F1RWRS -- 2015 Season - ROTY voting!!!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 24 Aug 2012, 17:11

Aerond wrote:Ok, taken note.
Please have in count that any team going over the 4 driver limit will be given a penalty of at least 100 credits. No excuses this year.

I highly doubt I will even get to 4, let alone over that.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Aug 2012, 17:14

Phoenix wrote:
dr-baker wrote:I just want to draw to the attention of the series organiser and the editors of the Wiki this arrangement between Aeroracing and Foxdale. Thank you.

True. And if someone can... errr... do that special livery to pay our respects to Eff One Jr. It's just a black car with some writing

OK, an email has been sent to Aerond, spending credits on both qualifying and race performance for Pippa. Douglas is racing for you in round 1 then you'll have Pippa for the rest of the season.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 24 Aug 2012, 21:10

Aerond wrote:
FMecha wrote:
Aerond wrote:Ok, taken note.
Please have in count that any team going over the 4 driver limit will be given a penalty of at least 100 credits. No excuses this year.

Is it Cr100 fine per extra driver hired? And how about driver injuries/deaths?

Unless you're like Klon, and hire grandpas in their 70's to kill them later, the shouldn't be a problem (and even then Klon managed to stay within the 4 driver limit), as I said, no excuses, don't change your drivers like crazy and you won't be at risk of passing the limit.

Or in the case of Frank Zimmer where you WILL be arrested on sight as soon as you land at Sao Paulo :lol:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 24 Aug 2012, 21:13

Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:
FMecha wrote:
Is it Cr100 fine per extra driver hired? And how about driver injuries/deaths?

Unless you're like Klon, and hire grandpas in their 70's to kill them later, the shouldn't be a problem (and even then Klon managed to stay within the 4 driver limit), as I said, no excuses, don't change your drivers like crazy and you won't be at risk of passing the limit.

Or in the case of Frank Zimmer where you WILL be arrested on sight as soon as you land at Sao Paulo

Remind me, what did Zimmer do that's so wrong??

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 24 Aug 2012, 21:18

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:
Unless you're like Klon, and hire grandpas in their 70's to kill them later, the shouldn't be a problem (and even then Klon managed to stay within the 4 driver limit), as I said, no excuses, don't change your drivers like crazy and you won't be at risk of passing the limit.

Or in the case of Frank Zimmer where you WILL be arrested on sight as soon as you land at Sao Paulo

Remind me, what did Zimmer do that's so wrong??

Some vandalism and arson charges from 2008. Presumably from setting his Honda RA108 on fire after the Brazilian Grand Prix :lol:

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 24 Aug 2012, 22:56

Just in case anyone missed it....

Vote for your top six drivers and which teams will be heros or zeros.

Currently Mark Dagnall is currently most peoples WDC. With Rhys Davies, Phillippe Nicolas, Sammy Jones, Shinobu Katayama, Pippa Mann all closely fighting for the other places.

MRT is currently the clear WCC

DGN, Sunshine and Jones are close behind with each of them all possible WCC.

Arrowtech, Kamaha, Aeroracing and Gillet are likely to get podiums through the year and be the strong top midfield teams.

Simpson, Holden, Prospec and Foxdale are currently likely to get the minor points, which is going to be a distress to Holden and Foxdale...

Kingfisher, Autodynamics, Alitalia, Boxtel should all qualify for most races and may get a few points.

Tropico and Revolution are likely to qualify for a few races but are unlikely to break the top ten too much.

Mecha adn Dofasco will fight each other not to end up as the bottom team as they rack up DNPQs all season.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 24 Aug 2012, 22:58

Mecha bought upgrades for 30 credits; 85 left.
Foxdale bought upgrades for 190 credits; 200 left.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 25 Aug 2012, 00:34

I need to know if Vantini and Macklin are pay or regular drivers, thank you.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 00:38

Aerond wrote:I need to know if Vantini and Macklin are pay or regular drivers, thank you.

Macklin's a regular driver and would therefore get 45 bonus points for both qualifying and race performance.

As far as I'm aware, Vantini's a regular driver as well but I'm not 100% sure.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 25 Aug 2012, 00:43

Rosco Vantini is a regular driver, he has talent so does not need money to buy a seat and hopefully will give Jones a run for his money.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 00:47

SuperAguri wrote:Rosco Vantini is a regular driver, he has talent so does not need money to buy a seat and hopefully will give Jones a run for his money.

So that means 45 bonus performance points for Vantini as well. Just out of curiosity, how many other drivers do you have?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 25 Aug 2012, 00:47

SuperAguri wrote:Rosco Vantini is a regular driver, he has talent so does not need money to buy a seat and hopefully will give Jones a run for his money.

You better hope, because I don't think Mori will :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 00:50

Phoenix wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Rosco Vantini is a regular driver, he has talent so does not need money to buy a seat and hopefully will give Jones a run for his money.

You better hope, because I don't think Mori will

Not necessarily. During my experiments last night to see the differences between my simplified calculations and the official calculations, Kamaha were one of the dark horses based on original stats alone.

Interestingly enough, the difference between my calculations and the official ones for the first two-thirds of the list were 2 tenths of a second. Or just over 0.2% over a 90 second lap. Once you got to Autodynamics and beyond however, things started to go pear-shaped. :lol:

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 25 Aug 2012, 01:06

Wizzie wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Rosco Vantini is a regular driver, he has talent so does not need money to buy a seat and hopefully will give Jones a run for his money.

So that means 45 bonus performance points for Vantini as well. Just out of curiosity, how many other drivers do you have?

Not too many. Mori, S Katayama, Vantini, Al Faisal, Y Katayama (F2)....

Vantini was choosen by Jones for his talent. Mori will challenge Jones

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 01:08

SuperAguri wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Rosco Vantini is a regular driver, he has talent so does not need money to buy a seat and hopefully will give Jones a run for his money.

So that means 45 bonus performance points for Vantini as well. Just out of curiosity, how many other drivers do you have?

Not too many. Mori, S Katayama, Vantini, Al Faisal, Y Katayama (F2)....

Vantini was choosen by Jones for his talent. Mori will challenge Jones

Ah, so Al Faisal is your guy then... so are you and Jeremy interested in a little deal for this year with MRT?

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 25 Aug 2012, 01:27

Well he was Dave Mcfasts guy, but I inherited him when I took over FAT.

You will have to talk to The Fox and Prince Falik for any deals with MRT.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 02:28

Fair enough.

MRT are interested in using Al-Faisel for the three North American races this year, mostly to protect our position financially in case DGNgineering and company have credits to burn by that point and I have absolutely no intention of running the muppet Reyna-Sanchez and Eurobrun will probably want to keep O'Lauchlan in the car for the year. In return, ArrowTech can run Phillippe Nicolas for those three races in his place and, for 2016, ArrowTech will have first priority over every other team for Nicolas' services as a driver should you accept.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 06:38

There are unconfirmed rumours out of Israel that Teva Pharmaceuticals Industries is about to become the title sponsor of Revolution-Honda.

I mean, seriously, a predominantly white with green stripes livery would be both simple and effective

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 25 Aug 2012, 07:23

Not happening. I do not want the team to be affiliated with F1 Honda's 2008 livery.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 07:24

Shizuka wrote:Not happening. I do not want the team to be affiliated with F1 Honda's 2008 livery.

But that would be the most rejectful thing you could possibly do. And it'll put you one-up on Klon in the process :lol:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 25 Aug 2012, 07:40

Shizuka wrote:Not happening. I do not want the team to be affiliated with F1 Honda's 2008 livery.

Which is ironic given you have Honda engines for this season :lol:

Oh, and Aerond, cand you send us 2014 Sunshine livery so that someone (proably me or Pasta) can update Sunshine's livery.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:30

Wizzie wrote:Fair enough.

MRT are interested in using Al-Faisel for the three North American races this year, mostly to protect our position financially in case DGNgineering and company have credits to burn by that point and I have absolutely no intention of running the muppet Reyna-Sanchez and Eurobrun will probably want to keep O'Lauchlan in the car for the year. In return, ArrowTech can run Phillippe Nicolas for those three races in his place and, for 2016, ArrowTech will have first priority over every other team for Nicolas' services as a driver should you accept.

Would MRT be interested in doing a deal with Kingfisher's David Neuberg? In case Al Faisal doesn't want to do a swap.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:32

AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Fair enough.

MRT are interested in using Al-Faisel for the three North American races this year, mostly to protect our position financially in case DGNgineering and company have credits to burn by that point and I have absolutely no intention of running the muppet Reyna-Sanchez and Eurobrun will probably want to keep O'Lauchlan in the car for the year. In return, ArrowTech can run Phillippe Nicolas for those three races in his place and, for 2016, ArrowTech will have first priority over every other team for Nicolas' services as a driver should you accept.

Would MRT be interested in doing a deal with Kingfisher's David Neuberg? In case Al Faisal doesn't want to do a swap.

Actually, that arguably works better for us. We'll have Neuberg on a preliminary contract for the three American rounds in 2015 and, in turn, you can have Nicolas for 2016.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:39

Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Would MRT be interested in doing a deal with Kingfisher's David Neuberg? In case Al Faisal doesn't want to do a swap.

Actually, that arguably works better for us. We'll have Neuberg on a preliminary contract for the three American rounds in 2015 and, in turn, you can have Nicolas for 2016.

So, if this goes ahead, Neuberg and Nicolas swap seats for rounds 4 (Mexico), 5 (US) and 6 (Canada). After that, drivers return to their original teams. Do we have first-option over Nicolas and you have first-option over Neuberg?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:43

AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Would MRT be interested in doing a deal with Kingfisher's David Neuberg? In case Al Faisal doesn't want to do a swap.

Actually, that arguably works better for us. We'll have Neuberg on a preliminary contract for the three American rounds in 2015 and, in turn, you can have Nicolas for 2016.

So, if this goes ahead, Neuberg and Nicolas swap seats for rounds 4 (Mexico), 5 (US) and 6 (Canada). After that, drivers return to their original teams. Do we have first-option over Nicolas and you have first-option over Neuberg?

You do indeed have first option for Nicolas. We will consider signing Neuberg for 2016 but since Daniel Melrose himself has stated he wants to drive alongside his good friend Davies for next year, we'll probably have him as our official reserve driver/lead F2RWRS driver as he'd be eligible for an F2RWRS seat by the skin of his teeth

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:05

What's happening to Macklin then? Staying at Simpson for another year?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:07

AndreaModa wrote:What's happening to Macklin then? Staying at Simpson for another year?

That will be decided on a later date. O'Lauchlan will probably head back to America at the end of the year however to give us more options as far as the driver limit is concerned.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:11

Wizzie wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:What's happening to Macklin then? Staying at Simpson for another year?

That will be decided on a later date. O'Lauchlan will probably head back to America at the end of the year however to give us more options as far as the driver limit is concerned.

Fair enough, I assumed you'd go for a Davies/Macklin line-up for 2016.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:43

Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Actually, that arguably works better for us. We'll have Neuberg on a preliminary contract for the three American rounds in 2015 and, in turn, you can have Nicolas for 2016.

So, if this goes ahead, Neuberg and Nicolas swap seats for rounds 4 (Mexico), 5 (US) and 6 (Canada). After that, drivers return to their original teams. Do we have first-option over Nicolas and you have first-option over Neuberg?

You do indeed have first option for Nicolas. We will consider signing Neuberg for 2016 but since Daniel Melrose himself has stated he wants to drive alongside his good friend Davies for next year, we'll probably have him as our official reserve driver/lead F2RWRS driver as he'd be eligible for an F2RWRS seat by the skin of his teeth

Ok then, it's all agreed.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:44

AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:So, if this goes ahead, Neuberg and Nicolas swap seats for rounds 4 (Mexico), 5 (US) and 6 (Canada). After that, drivers return to their original teams. Do we have first-option over Nicolas and you have first-option over Neuberg?

You do indeed have first option for Nicolas. We will consider signing Neuberg for 2016 but since Daniel Melrose himself has stated he wants to drive alongside his good friend Davies for next year, we'll probably have him as our official reserve driver/lead F2RWRS driver as he'd be eligible for an F2RWRS seat by the skin of his teeth

Ok then, it's all agreed.

It's a deal then. By the way, it's rounds 5, 6 and 7; not 4, 5 and 6.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:52

And again wizzie diminishes his chances of winning WDC by stupid driver swapping or replacement.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:55

Aerond wrote:And again wizzie diminishes his chances of winning WDC by stupid driver swapping or replacement.

I already know for a fact Nicolas has got inferior stats to Davies so what harm is there in trying to get some more credits for the team? And besides, the deal can be revoked at a moment's notice depending on how results in the first four races go.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 25 Aug 2012, 12:54

Wizzie wrote:Fair enough.

MRT are interested in using Al-Faisel for the three North American races this year, mostly to protect our position financially in case DGNgineering and company have credits to burn by that point and I have absolutely no intention of running the muppet Reyna-Sanchez and Eurobrun will probably want to keep O'Lauchlan in the car for the year. In return, ArrowTech can run Phillippe Nicolas for those three races in his place and, for 2016, ArrowTech will have first priority over every other team for Nicolas' services as a driver should you accept.

ArrowTech will kindly decline this offer. Not that we don't like Nicolas, but we're quite afraid he'll find a way to either crash the car or make it break down. (Besides, at the moment, we're quite fine with Bosevic's services.)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 12:55

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Fair enough.

MRT are interested in using Al-Faisel for the three North American races this year, mostly to protect our position financially in case DGNgineering and company have credits to burn by that point and I have absolutely no intention of running the muppet Reyna-Sanchez and Eurobrun will probably want to keep O'Lauchlan in the car for the year. In return, ArrowTech can run Phillippe Nicolas for those three races in his place and, for 2016, ArrowTech will have first priority over every other team for Nicolas' services as a driver should you accept.

ArrowTech will kindly decline this offer. Not that we don't like Nicolas, but we're quite afraid he'll find a way to either crash the car or make it break down. (Besides, at the moment, we're quite fine with Bosevic's services.)

Solves one potential problem then as I already did the deal with Kingfisher first.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 25 Aug 2012, 12:58

Wizzie wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Fair enough.

MRT are interested in using Al-Faisel for the three North American races this year, mostly to protect our position financially in case DGNgineering and company have credits to burn by that point and I have absolutely no intention of running the muppet Reyna-Sanchez and Eurobrun will probably want to keep O'Lauchlan in the car for the year. In return, ArrowTech can run Phillippe Nicolas for those three races in his place and, for 2016, ArrowTech will have first priority over every other team for Nicolas' services as a driver should you accept.

ArrowTech will kindly decline this offer. Not that we don't like Nicolas, but we're quite afraid he'll find a way to either crash the car or make it break down. (Besides, at the moment, we're quite fine with Bosevic's services.)

Solves one potential problem then as I already did the deal with Kingfisher first.

Besides, we kinda need the credits ourselves...

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 25 Aug 2012, 13:02

Although (as long as Aerond did not make stupid stats for Al Faisal, as he has scored points and outqualified team mates), Al Faisal would have been a better choice for MRT but Arrowtech are smart on this one as they know Al-Faisal will score them points and earn them bucketloads of money.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 Aug 2012, 13:12

I don't think Neuberg is a bad choice for MRT. After all, he destroyed Valsattis last year and our two starts came from Neuberg too. And us having Nicolas in the car, even if he is crash-prone, should help us get onto the grid at least.

But yeah Wizzie, if you need to cancel the deal at any time that's fine.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Aug 2012, 13:14

AdrianSutil wrote:I don't think Neuberg is a bad choice for MRT. After all, he destroyed Valsattis last year and our two starts came from Neuberg too. And us having Nicolas in the car, even if he is crash-prone, should help us get onto the grid at least.

But yeah Wizzie, if you need to cancel the deal at any time that's fine.

No, Spencer was the crash-prone one. Nicolas was the one who kept tearing the gearboxes and engines to shreds. :lol:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 25 Aug 2012, 13:17

Who owns Nicolas? I'm sure they won't be too pleased that Nicolas is going from a potential front-running team to a team that is in Pre-Q

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 25 Aug 2012, 13:18

Wizzie wrote:No, Spencer was the crash-prone one. Nicolas was the one who kept tearing the gearboxes and engines to shreds.

More like the engines and gearbox gave up on him. Vintage BMW, always shifting the blame to others. :lol: