F1 Rejects Track Designing Competition

alg2159 · Post by **alg2159** » 05 Dec 2016, 21:32

Grundarfjörður : Iceland.
Population : 872
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6993232

watka · Post by **watka** » 05 Dec 2016, 21:32

Airfield track in Brookenby, Lincolnshire. Population 665. Nice mix of fast corners and technical corners hopefully! http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=699322

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 06 Dec 2016, 06:15

Agdenes, Sør-Trøndelag

Population: 1,719

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6993326

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 08 Dec 2016, 15:23

I wanted to do something close to home, so here's the Mona International Raceway

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 08 Dec 2016, 22:46

Haven't done one of these in a while (no ideas), but I've managed to think up a circuit for this challenge:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6994259

It is a fast airfield circuit based in the military town of Waiouru, New Zealand (Population: 890), constructed around its airfield (though it only uses it for the main straight and pitlane). It should be a very fast circuit, but with adequate run-off (it's surrounded by fields) and enough tight corners to keep drivers interested.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 15 Dec 2016, 23:35

It's been a week now...

The next round, just to remind, is the final round of the 2016 championship. Still eligible are:
dr-baker, 25
TheFlyingCaterham, 21/22 depending on whether Aislabie put the judging point in that list (could you say by the way because I'm too lazy to check)
Aislabie, 21
Simtek (if he returns, wins, then doesn't judge the next one), 20

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 16 Dec 2016, 09:11

Almost forgot i was the judge

1- alg2159
2- Aislabie
3- dr-baker
4- TheFlyingCaterham
5- tBone (According to some sources, Bern is a suburbia of the big town alongside it, but Nederhemert-Zuid it's an independent town, so that saved you of being DSQ)
6- This Could Be You
7- Normal32
Where's the track?- Watka

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 17 Dec 2016, 05:36

Well, that makes dr-baker the champion. Any complaints about the sudden implementation of a points system when people only cared about wins for most of the year, and any comparisons to 1939, should be brought up before the 21st. Or something. I just want to sound official.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 17 Dec 2016, 11:11

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Well, that makes dr-baker the champion. Any complaints about the sudden implementation of a points system when people only cared about wins for most of the year, and any comparisons to 1939, should be brought up before the 21st. Or something. I just want to sound official.

Yeah, like I'm going to complain about being made champion!

I do prefer the idea of a points system, as it means that if you are second or third, you still feel like there's some reward championship-wise.

watka · Post by **watka** » 17 Dec 2016, 19:33

For anyone interested, this was meant to be mine. I copied the link wrong: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6993229

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 18 Dec 2016, 01:54

dr-baker wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Well, that makes dr-baker the champion. Any complaints about the sudden implementation of a points system when people only cared about wins for most of the year, and any comparisons to 1939, should be brought up before the 21st. Or something. I just want to sound official.

Yeah, like I'm going to complain about being made champion! I do prefer the idea of a points system, as it means that if you are second or third, you still feel like there's some reward championship-wise.

Obviously that wasn't directed at you

But I doubt someone will rage over the town track design contest, especially when champions didn't even exist before. Not that I would see it as petty or something. You know.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 22 Dec 2016, 00:07

WERE IS BRIFING

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 24 Dec 2016, 12:16

Right, so the bad news is that I've found that Aislabie's count wasn't accurate, and TheFlyingCaterham still has a chance to win. Specifically, the points are dr-baker 27 and Caterham 25, with the latter to win any count-back. The good news is that I found this out because I redid the 2016 table on the wiki, so now you can look at it and it'll show points and be current. So unless alg2159 returns to the thread, this'll be a vote for the ages.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Dec 2016, 13:15

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Right, so the bad news is that I've found that Aislabie's count wasn't accurate, and TheFlyingCaterham still has a chance to win. Specifically, the points are dr-baker 27 and Caterham 25, with the latter to win any count-back. The good news is that I found this out because I redid the 2016 table on the wiki, so now you can look at it and it'll show points and be current. So unless alg2159 returns to the thread, this'll be a vote for the ages.

Oh well, I'm still in the lead...

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 24 Dec 2016, 18:56

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Right, so the bad news is that I've found that Aislabie's count wasn't accurate, and TheFlyingCaterham still has a chance to win.

I don't think I would call that bad news....

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Dec 2016, 21:31

TheFlyingCaterham wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Right, so the bad news is that I've found that Aislabie's count wasn't accurate, and TheFlyingCaterham still has a chance to win.

I don't think I would call that bad news....

Seems like that we are in agreement then!

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 25 Dec 2016, 01:35

I think it's been long enough now that I get to nominate the final challenge of the year. Which is a shame as I don't get to participate, but there you go.

I'm going with the Shanghai Challenge

Design a circuit roughly in the shape of a letter or symbol. Extra credit for those who make it a symbol relevant to the location of said circuit.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 25 Dec 2016, 01:57

Aislabie wrote:I think it's been long enough now that I get to nominate the final challenge of the year. Which is a shame as I don't get to participate, but there you go.

I'm going with the Shanghai Challenge

Design a circuit roughly in the shape of a letter or symbol. Extra credit for those who make it a symbol relevant to the location of said circuit.

Oh yeah, they didn't even make a challenge. Somehow that slipped my mind since I complained about it in all caps.

A track in Poland inspired by L with stroke, 4.19 km long: http://i.imgur.com/d6G5t8s.png

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 25 Dec 2016, 07:09

Made a circuit in New York, with guess what, the initials NY. I've tried to change the layout up a bit so it's not your standard 'straight, sharp corner, straight sharp corner' esque course that seems like it would be a common occurance when making a circuit based off of a letter. Hopefully you think I've done that well.

Also, to baker, good luck, and may the best design win

http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=576279

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 25 Dec 2016, 13:39

TheFlyingCaterham wrote:Made a circuit in New York, with guess what, the initials NY. I've tried to change the layout up a bit so it's not your standard 'straight, sharp corner, straight sharp corner' esque course that seems like it would be a common occurance when making a circuit based off of a letter. Hopefully you think I've done that well.

Also, to baker, good luck, and may the best design win

http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=576279

Indeed, although I won't mind coming a close second to you!

Here is my final attempt of the year, the letter pi in the Greek part of Cyprus, overlapping with the UK border, a country that likes its shepherd's pie, pork pie, steak and ale pie, chicken and mushroom pie,...

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 27 Dec 2016, 12:22

A circuit set in Heston, with the Zoso symbol: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6999988

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 31 Dec 2016, 22:50

In fourth place is Normal32 - it just seems too twisty for a sub-two mile circuit.

In third place is Dr Baker - although it looks very much like the symbol, it also reminds me of the Caesars Palace GP.

In second place is UgncreativeUsergname - I like how you've chosen a circuit that allows you corners with lots of different angles.

Which means that in first place is The Flying Caterham - it's a very long circuit, but without being too boring or repetitive. Additionally, you couldn't get a much more relevant symbol. Good work.

I've no idea what that does to the standings.

Happy New Year!

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 31 Dec 2016, 23:27

Aislabie wrote:I've no idea what that does to the standings.

Happy New Year!

I think it means that baker and I tie on 28 points each. I'm not sure how the countback system for this works, but I presume it is for most wins, which in that case means I take the championship with 7 wins to baker's 4. Pretty close finish in the end wasn't it.

And because I can and I don't think I'll get another proper opportunity to say it on here today, Happy New Year too.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 02 Jan 2017, 02:18

Indeed, TheFlyingCaterham wins on countback, with 28 points and 7 wins to 28 and 4. 7/31 is also a new record for the most wins per round in a season (not to be confused with wins per entry in a championship year).

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 02 Jan 2017, 12:14

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Indeed, TheFlyingCaterham wins on countback, with 28 points and 7 wins to 28 and 4. 7/31 is also a new record for the most wins per round in a season (not to be confused with wins per entry in a championship year).

So I am comparable to Juan Pablo Montoya in 2015 or Dario Franchitti in 1999!

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 04 Jan 2017, 16:46

To kick off 2017, I'd like to put on a film documentary about one of the forgotten greats of the Track Designing Competition. Relax and enjoy.

The Legend of johnnyCarwash
BEFORE F1RTDC
johnnyCarwash's first post on GP Rejects was in the Predicament Predictions thread for the 2013 Australian GP. Having already made a post, he* then introduced himself via the check in desk. He said he would mostly do Predictions and other things related to predicting and rating performances in individual races, which turned out to be true. For two months in 2013, he regularly posted in Predicament Predictions, IIDOTR, ROTR, and "F1 Rejects Forum Ratings", that thing where you posted a 1-10 rating for each driver for each race. He did make some posts simply sharing his opinions, normal forum posts basically, so that wasn't all he did, but it was most of it.
*I do not actually know johnnyCarwash's preferred pronoun.

F1RTDC
His only entry in the history of this contest was in the challenge by Bleu about making a road course for an existing oval. This is the track he put in.

When it came time for voting, there were six legal entries. Among the five voters that weren't him, four of them gave him first place, the other giving him second. He had won his debut round in a landslide. He duly posted a challenge, continuing to post in his regular threads as the entries came in. He turned out to not only be an excellent circuit designer, but one for challenges as well, his challenge attracting twelve entrants before the two days' gap. However, his vote for that challenge would be the last time he ever showed himself in this thread.

AFTER F1RTDC
He continued to post in the individual race threads, the individual race votes, his normal things. He also did other things, mostly but not exclusively the threads about other motorsports, the IndyCar thread and such. However, starting from Belgium, he became less involved, only posting in Predictions. He didn't even do that for Korea, but he did come to its ROTR thread. After several non-competition-related posts, all in the same week after Korea, he went back to just Predictions. However, he stopped doing even that after Abu Dhabi, his only post of the year after that being on December 30 in the thread about Schumacher's skiing accident.

He briefly resurfaced for the 2014 Australian Grand Prix, posting a Predicament Prediction, but he didn't do one for Malaysia. In fact, his very last post was on March 28 in the Ponderbox. His last visit is recorded as just seven minutes later. Maybe he saw the response to his final post, maybe he didn't. Either way, thus ends his story on this forum.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Jan 2017, 18:51

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:To kick off 2017, I'd like to put on a film documentary about one of the forgotten greats of the Track Designing Competition. Relax and enjoy.

Definitely not one of the F1RTDC rejects.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Jan 2017, 14:09

It's been long enough without a challenge. Literally, it's been long enough that I can set one. Besides, it's not unfitting that the Tsar makes the first one of the year.

Authentic American Street Circuit
The one thing that's discouraged in this competition more than anything else is multiple square corners in the same track. So today, I want you to do that, and make the next Detroit or Phoenix.

*Make a street circuit in the United States. The more urban, the better; I'm looking for that "between the skyscrapers" atmosphere.
*Length has to be 3-7 km.
*Find somewhere for the garages. I'm not asking for a Bahrain-esque luxury paddock, but be reasonable. Same with runoff areas/escape roads.
*I don't want something like the old Phoenix, but we know it's possible for square corners to be interesting. Think Phoenix, think Long Beach. Like I said, you're making the next that.
*As far as destroying things goes, you can use dual carriageways as one road if there aren't any trees or anything. You can use open spaces like parks and parking lots as long as you don't take anything down. Basically your typical "new roads are okay but don't destroy stuff" rule.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 10 Jan 2017, 15:12

The pits are in Central Park, but the start/finish line places just in front of the Trump Tower, try something more wacky

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7005952

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 10 Jan 2017, 19:36

Here's my first entry for 2017, the 5.28KM Diamond Heights (incorrectly named on image :facepalm:

) Street Circuit in San Francisco. You didn't want square corners, and this circuit only has two; the other 16 are most certainly not! The pit entry is built around an art school, meaning facilities should be decent, even if the pit entry may have to be widened (some grass may have to disappear). Also, as you would expect from San Francisco, the amount of elevation is ridiculous, so it will kill engines as well as suspension!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 10 Jan 2017, 21:28

Des Moines, Iowa:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7006174

The parking area just after the startline is used as a paddock.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 11 Jan 2017, 02:57

The circuit is 6.949km long.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 13 Jan 2017, 15:47

AdrianBelmonte_: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7005952
This Could Be You: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7006095
Bleu: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7006174
Normal32: https://i.gyazo.com/7c4644074660b016637 ... 539e23.png

4. AdrianBelmonte_
Pushes the "don't cut trees down" directive too much. Also the layout doesn't have the feel I asked for.

3. Normal32
The runoffs are there where they need to be, but I'm not sure about that pit lane. Layout-wise, the individual corners are decent enough, but everything seems a bit disconnected and the circuit as a whole doesn't really have character. And I can't picture 1980s F1 cars on it.

2. This Could Be You
There's enough room for basic garages and there are no obvious safety issues anywhere, so tick that box. You also have easily the best layout, it looks like a brilliant ride, but it doesn't follow the theme.

1. Bleu
There are a couple really long straights, which is either a "modern twist" like I'm talking about food or it's just a bit out of place. Either way, the track isn't any faster than Monza or something, so it isn't anything ridiculous. It does seem like it'd be decent to drive and produce interesting racing, and the safety and all checks out, so there isn't much to criticise there. As the only one who seemed to understand the briefing, you win by default, but it's a good circuit anyway.

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 13 Jan 2017, 16:31

I understand that- I only realised it was particularly residential and not urban enough (I assume that was the problem) when I noticed it was an art school. A pity, as I could have made a similar layout closer to the centre, with San Francisco's roads being so weird. Still, points on the board already!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 13 Jan 2017, 20:52

You must take one permanent racing facility and build circuit which uses at least start/finish straight and pit lane of that circuit. Then you must use the nearby existing roads to build a longer circuit, distance is between 10 and 15 kilometres. Only the two linking paths between existing circuit and nearby roads may be new.

edit: added bolded word

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 14 Jan 2017, 18:25

Imola: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7007935

watka · Post by **watka** » 14 Jan 2017, 19:37

I christen thee "Outerlagos" http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7007974

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 14 Jan 2017, 19:46

Here is my 10.988KM revised version of the Hockenheimring, which uses the surrounding roads to create a stupidly fast circuit that rivals the original version for engine-destroying straights.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 15 Jan 2017, 00:58

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7008120

I think i got it right

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 15 Jan 2017, 15:10

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=7008120

I think i got it right

It's about 1,5 km too short.