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Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 19:44
by RLeb
Warning, totally unrelated to F1, but I will answer with a long post because I am an equally passionate bowler
I am a league and tournament bowler in Candlepin. I much prefer it over 10-pin.
The scores are lower, you cannot annihilate all 10 pins with endless strikes most of the time. Strikes really feel good because they are pretty rare. And because you end up with standing pins most of the time, you must be good at getting spares (or 10's.. since we throw a third ball and it is simply scored as 10). Plus, in Candlepin, the pins are left on the deck between shots. That, coupled with the smaller/lighter balls and the fallen pins acting as deflectors, it is also a game of angles (much like pool). It is very challenging and really a game of brains.
You CANNOT do a perfect 300 game in Candlepin. It has never been done. The world record is 245 right now.
A pro average in 10-pin is in the 220-240 range i believe. A pro average in Candlepin is roughly 125-130. Tom Olszta (who holds most records in Candlepin) had a 136 average for a while in late-1994/early-1995, and that is the highest average I have ever seen.
Here is Olszta himself (and 4 others) at their best, during the 1993 Candlepin Finals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU5wXewH ... playnext=1Note: If you watch the video and they say "___________, who qualified with a 454." That means his best three-string score of the season was 454 and the top five bowlers made the show.Very fun sport! There is nothing wrong with 10-pin, though. It has it's own challenges and fun points, it's just a matter of preference
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
(I wish there was an off-topic forum.... lol)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 21:23
by Phoenix
You may tell us strikes in this game are rare, but I've seen strikes galore in your video
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
And there's an off-topic section (well, sort of): the
Rantbox.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 22:01
by watka
Fair enough, candlepin and 10-pin bowling seem to be completely different challenges. I used to be in a youth 10-pin bowling league, but it seems that very few of my skills would translate into candlepin bowling (just like I'm no good at bowls either!).
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 22:27
by CarlosFerreira
Should we discuss golf, next?
I rather like the old Mk.4 V5.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 23:11
by eagleash
CarlosFerreira wrote:Should we discuss golf, next?
I rather like the old Mk.4 V5.
My Mum has just parted with her Mk.2 "Driver" GTi lookalike PAS & Auto.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 08:05
by CarlosFerreira
eagleash wrote:CarlosFerreira wrote:Should we discuss golf, next?
I rather like the old Mk.4 V5.
My Mum has just parted with her Mk.2 "Driver" GTi lookalike PAS & Auto.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Owned by a lady who only used it to go to the shops, huh?
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 10:31
by eagleash
CarlosFerreira wrote:eagleash wrote:CarlosFerreira wrote:Should we discuss golf, next?
I rather like the old Mk.4 V5.
My Mum has just parted with her Mk.2 "Driver" GTi lookalike PAS & Auto.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Owned by a lady who only used it to go to the shops, huh?
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Up to a point; yes. (Who do you think you are Madam? Stirling Moss's Mum?) Batting along, seat right forward, gripping the wheel tightly & peering over it like Wacky Races.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 13:37
by Phoenix
CarlosFerreira wrote:Should we discuss golf, next?
I rather like the old Mk.4 V5.
Or Polo
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
I quite like the Polo GT
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Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 15:57
by Waris
Oh dear, and here I was thinking you had news about Villeneuve Racing. *sigh and rolleyes*
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 15:59
by CarlosFerreira
Waris wrote:Oh dear, and here I was thinking you had news about Villeneuve Racing. *sigh and rolleyes*
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
We're, huh, slightly skeptical.
And phoenix, if you noticed, has brought us back into the equestrian discussion!
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 16:02
by eagleash
CarlosFerreira wrote:Waris wrote:Oh dear, and here I was thinking you had news about Villeneuve Racing. *sigh and rolleyes*
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
We're, huh, slightly skeptical.
And phoenix, if you noticed, has brought us back into the equestrian discussion!
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
& sceptical too...
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 22:00
by Phoenix
CarlosFerreira wrote:Waris wrote:Oh dear, and here I was thinking you had news about Villeneuve Racing. *sigh and rolleyes*
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
We're, huh, slightly skeptical.
And phoenix, if you noticed, has brought us back into the equestrian discussion!
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Urm...yeah, those Polos have some good horses under their hood, you know
![Embarrassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 09:00
by dr-baker
Phoenix wrote:CarlosFerreira wrote:Waris wrote:Oh dear, and here I was thinking you had news about Villeneuve Racing. *sigh and rolleyes*
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
We're, huh, slightly skeptical.
And phoenix, if you noticed, has brought us back into the equestrian discussion!
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Urm...yeah, those Polos have some good horses under their hood, you know
![Embarrassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
I fancy some mints with holes in the middle of them now...
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 12:40
by watka
What do they do with the middle part of the Polo? They should sell them in packs like they used to do with Kit Kat Squares.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 16:43
by eagleash
eagleash wrote:Waris wrote:eagleash wrote:After the USF1 problems, it seems to me that Bernie (or whoever), wants to make sure that any new teams are ready to go. I.e. everything has to be in place as a functioning GP team before candidates will even be considered. This is not so bad as far as design/build is concerned. The teams know they may fail & go into the project with that in mind. Though how they fund it I am not sure. The question of investors & sponsorship though is a major problem. ROI is all important. All three of this year's new teams were kind of bailed out late in the day by specifically, HRT, Virgin & Lotus (Malaysia) taking on the Litespeed project.
That does make for an interesting strategy: why not, then, come up with a well-designed, underfunded project, and then when the FIA accepts it, you let some big company buy it out?
The "well designed" part being moot, that is more or less what happened.
I have now seen reported in two (not very reliable) sources that the FIA are unlikely to award the 13th spot to anyone. & that an announcement is imminent.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 18:22
by dr-baker
watka wrote:What do they do with the middle part of the Polo? They should sell them in packs like they used to do with Kit Kat Squares.
I've never heard of Kit Kat Squares... Rice Krispie Squares yes, Kit Kat Squares no.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 20:29
by watka
dr-baker wrote:watka wrote:What do they do with the middle part of the Polo? They should sell them in packs like they used to do with Kit Kat Squares.
I've never heard of Kit Kat Squares... Rice Krispie Squares yes, Kit Kat Squares no.
I was thinking of Kit Kat Kubes, sorry.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 08:58
by dr-baker
watka wrote:dr-baker wrote:watka wrote:What do they do with the middle part of the Polo? They should sell them in packs like they used to do with Kit Kat Squares.
I've never heard of Kit Kat Squares... Rice Krispie Squares yes, Kit Kat Squares no.
I was thinking of Kit Kat Kubes, sorry.
Still not heard of them, sorry. I've seen Kit Kat balls on sale in France, though.
![Image](http://a21.idata.over-blog.com/300x249/2/19/93/51/archives/13/kit-kat-ball.jpg)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 10:14
by eagleash
There have been a huge No. of forms,shapes & variations on the basic Kit Kat bar including one with chilli powder in Japan. Kubes were still being sold recently in UK.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 12:00
by TomWazzleshaw
eagleash wrote:There have been a huge No. of forms,shapes & variations on the basic Kit Kat bar including one with chilli powder in Japan.
Chilli and sugar should never go together under any circumstances.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 12:02
by eagleash
Wizzie wrote:eagleash wrote:There have been a huge No. of forms,shapes & variations on the basic Kit Kat bar including one with chilli powder in Japan.
Chilli and sugar should never go together under any circumstances.
Don't give one to Kamui.
![Surprised :o](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 12:05
by Captain Hammer
Hauling this thread back to something resembling a topic ...
Jacques Villeneuve said that he hasn't heard anything from the FIA despite rumours in Autosprint claiming the 13th place would remain vacant for 2011.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 12:08
by eagleash
Captain Hammer wrote:Hauling this thread back to something resembling a topic ...
Jacques Villeneuve said that he hasn't heard anything from the FIA despite rumours in Autosprint claiming the 13th place would remain vacant for 2011.
Also rumoured, "announcement in few days". Perhaps immediately following the WMSC?
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 12:46
by GwilymJJames
5live have just tweeted...No 13th team for 2011 is also the big news... well sort of. None of the candidates met the required criteria
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 13:21
by dr-baker
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 15:09
by coops
No Villenueve Racing?
Its a disgrace.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 15:28
by madmark1974
coops wrote:No Villenueve Racing?
Its a disgrace.
Back to one-off (actually quite good) appearances in Nascar Nationwide races. That's where you'll see Villenueve Racing ...
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 17:34
by coops
And so these 9 pages have been for nothing.
I feel so used.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 17:55
by shinji
coops wrote:And so these 9 pages have been for nothing.
I feel so used.
Hey, it was a journey, and I personally feel like it's been worthwhile.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 18:07
by coops
I guess we've all learned something.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 19:58
by Walsh_e
All I can say is, HOW DARE THEY! (Bit of classic victorian theatre there) How dare they deny me, a loyal F1 fan who watches the races for free on the bbc and hasn't bought any merchandise since Minardi were bought out, the chance to watch Villenuve driving round at the back of the grid, in an uncompetitive car getting completely destroyed by his team mate! How dare they take away the only hope Hispania had of beating another team next season! But worst of all, how dare they deny us all of a team that are doomed to failure, they denied us a dead cert reject team, gits!
Still, there's always 2012!
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 21:35
by Jeroen Krautmeir
All the more reason for us to establish the F1 Rejects Team.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:29
by Phoenix
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:All the more reason for us to establish the F1 Rejects Team.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Only for them to deny us for lacking experience
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
I think after seeing Villeneuve Racing cruelly rejected we can get back to swimming horses to at least laugh a bit.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:39
by Jeroen Krautmeir
Phoenix wrote:Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:All the more reason for us to establish the F1 Rejects Team.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Only for them to deny us for lacking experience
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
I think after seeing Villeneuve Racing cruelly rejected we can get back to swimming horses to at least laugh a bit.
Don't worry! We'll buy two PS01's, hope the rules will revert to those used in 2001 suddenly, leaving the rest unprepared. We shall romp to victory, with the only sponsor being the Australian flag!
TRUE HESKETH!
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
![Image](http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab343/Malinth66/RejectCar.jpg)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:42
by Phoenix
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Phoenix wrote:Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:All the more reason for us to establish the F1 Rejects Team.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Only for them to deny us for lacking experience
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
I think after seeing Villeneuve Racing cruelly rejected we can get back to swimming horses to at least laugh a bit.
Don't worry! We'll buy two PS01's, hope the rules will revert to those used in 2001 suddenly, leaving the rest unprepared. We shall romp to victory, with the only sponsor being the Australian flag!
TRUE HESKETH!
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
![Image](http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab343/Malinth66/RejectCar.jpg)
Yeah, but what when we wreck the PSO1's? Oh, and I ask to be a titular driver before anyone else does. With me, I can assure you utter rejectdom, retiring with phisical exhaustion after 4 laps in every race, provided I hadn't crashed the car before
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Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:46
by Jeroen Krautmeir
All we need to do is arrive late in Melbourne (despite being based there), skip quali, start from the pitlane. Vettel will knock out a quarter of the field there and then, another quarter will start another pileup, while the rest retire somehow. You and your teammate would have been lapped 19 times, but with everyone else out, you just have to coast to victory.
In other words, drive Deletraz-type and allow attrition to do the work.
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:55
by Phoenix
Your plan seems very good, but what if someone hits us from behind on a straight?
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:57
by Jeroen Krautmeir
Phoenix wrote:Your plan seems very good, but what if someone hits us from behind on a straight?
We will install huge signal lights on the back of the car, so when you hear this roaring sound of a V10, move to the left, and turn you indicator light on.
This will of course cost alot, but the prize money from constant 1-2 finishes will take car of that.
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 23:01
by Phoenix
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Phoenix wrote:Your plan seems very good, but what if someone hits us from behind on a straight?
We will install huge signal lights on the back of the car, so when you hear this roaring sound of a V10, move to the left, and turn you indicator light on.
This will of course cost alot, but the prize money from constant 1-2 finishes will take car of that.
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Or we could install a boat horn that sounds all the time. It'd be annoying for everyone, but it's cheaper
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Re: Villeneuve Racing
Posted: 09 Sep 2010, 11:21
by coops
We're back on! JV has declared his intention to pursue Plan B (not the abysmal yoof singer) and purchase one of the existing teams. As one does. It can only be HRT cant it?