F1RWRS -- 2014 Season

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 20 Apr 2012, 05:10

This wrote:Now where in the hell did Van Dycke's pace suddenly come from?

I tweaked his car overnight

But seriously, not bad, despite not making any improvement on the car whatsoever. The engine might be good, so I think that will stay, but the chassis has to go.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 20 Apr 2012, 05:32

Aerond, having looked back on the chassis and engine list for this year and seeing what teams did what, I've got a few questions to ask:

1. Why is the Jordan chassis so bathplugging expensive when it's not even the best one on the market?
2. In theory, ArrowTech have a slightly superior engine to the likes of Jones Racing but with a slightly inferior chassis. The reliability numbers of ArrowTech are also comparable to Jones, Kahama and Sunshine. Why the hell then are ArrowTech so far behind them in the standings?
3. Exactly how does the Speed Inc thing on the chassis market work and how much does it affect engine output? (I heard numbers like 40bhp either way being thrown around but a more clear-cut explanation might help out the likes of Shizuka who couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery if their life depended on it :lol:

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Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 Apr 2012, 13:40

Wizzie wrote:2. In theory, ArrowTech have a slightly superior engine to the likes of Jones Racing but with a slightly inferior chassis. The reliability numbers of ArrowTech are also comparable to Jones, Kahama and Sunshine. Why the hell then are ArrowTech so far behind them in the standings?

I can answer that one - reliability comes, in the end, down to sheer dumb luck. Arrowtech's luck just hasn't been favourable yet, their team is pretty much one giant Kay Lon as far as this topic goes. Furthermore, they have slightly weaker drivers how are likely - especially Bosevic - to have higher Random Grip Range than Sunshine's or Jones' drivers.

Edit: have you taken updates into consideration as far as your statement goes? Sunshine and Jones had reliability upgrades. Did Arrowtech had those as well?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 Apr 2012, 14:26

Firstly, sorry for the double post.

Secondly, since I am very sure that I have missed a team entering, the entry list for Luxembourg is closed now. Please check the entry list and if you have registered yourself for the GP and are not on the list, please show me where your post is. Thank you.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 20 Apr 2012, 15:10

Klon wrote:Since I am very sure that I have missed a team entering, the entry list for Luxembourg is closed now. Please check the entry list and if you have registered yourself for the GP and are not on the list, please show me where your post is. Thank you.

Could you provide a direct link to the entry list so it can be checked please? Thank you. :mrgreen:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 Apr 2012, 15:55

dr-baker wrote:Could you provide a direct link to the entry list so it can be checked please? Thank you.

viewtopic.php?p=142669#p142669

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 20 Apr 2012, 17:57

Qualifying about to begin;

Race inmediately afterwards with live commentary here: http://zippychat.com/room/18394

I´m already in the chat room to comment qualifying results as soon as they come out.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 20 Apr 2012, 20:36

Klon wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Could you provide a direct link to the entry list so it can be checked please? Thank you.

http://f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 69#p142669

The Foxdale entry at least looks correct.

EDIT: Ooops, forgot to thank you, Klon.

And as regards the qualifying results, Ben Fleet was surprised not to be in the top 3, Douglas expected to be about 8th, and Pippa Mann was shocked and horrified to find herself down in 20th!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 20 Apr 2012, 20:51

I'm starting to reconsider my decision to hire Ben Fleet...that was a truly shocking performance today, he was getting mugged by everyone.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 20 Apr 2012, 20:56

kostas22 wrote:I'm starting to reconsider my decision to hire Ben Fleet...that was a truly shocking performance today, he was getting mugged by everyone.

One swallow does not make a summer... And the contract has already been signed. Compensation is due if you let him go between now and the end of the 2015 season (excluding non-championship races!).

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 Apr 2012, 21:13

Klon wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Could you provide a direct link to the entry list so it can be checked please? Thank you.

viewtopic.php?p=142669#p142669

The Fox wrote:In regards to this,

ArrowTech ART
#26 Mirko Bosevic/Nathanael Spencer
#27 Daniel Martins/Rosco Vantini

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 20 Apr 2012, 21:23

dr-baker wrote:
kostas22 wrote:I'm starting to reconsider my decision to hire Ben Fleet...that was a truly shocking performance today, he was getting mugged by everyone.

One swallow does not make a summer... And the contract has already been signed. Compensation is due if you let him go between now and the end of the 2015 season (excluding non-championship races!).

Nope...his contract may have been signed, but it does not take effect until his contract with DGNgineering expires. I can still change my mind before the end of this season

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 20 Apr 2012, 23:31

Klon wrote:
Wizzie wrote:2. In theory, ArrowTech have a slightly superior engine to the likes of Jones Racing but with a slightly inferior chassis. The reliability numbers of ArrowTech are also comparable to Jones, Kahama and Sunshine. Why the hell then are ArrowTech so far behind them in the standings?

I can answer that one - reliability comes, in the end, down to sheer dumb luck. Arrowtech's luck just hasn't been favourable yet, their team is pretty much one giant Kay Lon as far as this topic goes. Furthermore, they have slightly weaker drivers how are likely - especially Bosevic - to have higher Random Grip Range than Sunshine's or Jones' drivers.

Edit: have you taken updates into consideration as far as your statement goes? Sunshine and Jones had reliability upgrades. Did Arrowtech had those as well?

I haven't take updates into account simply because I can't be bothered to check them all.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 20 Apr 2012, 23:57

Since I slept in and missed the race yet again, can someone update me on when the MRTs inevitably blew up in the race?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 Apr 2012, 23:58

Spencer retired in lap 6 (I think), only a few seconds before Mark Dagnall retired. Nicolas won the race in front of Mori and Lon - that must have been the coldest podium ceremony of the year. :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Apr 2012, 00:03

Klon wrote:Spencer retired in lap 6 (I think), only a few seconds before Mark Dagnall retired. Nicolas won the race in front of Mori and Lon - that must have been the coldest podium ceremony of the year.

So that means Spencer's still in championship contention by the skin of his teeth and Nicolas is only 8 points behind Dagnall with three races to go... Matthias, your seat will have to wait.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Apr 2012, 01:25

Wizzie wrote:
Klon wrote:Spencer retired in lap 6 (I think), only a few seconds before Mark Dagnall retired. Nicolas won the race in front of Mori and Lon - that must have been the coldest podium ceremony of the year.

So that means Spencer's still in championship contention by the skin of his teeth and Nicolas is only 8 points behind Dagnall with three races to go... Matthias, your seat will have to wait.

Also, Daniel Melrose finished second last. Suck on that. :lol:

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Apr 2012, 01:32

Dare I ask, how did HRT/GRM do? No, wait, let me rephrase that. When did HRT/GRM retire?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:08

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Dare I ask, how did HRT/GRM do? No, wait, let me rephrase that. When did HRT/GRM retire?

From what I remember (which is only scattered bits of info), Davies was 4th and O'Lauchlan 6th. I THINK. But I might be wrong. What I am certain of however is that Whitechapel retired and Zimmer finished dead last :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:10

kostas22 wrote:From what I remember (which is only scattered bits of info), Davies was 4th and O'Lauchlan 6th. I THINK. But I might be wrong. What I am certain of however is that Whitechapel retired and Zimmer finished dead last

I think they both kicked the bucked from their positions shortly before the end of the race, since I know that Jones finished fourth.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:13

Klon wrote:
kostas22 wrote:From what I remember (which is only scattered bits of info), Davies was 4th and O'Lauchlan 6th. I THINK. But I might be wrong. What I am certain of however is that Whitechapel retired and Zimmer finished dead last

I think they both kicked the bucked from their positions shortly before the end of the race, since I know that Jones finished fourth.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Oh well. And how many people did Zimmer hit this time? :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:18

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Oh well. And how many people did Zimmer hit this time?

None, he was ridiculously anonymous.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:22

Klon wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Oh well. And how many people did Zimmer hit this time?

None, he was ridiculously anonymous.

Ah, so this was the "I can't be bothered" Zimmer from 2012 then. Could be worse, at least he finished

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:34

kostas22 wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Klon wrote:Spencer retired in lap 6 (I think), only a few seconds before Mark Dagnall retired. Nicolas won the race in front of Mori and Lon - that must have been the coldest podium ceremony of the year.

So that means Spencer's still in championship contention by the skin of his teeth and Nicolas is only 8 points behind Dagnall with three races to go... Matthias, your seat will have to wait.

Also, Daniel Melrose finished second last. Suck on that.

Explains why he turned into Kurt Busch over the radio for virtually the entire race then. At least I finished ahead of that muppet Zimmer :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:39

Wizzie wrote:Explains why he turned into Kurt Busch over the radio for virtually the entire race then. At least I finished ahead of that muppet Zimmer

The guy who got lapped by his team mate really shouldn't be calling other people muppets.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:45

Klon wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Explains why he turned into Kurt Busch over the radio for virtually the entire race then. At least I finished ahead of that muppet Zimmer

The guy who got lapped by his team mate really shouldn't be calling other people muppets.

Especially when the sanity of "that muppet" is questionable :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:51

Klon wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Explains why he turned into Kurt Busch over the radio for virtually the entire race then. At least I finished ahead of that muppet Zimmer

The guy who got lapped by his team mate really shouldn't be calling other people muppets.

Not that I care because I've been spending the best part of the last decade taking his behind to the cleaners and back :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Apr 2012, 02:57

Wizzie wrote:Not that I care because I've been spending the best part of the last decade taking his behind to the cleaners and back

Well, then you will care about that: Kay Lon obviously lapped you too. :mrgreen:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 21 Apr 2012, 09:20

When are the entries for F1RWRS next year going to be confirmed?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Apr 2012, 10:13

eurobrun wrote:When are the entries for F1RWRS next year going to be confirmed?

There's one confirmed spot remaining with HRT and GRM merging. The provisional list is here. A 2nd slot may open up depending on what happens in the land up North.

EDIT: Turns out slot 20's taken up the successor team of Sunshine Infiniti but DanielPT's yet to confirm anything for next year. Chances are you might be able to get your hands on Acuri if you're willing to negotiate with Mr McClean.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 21 Apr 2012, 10:32

Hydook 'ready and waiting' to join F1RWRS grid
It is no secret that Hydook wants to run its own Formula 1 team as soon as possible depending on the opportunities available and the money that will be needed. Anton Bosevic, the managing-director of the team, confirmed the plans this week in Autosport magazine, saying that Hydook might enter F1 next year or in 2016.
"We're ready and waiting", Bosevic told RWRS Insider.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 21 Apr 2012, 11:00

Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:When are the entries for F1RWRS next year going to be confirmed?

There's one confirmed spot remaining with HRT and GRM merging. The provisional list is [url=<a href="http://f1alternate.wikkii.com/wiki/2015_Formula_1_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season">http://f1alternate.wikkii.com/wiki/2015_Formula_1_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season</a>]here[/url]. A 2nd slot may open up depending on what happens in the land up North.

EDIT: Turns out slot 20's taken up the successor team of Sunshine Infiniti but DanielPT's yet to confirm anything for next year. Chances are you might be able to get your hands on Acuri if you're willing to negotiate with Mr McClean.

I would be willing to negotiate on buying Acuri

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Apr 2012, 11:06

Pointrox wrote:
Hydook 'ready and waiting' to join F1RWRS grid
It is no secret that Hydook wants to run its own Formula 1 team as soon as possible depending on the opportunities available and the money that will be needed. Anton Bosevic, the managing-director of the team, confirmed the plans this week in Autosport magazine, saying that Hydook might enter F1 next year or in 2016.
"We're ready and waiting", Bosevic told RWRS Insider.

There's no way you're getting a spot for 2015 but 2016 is a possibility. For further information, please send your queries to a Mr D. Prieto in F1RWRS HQ in Madrid.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Apr 2012, 11:09

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:When are the entries for F1RWRS next year going to be confirmed?

There's one confirmed spot remaining with HRT and GRM merging. The provisional list is [url=<a href="http://f1alternate.wikkii.com/wiki/2015_Formula_1_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season">http://f1alternate.wikkii.com/wiki/2015_Formula_1_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season</a>]here[/url]. A 2nd slot may open up depending on what happens in the land up North.

EDIT: Turns out slot 20's taken up the successor team of Sunshine Infiniti but DanielPT's yet to confirm anything for next year. Chances are you might be able to get your hands on Acuri if you're willing to negotiate with Mr McClean.

I would be willing to negotiate on buying Acuri

You probably won't get it since Jeremy would have to mad to take ArrowTech :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 21 Apr 2012, 11:15

Correction: I would be willing to negotiate on buying whichever team JeremyMcclean is going to sell.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 21 Apr 2012, 15:43

Race results up on Page 72

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Apr 2012, 16:34

As long as the number of teams doesn't go above 20, I am in favour of Hydook taking a place on the grid.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Apr 2012, 16:46

The Fox wrote:Fantastic race for the team. Three points is a great thing, especially for Daniel who hasn't scored in a while. Also a good race from Mirko. Good to see ArrowTech back in the points.

Andrea Acuri, after qualifying wrote:Incomprehensible tirade in Italian

Nicolas Steele wrote:Bollocks. At least Mori had a great race, great job to him.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 21 Apr 2012, 16:52

Aerond wrote:F1RWRS 2014 - ROUND 13/16 - NORTH SEA GP - Zandvoort

RACE

On the negative side there´s loads of drivers who seemed to compete for being the slowest teammate, Ben Fleet,... and Pippa Mann did everything to go completely unnoticed. Ben Fleet squeezed from 5th on grid, to a distant 7th in the end after having been passed by both Phoenix, and Pippa Mann, who did the most anonymous race of the weekend.

Mann retiring

Ben Fleet wrote:I don't care if I was slow compared to my teammate. I finally made it to the end of a race! That was the aim of today's race, and I did it! Goodness knows it doesn't happen very often, and I am happy on days like today when it does.

Pippa Mann wrote:You know what? I sacked Jack Christopherson for having races like mine today. At least Douglas was on for a decent finish today if his Foxdale had not broken down. And Ben Fleet was just one position away from a points finish himself. I may just decide to give this Martin McFry a drive before the end of the season if I continue like this...

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 21 Apr 2012, 19:03

Sammy Jones wrote:I'm really happy to have take yet more points here today with my third 4th place in a row, and closed the gap to Gillet in the constructors' championship to just the single point. We're a bit annoyed that Kamaha were able to score well with Mori's second place, but overall we're in a strong position as we head to the three flyaway races. The team hasn't had a retirement since Belgium now, the reliability we focused on in the off-season is really paying off, and we've maximised our chances by taking points in all of these recent races. Our top speed may be lacking, but we're getting our cars to the finish and that's what matters. I didn't quite have the pace to match the others with my two stopper, but nonetheless 4th place is great.

Don't talk to me about Melrose.