major car manufacture. And why?

Prost Peugeot 2000??

Posted: **04 Jun 2013, 10:18**

David AGS wrote:
ibsey wrote:Which team tried to purposely blow up the F1 engines supplied to them by a major car manufacture. And why?

Prost Peugeot 2000??

Not them either i'm afraid. Clue: it was during the turbo days.

Posted: **04 Jun 2013, 11:42**

ibsey wrote:
David AGS wrote:
ibsey wrote:Which team tried to purposely blow up the F1 engines supplied to them by a major car manufacture. And why?

Prost Peugeot 2000??

Not them either i'm afraid. Clue: it was during the turbo days.

Was it Brabham during 1982, when Brabham were trying to get out of their contract, and BMW were insisting they use their engine?

Posted: **04 Jun 2013, 15:18**

Backmarker wrote:Was it Brabham during 1982, when Brabham were trying to get out of their contract, and BMW were insisting they use their engine?

It was indeed. Well done.

It’s a great story from Autosport's 1982 special edition magazine back in August last year; about the Brabham team, purposely trying to blow up their BMW engines when testing them in mid 1982. Simply because they wanted to show BMW, the engines were too unreliable. So Brabham could get out of having to run them for race weekends.

Unfortunately for Brabham, despite their best efforts, IIRC they couldn't blow up enough BMW engines to justify to the German manufacture not to run them for the latter part of 1982. :lol:

Posted: **04 Jun 2013, 17:27**

ibsey wrote:
Backmarker wrote:Was it Brabham during 1982, when Brabham were trying to get out of their contract, and BMW were insisting they use their engine?

It was indeed. Well done.

It’s a great story from Autosport's 1982 special edition magazine back in August last year; about the Brabham team, purposely trying to blow up their BMW engines when testing them in mid 1982. Simply because they wanted to show BMW, the engines were too unreliable. So Brabham could get out of having to run them for race weekends.

Unfortunately for Brabham, despite their best efforts, IIRC they couldn't blow up enough BMW engines to justify to the German manufacture not to run them for the latter part of 1982.

The relationship worked out well for Brabham in the end though!

Posted: **08 Jun 2013, 01:19**

Guess the driver.
Too easy?

Posted: **08 Jun 2013, 04:15**

Jenson Button?

Posted: **08 Jun 2013, 09:01**

tommykl wrote:Jenson Button?

No, it's not Bunson Jetton.

Posted: **08 Jun 2013, 16:56**

Looks like a girl to me. Would that be Maria de Villota before her accident?

Posted: **08 Jun 2013, 18:04**

I'm positive that's Alonso. I don't know any other driver that uses Schuberth helmets anyway.

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