Grand Prix Rejects

Race - Great Britain

Thierry Boutsen takes Williams first win of the season in a chaotic British grand prix, after the first four cars into turn one all ended up in the wall, and long time leader Nigel Mansell was pitched into the wall five laps from home by a suspension failure. Mika Hakkinen brought his McLaren home in second just 3 seconds behind Boutsen with Ivan Capelli scoring Minardi's first podium of the year. Eric Bernard came home fourth for the unlucky Dallara, who at least got some points out of the race. JJ Lehto benefited from the attrition to score Lola two valuable points which will drag them out of pre-qualifying for the second half of the season. Bernd Schneider also did well on his Arrows debut to keep it on the road, and just held off Danielsson for the last point.

Results

1. Thierry Boutsen (BEL) Williams-Renault 1h 36mins 41.884 sec
2. Mika Häkkinen (FIN) McLaren-Honda (+3.564 sec)
3. Ivan Capelli (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (+57.361 sec)
4. Éric Bernard (FRA) Dallara-Ford (+1 Lap)
5. JJ Lehto (FIN) Lola-Lamborghini (+2 Laps)
6. Bernd Schneider (GER) Arrows-Honda (+3 Laps)
7. Thomas Danielsson (SWE) Lotus-Porsche (+3 Laps)
8. Nigel Mansell (GBR) Dallara-Ford (+5 Laps)/(Suspension)
DNF Gerhard Berger (AUT) Benetton-Ford (Didn't Finish)
DNF Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Renault (Didn't Finish)
DNF Allan McNish (GBR) EuroBrun-Ford (Didn't Finish)
DNF Riccardo Patrese (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (Puncture)
DNF Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford (Engine)
DNF Geoff Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (Transmission)
DNF Pierluigi Martini (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (Puncture)
DNF Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford (Oil Leak)
DNF Alex Zanardi (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (Transmission)
DNF Christian Danner (GER) Lotus-Porsche (Engine)
DNF Gary Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (Engine)
DNF Stefano Modena (ITA) EuroBrun-Ford (Engine)
DNF Alex Caffi (ITA) Lola-Lamborghini (Transmission)
DNF Olivier Panis (FRA) Ligier-Renault (Water Leak)
DNF Jean Alesi (FRA) McLaren-Honda (Didn't Finish)
DNF Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari (Didn't Finish)
DNF Ayrton Senna (BRA) Arrows-Honda (Didn't Finish)
DNF Johnny Herbert (GBR) Ferrari (Didn't Finish)

Drivers Championship

1 Alain Prost 36
2 Jean Alesi 31
3 Thierry Boutsen 23
4 Gerhard Berger 22
5 Nelson Piquet 18
6 Nigel Mansell 15
7 Johnny Herbert 13
8 Mika Häkkinen 12
9 Ayrton Senna 10
10 Ivan Capelli 8
11 Pierluigi Martini 5
12 Éric Bernard 3
13 Riccardo Patrese 2
14 Christian Danner 2
15 JJ Lehto 2
16 Olivier Panis 1
17 Érik Comas 1
18 Heinz-Harald Frentzen 1
19 Michael Schumacher 1
20 Stefan Johansson 1
21 Bernd Schneider 1

Constructors Championship

1 Ferrari 49
3 McLaren-Honda 43
2 Williams - Renault 41
4 Benetton-Ford 23
6 Dallara - Ford 18
5 Arrows - Honda 11
7 Minardi - Ferrari 8
8 Tyrrell - Ford 7
9 Lotus - Porsche 2
10 Lola - Lamborghini 2
11 Ligier - Renault 2
12 Jordan - Ford 1
13 Onyx - Cosworth 1

This result is good enough to make me break my 2+ week hiatus from the boards! Forza Ivan! Forza Minardi!

RedEyes504 wrote:and long time leader Nigel Mansell was pitched into the wall five laps from home by a suspension failure.

Scenes at the Dallara garage...


And there goes our chance to break into the top 4.

However, reflecting on the positives, we would like to promote Bernard to the 2nd Dallara seat for the rest of the season as a reward for several good performances. (Any extra money for it would be welcome but we will do this even if there isnt). On his return from injuiry, Brundle will be on testing duties.

And a large reliability test to stop this happening again.

Switch Alboreto and Fittipaldi please. Coloni is a lost cause, but there's still some Life left in the L191 it seems.

I'm fed up of Dale. I'll drop him and replace him with Scott Brayton, who we'll pay £200,000

Jot me down a Reliability upgrade, because it's still piss poor. A large one, even.

Some medium grip for WIlliams, please.

Medium reliability please.

If possible i'd like to get a large reliability upgrade.

Large speed please

Large speed upgrade for Arrows

Large speed upgrade for Mclaren

So, now that the Christmas holiday and January exams are finally over, I had the time to run the next race.

Pre-Qualifying Germany

Results

1. Stefano Modena (ITA) EuroBrun-Ford 1m 45.880 sec
2. Olivier Panis (FRA) Ligier-Renault (+0.367)
3. Heinz-Harald Frentzen (GER) Ligier-Renault (+0.441)
4. Luca Badoer (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (+0.456)
5. Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford (+0.894)
6. David Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (+0.895)
7. Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford (+0.985)
8. Stefan Johansson (SWE) Onyx-Cosworth (+1.168)
9. Geoff Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (+1.169)
10. Giovanna Amati (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (+1.227)
11. Allan McNish (GBR) EuroBrun-Ford (+1.334)
12. Emanuelle Pirro (ITA) Osella-Ford (+1.518)
13. John Nielsen (DEN) Osella-Ford (+1.840)
14. Eddie Irvine (GBR) AGS-Lamborghini (+2.114)
15. Alessandro Nannini (ITA) Life-Yamaha (+2.285)
16. Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) Life-Yamaha (+2.325)
17. Michael Bartels (GER) AGS-Lamborghini (+2.426)
18. Gregor Foitek (SWI) Onyx-Cosworth (+2.680)
19. Michele Alboreto (ITA) Coloni-Judd (+2.838)
20. Franco Forini (SWI) Leyton House-Ilmor (+3.571)
21. Volker Weidler (GER) Leyton House-Ilmor (+3.906)
22. Didier Auriol (FRA) Coloni-Judd (+4.191)

so, EuroBrun, Ligier, Lambo & Jordan make it into qualifying

Qualifying - Germany

Alain Prost took pole position for Ferrari with championship rival Jean Alesi joining him on the front row of the grid. Nelson Piquet will start third alongside the very impressive Eric Bernard, in only his third race this season. Nigel Mansell will start just behind his Dallara team mate in fifth, with reigning champion Gerhard Berger starting sixth. At the back it's Giovanna Amati in the Lambo and Allan McNish in the EuroBrun who will not be on the grid tomorrow.

Results

1. Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari 1m 44.797 sec
2. Jean Alesi (FRA) McLaren-Honda (+0.127)
3. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Renault (+0.179)
4. Éric Bernard (FRA) Dallara-Ford (+0.249)
5. Nigel Mansell (GBR) Dallara-Ford (+0.345)
6. Gerhard Berger (AUT) Benetton-Ford (+0.495)
7. Johnny Herbert (GBR) Ferrari (+0.528)
8. Mika Häkkinen (FIN) McLaren-Honda (+0.568)
9. Thierry Boutsen (BEL) Williams-Renault (+0.636)
10. Ayrton Senna (BRA) Arrows-Honda (+0.638)
11. Pierluigi Martini (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (+0.772)
12. Riccardo Patrese (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (+1.180)
13. Luca Badoer (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (+1.301)
14. Ivan Capelli (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (+1.418)
15. Érik Comas (FRA) Benetton-Ford (+1.468)
16. Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford (+1.630)
17. Alex Zanardi (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (+1.694)
18. Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford (+1.755)
19. Christian Danner (GER) Lotus-Porsche (+2.032)
20. Thomas Danielsson (SWE) Lotus-Porsche (+2.089)
21. JJ Lehto (FIN) Lola-Lamborghini (+2.138)
22. Olivier Panis (FRA)Ligier-Renault (+2.184)
23. Alex Caffi (ITA) Lola-Lamborghini (+2.188)
24. Bernd Schneider (GER) Arrows-Honda (+2.354)
25. Stefano Modena (ITA) EuroBrun-Ford (+2.410)
26. Heinz-Harald Frentzen (GER)Ligier-Renault (+2.520)
DNQ Giovanna Amati (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (+2.596)
DNQ Allan McNish (GBR) EuroBrun-Ford (+3.204)

Race - Germany

Nelson Piquet wins his first race of the season to make it two in a row for Williams. Johnny Herbert brought his Ferrari home second to claim his third podium of the year, with Eric Bernard following up his great qualifying with an equally impressive race performance to keep Thierry Boutsen behind him and claim his first ever podium. Mika Hakkinen came home fifth after damaging his front wing at the start and Heinz-Harald Frentzen battled through from last on the grid to score a point on home soil in his Ligier.

Results
1. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Renault 2h 21 min 22.911 sec
2. Johnny Herbert (GBR) Ferrari (+45.947 sec)
3. Éric Bernard (FRA) Dallara-Ford (+1m 02.495 sec)
4. Thierry Boutsen (BEL) Williams-Renault (+1m 05.288 sec)
5. Mika Häkkinen (FIN) McLaren-Honda (+1 Lap)
6. Heinz-Harald Frentzen (GER) Ligier-Renault (+1 Lap)
7. Christian Danner (GER) Lotus-Porsche (+1 Lap)
8. Érik Comas (FRA) Benetton-Ford (+1 Lap)
9. JJ Lehto (FIN) Lola-Lamborghini (+1 Lap)
10. Bernd Schneider (GER) Arrows-Honda (+1 Lap)
11. Olivier Panis (FRA) Ligier-Renault (+1 Lap)
12. Alex Zanardi (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (+1 Lap)
DNF Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari (Engine)
DNF Ayrton Senna (BRA) Arrows-Honda (Puncture)
DNF Ivan Capelli (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (Puncture)
DNF Riccardo Patrese (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (Loose Wheel)
DNF Gerhard Berger (AUT) Benetton-Ford (Suspension)
DNF Nigel Mansell (GBR) Dallara-Ford (Engine)
DNF Alex Caffi (ITA) Lola-Lamborghini (Engine)
DNF Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford (Suspension)
DNF Jean Alesi (FRA) McLaren-Honda (Electrical)
DNF Stefano Modena (ITA) EuroBrun-Ford (Engine)
DNF Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford (Engine)
DNF Thomas Danielsson (SWE) Lotus-Porsche (Suspension)
DNF Luca Badoer (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (Transmission)
DNF Pierluigi Martini (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (Engine)

Drivers Championship
1 Alain Prost 36
2 Jean Alesi 31
3 Nelson Piquet 28
4 Thierry Boutsen 26
5 Gerhard Berger 22
6 Johnny Herbert 19
7 Nigel Mansell 15
8 Mika Häkkinen 14
9 Ayrton Senna 10
10 Ivan Capelli 8
11 Éric Bernard 7
12 Pierluigi Martini 5
13 Christian Danner 2
14 Riccardo Patrese 2
15 JJ Lehto 2
16 Heinz-Harald Frentzen 2
17 Olivier Panis 1
18 Érik Comas 1
19 Michael Schumacher 1
20 Stefan Johansson 1
21 Bernd Schneider 1

Constructors Championship
Ferrari 55
Williams - Renault 54
McLaren-Honda 45
Benetton-Ford 23
Dallara - Ford 22
Arrows - Honda 11
Minardi - Ferrari 8
Tyrrell - Ford 7
Ligier - Renault 3
Lotus - Porsche 2
Lola - Lamborghini 2
Jordan - Ford 1
Onyx - Cosworth 1

We drastically need large speed upgrade

Biscione wrote:Switch Alboreto and Fittipaldi please. Coloni is a lost cause, but there's still some Life left in the L191 it seems.

You seem to have missed this and kept the lineups as before in the previous GP...change please....

RedEyes504 wrote:3 Nelson Piquet 28
4 Thierry Boutsen 26

Ferrari 55
Williams - Renault 54

I have to enjoy it while it lasts! Large reliability for Williams.

Biscione wrote:

Biscione wrote:Switch Alboreto and Fittipaldi please. Coloni is a lost cause, but there's still some Life left in the L191 it seems.

You seem to have missed this and kept the lineups as before in the previous GP...change please....

My bad, I'll switch them for next race

Leyton House is free and hopeless, right?
If so, I'd like to save their lousy asses.

Large speed upgrade for Ligier

Another large speed upgrade for us.

Rabbi Gordon wrote:Leyton House is free and hopeless, right?
If so, I'd like to save their lousy asses.

Welcome to the series, and good luck (with Leyton House you'll need it)

you can choose to change your line-up or keep the current one

Medium reliability for Ferrari please.

Neat!

So... Can I drop my engine supplier, pay the difference of 1 million and sign up with Ford? They can supply anyone with the HB 3.5, so it is nothing big.
If yes, then bye-bye Ilmor, welcome Ford and a GRIP upgrade please, large. (Is it 1 million or 2 millions?)

As for drivers, I'd like to drop all 3 of my current drivers, offering Gugelmin to be my TD for no money, but having his sponsors on the car.
I offer 300k to Eddie Cheever to drive the 1st car.
For the 2nd race seat, Christian Fittipaldi is offered 200k.

More large reliability upgrades for Dallara please!

I know it's far too early, but any chance i'd be able to reserve Simtek for 1994?

I'd have asked about Andrea Moda, but you'll be treating them as a continuation of Coloni I imagine, even if the FIA believed otherwise.

FullMetalJack wrote:I know it's far too early, but any chance i'd be able to reserve Simtek for 1994?

I'd have asked about Andrea Moda, but you'll be treating them as a continuation of Coloni I imagine, even if the FIA believed otherwise.

I was actually going to treat them as a new team, which mean they're yours if you want them

Rabbi Gordon wrote:Neat!

So... Can I drop my engine supplier, pay the difference of 1 million and sign up with Ford? They can supply anyone with the HB 3.5, so it is nothing big.
If yes, then bye-bye Ilmor, welcome Ford and a GRIP upgrade please, large. (Is it 1 million or 2 millions?)

As for drivers, I'd like to drop all 3 of my current drivers, offering Gugelmin to be my TD for no money, but having his sponsors on the car.
I offer 300k to Eddie Cheever to drive the 1st car.
For the 2nd race seat, Christian Fittipaldi is offered 200k.

Consider it done

RedEyes504 wrote:

FullMetalJack wrote:I know it's far too early, but any chance i'd be able to reserve Simtek for 1994?

I'd have asked about Andrea Moda, but you'll be treating them as a continuation of Coloni I imagine, even if the FIA believed otherwise.

I was actually going to treat them as a new team, which mean they're yours if you want them

I'll take it.

Well, I've only just noticed that the forum is back online, but I'd already run Hungary before it went offline so... the 1991 Hungarian Grand Prix

Pre-Qualifying - Hungary

1. Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford 1m 29.653 sec
2. Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford (+0.626)
3. David Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (+0.669)
4. Stefan Johansson (SWE) Onyx-Cosworth (+1.084)
5. Gary Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (+1.090)
6. Alessandro Nannini (ITA) Life-Yamaha (+1.261)
7. Olivier Panis (FRA) Ligier-Renault (+1.263)
8. Luca Badoer (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (+1.303)
9. Stefano Modena (ITA) EuroBrun-Ford (+1.367)
10. Eddie Cheever (USA) Leyton House-Ford (+1.382)
11. Michele Alboreto (ITA) Life-Yamaha (+1.385)
12. Giovanna Amati (ITA) Lambo-Lamborghini (+1.428)
13. Allan McNish (GBR) EuroBrun-Ford (+1.589)
14. Bertrand Gachot (BEL) AGS-Lamborghini (+1.819)
15. Christian Fittipaldi (BRA) Leyton House-Ford (+1.895)
16. John Nielsen (DEN) Osella-Ford (+1.955)
17. Emanuelle Pirro (ITA) Osella-Ford (+2.127)
18. Gregor Foitek (SWI) Onyx-Cosworth (+2.140)
19. Eddie Irvine (GBR) AGS-Lamborghini (+2.157)
20. Perry McCarthy (GBR) Ligier-Renault (+2.171)
21. Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) Coloni-Judd (+2.291)
22. Didier Auriol (FRA) Coloni-Judd (+2.810)

So, Jordan, Brabham, Onyx & Life will compete in qualifying

Qualifying - Hungary

After one of the closest qualifying sessions in a long time, Jean Alesi beat coutryman Alain Prost to pole by just 8 thousandths of a second, with Gerhard Berger in third only 6 hundredths from pole. Johnny Herbert will complete the second row in the second Ferrari. Nelson Piquet was the lead Williams in fifth and Nigel Mansell's Dallara will start sixth. At the back, Gregor Foitek failed to qualify his Onyx and (more surprisingly) Bernd Schneider also missed the cut in the Arrows.

Results

1. Jean Alesi (FRA) McLaren-Honda
2. Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari (+0.008)
3. Gerhard Berger (AUT) Benetton-Ford (+0.060)
4. Johnny Herbert (GBR) Ferrari (+0.219)
5. Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Renault (+0.354)
6. Nigel Mansell (GBR) Dallara-Ford (+0.390)
7. Mika Häkkinen (FIN) McLaren-Honda (+0.573)
8. Ayrton Senna (BRA) Arrows-Honda (+0.597)
9. Thierry Boutsen (BEL) Williams-Renault (+0.615)
10. Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford (+0.742)
11. Pierluigi Martini (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (+0.748)
12. Érik Comas (FRA) Benetton-Ford (+0.816)
13. Éric Bernard (FRA) Dallara-Ford (+0.849)
14. Christian Danner (GER) Lotus-Porsche (+0.915)
15. Stefan Johansson (SWE) Onyx-Cosworth (+1.092)
16. Riccardo Patrese (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford (+1.152)
17. Ivan Capelli (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (+1.255)
18. Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford (+1.323)
19. David Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (+1.340)
20. Alex Caffi (ITA) Lola-Lamborghini (+1.429)
21. Gary Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford (+1.660)
22. JJ Lehto (FIN) Lola-Lamborghini (+1.839)
23. Thomas Danielsson (SWE) Lotus-Porsche (+2.108)
24. Alessandro Nannini (ITA) Life-Yamaha (+2.120)
25. Alex Zanardi (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari (+2.127)
26. Michele Alboreto (ITA) Life-Yamaha (+2.389)
DNQ Bernd Schneider (GER) Arrows-Honda (+2.409)
DNQ Gregor Foitek (SWI) Onyx-Cosworth (+2.786)

Race-Hungary

Jean Alesi drove a brilliant race, with a lights to flag victory, which was made easier when his closest challenger Alain Prost was wiped out by Nelson Piquet soon after his first pit stop. Gerhard Berger was a solid second and Roberto Moreno drove a fantastic race to hold off Hakkinen & Boutsen for Jordan's first ever podium. The final point went to Pierluigi Martini in the Tyrrell.
Results

1. Jean Alesi (FRA) McLaren-Honda 1h 12min 47.372 sec
2. Gerhard Berger (AUT) Benetton-Ford +34.060
3. Roberto Moreno (BRA) Jordan-Ford +48.192
4. Mika Häkkinen (FIN) McLaren-Honda +48.632
5. Thierry Boutsen (BEL) Williams-Renault +49.023
6. Pierluigi Martini (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford +1m 07.137
7. Johnny Herbert (GBR) Ferrari +1m 08.138
8. Nigel Mansell (GBR) Dallara-Ford +1m 08.639
9. Ayrton Senna (BRA) Arrows-Honda +1m 09.541
10. David Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford +1 Lap
11. Érik Comas (FRA) Benetton-Ford +1 Lap
12. Alex Caffi (ITA) Lola-Lamborghini +1 Lap
13. Stefan Johansson (SWE) Onyx-Cosworth +1 Lap
14. Gary Brabham (AUS) Brabham-Ford +1 Lap
15. Michele Alboreto (ITA) Life-Yamaha +2 Laps
16. Alex Zanardi (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari +2 Laps
17. Alessandro Nannini (ITA) Life-Yamaha +2 Laps
DNF Christian Danner (GER) Lotus-Porsche Suspension
DNF Riccardo Patrese (ITA) Tyrrell-Ford Water Leak
DNF Thomas Danielsson (SWE) Lotus-Porsche Water Leak
DNF Ivan Capelli (ITA) Minardi-Ferrari Transmission
DNF Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari Didn't Finish
DNF Nelson Piquet (BRA) Williams-Renault Didn't Finish
DNF Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Ford Transmission
DNF JJ Lehto Lola-Lamborghini (FIN) Transmission
DNF Éric Bernard Dallara-Ford (FRA) Transmission

Drivers Championship
1 Jean Alesi 41
2 Alain Prost 36
3 Nelson Piquet 28
4 Gerhard Berger 28
5 Thierry Boutsen 28
6 Johnny Herbert 19
7 Mika Häkkinen 17
8 Nigel Mansell 15
9 Ayrton Senna 10
10 Ivan Capelli 8
11 Éric Bernard 7
12 Pierluigi Martini 6
13 Roberto Moreno 4
14 Christian Danner 2
15 Riccardo Patrese 2
16 JJ Lehto 2
17 Heinz-Harald Frentzen 2
18 Olivier Panis 1
19 Érik Comas 1
20 Michael Schumacher 1
21 Stefan Johansson 1
22 Bernd Schneider 1

Constructors Championship
1 McLaren-Honda 58
2 Williams - Renault 56
3 Ferrari 55
4 Benetton-Ford 29
5 Dallara - Ford 22
6 Arrows - Honda 11
7 Minardi - Ferrari 8
8 Tyrrell - Ford 8
9 Jordan - Ford 5
10 Ligier - Renault 3
11 Lotus - Porsche 2
12 Lola - Lamborghini 2
13 Onyx - Cosworth 1

15th and 17th! Is that enough to elevate Life above the relegation spots?

Large speed upgrade for Arrows please

Large speed for Ferrari please.

Yay, Cheever was on par with cars getting in the race. Go Eddie!

Biscione wrote:15th and 17th! Is that enough to elevate Life above the relegation spots?

Must be. 3 teams have yet to get in a race.
Currently, Coloni has a 16th in PQ, Leyton has just got its best result with 10th in PQ and also, there is Osella with 7th in PQ.
I believe you also are in front of AGS.

Yeah, with Leyton House I must monitor things like these if I want to continue.

Large speed for Williams.

Large Speed for Minardi Please.

large speed for Mclaren, too