The Alessandro Zanardi IndyCar Thread

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 28 May 2013, 02:26

andrew2209 wrote:ROTR:Dario Franchitti-ruined another exciting finish by bringing out the yellow flag.

Man, the past five 500s have ended with a yellow (counting Hildebrand's fail). That seems excessive.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 29 May 2013, 14:52

go_Rubens wrote:
andrew2209 wrote:ROTR:Dario Franchitti-ruined another exciting finish by bringing out the yellow flag.

Man, the past five 500s have ended with a yellow (counting Hildebrand's fail). That seems excessive.

Hilebrand didn't bring out the yellow as he was trying to limp home and Barnhart waited to throw the flag to let him try. The yellow didn't come out until Wheldon had crossed the stripe. It amazes me how when so many people bitched about this when it happened saying it SHOULD HAVE ended under yellow (which really was TGBB's only smart move ever IMO) that now that this year's race is over, people are all like "oh five yellows in a row, blah blah blah". And besides, really do we want to change last year's race? If it didn't end under yellow, that means Taku never made his move. I'd take the yellow myself.

This is what happens because the race is the Indy 500, not the 502, or 504. And no matter how many people call for it, they will NEVER be a GWC at Indy. And I thank God for that.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 29 May 2013, 21:23

there's some kind of curse with 2nd place rookie in the Indy 500, especially in the following seasons. Marco Andretti and Hildebrand are examples of this. This is the most sucessfull season for Marco since your rookie season, after years being completely thrashed by your team-mates (except for Danica Patrick and Hideki Mutoh)! And Hildebrand still rubbish.

So...Carlos Munoz...

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 29 May 2013, 23:21

Dj_bereta wrote:there's some kind of curse with 2nd place rookie in the Indy 500, especially in the following seasons. Marco Andretti and Hildebrand are examples of this. This is the most sucessfull season for Marco since your rookie season, after years being completely thrashed by your team-mates (except for Danica Patrick and Hideki Mutoh)! And Hildebrand still rubbish.

So...Carlos Munoz...

I also would go as far as to saying A.J. Allmendinger might be able to produce a more fruitful IndyCar career than Carlos given that curse.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 May 2013, 00:05

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:there's some kind of curse with 2nd place rookie in the Indy 500, especially in the following seasons. Marco Andretti and Hildebrand are examples of this. This is the most sucessfull season for Marco since your rookie season, after years being completely thrashed by your team-mates (except for Danica Patrick and Hideki Mutoh)! And Hildebrand still rubbish.

So...Carlos Munoz...

I also would go as far as to saying A.J. Allmendinger might be able to produce a more fruitful IndyCar career than Carlos given that curse.

Considering that I'm convinced Allmendinger would've won Indy had his belts not come undone, I think you may be right...

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 30 May 2013, 00:17

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:there's some kind of curse with 2nd place rookie in the Indy 500, especially in the following seasons. Marco Andretti and Hildebrand are examples of this. This is the most sucessfull season for Marco since your rookie season, after years being completely thrashed by your team-mates (except for Danica Patrick and Hideki Mutoh)! And Hildebrand still rubbish.

So...Carlos Munoz...

I also would go as far as to saying A.J. Allmendinger might be able to produce a more fruitful IndyCar career than Carlos given that curse.

Considering that I'm convinced Allmendinger would've won Indy had his belts not come undone, I think you may be right...

I'm kinda convinced by this...

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 30 May 2013, 00:49

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:there's some kind of curse with 2nd place rookie in the Indy 500, especially in the following seasons. Marco Andretti and Hildebrand are examples of this. This is the most sucessfull season for Marco since your rookie season, after years being completely thrashed by your team-mates (except for Danica Patrick and Hideki Mutoh)! And Hildebrand still rubbish.

So...Carlos Munoz...

I also would go as far as to saying A.J. Allmendinger might be able to produce a more fruitful IndyCar career than Carlos given that curse.

Considering that I'm convinced Allmendinger would've won Indy had his belts not come undone, I think you may be right...

Just what on earth happened to his belts anyway? Shouldn't it be one of the last things to fail on a car??

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 30 May 2013, 20:43

Some news coming out of the Panther team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107773

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107774

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 30 May 2013, 20:54

what in the jesus!?
why would they just shear him off the team like that?
where will he go now?
i know his season got off to a rocky start but letting him go this early? jeez.

Hound55 · Post by **Hound55** » 30 May 2013, 21:46

Kimi-ICE wrote:Some news coming out of the Panther team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107773

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107774

Well, I never have been impressed by Hildebrand, so I'm not surprised. At least Ryan Briscoe gets to come back.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 30 May 2013, 21:47

Hound55 wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:Some news coming out of the Panther team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107773

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107774

Well, I never have been impressed by Hildebrand, so I'm not surprised. At least Ryan Briscoe gets to come back.

I agree Hildebrand's been rubbish since the 2011 Indy 500

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 30 May 2013, 22:48

Hound55 wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:Some news coming out of the Panther team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107773

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107774

Well, I never have been impressed by Hildebrand, so I'm not surprised. At least Ryan Briscoe gets to come back.

Unfortunately for Briscoe, this might be another one-off ride.

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 30 May 2013, 22:59

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Hound55 wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:Some news coming out of the Panther team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107773

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107774

Well, I never have been impressed by Hildebrand, so I'm not surprised. At least Ryan Briscoe gets to come back.

Unfortunately for Briscoe, this might be another one-off ride.

Agreed. More than likely this will be Oriol Servia's ride after Detroit.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 31 May 2013, 00:20

WTF? That was premature, if anything.

Hildebrand is gone? I'd never have imagined. I thought he was a good driver, but yeah, he's been rubbish lately.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 31 May 2013, 00:28

Sponsors probably didn't pay up. That's probably the only fair reason why he's been sacked.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 31 May 2013, 00:43

JeremyMcClean wrote:Sponsors probably didn't pay up. That's probably the only fair reason why he's been sacked.

If his personal sponsors didn't pay up and the driver writes off the car early in the race finishing last that is the perfect storm for losing the ride.

Post by **Londoner** » 31 May 2013, 21:15

Session red flagged because...wait for it...DUCKS on the track. I'll repeat that, DUCKS on the track. :lol:

And apparently, EJ Viso is on pole. This race could be one for the reject archives...

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 31 May 2013, 21:22

East Londoner wrote:Session red flagged because...wait for it...DUCKS on the track. I'll repeat that, DUCKS on the track.

And apparently, EJ Viso is on pole. This race could be one for the reject archives...

Yes!

And for the video, the commentary job in my opinion sucked. Wow...

Ducks? I'll be damned!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 31 May 2013, 22:04

East Londoner wrote:Session red flagged because...wait for it...DUCKS on the track. I'll repeat that, DUCKS on the track.

Quackers.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 31 May 2013, 22:45

Was one of the ducklings ugly?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jun 2013, 11:05

Jocke1 wrote:Was one of the ducklings ugly?

Why? Were they swanning around?

The Dutch Bear · Post by **The Dutch Bear** » 01 Jun 2013, 21:51

Mike Conway wins the first race for Detroit! With Justin Wilson in third a 1-3 for Dale Coyne Racing :shock:

Amazing result, when especially in the CART era Dale Coyne Racing were the laughing stock of the field.
Conway just getting the ride last week and winning now + being on pole tomorrow. :shock:

Honourable mention to Scott Dixon, who was in last after the first lap and drove the wheels of his car to finish in fourth.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 02 Jun 2013, 01:20

But the big news coming out of the first race was this image.

It speaks for itself.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 02 Jun 2013, 02:08

STRIKES AGAIN

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 02 Jun 2013, 03:45

RealRacingRoots wrote:But the big news coming out of the first race was this image.

It speaks for itself.

And Saavedra continues to be a rejectful driver. Maybe J.R. Hildebrand has found his ride now given how incompetent Saavedra is.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 02 Jun 2013, 05:19

nome66 wrote:
STRIKES AGAIN

Can somebody please resize this image so it can be my new avatar

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 02 Jun 2013, 12:34

Congrats to the former Honda/Brawn GP test driver Mike Conway for winning the Saturday Detroit race in Dale Coyne's 2nd car.

I just saw the highlights video and I never would have thought it would feel so good to see the 2nd Coyne car win. Good luck to the team for the 2nd race today when they will start from the pole.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 02 Jun 2013, 16:43

eurobrun wrote:
nome66 wrote:
STRIKES AGAIN

Can somebody please resize this image so it can be my new avatar

it was my avatar at one point so i saved it

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 02 Jun 2013, 17:55

Impressive victory by Conway and great result for Dale Coyne. Also, this isn't good news for Bia, because she was always in the shadows of Wilson and the driver who replaced her won the race.

Also, I give my ROTR to A.J. Indy almost hero to Detroit almost zero.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 02 Jun 2013, 19:01

Taku was completely anonymous yesterday. exactly medium. not relevant.

sad, really.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:27

four yellow flags in 20 laps. This is going to be like Toronto 2011.

Edit: 7 YELLOWS FLAGS WITH 30 LAPS!

I think someone will steal A.J second ROTR in-a-row.

Post by **Londoner** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:46

Seven-car crash at the restart. This is turning into a demolition derby.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:48

Looked to me like Will Power tried to be like Schumacher on the restart, caused a huge stackup and Bourdais took the turn just a little too hard, expecting that Power wouldn't be going so slow.

But yup, we got Toronto 2001 all over again.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:49

Did Will Power survive that carnage because autosport are reporting that he got turned around

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:52

Kimi-ICE wrote:Did Will Power survive that carnage because autosport are reporting that he got turned around

He's out!

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:54

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:Did Will Power survive that carnage because autosport are reporting that he got turned around

He's out!

And he threw his gloves in Bourdais' car.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:56

Bourdais for ROTR: To quote Will Power "But Bourdais once was a champ and now he's a chump" says a lot really

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 02 Jun 2013, 20:59

Kimi-ICE wrote:Bourdais for ROTR: To quote Will Power "But Bourdais once was a champ and now he's a chump" says a lot really

Bourdais isn't in a top quality car like Mr. Power as the Frenchman went to Toro Rosso.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 02 Jun 2013, 21:00

Kimi-ICE wrote:Bourdais for ROTR: To quote Will Power "But Bourdais once was a champ and now he's a chump" says a lot really

Bourdais is in 4th, so if he wins the race, Will Power might have to eat those words...

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 02 Jun 2013, 21:02

Cynon wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:Bourdais for ROTR: To quote Will Power "But Bourdais once was a champ and now he's a chump" says a lot really

Bourdais is in 4th, so if he wins the race, Will Power might have to eat those words...

Indeed, but there is a Dario in Bourdais's way!