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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
And just to be different I go with Rosset.
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I say Lamy but by a short margin
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My first time guessing at this and I'm going for Rossett...
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Hm... Rosset here.
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I'll go for Lamy aswell
Murray Walker: "A lot of people here are really debating whether Ricardo Rosset is Formula 1 material"
Martin Brundle: "Well, it's a fairly short debate, Murray".
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Pedro Diniz's debut season score is high enough to get him near the Top 10. That's impressive. It will be interesting to find out if he makes it into the Top 10. Ricardo Zonta is another man we might see there because of his BAR years.
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Oh, and another man I can see having a go at the Top 10 is current driver Adrian Sutil because he was at the right place for it at Spyker and since the early days for Force 1ndia during a time when there are many, many races on the calendar.
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Oh, and another man I can see having a go at the Top 10 is current driver Adrian Sutil because he was at the right place for it at Spyker and since the early days for Force 1ndia during a time when there are many, many races on the calendar.
"I don't think we should be used to finance (the manufacturers') R&D because they will produce that engine anyway" said Monisha Kaltenborn.
"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
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Yannick wrote:Pedro Diniz's debut season score is high enough to get him near the Top 10. That's impressive. It will be interesting to find out if he makes it into the Top 10. Ricardo Zonta is another man we might see there because of his BAR years.
Please update this thread in shorter time intervals. Thank you.
Oh, and another man I can see having a go at the Top 10 is current driver Adrian Sutil because he was at the right place for it at Spyker and since the early days for Force 1ndia during a time when there are many, many races on the calendar.
Don't worry, I just went on holiday and just didn't feel like doing it. 1996 results will be up tomorrow.
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1996

1. Pedro Lamy - 225 laps (James1978, stupot94, Aerond, Bleu, the Masked Lapwing and Dartanian's pick)
2. Luca Badoer - 187 laps
3. Ukyo Katayama - 106 laps (Phoenix's pick)
4. Giancarlo Fisichella - 72 laps
5. Giovanni Lavaggi - 68 laps
6. Pedro Diniz - 66 laps
7. Riccardo Rosset - 63 laps (Wizzie, dr-baker and Shizuka's pick)
8. Andrea Montermini - 52 laps
9. Mika Salo - 37 laps
10. Rubens Barrichello - 29 laps
11. Jacques Villeneuve - 15 laps
12. Johnny Herbert - 13 laps
13. David Coulthard - 10 laps
14. Eddie Irvine - 9 laps
15. Olivier Panis - 8 laps
16. Heinz-Harald Frentzen - 6 laps
17. Martin Brundle - 6 laps
18. Mika Hakkinen - 1 lap
19. Michael Schumacher - 1 lap
Notes
500-lap mark: none (now 1)
400-lap mark: Pedro Diniz (now 9)
300-lap mark: Ukyo Katayama (now 21)
200-lap mark: Luca Badoer, Pedro Lamy (now 49)
100-lap mark: Luca Badoer, Pedro Lamy, Giovanni Lavaggi (now 118)
50-lap mark: Pedro Lamy, Giovanni Lavaggi, Giancarlo Fisichella, Ricardo Rosset (now 193)
Prediction Standings
1. the Masked Lapwing (1.00)
2. DanielPT (2.00)
=. dinizintheoven (2.00)
=. Ferrim (2.00)
5. Aerond (2.75)
6. Shizuka (3.00)
7. Dartanian (3.83)
8. Bleu (4.00)
9. Phoenix (4.10)
10. resir014 (5.00)
=. Jeroen Krautmeir (5.00)
12. James1978 (5.75)
13. Wizzie (6.38)
14. thehemogoblin (7.00)
=. dr-baker (7.00)
16. tristan1117 (8.00)
17. stupot94 (8.67)
18. JQW (11.50)
19. ADx_Wales (12.00)
20. redbulljack14 (16.00)
Race Winners
Australia - Pedro Lamy
Brazil - Luca Badoer
Argentina - Andrea Montermini
Europe - Ukyo Katayama
San Marino - Luca Badoer
Monaco - Luca Badoer
Spain - Pedro Diniz
Canada - Giancarlo Fisichella
France - Pedro Lamy
Great Britain - Giancarlo Fisichella
Germany - Pedro Lamy
Hungary - Giovanni Lavaggi
Belgium - Rubens Barrichello
Italy - Ukyo Katayama
Portugal - Pedro Lamy
Japan - Ricardo Rosset
All-time standings
1. Jo Bonnier - 533 laps
2. Jo Siffert - 481 laps
3. Martin Brundle - 424 laps
4. Piercarlo Ghinzani - 420 laps
=. Jonathan Palmer - 420 laps
6. Pedro Diniz - 419 laps
7. Michele Alboreto - 418 laps
8. Jean-Pierre Jarier - 404 laps
9. Alan Jones - 401 laps
10. Thierry Boutsen - 396 laps

1. Pedro Lamy - 225 laps (James1978, stupot94, Aerond, Bleu, the Masked Lapwing and Dartanian's pick)
2. Luca Badoer - 187 laps
3. Ukyo Katayama - 106 laps (Phoenix's pick)
4. Giancarlo Fisichella - 72 laps
5. Giovanni Lavaggi - 68 laps
6. Pedro Diniz - 66 laps
7. Riccardo Rosset - 63 laps (Wizzie, dr-baker and Shizuka's pick)
8. Andrea Montermini - 52 laps
9. Mika Salo - 37 laps
10. Rubens Barrichello - 29 laps
11. Jacques Villeneuve - 15 laps
12. Johnny Herbert - 13 laps
13. David Coulthard - 10 laps
14. Eddie Irvine - 9 laps
15. Olivier Panis - 8 laps
16. Heinz-Harald Frentzen - 6 laps
17. Martin Brundle - 6 laps
18. Mika Hakkinen - 1 lap
19. Michael Schumacher - 1 lap
Notes
500-lap mark: none (now 1)
400-lap mark: Pedro Diniz (now 9)
300-lap mark: Ukyo Katayama (now 21)
200-lap mark: Luca Badoer, Pedro Lamy (now 49)
100-lap mark: Luca Badoer, Pedro Lamy, Giovanni Lavaggi (now 118)
50-lap mark: Pedro Lamy, Giovanni Lavaggi, Giancarlo Fisichella, Ricardo Rosset (now 193)
Prediction Standings
1. the Masked Lapwing (1.00)
2. DanielPT (2.00)
=. dinizintheoven (2.00)
=. Ferrim (2.00)
5. Aerond (2.75)
6. Shizuka (3.00)
7. Dartanian (3.83)
8. Bleu (4.00)
9. Phoenix (4.10)
10. resir014 (5.00)
=. Jeroen Krautmeir (5.00)
12. James1978 (5.75)
13. Wizzie (6.38)
14. thehemogoblin (7.00)
=. dr-baker (7.00)
16. tristan1117 (8.00)
17. stupot94 (8.67)
18. JQW (11.50)
19. ADx_Wales (12.00)
20. redbulljack14 (16.00)
Race Winners
Australia - Pedro Lamy
Brazil - Luca Badoer
Argentina - Andrea Montermini
Europe - Ukyo Katayama
San Marino - Luca Badoer
Monaco - Luca Badoer
Spain - Pedro Diniz
Canada - Giancarlo Fisichella
France - Pedro Lamy
Great Britain - Giancarlo Fisichella
Germany - Pedro Lamy
Hungary - Giovanni Lavaggi
Belgium - Rubens Barrichello
Italy - Ukyo Katayama
Portugal - Pedro Lamy
Japan - Ricardo Rosset
All-time standings
1. Jo Bonnier - 533 laps
2. Jo Siffert - 481 laps
3. Martin Brundle - 424 laps
4. Piercarlo Ghinzani - 420 laps
=. Jonathan Palmer - 420 laps
6. Pedro Diniz - 419 laps
7. Michele Alboreto - 418 laps
8. Jean-Pierre Jarier - 404 laps
9. Alan Jones - 401 laps
10. Thierry Boutsen - 396 laps
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
I'm going for Ukyo Katayama to win 1997.
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I'll go all radical and say Tarso Marques.
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
Katayama.
Close candidates are Salo, Morbidelli, Marques, and Trulli.
Close candidates are Salo, Morbidelli, Marques, and Trulli.
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Can't believe how far down Rosset is in 1996 to be honest! (Behind Diniz who was in a much better car too)
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
I choose Mika Salo here.
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Wow, just two seasons and Diniz and his inclusion in the All-time top 10 look rock solid. He´ll be with no doubt third by the end of 1997
For 1997 I´ll go different and say Verstappen.
For 1997 I´ll go different and say Verstappen.
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It's funny how Martin Brundle quietly manages to move up to 3rd in the all-time standings whilst Pedro Diniz makes a spectacular entrance to the Top 10 in 6th place. Forza PP Diniz!(Maybe it wasn't just sponsorship money because of which he later drove for PP Sauber AG. Maybe it was also his initials!) 

"I don't think we should be used to finance (the manufacturers') R&D because they will produce that engine anyway" said Monisha Kaltenborn.
"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
1997 tough.
Im going Damon Hill (and I will be surprised if he has not got any laps at the back with his Arrows)(Hungaroring though)
Im going Damon Hill (and I will be surprised if he has not got any laps at the back with his Arrows)(Hungaroring though)
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
I am going with Katayama too!
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By the way, just noticed that Johnny Claes is listed as a driver of the day today at StatsF1.
Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
I'll try with Ukyo Katayama again.
Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
In my original predictions I said Katayama for 1997 and see no reason to change him.
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Alright, keep posting your picks and I'll have 1997 up by the end of the week (schoolwork's a b*tch).
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Ukyo for me!
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
I'll stick with the crowd and go for Katayama
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Martin Brundle: "Well, it's a fairly short debate, Murray".
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This is historic, ladies and gentleman. A record standing for 25 years broken.
1997

1. Ukyo Katayama - 235 laps (Wizzie, Shizuka, the Masked Lapwing, DanielPT, Phoenix, James1978, tristan1117 and Dartanian's pick)
2. Jos Verstappen - 188 laps (Aerond's pick)
3. Mika Salo - 108 laps (Bleu's pick)
4. Jarno Trulli - 96 laps
5. Tarso Marques - 86 laps (Jeroen Krautmeir's pick)
6. Damon Hill - 72 laps (stupot94's pick)
7. Pedro Diniz - 62 laps
8. Nicola Larini - 47 laps
9. Gianni Morbidelli - 26 laps
10. Gerhard Berger - 24 laps
11. Jan Magnussen - 14 laps
12. Rubens Barrichello - 13 laps
13. Shinji Nakano - 9 laps
14. Norberto Fontana - 9 laps
15. Olivier Panis - 8 laps
16. Heinz-Harald Frentzen - 7 laps
17. Johnny Herbert - 7 laps
18. Eddie Irvine - 5 laps
19. Jacques Villeneuve - 1 lap
20. Giancarlo Fisichella - 1 lap
21. Mika Hakkinen - 1 lap
Notes
500-lap mark: Ukyo Katayama (now 2)
400-lap mark: Ukyo Katayama (now 10)
300-lap mark: none (now 21)
200-lap mark: none (now 49)
100-lap mark: Jos Verstappen, Damon Hill, Mika Salo, Olivier Panis (now 122)
50-lap mark: Jos Verstappen, Mika Salo, Jarno Trulli, Tarso Marques, Rubens Barrichello (now 198)
Prediction Standings
1. the Masked Lapwing (1.00)
2. DanielPT (1.86)
3. dinizintheoven (2.00)
=. Ferrim (2.00)
5. Shizuka (2.60)
6. Aerond (2.75)
7. Dartanian (3.43)
7. Phoenix (3.82)
9. Bleu (3.89)
10. resir014 (5.00)
=. Jeroen Krautmeir (5.00)
12. James1978 (5.47)
13. Wizzie (5.78)
14. tristan1117 (6.25)
15. thehemogoblin (7.00)
=. dr-baker (7.00)
17. stupot94 (8.29)
18. JQW (11.50)
19. ADx_Wales (12.00)
20. redbulljack14 (16.00)
Race Winners
Australia - Pedro Diniz
Brazil - Ukyo Katayama
Argentina - Nicola Larini
San Marino - Ukyo Katayama
Monaco - Nicola Larini
Spain - Jarno Trulli
Canada - Gianni Morbidelli
France - Damon Hill
Great Britain - Jos Verstappen
Germany - Jos Verstappen
Hungary - Mika Salo
Belgium - Jarno Trulli
Italy - Tarso Marques
Austria - Jos Verstappen
Luxembourg - Jos Verstappen
Japan - Mika Salo
Europe - Ukyo Katayama
All-time standings
1. Ukyo Katayama - 585 laps
2. Jo Bonnier - 533 laps
3. Jo Siffert - 481 laps
=. Pedro Diniz - 481 laps
5. Martin Brundle - 424 laps
6. Piercarlo Ghinzani - 420 laps
=. Jonathan Palmer - 420 laps
8. Michele Alboreto - 418 laps
9. Jean-Pierre Jarier - 404 laps
10. Alan Jones - 401 laps
1997

1. Ukyo Katayama - 235 laps (Wizzie, Shizuka, the Masked Lapwing, DanielPT, Phoenix, James1978, tristan1117 and Dartanian's pick)
2. Jos Verstappen - 188 laps (Aerond's pick)
3. Mika Salo - 108 laps (Bleu's pick)
4. Jarno Trulli - 96 laps
5. Tarso Marques - 86 laps (Jeroen Krautmeir's pick)
6. Damon Hill - 72 laps (stupot94's pick)
7. Pedro Diniz - 62 laps
8. Nicola Larini - 47 laps
9. Gianni Morbidelli - 26 laps
10. Gerhard Berger - 24 laps
11. Jan Magnussen - 14 laps
12. Rubens Barrichello - 13 laps
13. Shinji Nakano - 9 laps
14. Norberto Fontana - 9 laps
15. Olivier Panis - 8 laps
16. Heinz-Harald Frentzen - 7 laps
17. Johnny Herbert - 7 laps
18. Eddie Irvine - 5 laps
19. Jacques Villeneuve - 1 lap
20. Giancarlo Fisichella - 1 lap
21. Mika Hakkinen - 1 lap
Notes
500-lap mark: Ukyo Katayama (now 2)
400-lap mark: Ukyo Katayama (now 10)
300-lap mark: none (now 21)
200-lap mark: none (now 49)
100-lap mark: Jos Verstappen, Damon Hill, Mika Salo, Olivier Panis (now 122)
50-lap mark: Jos Verstappen, Mika Salo, Jarno Trulli, Tarso Marques, Rubens Barrichello (now 198)
Prediction Standings
1. the Masked Lapwing (1.00)
2. DanielPT (1.86)
3. dinizintheoven (2.00)
=. Ferrim (2.00)
5. Shizuka (2.60)
6. Aerond (2.75)
7. Dartanian (3.43)
7. Phoenix (3.82)
9. Bleu (3.89)
10. resir014 (5.00)
=. Jeroen Krautmeir (5.00)
12. James1978 (5.47)
13. Wizzie (5.78)
14. tristan1117 (6.25)
15. thehemogoblin (7.00)
=. dr-baker (7.00)
17. stupot94 (8.29)
18. JQW (11.50)
19. ADx_Wales (12.00)
20. redbulljack14 (16.00)
Race Winners
Australia - Pedro Diniz
Brazil - Ukyo Katayama
Argentina - Nicola Larini
San Marino - Ukyo Katayama
Monaco - Nicola Larini
Spain - Jarno Trulli
Canada - Gianni Morbidelli
France - Damon Hill
Great Britain - Jos Verstappen
Germany - Jos Verstappen
Hungary - Mika Salo
Belgium - Jarno Trulli
Italy - Tarso Marques
Austria - Jos Verstappen
Luxembourg - Jos Verstappen
Japan - Mika Salo
Europe - Ukyo Katayama
All-time standings
1. Ukyo Katayama - 585 laps
2. Jo Bonnier - 533 laps
3. Jo Siffert - 481 laps
=. Pedro Diniz - 481 laps
5. Martin Brundle - 424 laps
6. Piercarlo Ghinzani - 420 laps
=. Jonathan Palmer - 420 laps
8. Michele Alboreto - 418 laps
9. Jean-Pierre Jarier - 404 laps
10. Alan Jones - 401 laps
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
We have to wait and see whether Diniz is able to improve that record even further. Katayama retired after 1997. Conspiracy theorists can say something about this, did he know that he had moved to 1st position?
On with my 1998 pick: Esteban Tuero.
On with my 1998 pick: Esteban Tuero.
Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
1998 will be very tough... I particularly think it will be Riccardo Rosset, with Takagi very close.
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Rosset for 1998!
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Ricardo Tosser...errrm, I mean Rosset, of course, even though (or because of) he DNQd in a few races.
Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
Katayama's record is spectacular. I did not expect Joakim Bonnier's record to be broken so soon. We will have to wait and see if besides Pedro Diniz also HWNSNBM, Christijan Albers, Tiago Monteiro, Sakon Yamamoto and Adrian Sutil can make it into the Top 10.
I get the strange feeling that Narain Karthikeyan has returned to F1 this year to have a go at winning the prestigious Johnny Claes Award ...
I get the strange feeling that Narain Karthikeyan has returned to F1 this year to have a go at winning the prestigious Johnny Claes Award ...
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"You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
I didn't expect Katayama to burst into the No. 1 spot
For 1998 of course I'm going to go for my all-time favourite reject, RICARDO ROSSET =D

For 1998 of course I'm going to go for my all-time favourite reject, RICARDO ROSSET =D
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
Pedro Diniz will take no. 1 spot. And Adrian Sutil will be the only one with a chance at beating him.
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Re: F1 Rejects Johnny Claes Award
My money's on Olivier Panis
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I'm gonna go different and go for Takagi. Especially because I don't like the look of that 1.00 average...
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Panis is my choice for this year!
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